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Methais
02-28-2008, 02:36 PM
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/exchange-student-starved-while-in-egypt/20080227152009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

HALLOWELL, Maine (Feb. 27) - Jonathan McCullum was in perfect health at 155 pounds when he left last summer to spend the school year as an exchange student in Egypt.

But when he returned home to Maine just four months later, the 5-foot-9 teenager weighed a mere 97 pounds and was so weak that he struggled to carry his baggage or climb a flight of stairs. Doctors said he was at risk for a heart attack.

McCullum says he was denied sufficient food while staying with a family of Coptic Christians, who fast for more than 200 days a year, a regimen unmatched by other Christians.

But he does not view the experience as a culture clash. Rather, he said, it reflected mean and stingy treatment by his host family, whose broken English made it difficult to communicate.

"The weight loss concerned me, but I wanted to stick out the whole year," he said in an interview at his family's home outside Augusta.

Friends and teachers at his English-speaking school in Egypt urged him to change his host family, but he stayed put after being told the other home was in a dangerous neighborhood of Alexandria.

After returning to the U.S., he was hospitalized for nearly two weeks. The 17-year-old has regained about 20 pounds, but his parents say he's not the same boy he was when he left under the auspices of AFS Intercultural Programs.

"He was outgoing, a straight-A student, very athletic. Now, he's less spontaneous and more subdued," said his mother, Elizabeth McCullum, who was shocked when she met her son at the airport on Jan. 9 and saw he had lost one-third his weight.

Jonathan McCullum's parents said the exchange program should have warned them that students placed with Coptic families would be subject to dietary restrictions.

Marlene Baker, communications director at AFS headquarters in New York, declined to discuss McCullum's experience. She referred calls to the program's lawyer in Portland, Patricia Peard, who said she could not comment on McCullum's case because of the potential for a lawsuit.

McCullum said his host family gave him only meager amounts of food, and his condition worsened during the last seven weeks, when the family observed a fast limiting the amount of animal protein he was given.

The host family was a couple with two younger boys and a daughter who was in the U.S. on an AFS exchange. McCullum said the parents gave him the smallest food portions, hid treats in their bedroom and complained that the cost of his upkeep was more than they spent for their daughter when she was home.

The host father, Shaker Hanna, rejected McCullum's story as "a lie," suggesting that he made it up because his parents were hoping to recover some of the money they paid for his stay as compensation.

"The truth is, the boy we hosted for nearly six months was eating for an hour and a half at every meal. The amount of food he ate at each meal was equal to six people," Hanna said. He added that the boy was active, constantly exercising and playing sports.

Hanna, an engineer, said his family went out of its way to prepare special foods, including fish and chicken, for McCullum during the fast periods.

McCullum disputes that. The family served meat early in his stay, he said, but that ended during the fast period.

He said he never got breakfast and his first food of the day usually was a small piece of bread with cucumbers and cheese that he would take to school for lunch. There was a late-afternoon dinner consisting of beans, vegetables and sometimes fish, and a snack of bread later in the evening.

McCullum sometimes bought food, but at one point was reduced to stealing it from a supermarket. He was caught, but the store accepted the small amount of money he had and let him go.

Still, McCullum did not complain to his parents. His father suspects he may have fallen victim to Stockholm syndrome, in which people start to feel a sense of loyalty to those who victimize them.

McCullum's parents first sensed that something was amiss shortly before Christmas, when they got e-mails from their son and one of his teachers about seeking a new host family. They also saw a picture of him on Facebook indicating he had lost a lot of weight.

In early January, the teacher sent another e-mail saying McCullum was "in bad shape" and "really, really NEEDS to go home."

The McCullums said AFS provided false assurances that he had seen a doctor and was in excellent health.

After AFS arranged Jonathan McCullum's flight home, he happened to sit next to Sen. Susan Collins on the final leg, from New York to Portland.

"I was struck by how extraordinarily thin he was," Collins recalled. "He was just a stick. He was so emaciated and gaunt."

AFS, a nonprofit formerly known as American Field Service, is one of the largest and oldest organizers of student exchanges. Since its founding as an ambulance corps during World War I, the agency has arranged exchanges for 325,000 American and foreign students from more than 50 countries.

The McCullums said AFS discourages parents from telephoning or e-mailing their kids abroad, believing the distraction would run counter to the program's goal of immersing them in local culture.

