Bhambi is one of those things..you know..a moron

[Moist Happenings]

In the mesh wand harness you see an aquamarine wand, a green malachite stone, a piece of amber, an aquamarine wand, an iron wand, a gingerbread elf and an aquamarine wand.
Laniac says, "I see."
Vadune drops some aloeas stem.
Vadune drops some ambrominas leaf.
Linsha smirks.
A thread of brackish blue magic suddenly appears and coils about Vadune's body. It whirls malevolently around him for a moment and then disappears within him.
Vadune shakes slightly and looks very vulnerable!
You trace an intricate sign that contorts in the air while forcefully invoking Implosion...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at Vadune.
A void rips open in the area, directly above Vadune!
Forceful decompression nearly turns Vadune inside out!
+167 Hits.

* Vadune drops dead at your feet!

Vadune appears a bit less vulnerable.

Everything in the room seemed to stay in place. The void disappears without further incident.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
* Vadune just bit the dust!
Linsha says, "Nice."
>l vad
You see Vadune Shra'Nek.
He appears to be a Half-Sylvan.
He appears to be young. He has dark eyes and fair skin. He has shoulder length, light brown hair.
He appears to be DEAD!
He has deep gashes and serious bleeding from his abdominal area, and deep gashes and serious bleeding from his chest.
He is bleeding badly from the abdomen, and badly from the chest.
He is holding an opalescent blue vultite falchion in his right hand and a piece of amber in his left hand.
He is wearing some silvered steel full plate, and a concealing heavily-hooded deep black cloak.
Xii gasps.
The ghostly voice of Vadune says, "I didn't steal frm you."
>'Have fun with that.
You say, "Have fun with that."
Bhambi chants a reverent litany and clasps her hands while tightly focusing her thoughts...
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
Bhambi gestures at you.
CS: +414 - TD: +279 + CvA: +15 + d100: +49 - -5 == +204
Warding failed!
Bhambi's face shimmers and vanishes, and, in its place, you see the image of an ancient man wearing a majestic crown of pure light. The lines of his face are weary, and a great, snow-white beard flows from his chin, but his heavy-lidded blue eyes transfix you with their power. Divine radiance blazes around the image, and you are blinded.
You are dazed!
You are in no condition to continue watching anything.
>'No. but you certainly stole from someone.
You are still stunned.
Laniac traces a sign while petitioning the spirits for cognition...
Laniac gestures.
A sense of peace and calm settles over the area.
Xii removes some aloeas stem from in her velvet backpack.
You are unable to regain focus and clarity.
You feel at full magical power again.
Vadune's body decays into compost.
Xii put some aloeas stem in her velvet backpack.
You are unable to regain focus and clarity.
Linsha gestures while calling upon the lesser spirits for aid...
Bhambi whispers, "He told me he didn't rob you so, you had no reason."
Linsha gestures at you.
You regain clarity and focus.
You are no longer stunned.
You say, "I'll do it again if I catch him stealin'."
You nod to Bhambi.
[Graveyard, Crypt]
The entry foyer to this enormous granite crypt is stark, adorned only with grisly friezes sculpted in low relief into the walls. Bands of bluish-green ahnver are inlaid into the stone in thin strips just below the ceiling throughout the entire structure, bathing the rooms in a subtle light. A shadowy arch curves overhead and leads deeper into the inner sanctum of the sepulcher. You also see some ambrominas leaf, some aloeas stem, the Linsha disk, a heavy quartz orb and a cracked urn.Also here: Linsha (sitting), Glanew (sitting), Lady Bhambi, Laniac (sitting), Xii (kneeling), Adremis (prone)
Obvious exits: out

In the mesh wand harness you see an aquamarine wand, a green malachite stone, an aquamarine wand, an iron wand, a gingerbread elf and an aquamarine wand.
Bhambi patiently says, "If you do it without him stealing from you, I will kill you."
>
Bhambi nods to you.
>smile
You smile.
>
Xii sadly asks, "Are those my herbs?"
>'That's your prerogative.
You say, "That's your prerogative."
>'As killing him for stealing is mine.
You say, "As killing him for stealing is mine."
>
Bhambi patiently says, "Twice for every death you give him."
>
Bhambi nods to you.
>
Laniac says, "They very well might be."
>'Now that wouldn't very well be your place either, now would it?
You ask, "Now that wouldn't very well be your place either, now would it?"
>smile politely.
Gremblar smiles politely.
>stand
You stand back up.
You say, "I'll be back."


