Fuck Drudge.

[Nieninque]

So Prince Harry has apparently been in Afghanistan for the last ten weeks, fighting the Taleban with his unit. He is in the Army, you see.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7269743.stm
Because of the obvious security implications, there was a media blackout, so that the Taleban that read the Sun didnt get wind of this and go after the ginger twat. The happy by-product is that we didnt have to listen to the ins and outs of what Harry had for breakfast, when was the last time the poncy little fuck had a wash and what was discovered in his morning shit.

But no, it was too fucking good to last. Drudge posted it this morning, so the media embargo has been lifted and we have to listen to fucking boring shit about that scrawny ginger tosser during every fucking news bulletin.

Fuck Drudge.

[Asha]

It's not even news. Why they assume we care I do not know.
He's royalty, so what. He's a little prick.

I fucking hate gingers.

[Sean of the Thread]

Fuck Prince Harry for not have a sac and being a Harrier pilot.

[Peanut Butter Jelly Time]

British people creep me out, with all of their speak of ginger and tossing. TOSS OFF YOU GINGERBREAD MAN! SO THERE. Anyway, they should put the kid in full plate, hand him a tower shield, and a longsword, and let him fight like his ancestor's pretended to.

[Snapp]

"Gingers" are gross.

[Hulkein]

So Prince Harry has apparently been in Afghanistan for the last ten weeks, fighting the Taleban with his unit. He is in the Army, you see.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7269743.stm
Because of the obvious security implications, there was a media blackout, so that the Taleban that read the Sun didnt get wind of this and go after the ginger twat. The happy by-product is that we didnt have to listen to the ins and outs of what Harry had for breakfast, when was the last time the poncy little fuck had a wash and what was discovered in his morning shit.

But no, it was too fucking good to last. Drudge posted it this morning, so the media embargo has been lifted and we have to listen to fucking boring shit about that scrawny ginger tosser during every fucking news bulletin.

Fuck Drudge.

Why do you hate him so much?

[Sean of the Thread]

Because he's a fluffy ginger tosser DUH.

Oh that and because he's inbred and a waste of UK money.

[Back]

Why do you hate him so much?

I can’t really remember any other soldier getting as much press coverage aside from Tillman. Certainly not a relative of anyone in our government. My friend is over there at the moment and the media isn’t reporting on how shes doing.

[Daniel]

Your friend also isn't a prince.

[Back]

Your friend also isn't a prince.

The point, at least for me, is that all this attention is placed on this one soldier due to his connections when in fact all this attention should be placed on every single person who is over there.

[RichardCranium]

It would be cool if J Dub suited up and went to war for the U S of A.

[Drakam]

Harry had the choice to opt out and not go over to afghanistan with his unit but he did go so he gets respect points for doing so.

[Asha]

He'd look more of a prick if he chose not to.

[Back]

I like my widescreen the way it is without commenting further.

[Daniel]

The point, at least for me, is that all this attention is placed on this one soldier due to his connections when in fact all this attention should be placed on every single person who is over there.

Well. That's your opinion. I wish I could get people to leave me the fuck out of it.

Every other person I meet:

Damn.. those are alot of tattoos and you're pretty big..were you in the army or something?

Me: Yea. I was in a for a bit. It was all good.

EOPIM: Oh word? So were you in Iraq.

Me: Yea, I was there for a little whole. Nothing too special

EOPIM: WORD? OMG DID YOU SHOOT SOMeONE??

Me: <worf picture>

[BigWorm]

EOPIM: WORD? OMG DID YOU SHOOT SOMeONE??

My military friends get this too. I think it just shows how stupid people are and their lack of understanding of what war really is.

[Whimsi]

My military friends get this too. I think it just shows how stupid people are and their lack of understanding of what war really is.

So fuck anyone for showing an interest in what someone DID do over there? Fucking lame criticism.

[Daniel]

I mean, whatever. I don't care. I just try not to cause attention. Which is hard enough as is, without being a 6'5 black man in northwest DC.

[BigWorm]

So fuck anyone for showing an interest in what someone DID do over there? Fucking lame criticism.