"They told us to have as little contact as possible, and we bought into it," Elizabeth McCullum said. She said she had confidence in AFS, regarding it as "the gold standard" of exchange programs, but now is aware that things can go terribly wrong.

The Committee for Safety of Foreign Exchange Students, a nonprofit advocacy group, said the exchange programs are rampant with instances of abuse and neglect.

"This is not an isolated incident. I'm aghast but I'm not shocked," the committee's director, Danielle Grijalva of Oceanside, Calif., said after hearing McCullum's story.

An industry accreditation group, the Council for Standards for International Educational Travel in Alexandria, Va., takes a different view, noting that roughly 30,000 foreign students a year participate in exchange programs in the U.S., while 3,000 Americans go abroad.

In the context of those numbers, incidents like McCullum's are rare, Executive Director John Hishmeh said. "It's not common, it's not the norm and it's not a growing trend," he said.

The McCullums are considering a lawsuit. David McCullum expressed concern about the long-term physical and psychological effects on his son. "Someone needs to be held accountable, and I would like someone to say, 'I'm sorry.'"

Jonathan McCullum is recovering and recently went snowboarding with friends. He plans to return to school in the fall, rejoin the soccer team and eventually study to be a doctor.

Despite the ordeal, he has not soured on foreign travel: He wants to visit Zimbabwe this summer as part of a volunteer program to build homes and trails.

diethx
02-28-2008, 04:04 PM
Yeah, he was eating enough for six people but exercising and playing sports made him lose 50 pounds, including all the muscle he should've been building up during that exercise and playing those sports. How can this guy possibly think that his line of bullshit will make sense to anyone?

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
02-28-2008, 04:05 PM
Fucking Egypt.

Suppa Hobbit Mage
02-28-2008, 04:09 PM
The kid is stupid, IMO. He could have gone to another home, and didn't.

BigWorm
02-28-2008, 04:34 PM
Yeah, blame the victim.

Celephais
02-28-2008, 04:42 PM
The kid is stupid, IMO. He could have gone to another home, and didn't.
Darwin barely missed

Renian
02-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Dear Coptic "Christian" family,

You aren't Christians. FAIL.

Love, Renian.

That said, while fasting does have its benefits, and similar things like caloric restriction can improve health and lifespan, this is obvious starvation, which is totally different from fasting.

Fasting = Your body is living off of glucose and fat reserves, and using subpar cells (read: unhealthy and/or cancerous) and toxins as fuel in addition to those reserves. Your body also still has adequate vitamins and minerals to sustain itself. This is good.

Starvation = Your body is out of glucose and fat and now is going after your muscle. Your body also may lack vitamins and minerals now. This is REALLY BAD. They should have realized this, but nooooooo....

Clove
02-28-2008, 04:48 PM
The kid was dumb. Sort of why teens need responsible host families (to look after their well-being while they study abroad).

Parkbandit
02-28-2008, 04:52 PM
Yeah, blame the victim.

He made himself a victim.

TheSmooth1
02-28-2008, 05:22 PM
Which obviously justifies what that family did.

Celephais
02-28-2008, 05:59 PM
Things don't get justified... as much as they should the world doesn't work on justification, the family is likely going to get off scot free, if somebody does something "unjustified" to you, you can't just cry like you've got a skinned knee. I understand he's a child, but it's pretty clear he knew he was in a bad situation and thought he'd "tough it out".

Bobmuhthol
02-28-2008, 06:22 PM
<<I understand he's a child, but it's pretty clear he knew he was in a bad situation and thought he'd "tough it out".>>

Who gives a fuck about what the kid did? He's not the one filing a claim, his parents are:


The McCullums said AFS provided false assurances that he had seen a doctor and was in excellent health.

"They told us to have as little contact as possible, and we bought into it," Elizabeth McCullum said. She said she had confidence in AFS, regarding it as "the gold standard" of exchange programs, but now is aware that things can go terribly wrong.

The family is not at risk; the organization is.

Daniel
02-28-2008, 07:08 PM
How the fuck do you starve in Egypt?

There are ATM's and Burger Kings on every corner.

The fuck?

I used to get big ass plates of Pasta, made anyway I wanted it (Arrabiatta, Bolognese etc) for literally $.88.

