I NEED 2 SLEEP

[Stanley Burrell]

Help, I need sleep.

I've tried:

A) Chhwackin'.

B) Exercising.

C) Chhwackin' again.

D) Alcohol

E) Alcohol, followed by either exercise and then chhwackin', OR chhwackin' followed by exercise.

.

I've taken two 100 Hydroxyzine HCl for a few months now to sleep. And everything was O.K. It's a really old-ass antihistamine that works a lot better on sleeping than Benadryl (because of more Benadryl side effects.)

I've taken anything that has diphenhydramine in it (Benadryl) as well as frickin' Chlor-Trimeton and that always seems to give me a shit-fucking-load of rebound wakefulness and anxiety. Antihistamines in general, prescribed or OTC'd by my Dr. for getting sleep has gone to the crapper.

I smoked weed for the first time since forever in hopes that it might calm me the fuck down enough so as to sleep. It did. And I gained 15 pounds (145-160) in three night's worth of rest. So. No.

I don't know what it is. I drink a lot of caffeine, but only in the morning. It's bad because it (Hydroxyzine HCl) was sort of a "final straw"/attempt by my physician before I had to see a sleep specialist.

Now I don't think neither my parents' nor my insurance will cover a recommendation by my physician to a sleep specialist. The last note I left off on, with that, was my physician telling me some crap about how "I might be sleeping" But that I wasn't getting "Restful sleep" whatever the monkey's butt that means.

I'm a wee bit fucking creeped out, literally, that I feel well-rested on 3.5 hours of sleep. It does seem to catch up with me during the day sometimes.

And with all the illegal/legal/addicted to 'ron garbage posters spew at me, I've been, sorry to disappoint, as straight edge as straight edge can be (besides condoming my weewee) since I was banned.

I'm not smoking an illegal drug and I'm not, not, not, not, not, not, not taking Zyprexa for sleep. People've seen before and after pictures of me on these forums, I'm sure, under the influence of an atypical (Zyprexa) and not. The difference is about half my body weight (5'8" 185 medicated vs. 5'8" 140 non-Zyprexa'd) in my obese versus underweight shots. I can only really build muscle when I'm lanky as is.

On that note, sorta, Seroquel and Risperdal give me clinically severe akathisia, to the point where I could legally strangle Rhett and cop an insanity plea (I'd be a bit too busy rocking in a corner though.)

I don't know if I'm going to be able to pull $ together currently to "work" with a "sleep specialist." I don't even know who/what it/they are, and I'm squeezed for cash, plus it'll probably be my plan.

How the fuck do I get 6-7 restful hours of sleep? Thank you Jesus (and pharmacists?)

[Stanley Burrell]

Have people ever had times in their lives where it's just seemed that for maybe a month or so, you just... For whatever reason, sleep a lot less than you normally would -- And before you can attribute it to external factor, you know, deep down inside, that something funky is going on and 7-8 hours of rest now being 3-5 feels fine?

[Katt]

You said you know the problem, you drink caffeine.

I had sleeping problems for awhile the key thing is you have to want to sleep bad enough.

You need to want to sleep so bad that you are willing to give caffeine up for a bit. To start off try just drinking a coke before 11 AM so you don't get caffeine headaches later on in the day.

I also was advised to listen to soft music or the tv (but not to actually watch it because monitors/TV stimulate your eyes/brain or something lol, so make sure you are off the computer an hour or so before you plan to go to bed). I actually went with the idea of a fish tank that makes little bubble noises lol.

[Nieninque]

Failing that, sit in a car with the engine running and fix a hose pipe to the exhaust, feeding it back in through the window.

That makes you sleepy.

[Stanley Burrell]

Failing that, sit in a car with the engine running and fix a hose pipe to the exhaust, feeding it back in through the window.

That makes you sleepy.

I tried that as an onlooker to a Mini-Cooper.

You weren't in the car at the time.