Now, this is after a 15 minute argument with Vadune that he shouldn't drag people outside and attack them for sancting while he's stealing. Which I might add, Bhambi was there for. I vote her the new Rorac.

[Caramia]

Bhambi should mind her own business, it's not something she should be involved in. How did he tell her? In IMs? Which would mean it's an OOC attack. Perhaps he whispered, still... IT'S NONE OF HER BUSINESS AND SHE NEEDS TO STAY OUT IT!

He stole from someone, since a very nice curse was put on that gem, so he's not entirely innocent.

Bhambi's an idiot anyways. I don't know who owns or runs her now, but she almost raised me when I had a gaping wound and was negative blood. She didn't even fucking tend me. It's a good thing she ASKED if I wanted to be raised and I said not until I get an empath first. Of course, then she lost interest in me and wandered off, without unlinking.

[Edited on 12-13-2003 by Caramia]

[Moist Happenings]

Well okay, even if she had a point, which she really doesn't.


Bhambi whispers, "He told me he didn't rob you so, you had no reason."


-----------

Bhambi patiently says, "If you do it without him stealing from you, I will kill you."
>
Bhambi nods to you.

Bhambi patiently says, "Twice for every death you give him."

By her own logic in attacking and threatning to kill me, I am justified in killing him.

She's a fucking retard.

[Edited on 12-13-2003 by Neff]

[Caramia]

Now, this is after a 15 minute argument with Vadune that he shouldn't drag people outside and attack them for sancting while he's stealing. Which I might add, Bhambi was there for. I vote her the new Rorac.

Sancting a room is not consent to conflict. People that sanct and get attacked by him should report it. Vadune has a couple of other bodies that like to haunt the crypt too, so when one wears out its welcome, he brings another in.

[Sean]

how does she know if you saw him or not. if your hands are full you dont grab peoples wrists i dont believe.

[SpunGirl]

What a tardbag.

-K, cannot think of anything more profound at 3:30am.

[Moist Happenings]

Everybody in the room saw him. He was openly stealing, and dropping what he didn't like. Not to mention there's only one way to get your hand cursed on a piece of amber if you didn't first pick it up.

And also, to Caramia: I know. Normally i'll offer a thief a chance to live by trading the gem back. but he had already attacked one person in the room prior to this and threatened to kill others if they sancted. So I skipped a step.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Caramia

Sancting a room is not consent to conflict.

yes it is.

You sing a song or cast a sanct that is a area attack spell that negates actions.

[Betheny]

Bhambi is a real bitch.

She's owned by some Marine chick who thinks she's so awesome. I never liked her, and people told me that I'm 'like' her in my humor, which makes me want to kill myself.

Either way I still think she's a bitch and I'm insulted when anyone compares me to her. Ask Tayre or Jamus.

I will cross post something from another thred. I suggest imploding her if she does anything to get under your skin again... Its quite amusing i recieved a hour of IM's telling me how big a fucking prick i am etc. after I did this...

You swing a glyph-etched eonake falchion at Bhambi!
AS: +441 vs DS: +107 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +27 = +393
... and hit for 143 points of damage!
Massive blow smashes through ribs and drives Bhambi's heart out the back.

* Bhambi drops dead at your feet!