If you shot someone, would you want to talk about it with every stranger that walks up to you. I was saying use a little tact; OMG U R KILLER is disrespectful.

[Hulkein]

I can’t really remember any other soldier getting as much press coverage aside from Tillman. Certainly not a relative of anyone in our government. My friend is over there at the moment and the media isn’t reporting on how shes doing.

Yeah, but how is it his fault that he is getting attention? Other than doing something 99% of princes would not do.

[Stanley Burrell]

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lol brielus

[CrystalTears]

Yeah, but how is it his fault that he is getting attention? Other than doing something 99% of princes would not do.
Agreed.

Plus I personally feel that they're also concerned about him getting captured.

[Nieninque]

Yeah, but how is it his fault that he is getting attention? Other than doing something 99% of princes would not do.

I don't recall saying it was his fault. Or indeed anyone saying it was his fault.

I'm pretty sure my problem with was the media who are now going to bombard my senses with "Prince Harry...." for the next few weeks.

Fair play to him for going to Afghanistan. He could have opted out and did ask to go do the job he is trained and paid to do. Big fucking deal. How is that any more memorable or newsworthy than anyone going to war? It isn't but for the insane obsession that people/the media have for the Royal Family.

For people saying he is in more danger because of who he is, how the fuck can he be in any more danger? They are being shot at and blown up. How much more dangerous can you get?

[Clove]

...For people saying he is in more danger because of who he is, how the fuck can he be in any more danger? They are being shot at and blown up. How much more dangerous can you get?

Yeah, who would specifically target an officer and member of the royal family? That's just fucking crazy.

I like his company's knickname for him "Bullet-magnet".

[Xaerve]

The point, at least for me, is that all this attention is placed on this one soldier due to his connections when in fact all this attention should be placed on every single person who is over there.

Quoted for Retard.

[Nieninque]

They are specifically targeting British (and American) soldiers. They are killing them too. That's as dangerous as it gets. Fair play to him for putting his money where his mouth is, but he deserves no more or no less accolades for doing so than any other soldier in any war zone.

As for specifically targeting him, when he has his combat gear on, he looks pretty much the same as any other squaddie with combat gear on.

Regardless, it still doesnt interest me enough to bombard me with it every time I turn my radio/television on.

[CrystalTears]

You should join the Sean2 whining ranks of bitching about news shit that will naturally happen where you live. QQ.

[Clove]

Every soldier is in harms way in a war zone. Specific soldiers are at more risk than others. Nienique, have you ever been introduced to the concept of combat snipers and their penchant for targeting officers and VIP's, specifically?

[Nieninque]

Every soldier is in harms way in a war zone. Specific soldiers are at more risk than others. Nienique, have you ever introduced to the concept of combat snipers and their penchant for targeting officers and VIP's, specifically?

No, tell me, what is the concept of combat snipers and their penchant for targeting officers and VIP's?

[Clove]

I can google up a list of classes in the UK for you to take. Will that help?

[Daniel]

No, tell me, what is the concept of combat snipers and their penchant for targeting officers and VIP's?

Stop being stupid.

What happens when a story of a soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan gets killed in Iraq?

<yawn> <Cricket>

What happens when the PRINCE OF ENGLAND gets killed in Iraq or Afghanistan

OMG!! WTF!! MOBALIZE THE ENTIRE FORCES!!


I doubt you want that.

[Nieninque]

I can google up a list of classes in the UK for you to take. Will that help?

How about a class in reading your own posts


Every soldier is in harms way in a war zone.

My point entirely. If they are in danger of being killed, that's as harsh as it gets.
The NZ press wrote about this weeks ago, and nothing...
If the NZ press knew about it and had written about it, you can guarantee that the Taleban bods would have found out about it. He was there for ten weeks with people knowing about him being there. He is in danger of being killed by enemy forces, just like every soldier in a war zone...as you agreed.

[Nieninque]

Stop being stupid.

What happens when a story of a soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan gets killed in Iraq?