::snaps fingers:: :(

[Katt]

I try not even to drink my coffee after noon or I find myself having a hard time getting sleepy. (Like tonight)

[Nieninque]

Probably because I havent owned a mini cooper in a number of years.

[Stanley Burrell]

I try not even to drink my coffee after noon or I find myself having a hard time getting sleepy. (Like tonight)

Jah.


Probably because I havent owned a mini cooper in a number of years.

I fumigate them at will. They are an abomination of pavement. This has nothing to do with you, Nieninque. We goin' global, baby.

It tickles me purplish-pink that you did, at some point, own one (and live in the U.K. all-the-while.) Hot shit.

[Nieninque]

I would own one again too. Awesome cars. The old type anyway. None of that BMW shit.

[Stanley Burrell]

I would own one again too. Awesome cars. The old type anyway. None of that BMW shit.

O. M. G.

Do you realize, if you took that thing and/or your pet Smart Car to West Coast Customs to see YO MAIN MANG X-to-the-Z and Pimp Yo Rizzide, Shawty, that every single Chav/Wig*** would follow you around as if you were the red-headed pied low emissions tail-piper of ghetto trendiness.

Omgomgomgomg. If I'm ever not poor, I'll buy you an upgrade made out of chrome, fender and an izz-ice'd out rear view. Oh and bling.

I'm like a mechanic here, man. Runs in my pasty Ashkenaz Jew ancestry, obviously. Think Larry David and accountant ::flexes::

[Danical]

I heard Heath Ledger had a good method for sleep aide.

FUCK YOU DREW IT'S NOT TO SOON NOW, BITCH!

EDIT: I mean that in the most loving way, of course.

[Stanley Burrell]

I heard Heath Ledger had a good method for sleep aide.

FUCK YOU DREW IT'S NOT TO SOON NOW, BITCH!

EDIT: I mean that in the most loving way, of course.

There's just a limit on how many medications ending in "-one" "-ine" "-ate" and... "acetaminophen" one should take without supervision.



When you're a homosexual rancher.

[Asha]

I heard Heath Ledger had a good method for sleep aide.

FUCK YOU DREW IT'S NOT TO SOON NOW, BITCH!

EDIT: I mean that in the most loving way, of course.

rofl.

And yeah Stan I get that shit too. It could be anything from seasonal alteration to caffeine, stress etc.
I'm still in the middle of mine and am still waiting to see a doctor.
It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made the appointment.
Yeah PB, you gotta love socialised health care.

[Stanley Burrell]

rofl.

And yeah Stan I get that shit too. It could be anything from seasonal alteration to caffeine, stress etc.
I'm still in the middle of mine and am still waiting to see a doctor.
It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made the appointment.
Yeah PB, you gotta love socialised health care.

Jah. The word used by an actual M.D. was "Sleep Therapist" I believe. Both my this-sounds-hollistic-and-I'm-instantly-skeptical mind, and wallet mind, immediately went into no mode.

[Stanley Burrell]

Or sleep specialist.

Fuck it. Some bells & whistles shit.

[Asha]

It might actually work man. It's just because we're used to relying on pills to do it. And we're not confident we don't need them after knowing how effective they are.
Might as well give it a go.

[Asha]

If that doesn't work, ''make a few calls''.

[Stanley Burrell]

Living in a First World Country and not taking pills for sleep disorders is like living in a Third World Country and not trading your pet goat for a briefcase full of Benjamins.

Worst analogy ever.

[Khariz]

Living in a First World Country and not taking pills for sleep disorders is like living in a Third World Country and not trading your pet goat for a briefcase full of Benjamins.

Worst analogy ever.

If your doctor said "Specialist" and not "Therapist", he likely meant another DOCTOR specializing in sleep disorders. Why? Because doctors are trained by the insurance industry to think of Specialists as Doctors for which Patients need referrals.

[TheEschaton]

Maybe we can trade off somehow, it seems like I have a different type of insomnia where I can't get out of bed if I haven't slept in it for at least 10 hours.

-TheE-

[Danical]

10 fucking hours?