Jenisi
02-29-2008, 01:03 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pinkberries17/skinny.jpg

I bet if he grew his hair out he could pass for a runway model in NYC.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pinkberries17/model.jpg

diethx
02-29-2008, 01:27 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pinkberries17/skinny.jpg

I bet if he grew his hair out he could pass for a runway model in NYC

He'd actually fit perfectly as is into one of those lame Burberry ads.

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
02-29-2008, 01:47 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pinkberries17/skinny.jpg

I bet if he grew his hair out he could pass for a runway model in NYC.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/pinkberries17/model.jpg

That's freaking sick...

http://bp3.blogger.com/_4S834nKbP7E/RlCILXPY01I/AAAAAAAAAek/GKuydbYlcj0/s1600/Elisha+Cuthbert+04.jpg

much better.

Stanley Burrell
02-29-2008, 02:08 AM
I bet if I got really fed up with her shit, I could absolutely pull off a Sub-Zero-Wins-Fatality in physical form.

Miscast
02-29-2008, 02:42 AM
i bet a lot of muslims are laughing

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
02-29-2008, 02:45 AM
...and I bet you're still a moron that is generally hated by 90% of this forums' active population. SHHHHH

Miscast
02-29-2008, 03:26 AM
i'll bet you're a jamus fan

Miscast
02-29-2008, 03:28 AM
and a muslim

CrystalTears
02-29-2008, 08:03 AM
Yeah, he was eating enough for six people but exercising and playing sports made him lose 50 pounds, including all the muscle he should've been building up during that exercise and playing those sports. How can this guy possibly think that his line of bullshit will make sense to anyone?
I hope you mean the family (the he's and this guy was confusing to me) because you can't fake losing all that weight. Something happened, and the family should have made it their responsibility to take care of that problem.

Clove
02-29-2008, 08:22 AM
Camels are delicious.

Daniel
02-29-2008, 09:25 AM
Camels are horrible beasts that need to be eradicated off the face of the planet.

diethx
02-29-2008, 01:51 PM
I hope you mean the family (the he's and this guy was confusing to me) because you can't fake losing all that weight. Something happened, and the family should have made it their responsibility to take care of that problem.

Oh, yeah, my bad grammar I guess. I meant the father who said he was eating enough for six people and exercising and playing sports every day.

Edit to add: I should have put the first sentence of my first post in italics, sry :(

Nieninque
02-29-2008, 03:42 PM
Oh, yeah, my bad grammar I guess. I meant the father who said he was eating enough for six people and exercising and playing sports every day.

Edit to add: I should have put the first sentence of my first post in italics, sry :(

Only fucking losers spell out their sarcasm so the retards can catch on.

CrystalTears
02-29-2008, 03:45 PM
Yeah, fuck me for being a little confused by her post.

You can't have my bitch title, no matter how much you are one today, so forget it. :P

Bobmuhthol
02-29-2008, 03:45 PM
You forgot your italics, Nieninque.

Nieninque
02-29-2008, 04:01 PM
I dont need it spelt out.
I know I own that title above and beyond you :P

And besides, I truly believe that if you have to point out when you are being sarcastic, your sarcasm is wasted.

Clove
02-29-2008, 04:05 PM
Midol. Reeses.

Peanut Butter Jelly Time
02-29-2008, 04:08 PM
No kidding, why is this Nienique chick always pissy?

Celephais
02-29-2008, 04:15 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/GuinnessKMF/OnTopic-1.jpg
(not that I really care, this pic was just too funny not to include)

Stanley Burrell
02-29-2008, 04:16 PM
English women are = hot accentz.

Vicks, Wedge, let's close it up.

Edited to Add: Wrong thread. I stand firmly and erect by my statement.

Re-edit: Sort of the right thread. There's enough Nien' posts in it.

CrystalTears
02-29-2008, 04:17 PM
Just out of curiosity, are these exchange students given any money at all? From the host family or taken with them from the start?

I don't know how it works, but it seems odd that he was so broke that he couldn't just say screw it and buy food somewhere. He even had to steal it. It just seems rather odd.

Clove
02-29-2008, 04:31 PM
http://static.flickr.com/106/281464671_2064fd9aa0.jpg

Big Mac FTW!