<yawn> <Cricket>

What happens when the PRINCE OF ENGLAND gets killed in Iraq or Afghanistan

OMG!! WTF!! MOBALIZE THE ENTIRE FORCES!!


I doubt you want that.

We don't have any more troops to send out.
And he is an inconsequential prince anyway.

[Daniel]

We don't have any more troops to send out.
And he is an inconsequential prince anyway.

Well, you can be disingenuous (stupid) all you want.

However, I bet you could find a few more troops to be sent out, and I'm pretty sure the country as a whole wouldn't share your feelings of his status if he were to be killed.

[Daniel]

How about a class in reading your own posts



My point entirely. If they are in danger of being killed, that's as harsh as it gets.
The NZ press wrote about this weeks ago, and nothing...
If the NZ press knew about it and had written about it, you can guarantee that the Taleban bods would have found out about it. He was there for ten weeks with people knowing about him being there. He is in danger of being killed by enemy forces, just like every soldier in a war zone...as you agreed.

Yes. However, there are different levels of being in danger.

I am in less danger sitting in the green zone, than I am conducting combat operations in Sadr city.

Just because you can't fathom danger at that level, doesn't mean that it is all the same.

[Nieninque]

Well, you can be disingenuous (stupid) all you want.

However, I bet you could find a few more troops to be sent out, and I'm pretty sure the country as a whole wouldn't share your feelings of his status if he were to be killed.

Why? We are looking for an excuse to seek revenge for a soldier killed in warfare?

You're a fucking idiot if you think that it would change anything in Afghanistan had he been killed while out there.

[Nieninque]

Yes. However, there are different levels of being in danger.

I am in less danger sitting in the green zone, than I am conducting combat operations in Sadr city.

Just because you can't fathom danger at that level, doesn't mean that it is all the same.

He is in the army. No other soldiers, officers or otherwise, are given the choice of when to go on active service or not.

If he cannot do the job he is employed to do, he should GTFO.

If you cannot fathom that simple concept, then you are a fucking idiot.

Oh wait...

[Daniel]

I think you're retarded if you think it wouldn't be a big fucking deal.

Just look at how things were with Diana, who was hella inconsequential when she died.

[Daniel]

He is in the army. No other soldiers, officers or otherwise, are given the choice of when to go on active service or not.

If he cannot do the job he is employed to do, he should GTFO.

If you cannot fathom that simple concept, then you are a fucking idiot.

Oh wait...

What concept are we talking about?

I was talking about the fact that there are different levels are danger. By way of hsi status in british society, he would be a bigger target to insurgents. Period. Therefore, the GoB told him to GTFO.

If you can't understand the wisdom or reasoning behind that, then I suggest you insert a hammer into your skull and save darwin the trouble.

[Nieninque]

I think you're retarded if you think it wouldn't be a big fucking deal.

Just look at how things were with Diana, who was hella inconsequential when she died.

Absofuckinglutely.

Millions of fucking Americans dropping flowers around London.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I like gingers.

[Daniel]

Oh yea. Cuz the British weren't make a big deal out of it...

God. I hate you people.

[CrystalTears]

Oh because London was completely unaffected by it? Seriously? Please.

[Nieninque]

What concept are we talking about?

I was talking about the fact that there are different levels are danger. By way of hsi status in british society, he would be a bigger target to insurgents. Period. Therefore, the GoB told him to GTFO.

If you can't understand the wisdom or reasoning behind that, then I suggest you insert a hammer into your skull and save darwin the trouble.

Maybe you missed the part earlier where I said that the New Zealand press had already posted this shit weeks ago. He remained after that. The foreign press were already aware that he was in Afghanistan and you can be guaranteed that if the foreign press knew, the Taleban knew.

He would have been a bigger target the day he turned up, but he has managed ten weeks out there. What? The Taleban only find out about stuff when it's on the BBC or in the Sun? If it was that big a deal to not get him killed, THEY WOULDNT HAVE LET HIM GO! It's not like they only found out he was a Prince.

[Clove]

Every soldier is in harms way in a war zone. Specific soldiers are at more risk than others.


How about a class in reading your own posts.

How about a class in quoting in context?