Jesus christ, I get maybe 6 hours a night and I do fine.

[TheEschaton]

Oh, it's not that I'm tired unless I get ten hours of sleep - I wake up after 7, max. It's just that I find most law students such douche bags that I put off seeing them as much as possible, and where better to do that than in my bed?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I've found exercise in the AM (30 min cardio, 30 min weight lifting) gives me AWESOME sleep at night. I get like 6 hours and feel great when I wake up.

[Nieninque]

This thread should be called "I need to be put to sleep"

[Danical]

Diet, exercise, and regular sleeping patterns (i.e., no fucking napping) cures nearly all insomnia.

[Stanley Burrell]

If your doctor said "Specialist" and not "Therapist", he likely meant another DOCTOR specializing in sleep disorders. Why? Because doctors are trained by the insurance industry to think of Specialists as Doctors for which Patients need referrals.

Well. I certainly take licenced doctors seriously enough.

Recommendations at a level where I'm referred to someone for friggin' sleep sounds weird to me. Dr. #1 telling patient to see Dr. #2 seems like something way better suited for, say, a cancer referral.

Maybe someone here has been referred to a "Sleep Specialist" and knows the mystical, magical ways of their teachings? If it's not crockery I'll go, it's just I'm not made of money; I'm made of flesh, and bone, and poor.

[Warriorbird]

Eat some fresh pastry. Go lie down. Remove all sources of light.

If that fails... I recommend Wu Tang f/t Isaac Hayes.

[Stanley Burrell]

This thread should be called "I need to be put to sleep"

Can you, please, please please stop it, Nieninque? I have nothing against you and I'm sorry if I've upset/saddened/angered you. I'm sorry for... Whatever.


Eat some fresh pastry. Go lie down. Remove all sources of light.

If that fails... I recommend Wu Tang f/t Isaac Hayes.

Strangely enough, the whole listening to music thing has been suggested by a few other posters.

I mean, I'll give it a try. No offense, it seems sort've... Not... That significant, no offense, in the grand scheme of catching some Z's.

Why not though? If it works, you can collect my sleep specialist's fee :D Plus, Wu 4 lyfe, diggity-dizzawg ::emphatic nod::

[Stanley Burrell]

I just wish I could sleep.

I feel too God-damned artificial with the whole headphones set-up. I even bought a few discount meditation CDs at a nearby Barnes & Nobles, heh. They seemed to have helped very little, but have undeniably helped; in a DBT sense, at least a little bit, I suppose. I think it's a matter of being serious about wanting to sleep restfully.

I just want to wake up and not have it that my eyelids feel = to my body weight. Which is 147.5 lbs...

</gibber>

[Warriorbird]

Like yourself more. I'm serious about this. Sleep is a treat.

[Snapp]

You should try cutting out all the caffeine.

Or drink warm milk! (j/k.. blech)

[Stanley Burrell]

You should try cutting out all the caffeine.

Or drink warm milk! (j/k.. blech)

Word.

I have to, have to, have to cut out the caffeine. Despite how much I do or don't drink of it. I'm retardedly sensitive to anything stimulant. I get the willies just using half an Albuterol puff or even taking pseudoeffed' in its lowest dosages possible. It doesn't make sense to me why I'd be so iffy about anything that jazzes me up and yet I drink a way-too-much-of a bunch of green tea almost every day. It makes sense... Because I'm mentally handicapped... But beyond that, it still doesn't seem logical, at all, how much my brain and body hates anything with stimulant properties and yet how I'm able to douse myself with caffeine.

Maybe it's the legality of it or a sort of societal safety net I think it (way too much caffeine) possesses. I don't fucking understand this. I need to.

Goomba av' FTW, regardless of my own fuckery.

[Kyra231]

Sleep clinics are just a waste of time imo. I've accompanied several patients & honestly how well are you going to 'sleep' with a dozen electrodes hooked to you & a camera with a small light on it taping you for 8 hours?

