enhancive thresholds

[justincredible]

Anyone know the breakdown for how much training equals large amounts, middling amounts, impressive amounts, goodly amounts and all that??

Thanks

~S

[Stanley Burrell]

Do you mean how cranked up you can enhance an Artisan Guild badge based on level?

I think you can get a +3 bonus to a stat after level 50ish, but don't quote me on that.

If you mean a threshold in regards as to how much a certain stat can be enhanced, then the answer for that is you essentially would look at what that stat's bonus would be at 100 (i.e. a Halfling would have a 40 DEX bonus at 100 base DEX) and then add 20 to the maxed, non-enhancive bonus (the Halfling could not enhance their DEX bonus beyond 60.)

I think there are some obscure instances of phantom bonuses, such as with SURGE when you already have a +20 bonus to STR prior to surging and are still able to increase your AS a little bit without the numbers fully indicating that when you type INFO.

[Lord Nelek]

I think he means..

Impressive amounts of TWC skill = 125 Ranks etc.

(I made that up, don't use it as fact)

[Stanley Burrell]

HRM.

I guess it would all depend on what profession he is. I'll just use lores for magic-using professions since those are tiered:

justincredible, https://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/ (if you're a spellcasting class) will list the thresholds of the Elemental and Spiritual lores and how they play into the effectiveness and outcome of certain spells. Not all are listed in a precise numerical requirement for "special" and new bonuses/effects to begin applying.

As far as training goes, your bonus for any skill will start at +5 for the first ten ranks (0-10) in training for that skill. That means that if you train in one-handed edged weapons ten times (10 ranks), you will get +50 AS swinging a handaxe. Every ten ranks after that, each skill's bonus is reduced by 1. Training from 10-20 ranks in OHEs will provide you with a +40 bonus in addition to your +50 1-10 ranks trained, giving you a whopping total of +90 AS when swinging your broadsword at critters.

The best way to train in physical weapon skills (for a square) is, in my humble opinion, double-training your weapon skill each and every level and at least 1.75x-ing your Combat Maneuvers skill.

Loretraining is more advantageous because you can independently reach a lore plateau that will give you an effective bonus and decide whether to invest TPs in increasing a particular spell circle with lores or investing in other facets of your skills. For example, if I play a sorcerer who trains in Necromancy lore and I feel comfortable with an effective 711-ing of critters, I can stasis it while investing in other aspects of my training as aside to a more rigid having to double/single/1.5x in order to compete with the various critters of Elanthia.

[Celephais]

Stan... focus.

When you loresing to an enhancive it says something like "Requires an impressive amount of training in two weapon combat to get the bonus" And then you only get the bonus if you have 150 ranks of TWC (not sure what it is).

He wants to know what each of the thresholds for "impressive" etc are.

[B2]

The thresholds aren't a set number I don't think.

For instance, the mithril bracer sung as "large amount" and the kris sang as "impressive amount", but they both require 100 ranks in TWC to use.

"Middling" was 20 for the human gem enhancives at EG.

"Goodly" was 40 for the same.

[Stanley Burrell]

Stan... focus.

When you loresing to an enhancive it says something like "Requires an impressive amount of training in two weapon combat to get the bonus" And then you only get the bonus if you have 150 ranks of TWC (not sure what it is).

He wants to know what each of the thresholds for "impressive" etc are.

OH!

In that case, 50 ranks of brawling for the storm agate bracers. Stop there. All this middling malarkey makes my teeth hurt.

[justincredible]

You guys are amazing!!

Now that being said come on you crazy number crunchers. Where's my nicely formatted table with thousands of tests, cross-references and insider information??

No, really. Thanks for the help. Pissed about not being able to use any of the two-weapon stuff but gives me something to look forward to. Now buy my main-gauche