The official nerf Sunwell Thread

[oldanforgotten]

Ok, starting it up now, this instance is ridiculous beyond belief.

Nerf Sunwell.

Brutalicus is strikingly easy, but kalecgos needs a nerf or he?s going to be a guild killer.
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[StrayRogue]

Nerfs have already begun.

It's a shame really. Almost all the bosses have been nerfed to some extent in the rest of the game.

[oldanforgotten]

True, but often those nerfs came about because people were using stupid strategies and/or had bad players in their raids (and 2-3 bad players can ruin even the best guilds runs).

My guild was stuck on RoS for almost a month and a half, not because the fight needed a nerf (it didn?t), but because we employed a stupid strategy.

Just looking at pure numbers, there are maybe 100 or so guilds in the US that have the DPS to bring Brutalicus down, and another 100 or so that are on the verge. (27k raid DPS is required to bring him down before he enrages), making him the stiffest DPS requirement in the game to this point. BUT he?s a tank and spank ala Gorefiend, and there is nothing inherently difficult about the encounter other than the DPS race.

Kalecgos makes Vashj look like a cakewalk, and is comparable in its technical aspect to a fight like C?thun in personal management, but unlike C?thun, who was otherwise an utter joke once you got the dance down, Kalecgos is also a very stiff DPS race due to a frighteningly short enrage timer given the nature of the fight.
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[Methais]

Ok, starting it up now, this instance is ridiculous beyond belief.

Nerf Sunwell.

Brutalicus is strikingly easy, but kalecgos needs a nerf or he’s going to be a guild killer.

Can't handle the thought of having to "work" for your purples?





































































































L2P.

[Keller]

WotLK is the guild killer. You don't need to worry about some raid boss.

People are already selling accounts because the gear they've accumulated will be worthless in a few months. Not to mention that people wont want to spend shit-tons of time/money to learn encounters that will be irrelevant soon.

Same thing happened when BC approached and Naxx was put on hold.

[Methais]

Did they ever announce a release date for WotLK?

[Keller]

Not that I've heard. But a month or so ago they stated that 2.4 was the last major patch before the x-pac. So I'd assume beta will begin around summertime.

[Augie]

I heard the release date was pushed til November.

[oldanforgotten]

Can't handle the thought of having to "work" for your purples?


Never said that, but making an encounter that requires that much decision making on the fly and has stiff damage/healing requirements as well as specific transitions is simply too difficult for most people to get through.

last I checked also, I've done Kalecgos already.
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[Some Rogue]

So then you made this thread for the good of the community and not to wave your epeen around again, right? Uh huh.

[oldanforgotten]

So then you made this thread for the good of the community and not to wave your epeen around again, right? Uh huh.

Go ahead on the PTR and give the encounter a whirl yourself.
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[Keller]

Last time I checked you said "BossA will be a guild killer" and then 8 posts later you said "Last time I checked, I've downed BossA."

Bow down to the mighty WoW God Tamral. He uses his MENSA quality intellect to indirectly kill cats AND guild-killing-raid-bosses.

[Sean of the Thread]

I thought he killed the cats directly with FOUR WHEEELS OF FUUURRRRRY

[StrayRogue]

They nerfed Kael and Vash the first time because the encounters were physically impossible. But anyway.

TBC definately made epics much too easy to attain. With the honor wellfare system now in place and ready to give s2 items in Season 4, any old tard can get full professor plums.

[Methais]

Never said that, but making an encounter that requires that much decision making on the fly and has stiff damage/healing requirements as well as specific transitions is simply too difficult for most people to get through.

last I checked also, I've done Kalecgos already.

Please explain what the fuck the point of this thread is then. If your guild, which is so awesome that it has endorsements by Seany Digital Records, killed Kalecgos, the encounter doesn't need a nerf.

But the real purpose of this thread was for you to stroke your epeen, and sugar coat it with a public service announcement for the well being of lesser guilds which weren't awesome enough to be endorsed by SDR.

[Solkern]

we downed illidan!

wewt

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Sellout of WoW and rejoin GS :)

[TheEschaton]

I'm scared of end-game raiding, I feel like every1'll laugh at me for bein a n00blet. :(

[Alfster]

Meh, if you get in a guild that's only running Kara chances are they suck much worse than you do.

[Xaerve]

lol, world of warcraft ;)

[Carl Spackler]

I did RFC by myslef, fuck yeah I'm awesome!

[Methais]

I soloed Hogger. But the encounter still needs to be nerfed, for the well being of lesser players that aren't as awesome as me and my Hogger soloing skills.