Daniel
02-29-2008, 04:34 PM
Just out of curiosity, are these exchange students given any money at all? From the host family or taken with them from the start?

I don't know how it works, but it seems odd that he was so broke that he couldn't just say screw it and buy food somewhere. He even had to steal it. It just seems rather odd.

Even if they weren't there is still no reason why he couldn't have gotten food.

Seriously. There are ATMS everywhere. Especially in a major city like Alexandria. It makes no sense that he had no access to money. There is also PLENTY of fast food restaurants in Alexandria and most taxi drivers speak english.

I used to spend 20 bucks a week there on food and I ate like a king.

There's something else to this story, but it smells like bullshit to me.

CrystalTears
02-29-2008, 04:36 PM
That doesn't really answer my question though. Granted there may be an ATM available, but not all kids are given access to one during high school (I sure wasn't until I earned my own money and opened my own account).

So since he couldn't have contact with his parents, how is he going to get money? Can/does the host family provide that as well?

Daniel
02-29-2008, 04:39 PM
You'd send your kid to a foreign country with no way to access emergency funds?

Stanley Burrell
02-29-2008, 04:39 PM
http://static.flickr.com/106/281464671_2064fd9aa0.jpg

Big Mac FTW!

I have to learn about hybridization of cuisine as part of a B.S. core. It sucks ass. I'm not even kidding: Like, there is literally enough vacuum force lip-suckage upon the just-Metamucil'd anus region to cleanse colons for millenia-to-come.

No one should be required to spend more than three-and-a-half minutes pretending to care about this. And Clove is a facist.

CrystalTears
02-29-2008, 04:41 PM
That's why I was asking how it works, if anyone had any idea how the money situation is handled with exchange students.

Yes, I find it odd that he didn't have money, so I was curious what would cause that to happen.

Edit: Nevermind. I found my answer, and if they're supposed to have money when they go, then he did something stupid and spent it all or something. There are lots of holes in this story to know who the true dumbass is.

Daniel
02-29-2008, 04:45 PM
It may be different for high schools kids but usually money matters are handled by the student. You pay the school who pays the host family, and there may be a certain expectation for good provision but anything else you're on your own.

I just find it incredible that this kid had no way to get to food when phones, internet and FFS his english speaking friends were all in close proximity.

Maybe if he was living with some Bedouins in the desert, but he was living in a tourist town.

Clove
02-29-2008, 04:47 PM
I just find it incredible that this kid had no way to get to food when phones, internet and FFS his english speaking friends were all in close proximity.

I find it incredible that his host family didn't notice his significant weight loss, and address it. I'm sorry the responsibility IMO lay with the host family. They were supposed to be looking after his well-being. That's why we make provisions for host families when we send teens abroad to study.

Daniel
02-29-2008, 04:57 PM
I just think it's crazy. That no one really noticed it or he didn't really bring it up to his family back home. It's like, wtf?

diethx
02-29-2008, 05:48 PM
The people at his school DID notice it, but the only other host family available lived in a bad neighborhood in Alexandria (or so said the article). I dunno, I think i'd rather risk a drive-by camel over starving to death.

The kid didn't want to seem like a wuss apparently, and decided to stick it out rather than cry home to mom and dad. Unfortunately the dumb kid didn't realize that it wouldn't have made him a wuss to put an end to his abuse. I still blame the host family though, even if the kid made stupid choices. They got the money to support him and didn't spend it on him, obviously. After all, he's still a kid, and kids are supposed to make stupid choices. That's why they have adults to watch over them.

TheEschaton
02-29-2008, 09:23 PM
The kid sounds like an attention whore. I agree with Daniel, it seems ridiculous that the kid could have starved in a modern city like Alexandria. Although the host family is obviously not telling the truth in saying "He would eat for an hour and a half." We had these types all the time in the PC, who wanted to trek to Africa to lose weight and sleep with HCNs and backpack and prove how l33t they were.

Either that or he has a massive tapeworm.

-TheE-

Shalla
02-29-2008, 09:37 PM
Either that or he has a massive tapeworm.

-TheE-

^^^^^^^

Clove
02-29-2008, 10:20 PM
The kid sounds like an attention whore. I agree with Daniel, it seems ridiculous that the kid could have starved in a modern city like Alexandria. Although the host family is obviously not telling the truth in saying "He would eat for an hour and a half." We had these types all the time in the PC, who wanted to trek to Africa to lose weight and sleep with HCNs and backpack and prove how l33t they were.