My point entirely. If they are in danger of being killed, that's as harsh as it gets..

Officers and VIP's are at greater risk because they are being sought after and targeted specifically.

This could be why officers in other wars would sometimes go without insignia and have "no salute" policies. But, gee, they were in a war what's the point? The point is, their survival was improved if the enemy didn't realize they were an important target.

Really, I'm betting the RAF has some excellent military history classes available (for a reasonable commitment).

[Parkbandit]

God. I hate you people.

Racist.

[Nieninque]

Oh yea. Cuz the British weren't make a big deal out of it...

God. I hate you people.

It's mutual.

[Parkbandit]

Maybe you missed the part earlier where I said that the New Zealand press had already posted this shit weeks ago. He remained after that. The foreign press were already aware that he was in Afghanistan and you can be guaranteed that if the foreign press knew, the Taleban knew.


I have to disagree. I had zero idea he was over there.. I doubt some guy sitting in a cave in the middle of no where knew.

[Daniel]

Racist.

No. I hate all races of britain.

[Nieninque]

I have to disagree. I had zero idea he was over there.. I doubt some guy sitting in a cave in the middle of no where knew.

I'm pretty sure that you had zero interest in finding out anything about specific British people that may or may not be serving in Afghanistan.

Could be wrong.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

English people can be hot :)

[Arkans]

Bad teeth and all.

- Arkans

[Clove]

Could be wrong.

And frequently are.

[Gan]

5 star thread.

[BigWorm]

This could be why officers in other wars would sometimes go without insignia and have "no salute" policies.

Congratulations on watching Forest Gump. Gotta keep Lt. Dan safe!

[Parkbandit]

I'm pretty sure that you had zero interest in finding out anything about specific British people that may or may not be serving in Afghanistan.

Could be wrong.

You are wrong. I am a Queen of England groupie.

[Clove]

Congratulations on watching Forest Gump. Gotta keep Lt. Dan safe!

Actually that wasn't an uncommon practice as early as WWII and in several armies. Glad you're a Tom Hanks fan though.

[Gan]

Congratulations on watching Forest Gump. Gotta keep Lt. Dan safe!

Actually, for those who are up on Texas history know that this issue is exactly what got Gen. Santa Anna caught when he was overrun at the battle of San Jacinto by Gen. Sam Houston.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_San_Jacinto#Aftermath

;)

[Celephais]

What concept are we talking about?

I was talking about the fact that there are different levels are danger. By way of hsi status in british society, he would be a bigger target to insurgents. Period. Therefore, the GoB told him to GTFO.

If you can't understand the wisdom or reasoning behind that, then I suggest you insert a hammer into your skull and save darwin the trouble.
I agree, I think it's a shitty catch-22 situation, he isn't exactly "helping" over there, I would imagine he's actually a hinderance (no matter how good a soldier he is) because he's putting other soldiers in harms way, and taking there focus off mission.

I hate to use a movie parallel but it's a lot like "saving private ryan", (yay tom hanks again!) they're "elevating" the value of a single soldiers life above other soldiers, being a VIP they know he has to be protected from capture (or death, due to homeland support), the catch is he can't not go or he looks like a pussy.

[Hulkein]

I don't recall saying it was his fault. Or indeed anyone saying it was his fault.

You (well, whoever responded to my original post) said that people hated him for all the attention. It'd be stupid to hate someone who gets attention through no fault of their own.

Your first post seemed to be pretty negative about him, not just the media, which is why I asked.

[Hulkein]

Also, it's pretty obvious that he's more at risk than a run of the mill soldier now that this story is out

[Nieninque]

I agree, I think it's a shitty catch-22 situation, he isn't exactly "helping" over there, I would imagine he's actually a hinderance (no matter how good a soldier he is) because he's putting other soldiers in harms way, and taking there focus off mission.

I hate to use a movie parallel but it's a lot like "saving private ryan", (yay tom hanks again!) they're "elevating" the value of a single soldiers life above other soldiers, being a VIP they know he has to be protected from capture (or death, due to homeland support), the catch is he can't not go or he looks like a pussy.