The dim aura fades from around Bhambi.
A white glow rushes away from Bhambi.
Bhambi seems hesitant.
Bhambi seems slightly different.
A golden aura fades from Bhambi.
The opalescent aura fades from around Bhambi.
The light blue glow leaves Bhambi.
The white light leaves Bhambi.
The very powerful look leaves Bhambi.
The brilliant aura fades away from Bhambi.
The powerful look leaves Bhambi.
Bhambi appears less confident.
Roundtime: 5 sec.

[Edited on 11-9-2003 by The Edine]

[Brat8525]

Bhambi has been sold??? I haven't played much in months, but the woman who was "her" was really sweet. We had alot of fun when I used to play my wizard, sheesh go away for awhile and you come back to people who aren't the people you remember!

Tara

[DCSL]

Blargh, there are other ways to get cursed things stuck to your hands. In the period of my GS life when nearly all my friends were sorcerers, we used to leave passably good cursed gems sitting around in open boxes at tables. Yeah. We were jerks.

bhambi was sold

[Praefection]

That was my gem he nabbed. Since the release of GS4 and being able to steal more than coins/gems I've taken to cursing almost EVERYTHING on Linsha. She has a ton of junk gems that are waiting to be caught. I was at work so I was on and off between paying attention so I don't really know why Bhambi was there. I think she's a real snot anyway and I think it was perfectly in your right to kill the idiot. In my opinion a curse is very obvious someone is stealing and it is worth a death, maybe not by me but anyone else is more than welcome.

[Praefection]

Oh and I think I did point out I had lots of cursed gems in my containers. It was his own fault for trying to steal and the death that followed.

[Drew2]

I used to be friends with Bhambi, but then she stole from me as a joke... and as a joke, I got her thrown in jail. Then she turned into psycho bitch and kept blinding me and binding me forever so after about an hour I just warned her so she would stop.

Yeah. She's a real gem.

[Nakiro]

I've called her names over Jamus' psinet client. Man, she takes everything waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously and personally.

She is a bitch stuck on perma-PMS.

[Caramia]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
yes it is.

You sing a song or cast a sanct that is a area attack spell that negates actions.

Wrong again, how many times am I going to have to correct you?

Sanctuary is not an offensive spell, it's a defensive spell. It's a peaceful spell, not an attack spell.

And it is definitely not a consent to conflict.

Don't believe me? Go ahead and assist... ask a Host, get a referral ask a GM. I already checked since I'm a cleric and one of Vadune's little snots tried to attack me.

[Kitsun]

Originally posted by Caramia

Originally posted by theotherjohn
yes it is.

You sing a song or cast a sanct that is a area attack spell that negates actions.

Wrong again, how many times am I going to have to correct you?

Sanctuary is not an offensive spell, it's a defensive spell. It's a peaceful spell, not an attack spell.

And it is definitely not a consent to conflict.

Don't believe me? Go ahead and assist... ask a Host, get a referral ask a GM. I already checked since I'm a cleric and one of Vadune's little snots tried to attack me.

I can't see how you can even view minor sanct as an attack spell of any kind. Its non-targetted, non-restricting.

If you don't like the sanct, you can simply move to another room. I mean even its name SANCTUARY, implies that it is non-hostile.

You can't even compare it to sleep, stun, binding, silencing or any of the others. Its a spell that doesn't allow people in the room to make hostile actions.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by Caramia

Wrong again, how many times am I going to have to correct you?

Sanctuary is not an offensive spell, it's a defensive spell. It's a peaceful spell, not an attack spell.

And it is definitely not a consent to conflict.

Don't believe me? Go ahead and assist... ask a Host, get a referral ask a GM. I already checked since I'm a cleric and one of Vadune's little snots tried to attack me.


since you checked.

Which GM was it?

Because I made a thread about it on Simu's board starting with message 24664 in the conflict folder and there was not an official comment.

[Warriorbird]

If it's avoiding conflict, it's reportable.

[Caramia]

You titled the thread:
"Am I the only one that considers bard area songs a personal attack?" and then went on to talk about how you didn't like it and thought it was an attack.