Might be worth a shot, never seen any of the patients get any better rest from the treatment their 'sleep specialist' advised, however they were in facilities where it isn't the best environment for sleeping anyway.

~K.

[Stanley Burrell]

Is this similar to the overnight-type scans they do for folks when doctors are trying to decipher whether or not someone has clinical epilepsy?

I knew a chick who was being tested for this and it was fucked up that in a world of somewhat modern medicine, they basically poured electrode glue all over her scalp like it was fucking shampoo and made her walk around with a halter monitor. For seizures. For days.

If a sleep specialist recommended anything ressemblent of that to me, I can tell you they'd better be checking brain patterns not related to sleep.

[Arkans]

Is short term benzo regiment out of the question? Fairly safe transquilizer if used responsibility.

- Arkans

[Asha]

Lol I strongly doubt it.

[Kyra231]

Is this similar to the overnight-type scans they do for folks when doctors are trying to decipher whether or not someone has clinical epilepsy?

I knew a chick who was being tested for this and it was fucked up that in a world of somewhat modern medicine, they basically poured electrode glue all over her scalp like it was fucking shampoo and made her walk around with a halter monitor. For seizures. For days.

If a sleep specialist recommended anything ressemblent of that to me, I can tell you they'd better be checking brain patterns not related to sleep.

Hmm well it is an overnight study, however I don't believe I ever saw any glue on the patients, just regular electrode adhesive(altho having it on your scalp might make it a bit glue-ish), they were hooked to their head, appendages & a few to the torso.

Just an 8 hour over night thing, I did not see anyone who was able to sleep very well under the conditions they were in(less the ideal), no harness or days/weeks of study. That sounds terrible.

Insomnia is something I've suffered with for years, large amounts of exercise exacerbate it for me sometimes no matter the time of day I pick, finding a happy medium on everything you can & crossing your fingers for luck is the best solution I've found(which sucks a lot of the time).

~K.

[Parkbandit]

Failing that, sit in a car with the engine running and fix a hose pipe to the exhaust, feeding it back in through the window.

That makes you sleepy.

:rofl:

Winner and ultimate solution

[Stanley Burrell]

^

Bullshit, I have the insides of my shaggin' wagon smelling all like cotton candy to lure in unsuspecting 1-year olds and make it not look like the death trap that it is to lurking prostitutes. I am not re-scenting that fucker with carbon monoxide, kthnx.



Huh? Oh:


Is short term benzo regiment out of the question? Fairly safe transquilizer if used responsibility.

- Arkans

Extremely.

Unless there's an XR/XL form. The closest I've come was a Lyrica prescription: That's the kind of stuff they give to ParkBandit's wife for her shingles. It's that severe, esse.

I had a dumbfuck of a psychiatrist recommend Klonopin to me again once. After at least two months of treatment. I pretty much refuse to take more than 5mg of Zyprexa, yearly, for sleep. That's the only thing that works, besides smoking up, both of which hit me like a load of 120-200-pounds-in-fourth-months bricks.


Hmm well it is an overnight study, however I don't believe I ever saw any glue on the patients, just regular electrode adhesive(altho having it on your scalp might make it a bit glue-ish), they were hooked to their head, appendages & a few to the torso.

Just an 8 hour over night thing, I did not see anyone who was able to sleep very well under the conditions they were in(less the ideal), no harness or days/weeks of study. That sounds terrible.

Was this somewhat recently? Maybe (hopefully) the way that sleep studies + treatments are being performed has (hopefully, 2x) been upgraded.

I know if I start asking my physician making the referral for details he won't say anything. Jah, it's a matter of at least seeing a so-called sleep specialist once.

I'm'a be a Scientologist for the next five minutes, grrr.

[Kyra231]

It's been about 2 years since the last one I was at, one can hope they've upgraded the technique.

Get the name of the specialist & call to find out the procedures before making an appt?

~K.

[Stanley Burrell]

Get the name of the specialist & call to find out the procedures before making an appt?

Yup. Thanks, Kyra :)