He was helping. He was doing his job until all this shit hit the fan.

[Nieninque]

You (well, whoever responded to my original post) said that people hated him for all the attention. It'd be stupid to hate someone who gets attention through no fault of their own.

Your first post seemed to be pretty negative about him, not just the media, which is why I asked.

I'm not a fan of the Royal Family. They rate up there with Politicians, for me, in the main. Harry has gone beyond my expectations of the leeches from the Royal Family, to be honest. At least he has put himself on the line for the job he puts his name to. Would be kinda nice for the parasitic members of his extended family to come anywhere near as close in order to justify the fact that my taxes pay for their champers.

p.s. Please dont confuse my posts with Drayals's/Ash's/Drayal's/Nevermind's/whateverhisnameisthesedays.

[Celephais]

He was helping. He was doing his job until all this shit hit the fan.
How do you not understand what I mean? He can be the best soldier in the army and he's still putting undue risk/strain on his fellow soldiers, regardless of if it hit the fan or not.

Do you think that his presence was not factored into his units assignments? Do you think that his fellow soldiers felt safer knowing he was there (that feeling of safety is important too, regardless of if they were).

I don't care what he physically did over there, his presence had to have caused more harm.

[Fallen]

I don't know about that. I think it might mean a lot to the soldiers that someone who already has everything in life might choose to serve along side them simply out of a sense of duty.

*shrug*

I would.

[Nieninque]

I don't know about that. I think it might mean a lot to the soldiers that someone who already has everything in life might choose to serve along side them simply out of a sense of duty.

*shrug*

I would.

And people that have served with him said something similar.
But what do I know?

[Celephais]

Eh, was just my take, nothing official. Your original response just seemed to not understand what I was saying, seemed to think I thought he was sitting in a gold throne hoisted by other soldiers while watching "futbol" matches.

[Clove]

And people that have served with him said something similar.
But what do I know?

Yeah, and they also affectionately refer to him as "Bullet-Magnet". Coincidence?

:thinking:

[Celephais]

Yeah, and they also affectionately refer to him as "Bullet-Magnet". Coincidence?

:thinking:
Affectionate, Clove... Affectionate.

[Clove]

Heh, they obviously perceive the increased risk he poses that Nienique is unable to.

[Daniel]

I don't know. My experiences in the military lead me to seek out danger. I woulda been pretty happy if he was in my unit. or at the very least wouldn't have minded it.

[Celephais]

I don't know. My experiences in the military lead me to seek out danger. I woulda been pretty happy if he was in my unit. or at the very least wouldn't have minded it.
Something tells me the higher ups weren't looking to assign his unit to the most dangerous missions, I probably wouldn't have minded him in mine if I were in the army either... but for different reasons.

[Daniel]

Well, yea. That's their job: To keep retarded people like me from killing myself.

[Drunken Durfin]

I really hope that a video of him getting his head sawed off does not hit the net as the end of this story. Then again, it might push the "turn the whole region into a big sheet of glass" solution, which is basically the only thing that will stop the conflict forever.

[StrayRogue]

A shame, really it is. My opinion of him was really boosted by his desire to serve and the whole Nazi costume thing planted him in my good books long ago.

Maybe it's for the best. But I don't blame him for not wanting to come back to the UK.

[Daniel]

I don't blame anyone for not wanting to go to he UK, for any reason.

Biggest. Shithole. Ever.

[StrayRogue]

Wait, haven't you only ever been to London? The place where there's more foreign people than actual English people?

[Back]

The donuts in Blackpool are ALMOST worth the plane ticket. Chip shops, definately. Guess you had a bad experience, Dan.

[Daniel]

Wait, haven't you only ever been to London? The place where there's more foreign people than actual English people?

No.

We've had this discussion before.

England is le sux.

[Latrinsorm]

And he's back.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/01/prince.afghanistan1/index.html

[Clove]

The donuts in Blackpool are ALMOST worth the plane ticket. Chip shops, definately. Guess you had a bad experience, Dan.

Only you. You know there's a reason why the wealthy Englishmen have French chefs...

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