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[Solkern]

Thought i'd share this with you guys

It's a video my guild downing probably the hardest boss in wow

I'm the little guy with the moon over his head, Always to the right

http://files.filefront.com/9410697

[Tsa`ah]

The music made me mute ... the crappy camera positioning made me close it.

Gratz though.

[oldanforgotten]

Thought i'd share this with you guys

It's a video my guild downing probably the hardest boss in wow

I'm the little guy with the moon over his head, Always to the right

http://files.filefront.com/9410697

Grats and good job. Archi definitely is one of the more difficult bosses, although I would say Vashj was definitely a tougher fight to learn. Full props have to be reserved for an alliance kill, as the combination of WoTF and PvP trinket makes Archi?s doomfires are everywhere fears a lot easier to handle for a good 5-10 people (whoever is undead) in the raid.

Good luck on the biggest challenge that TBC has to offer now, RoS. Best advice I can give:

1) Warlocks need to be real careful about lifetapping, because if they get too low and some dots tick, they die
2) One tank with ridiculous evasion, one tank with maxed out block for phase 1
3) Nature Protection Pots are a must for Phase 3
4) Tanks need to stay rage starved for soul screams, but have enough to reflect Deaden
5) For God?s sake don?t use BoP, Vanish, Feign or Invis for enrages in Phase 1
6) Don?t be afraid to wipe?.. a lot. Oh my god a lot.
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[Solkern]

Grats and good job. Archi definitely is one of the more difficult bosses, although I would say Vashj was definitely a tougher fight to learn. Full props have to be reserved for an alliance kill, as the combination of WoTF and PvP trinket makes Archi’s doomfires are everywhere fears a lot easier to handle for a good 5-10 people (whoever is undead) in the raid.

Good luck on the biggest challenge that TBC has to offer now, RoS. Best advice I can give:

1) Warlocks need to be real careful about lifetapping, because if they get too low and some dots tick, they die
2) One tank with ridiculous evasion, one tank with maxed out block for phase 1
3) Nature Protection Pots are a must for Phase 3
4) Tanks need to stay rage starved for soul screams, but have enough to reflect Deaden
5) For God’s sake don’t use BoP, Vanish, Feign or Invis for enrages in Phase 1
6) Don’t be afraid to wipe….. a lot. Oh my god a lot.

Meh he wasn't to bad

RoS has been downed on the 2nd night of attempts
Frapsed and will post it!

[oldanforgotten]

Well, then, Hopefully within a week you?ll be on Illidan, and another week or so, and you?ll be just farmin it up in preparation for the Sunwell. If you were able to down him so fast, the DPS and healing are definitely up to snuff. Phase 3 is generally the phase that can take guilds a long time to get down. Our first downing of him was with our normal raid setup, 14 DPS, 7 healers, 4 tanks, but now with only 2 tanks and an extra DPS and healer, the fight is pretty straightforward.

For Mother Shahraz, she is a joke, but a random bitch. If your healers were good through RoS, this wont be an issue for healing, but no matter how good you get, the random teleports with fatal attraction will get you from time to time. 2 people teleported onto the tanks with fatal attraction is an almost certain wipe, as is the rare ?both off tanks avoided two consecutive saberlashes and got fatal attraction'd, leaving the MT outright hosed for the next saberlash? situation. The council is 90% pull, 10% timely interrupts, 100% win, and Illidan has only one tough phase, phase 2. Phase 5 while you?re learning it will be annoying, because at times, Maiev will put his trap someplace stupid that requires 10 seconds of kiting to get to, but once you outgear the fight, you shouldn?t need to kite anymore.
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[Alfster]

Nerdiest thread ever.

[Skeeter]

Nerdiest thread ever.

You're posting on a website for a text based RP game and you have a gay dolphin for an avatar

STFU

[Alfster]

Exactly. Thank you for putting things in perspective.

[Skeeter]

I'm like a public service announcement.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Grats and good job. Archi definitely is one of the more difficult bosses, although I would say Vashj was definitely a tougher fight to learn. Full props have to be reserved for an alliance kill, as the combination of WoTF and PvP trinket makes Archi’s doomfires are everywhere fears a lot easier to handle for a good 5-10 people (whoever is undead) in the raid.