That's not asking "Is spell 213, which is Minor Sanctuary, considered an attack spell and consent to conflict?"

Sanctuary:
a place of refuge and protection

Minor:
inferior in importance, size, or degree : comparatively unimportant

To be honest, no I can't recall specifically which GM I spoke with, as I've had the misfortune of speaking with probably six hosts and five GMs in the last two weeks since the incident, being one of those unlucky few that has had a whole bushel of problems since converting to GS4.

But I do recall one night last week, after suffering all the idiots in the crypt, a younger cleric was complaining about being attacked to me and I advised him to report. He told me that he got a reply from a GM Zyliah or something, and that she'd keep an eye on things to see if he was attacked for sancting again.

You can certainly ask her, or you can post the question asking if 213 is an attack spell and consent to conflict on the official boards.

[HarmNone]

The only way I can see a sanct as being a problem is if someone picked a fight, then sancted to avoid the consequences. Of course, I do not play anymore, but that is the only thing that really makes sense.

HarmNone

[Caramia]

On that I'd happen to agree, but then, wouldn't that be abusing game mechanics?

[HarmNone]

I would think that using a sanct to avoid the consequences of your own actions would be abusing game mechanics. Yes.

HarmNone

[Parkbandit]

I've quite often grabbed my own cursed gems in my harness instead of getting the gem from my backpack.

Unless you have proof the thief stole from you or anyone else.. it's best to keep your spells to yourself. You assumed... and we all know what that does sometimes.

[Dragon Eye]

I bet 90% of the replies that are against the sancts are thieves

[AnticorRifling]

You bet wrong. Sanct pisses me off and I don't train in pickpocketing at all. It's bullshit that a lvl 13 person can disable an entire room from many different actions. Give me a dispell sanct spell and I'll stop being pissed.

[Dragon Eye]

I didn't say that all are but most. Yes it can be a pain that you can't do certain things in a sancted area such as steal, attack or do anything that basically is to harm someone. Yes you can check DS with a soft hit but thieves that sit there and prey on an empaths tips should be stopped in any way possible.

[Dragon Eye]

Sancts can easily be lifted after the situation is resolved

[Syberus]

Demons will be able to prevent the sancting of a room if they are present (I believe some kind of level check against the sancter and Sorcerer). It will be most useful.

[Dragon Eye]

All I'm saying is why is it wrong to have one sancted public room per town other then tables, for the purpose of healing. There are plenty of other areas for everything else. I do not agree with sancting just for the purpose of power tripping.

[Kurili]

Unfortunately, sanct in an invasion is often a bad thing. I've seen many invasions where the critters had offenses that were not prevented by the sanct, while the people did not. Undead things with sheer fear comes right to mind. Other things as well.

And for the record, none of mine has ever trained in pickpocketing, and most of mine have been able to cast sanct...and I HATE people who routinely walk into a room and sanct. Just my personal thing, of course.

Acolyte Kurili

[Artha]

but thieves that sit there and prey on an empaths tips should be stopped in any way possible.

Most empaths in TSC don't deserve their tips. I'd happily take them if the option were there.

[AnticorRifling]

One permantly sanct room is fine but idiots that sanct just to be idiots should be killed, rotted, killed, repeat. Sanct is for rescues not for hiding behind because your mouth makes checks your ass can't cash.

[HouseofElves]

I don't know this chick other than I've seen her around a few times, but I feel like Bhami is the name of like a sex phone operator. You know those ads in the back of magazines and they have that special little columned section.

"Live talk, Call Bhambi if you are feeling restless. 1-916-712-9455, First three minutes free."

[Betheny]

Originally posted by HouseofElves
I don't know this chick other than I've seen her around a few times, but I feel like Bhami is the name of like a sex phone operator. You know those ads in the back of magazines and they have that special little columned section.

"Live talk, Call Bhambi if you are feeling restless. 1-916-712-9455, First three minutes free."

