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mgoddess
01-11-2008, 02:48 PM
Knowing that play.net is sometimes far out of date, does anyone know here if 112 is stackable or not? Play.net says it's cumulative, but two of my characters keep trying to stack it and it always drops early...

Help?

Katt
01-11-2008, 02:50 PM
112: Water Walking - 3:20:01



Works for me! hehe.

Liberi Fatali
01-11-2008, 02:59 PM
112: Water Walking - 3:20:01



Works for me! hehe.

Water Walking, as evident by Katt, is definitely stackable. Purify Air (207), however, is not. It's merely refreshable.

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 03:04 PM
112: Water Walking - 3:20:01



Works for me! hehe.

That's Lich (or PsiNet) talking. I get the same thing... I had 2:55:something left on my halo, and it dropped.

That's why I'm asking in the first place.

Katt
01-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Hmmmm, that is really odd perhaps you should assist about it? I know for sure mine lasts for four hours because I never see it drop like my other spells... Perhaps lich is just not registering the right time?

How old is the character? Did you make sure you typed info and all that stuff so that it tracks your skills and age right?

ThatDamnTep
01-11-2008, 03:13 PM
It absolutely stacks. I stack four hours on myself every four hours. Never had a problem.

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Hmmmm, that is really odd perhaps you should assist about it? I know for sure mine lasts for four hours because I never see it drop like my other spells... Perhaps lich is just not registering the right time?

How old is the character? Did you make sure you typed info and all that stuff so that it tracks your skills and age right?

Lich is definitely registering the right time.

Character's 18, with 18 ranks in MnS. Lich's spell-info file is seeing Water Walking as stackable. For this character, it dropped almost 3 hours early... this is making me want to test my other character (level 48 with 16 ranks in MnS) and see if I can replicate it with her.

If it happens again, with either of the characters, I have to agree: an assist will be in order.

Celephais
01-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Lich/psinet don't see the time remaining from the server, they just see the casts and add them up, very easy for it to be off (especially losing/gaining seconds around logoff, or lag around when it's cast). I also don't know what Lich/Psinet do about the max duration cap (I believe this is 250mins ...).

I wouldn't go assisting saying that gemstone isn't "matching" what lich is showing you...

Katt
01-11-2008, 03:44 PM
Yes but by the website her spell should atleast be lasting 20 minutes a cast, if it isn't thats all she really has to say.

Usually if you are having issues like getting kicked from the game etc, the first thing they will tell you is to stop using second party programs.

Seems to me its obvious the spell time is messed up even without mentioning lich/psinet though.

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 03:44 PM
Lich/psinet don't see the time remaining from the server, they just see the casts and add them up, very easy for it to be off (especially losing/gaining seconds around logoff, or lag around when it's cast). I also don't know what Lich/Psinet do about the max duration cap (I believe this is 250mins ...).

I wouldn't go assisting saying that gemstone isn't "matching" what lich is showing you...

I know this. But when a spell is supposed to last 70 minutes and drops at 35 minutes, something's wrong.

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 03:46 PM
Seems to me its obvious the spell time is messed up even without mentioning lich/psinet though.

Yep. Once my character levels, I'll be doing more testing. Yes, she'll be getting another spell rank that will affect how long 112 lasts, but it won't affect the non-stacking bug. (I'll log on with her without Lich and time it manually.)

CrystalTears
01-11-2008, 04:04 PM
Lich/psinet don't see the time remaining from the server, they just see the casts and add them up, very easy for it to be off (especially losing/gaining seconds around logoff, or lag around when it's cast). I also don't know what Lich/Psinet do about the max duration cap (I believe this is 250mins ...).

I wouldn't go assisting saying that gemstone isn't "matching" what lich is showing you...
I'm not so sure about that. I use Lich and there's one spell that my empath uses that can't be stacked, and it always shows nothing more than the 15 minutes it can be up for.

Celephais
01-11-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm not so sure about that. I use Lich and there's one spell that my empath uses that can't be stacked, and it always shows nothing more than the 15 minutes it can be up for.
Right, but that's per spell, Lich has to program in the durations for each spell on a per spell basis... so it's very possible that Lich could accidently think that it's a stacking spell when it's not a stacking spell. I'm just saying it's not an authority.

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 04:19 PM
Right, but that's per spell, Lich has to program in the durations for each spell on a per spell basis... so it's very possible that Lich could accidently think that it's a stacking spell when it's not a stacking spell. I'm just saying it's not an authority.

As per my original post:

Play.net says it's cumulative, but two of my characters keep trying to stack it and it always drops early...

It's not just Lich saying it's stackable, it's play.net as well. Thus why I also originally stated that Play.net is not always up-to-date and why I was asking here.

Celephais
01-11-2008, 04:23 PM
I mis-read the OP then... my bad. I thought you said Play.net says it's not cumulative.

Katt
01-11-2008, 04:24 PM
I have 40 ranks in minor spirit and my emapth is level 75, lich says water walking lasts an hour per cast for her. I did four casts when I woke up, 3 hours later I have about an hour left in lich and its still on me when I type spell active.

Have you tried like putting 8 or so casts on yourself and seeing if it lasts?

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Yep. I had it up to somewhere in the 3 hour range (according to Lich) when I first posted... it dropped after the duration of one cast.

I'm currently testing (again)... if it drops (again), I'll be assisting.

Katt
01-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Well damn, that is pretty weird. Good luck! Let us know of the outcome!

mgoddess
01-11-2008, 07:36 PM
I'll be assisting.

And assist I did...

Three hours later, all the GameHost could tell me is that play.net's info is wrong (with regards to the duration) and that the spell is working as intended (it was in fact stacking for me).

So, be wary of your halo's... their duration stacks, but when two 39-minute casts only last for 40 minutes, somethings' wonky. (And no, the GH could not tell me what the duration is supposed to be. The GM's in charge of the website have been informed and will fix the 112 entry as needed.)