Good luck on the biggest challenge that TBC has to offer now, RoS. Best advice I can give:

1) Warlocks need to be real careful about lifetapping, because if they get too low and some dots tick, they die
2) One tank with ridiculous evasion, one tank with maxed out block for phase 1
3) Nature Protection Pots are a must for Phase 3
4) Tanks need to stay rage starved for soul screams, but have enough to reflect Deaden
5) For God’s sake don’t use BoP, Vanish, Feign or Invis for enrages in Phase 1
6) Don’t be afraid to wipe….. a lot. Oh my god a lot.

Once you guys get that down Onyxia shouldn't be a problem. Have the tank position Onyxia away from the raid with his back towards the wall at the end of the cavern. Be careful with DPS because Onyxia does a cleave that reduces the tank's aggro.

All jokes aside, why do you give a strategic breakdown of a boss fight in every other post?

[oldanforgotten]

Once you guys get that down Onyxia shouldn't be a problem. Have the tank position Onyxia away from the raid with his back towards the wall at the end of the cavern. Be careful with DPS because Onyxia does a cleave that reduces the tank's aggro.

All jokes aside, why do you give a strategic breakdown of a boss fight in every other post?

Because it may help them get the next boss down? Why does it matter?
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[Skeeter]

I wonder if I'll be able to solo Onyxia in WotLK

[Methais]

Once you guys get that down Onyxia shouldn't be a problem. Have the tank position Onyxia away from the raid with his back towards the wall at the end of the cavern. Be careful with DPS because Onyxia does a cleave that reduces the tank's aggro.

All jokes aside, why do you give a strategic breakdown of a boss fight in every other post?

Because he's the most skilled raider on the PC with unmatched skills at the internets (especially when it comes to catching hackers), and nobody here is allowed to forget it.


Meh he wasn't to bad

RoS has been downed on the 2nd night of attempts
Frapsed and will post it!

Pwned.

[oldanforgotten]

I never said I was the most skilled at anything. You just assume that I say that because I think pvp epics are welfare epics considering the amount of time needed to get them relative to pve epics. And last I saw, you talking about all the skill involved in PvP, and how amazing difficult it was just as much e-peen stroking. Considering the rating of your teams, well, whatever.

And how is them having downed RoS in 2 nights pwned? Great, grats to them, they got it down faster than most. It is a testament to their good play, not a detriment to others, certainly not from someone who has no experience on the fight.
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[Methais]

You just assume that I say that because I think pvp epics are welfare epics considering the amount of time needed to get them relative to pve epics.

No, but thanks for assuming that I'm assuming.


And last I saw, you talking about all the skill involved in PvP, and how amazing difficult it was just as much e-peen stroking.

I never said PvP was some skill intensive amazingly difficult thing. I said the welfare epic/ease of getting S3 gear thing isn't an issue of anything except people QQing that some scrub has the same gear as a high rated team, because skilled pvpers will still pwn shitty pvpers anyway.


Considering the rating of your teams, well, whatever.

Since you don't seemed to have figured it out yet, I don't play Leeroy. You have heard of Leeroy right?


And how is them having downed RoS in 2 nights pwned? Great, grats to them, they got it down faster than most. It is a testament to their good play, not a detriment to others, certainly not from someone who has no experience on the fight.

The pwned was for you, because:


Grats and good job. Archi definitely is one of the more difficult bosses, although I would say Vashj was definitely a tougher fight to learn. Full props have to be reserved for an alliance kill, as the combination of WoTF and PvP trinket makes Archi’s doomfires are everywhere fears a lot easier to handle for a good 5-10 people (whoever is undead) in the raid.

Good luck on the biggest challenge that TBC has to offer now, RoS. Best advice I can give:

1) Warlocks need to be real careful about lifetapping, because if they get too low and some dots tick, they die
2) One tank with ridiculous evasion, one tank with maxed out block for phase 1
3) Nature Protection Pots are a must for Phase 3
4) Tanks need to stay rage starved for soul screams, but have enough to reflect Deaden
5) For God’s sake don’t use BoP, Vanish, Feign or Invis for enrages in Phase 1
6) Don’t be afraid to wipe….. a lot. Oh my god a lot.

Which was met with:


Meh he wasn't to bad

RoS has been downed on the 2nd night of attempts
Frapsed and will post it!

[Celephais]

I must say that OldAndForgotten in every WoW post comes off as rather snooty. Grats Solk.

[oldanforgotten]

No, you play Methais the undead mage. And your arena ratings are even worse than leeroys. far far far worse. If you had leeroy's ratings, I certainly would not have brought the subject up. You're definitely pwning it up in arena's man, good work.