Dunno about that, I'm just always tempted to get a shotgun and go after her mom.

Originally posted by Parkbandit
I've quite often grabbed my own cursed gems in my harness instead of getting the gem from my backpack.

Unless you have proof the thief stole from you or anyone else.. it's best to keep your spells to yourself. You assumed... and we all know what that does sometimes.

Wrong. I don't really care if I see the thief, if they have one of my gems in their hand, I will probably kill them without another word.

I know, you are going to say, "You can't do that, you have to catch them!!!" I did catch them, and the evidence is in their hand.

There are plenty of ways MECHANICALLY that can know POSITIVELY who stole from you (for example, the post that started this conflict) without seeing the message "You notice Thief reach into your pockets and remove a smooth stone." The clip that started this thread was a nice example of a foolproof thief catching method.

The sorceror was staring in his pack, the gem can't be stolen without it sending off an alarm, and the sorceror kills the person that has the gem in their hand -- it's cut and dry.

It never really comes down to that when done right, though. I try to kill the thief before they even get a chance to make a second pull, so they'll never know if I 'caught' them or not. Somehow I've managed to always kill the right thief -- amazing.

Originally posted by AnticorRifling
One permantly sanct room is fine but idiots that sanct just to be idiots should be killed, rotted, killed, repeat. Sanct is for rescues not for hiding behind because your mouth makes checks your ass can't cash.

Sing it from the rooftops! Your post made me laugh, but that is how I feel about it as well.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tea & Strumpets

Originally posted by Parkbandit
I've quite often grabbed my own cursed gems in my harness instead of getting the gem from my backpack.

Unless you have proof the thief stole from you or anyone else.. it's best to keep your spells to yourself. You assumed... and we all know what that does sometimes.

Wrong. I don't really care if I see the thief, if they have one of my gems in their hand, I will probably kill them without another word.

I know, you are going to say, "You can't do that, you have to catch them!!!" I did catch them, and the evidence is in their hand.

There are plenty of ways MECHANICALLY that can know POSITIVELY who stole from you (for example, the post that started this conflict) without seeing the message "You notice Thief reach into your pockets and remove a smooth stone." The clip that started this thread was a nice example of a foolproof thief catching method.

The sorceror was staring in his pack, the gem can't be stolen without it sending off an alarm, and the sorceror kills the person that has the gem in their hand -- it's cut and dry.

It never really comes down to that when done right, though. I try to kill the thief before they even get a chance to make a second pull, so they'll never know if I 'caught' them or not. Somehow I've managed to always kill the right thief -- amazing.

Wrong? ME?? Are you drunk again??

You are talking about killing a thief that has a cursed smoky topaz in his right hand and you just happen to be missing a cursed smoky topaz from your pink frilly bodice. You have enough proof in my book to deal with the thief as you see fit. You have both a thief with a cursed gem in his hand and a missing gem of the same description from your possession.

The initiator of this thread though only had half of the story... he saw someone with a cursed gem. He didn't know anyone was missing it.

[Warriorbird]

Sancting prevents a whole lot of legitmate spellcasting at times. It can get people killed.

Originally posted by ParkbanditWrong? ME?? Are you drunk again??

You are talking about killing a thief that has a cursed smoky topaz in his right hand and you just happen to be missing a cursed smoky topaz from your pink frilly bodice. You have enough proof in my book to deal with the thief as you see fit. You have both a thief with a cursed gem in his hand and a missing gem of the same description from your possession.

The initiator of this thread though only had half of the story... he saw someone with a cursed gem. He didn't know anyone was missing it.

Am I drunk again!? That's like asking if you still beat your wife.

In the mesh wand harness you see an aquamarine wand, a green malachite stone, a piece of amber, an aquamarine wand, an iron wand, a gingerbread elf and an aquamarine wand.

A thread of brackish blue magic suddenly appears and coils about Vadune's body. It whirls malevolently around him for a moment and then disappears within him.
Vadune shakes slightly and looks very vulnerable!