Either that or he has a massive tapeworm.

-TheE-

Ironic that for someone who frequently champions the cause of the poor and deprived would be incredulous that someone could starve in a modern city. Still more ironic that personal responsibility suddenly seems to have taken hold- when discussing a 17 year old kid.

Daniel
02-29-2008, 10:34 PM
Yea. I find it incredulous that he couldn't find food in a city with like 3455 Burger Kings.

wtf was I thinking.

TheEschaton
03-01-2008, 12:29 AM
He wasn't some poor street urchin, he was one of our whole, hale, hearty, suburban American youth! He should have A) had access to emergency funds, B) used them to buy his own food, and C) not been such a pussy and either demand more food/moved to the other home, "dangerous" part of Alexandria or not.

Shalla
03-01-2008, 06:17 AM
I think majority of children today are spoiled, everything is handed out to them, and as a result they are incapable of taking care of themselves.

17 year old? C'mon. I knew what was right, and wrong for me when I was 10, and I started working (my own decision), and stopped asking for allowance when I was 13.

Clove
03-01-2008, 07:41 AM
I think majority of children today are spoiled, everything is handed out to them, and as a result they are incapable of taking care of themselves.

17 year old? C'mon. I knew what was right, and wrong for me when I was 10, and I started working (my own decision), and stopped asking for allowance when I was 13.

Exactly. If you're a poor, adult in NYC and you're starving... you can't help it. If you're a 17 year old kid 9000 miles from home- you're a stupid lazy punk.

Daniel
03-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Yea. That's exactly what we're saying.

diethx
03-01-2008, 12:56 PM
I think majority of children today are spoiled, everything is handed out to them, and as a result they are incapable of taking care of themselves.

17 year old? C'mon. I knew what was right, and wrong for me when I was 10, and I started working (my own decision), and stopped asking for allowance when I was 13.

Just because you babysat or whatever at 13 and no longer needed allowance (like most 13 year old girls, myself included), doesn't mean that you could have "taken care of yourself" had such a situation happened around you. Who knows what was going on inside the kid's head? Who knows if part of that exchange program was that all the kid's money went to the host family so they could properly provide for him and completely immerse him in the culture and their way of doing things? Who's to say that he definitely had access to emergency funds?

Sure, I agree he should have let his parents know what was going on and get money for food from them if he had no access to money in Egypt. But I dunno what was going on inside his head, or what he felt he needed to prove to his family. I do know the kid was abused and it's pretty pathetic to place the blame for this on him. We don't blame the child who gets raped or beaten by his uncle for not telling someone who can help him, do we? They're both types of abuse, and until we're put in the same position it's impossible to know what was going on in his head.

Daniel
03-01-2008, 01:17 PM
Let me be clear. I'm not placing blame on the kid. If he was being abuse then that's fucked up.

I just don't believe the story.

diethx
03-01-2008, 01:19 PM
Let me be clear. I'm not placing blame on the kid. If he was being abuse then that's fucked up.

I just don't believe the story.

Oh, okay then, you're allowed that.

Shalla
03-01-2008, 03:10 PM
I don't believe the story either. I'm saying the 17 yr old should be partially blamed. He was not beaten, or raped. If he doesn't know how to call collect to complain or ask for his parents to transfer funds, then he's an idiot.

Latrinsorm
03-01-2008, 04:03 PM
He was not beaten, or raped. If he doesn't know how to call collect to complain or ask for his parents to transfer funds, then he's an idiot.Because emotional abuse is so much less devastating than physical abuse.....................................

diethx
03-01-2008, 04:08 PM
Because emotional abuse is so much less devastating than physical abuse.....................................

Seriously, thank you.

Stanley Burrell
03-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Well, on the plus side, this would be a really great venture for all of our fat chicks.

I can see it now:

"I tried everything to lose weight. Atkins, the South Beach diet, even a few weeks in fat camp...

...Well, America, now you can be get serious about putting off those pounds. IN A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY POSING AS AN EXCHANGE STUDENT."

I personally need to drop about 350 dress sizes and go from 148-88 in three hours.

Speaking of which, I shall now use this text as possible testing material for a delicious, low-carb paper jam.