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Siefer
12-11-2003, 03:13 AM
Sup guys, I'm back after about a year off. Looking for your input on my mage cleric. I have 3 stat reallocations left and 25 or so days left for my skills.


Name: Siefer Beduul Race: Giant Profession: Cleric (shown as: Acolyte)
Gender: Male Age: 30 Expr: 617345 Level: 23
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 61 (20) ... 61 (20)
Constitution (CON): 43 (7) ... 43 (7)
Dexterity (DEX): 92 (16) ... 92 (16)
Agility (AGI): 74 (7) ... 74 (7)
Discipline (DIS): 43 (-3) ... 43 (-3)
Aura (AUR): 96 (18) ... 96 (18)
Logic (LOG): 79 (9) ... 79 (9)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 99 (24) ... 99 (24)
Influence (INF): 67 (13) ... 67 (13)
Mana: 96 Silver: 592
>skill
Siefer (at level 23), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 30 6 6
Physical Fitness...................| 58 12 12
Spell Aiming.......................| 148 48 48
Harness Power......................| 132 36 36
Spirit Mana Control................| 132 36 36
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 40 8 8
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 102 24 24
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 40 8 8
Perception.........................| 58 12 12
Climbing...........................| 50 10 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10 10

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 10 10
Minor Spirit.......................| 20 20
Cleric.............................| 22 22
Training Points: 138 Phy 0 Mnt (410 Phy converted to Mnt)

Siefer
12-11-2003, 03:14 AM
Damn, my eyes are bleeding from all those numbers...

Snapp
12-11-2003, 12:55 PM
I take it from lack of weapon/shield training you want to hold a stave... You need more magical skills.. like arcane symbols, and magic item use.. As a cleric, I'd try to 2x mana control too.

Moist Happenings
12-11-2003, 01:00 PM
I don't have a cleric right now, and as such I don't remember what stats/skills affect what, but if i'd suggest taking down dexterity and raising discipline. more training points = better than higher stats in the long run.

Kitsun
12-11-2003, 01:30 PM
He's trained with spell aiming, if he tanks his dex any his bolts will be really weak.

Generally as a runestaff user, you should aim for their minimum which is 8-9 magical ranks per level.

I think 1.5 HP is good but you can drop down SMC to 1x. The cost vs rewards of the extra training aren't really worth it, if you want just throw it into HP so you have more mana. SMC doesn't affect smite/bane infusion now.

I agree with Snapp you should probably find room to 1x in AS and MIU as well.

I'm not sure what spells you hunt with but I'd ditch blessing lore for now. There's not much you can do with it unless your looking foward to Holy Receptacle(If so, don't get your hopes up). You've got points buried there.

Siefer
12-11-2003, 11:19 PM
Currently, I just 302 my way through Warfs...that's pretty much all I do. Haven't used anything else so far. I don't know anything about holy receptacle, knowing Simu it will go live in GSVI. I'm gonna go play around with goals for a couple minutes. I'll get back to you later.

Siefer
12-11-2003, 11:45 PM
Back from training. Lost some spells, removed all blessing and summoning lores. Singled AS, MIU, and SMC. Gonna do a warf hunt now and see how it goes.

Siefer (at level 23), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 30 6 6
Physical Fitness...................| 62 13 13
Arcane Symbols.....................| 105 25 25
Magic Item Use.....................| 105 25 25
Spell Aiming.......................| 150 50 50
Harness Power......................| 134 37 37
Spirit Mana Control................| 150 50 50
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 105 25 25
Perception.........................| 62 13 13
Climbing...........................| 50 10 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10 10

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 3 3
Minor Spirit.......................| 20 20
Cleric.............................| 23 23
Training Points: 334 Phy 0 Mnt (196 Phy converted to Mnt)

Siefer
12-12-2003, 12:03 AM
Somehow, my Smite CS went down by 2. Anyone know how that happened?

Flurbins
12-12-2003, 12:09 AM
You should get 211 and 215 for some extra bolt AS

Siefer
12-12-2003, 12:13 AM
Right now I'm just 302'ing my way through warfs. I haven't had any use for bolt spells yet. Hopefully sometime in the future all this spell aiming will pay off.

Flurbins
12-12-2003, 12:51 AM
Do you channel or cast, what stance, and with what in your hands? (306 is a really really nice spell, especially if you 2x religion.)

Siefer
12-12-2003, 04:15 AM
I 302 Warfs with a runestaff and empty left hand. Channel at them in guarded usually. So many little details go into hunting these days.

Kitsun
12-12-2003, 04:31 AM
That last snippet you posted was still 2x in SMC. If your a baner, I'd consider overtraining in Religion Lore.

Supposedly overtraining more than 1x provides more benefit than each rank adding up to the 1x.

Someone from the official boards did some numbers on his infusion rate with half trained, full trained and overtrained religion lore. Something like each rank counts as 0.01 to the percentile but it skewed heavily post-1x to like 0.025 per. The numbers probably aren't accurate because I just pulled them out of my head but thats where I'd put the SMC points.

Siefer
12-12-2003, 05:11 AM
Skill goals updated!

Siefer (at level 23), your skill bonuses and ranks are:
Skill Name | Bonus Ranks Goals Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 30 6 6
Physical Fitness...................| 62 13 13
Arcane Symbols.....................| 105 25 25
Magic Item Use.....................| 105 25 25
Spell Aiming.......................| 150 50 50
Harness Power......................| 134 37 37
Spirit Mana Control................| 150 50 50
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 134 37 37
Perception.........................| 62 13 13
Climbing...........................| 50 10 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10 10

Spell Lists
Major Spirit.......................| 3 3
Minor Spirit.......................| 20 20
Cleric.............................| 23 23
Training Points: 55 Phy 0 Mnt (478 Phy converted to Mnt)