You see Vadune Shra'Nek.
He appears to be a Half-Sylvan.
He appears to be young. He has dark eyes and fair skin. He has shoulder length, light brown hair.
He appears to be DEAD!
He has deep gashes and serious bleeding from his abdominal area, and deep gashes and serious bleeding from his chest.
He is bleeding badly from the abdomen, and badly from the chest.
He is holding an opalescent blue vultite falchion in his right hand and a piece of amber in his left hand.
He is wearing some silvered steel full plate, and a concealing heavily-hooded deep black cloak.

The ghostly voice of Vadune says, "I didn't steal frm you."

In the mesh wand harness you see an aquamarine wand, a green malachite stone, an aquamarine wand, an iron wand, a gingerbread elf and an aquamarine wand.

*****

There was a piece of amber in that wand harness before the sorceror saw the 'curse messaging'.

[Jolena]

Originally posted by Artha

but thieves that sit there and prey on an empaths tips should be stopped in any way possible.

Most empaths in TSC don't deserve their tips. I'd happily take them if the option were there.

That's quite possibly the most ridiculous statement I have heard in a while. Who are you to decide if an empath doesn't deserve a tip? Obviously if someone GAVE it to them.. they deserved it in the tippers opinion. :rolleyes:

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Tea & Strumpets
Am I drunk again!? That's like asking if you still beat your wife.

There was a piece of amber in that wand harness before the sorceror saw the 'curse messaging'.

Yea.. well.. um.. yer stoopid. So there.

:duh:

[Moist Happenings]

::clears throat:: to clear this up, I was waiting for proof that he was stealing from anyone, seeing as everyone else had made their disapproval known, and he wasn't in any way trying to hide the fact that he was cleaning people out. There were 5 people in the room. 1 was Bhambi, 1 was the cleric he attacked for sancting, and 2 others plus me, who had been watching him steal for about half an hour and were getting tired of it. I was the only one who was old enough to deal with him, so I did.

Whether it was him that stole my amber(which was highly probable) or someone else that I simply didn't see, he was going to go down when he was caught stealing from anybody.

[Edited on 12-16-2003 by Neff]

[DeV]

and thats the bottom line..

[Czeska]

Someone mentioned bard songs... I assume Song of Peace?
What's the dillema, out of curiosity? I use 1011 if I'm hunting and someone is stunned a lot. Doesn't help much in invasions, since I'm 32 and most invasion critters are like 3549847549.
Anyway... anyone have comments?
btw the only time I felt a sanct was unnecessary was at helga's when someone sancted and there were 2 rogues practicing guild reps. It stopped them from working, and they were there first. No fair.
I also know someone who sancts whenever she goes into the East tower to get boxes picked. She doesn't want to get robbed, and it's very IC for her. Now granted, some may feel that the East Tower is a rogue's haven, and if someone doesn't wish to be robbed they should stay out. But then again... she wasn't hurting anyone by sancting, she was protecting herself. Sounds like a valid and IC use of that spell to me.

[Weedmage Princess]

Originally posted by DarkelfVold
and thats the bottom line..

Because Stone Cold said so?

[Wezas]

Originally posted by Czeska
Someone mentioned bard songs... I assume Song of Peace?

I love silencing bards that have that song up, allows me to continue thieving.

[Methais]

<<I also know someone who sancts whenever she goes into the East tower to get boxes picked.>>

It won't take very long before people stop opening her boxes if she keeps that up.

As for the sancting is invitation to PvP...all I can say is that Andraste has said sancting the boulder is an invitation to PvP. As for other rooms I guess it's a case by case thing.

[Rastaman]

After the sanctuary drops, just stun them and say "I had to suffer through your spell, now suffer through mine". Thats what I generally do.

[Edaarin]

Meh, I don't pick for people who sanct. It's not a big deal, it's not like it's hard to find a private picker.