My rogue and my enhance shammy are both in the 1600's and 1700's across the board, and neither of them comes even close to the 297 (which still sucks) resilience you have, so you are absolutely right, shitty players in 4/5 glad gear will still get pwned by mediocre pvpers in mostly pve gear.

As for them getting RoS that fast, again, great, awesome for them. It proves they are good and that they have good technical coordination as well as strong DPS and healing. They should be complete with BT within a month at the most. We took a solid 5 nights over 3 weeks on him, so props to those guys, they took down a tough fight pretty quick.
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[Sean of the Thread]

I for one appreciate Oldanforgotten's strategic breakdowns.

Currently we're having trouble with Heathcliff. I'm hoping you could give me some pointers on how to down this pesky cat.

Keep in mind your "run the cat over" strategy mentioned in a prior post won't work for us since we can't equip FOUR WHEELS OF FURY!!! yet. Still working on that drop.

thx in advance.

[Methais]

No, you play Methais the undead mage. And your arena ratings are even worse than leeroys. far far far worse. If you had leeroy's ratings, I certainly would not have brought the subject up. You're definitely pwning it up in arena's man, good work.

Yes, because like I said in the welfare epic thread, my arena team makeup sucks. But I play with friends I've been running with since back when GS was cool. So we could either reroll for a class combo we'd have less fun with and break 2000+ rating overnight, (since class makeup is usually the biggest factor when it comes to arenas) or we could do arenas with other people. No thanks for either. While we're at it, learn when and when not to use apostrophes.

Here's my team makeup:

2v2: Mage, MS warrior
3v3: Mage, MS war, MS war
5v5: Not really active since our paladin quit WoW a while back and for some reason they haven't recruited another one, but last time we played it was mage, 2x MS war, enh shaman, resto druid.


My rogue and my enhance shammy are both in the 1600's and 1700's across the board, and neither of them comes even close to the 297 (which still sucks) resilience you have, so you are absolutely right, shitty players in 4/5 glad gear will still get pwned by mediocre pvpers in mostly pve gear.

Yep, my gear sucks. I never said my gear was great. Since BC came out I've played extremely casually. I either do BGs here and there or I do arenas, and that's pretty much it. If I don't feel like doing arenas (or playing WoW) that week, I don't.

Clearly this means I'm a shitty pvper and not nearly as skilled as you at the internets, right?

[oldanforgotten]

Yes, because like I said in the welfare epic thread, my arena team makeup sucks. But I play with friends I've been running with since back when GS was cool. So we could either reroll for a class combo we'd have less fun with and break 2000+ rating overnight, (since class makeup is usually the biggest factor when it comes to arenas) or we could do arenas with other people. No thanks for either. Also, learn how to use apostrophes.

Here's my team makeup:

2v2: Mage, MS warrior
3v3: Mage, MS war, MS war
5v5: Not really active since our paladin quit WoW a while back and for some reason they haven't recruited another one, but last time we played it was mage, 2x MS war, enh shaman, resto druid.

Yep, my gear sucks. I never said my gear was great. Since BC came out I've played extremely casually. I either do BGs here and there or I do arenas, and that's pretty much it. If I don't feel like doing arenas (or playing WoW) that week, I don't.

Clearly this means I'm a shitty pvper and not nearly as skilled as you at the internets, right?

At the 1400 and 1500 rating levels, you would still win more than you lose no matter what the makeup.
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[Methais]

At the 1400 and 1500 rating levels, you would still win more than you lose no matter what the makeup.

You're right. But apparently you didn't notice how in 2v2 and 3v3, I've won more than I've lost.

[Apotheosis]

I for one appreciate Oldanforgotten's strategic breakdowns.

Currently we're having trouble with Heathcliff. I'm hoping you could give me some pointers on how to down this pesky cat.

Keep in mind your "run the cat over" strategy mentioned in a prior post won't work for us since we can't equip FOUR WHEELS OF FURY!!! yet. Still working on that drop.

thx in advance.

U need the Buff of Chuck Norris

[Solkern]

Leviathan Breezes through RoS

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[Solkern]

http://files.filefront.com/9483952

[Solkern]

Kinda sad really, especially since i bit it in phase 2 :/

I cast lightning bolt, then chain lightning, and deaden gets reflected as SOON as i finish my cast, and both lightning bolt and chain lightning hit at the same time, for 10.5k dmg each, So i take half of that back
so we went through phase 3 with only 24 members heh