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Sylvan Dreams
12-14-2007, 05:55 AM
(Personally, I think they look demonic.)

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/13/514602.aspx?GT1=10645[/URL]

South Korean scientists say they have cloned cats whose genes have been altered so that they glow in the dark - taking advantage of a technological twist that could someday be used to make more dramatic genetic changes in all sorts of creatures.
A research team at Gyeongsang National University, headed by Kong Il-Keun, produced several kitty clones in January and February, the [URL="http://www.korea.net/news/news/newsView.asp?serial_no=20071212009"]government-managed Korea.net news service (http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/13/514602.aspx?GT1=10645) reported Wednesday. This week the scientists showed off the cats, which now weigh about 7 pounds (3 to 3.5 kilograms) and glow a dull red under ultraviolet light.
"The ability to manipulate the fluorescent protein and use this to clone cats opens new horizons for artificially creating animals with human illnesses linked to genetic causes," the Ministry of Science and Technology said in Wednesday's report.
The procedure for cloning a cat has been around for six years (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16213548/), and Kong himself first performed that particular feat back in 2004. What's noteworthy about the newly reported twist - other than that glow-in-the-dark kitties are really cool - is that scientists fiddled with the donor cat's genetic code, then passed those changes on to the clones.
Here's what the researchers say they did: They took skin cells from Turkish Angora female cats and used a virus to insert the genetic instructions for making red fluorescent protein. Then they put the gene-altered nuclei into eggs for cloning. The cloned embryos were implanted back into the donor cats, which effectively became the surrogate mothers for their own clones.
Four kittens were born by Caesarian section, but one of them died during the procedure, according to the Korea Times (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2007/12/123_15447.html). The fact that the kittens' skin cells glowed under ultraviolet light served as evidence that they were really gene-altered clones.
Assuming that the results are confirmed, Kong's cats would join mice (http://www.biolreprod.org/cgi/content/full/64/1/44) and pigs (http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/93521176/ABSTRACT) in the glow-in-the-dark clone menagerie. The implication is that if you can pass along the easy-to-recognize coding for fluorescent markers through cloning, you could eventually pass along more complex genetic coding.
Theoretically, you could add in the coding for an endangered species, producing cloned hybrids to boost the gene pool for Sumatran tigers (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4539423/), Iberian lynxes (http://www.felineconservation.org/species/Iberianbirth.asp?key=285) and the like. You might even stick in the coding to give other creatures human diseases, so that they can be studied without raising the level of ethical concern that comes with human experimentation. (I realize that there's a different set of ethical concerns about such trangenic experiments, however.)
Most provocatively, animal clones might be genetically altered to produce human body parts. Does that sound like a way-out science-fiction plot? Well, it's already happening (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10441350/), and sparking an unsettling debate (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/).
This week's report doesn't mean that glow-in-the-dark pets will be waiting under the Christmas tree anytime soon. There are a few caveats surrounding these cats:

This research came to light through press releases rather than peer-reviewed articles, and many of the details still have to be published and replicated. It doesn't help that South Korea was ground zero for the biggest scientific scandal in cloning (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20878434/) just a couple of years ago. You'll want to wait for confirmation before you put too much stock in Kong's glowing reports.
Even if the results are confirmed, they represent just one more small step in the long march of genetic progress. Those cool fluorescent proteins merely serve as a guide for more substantive genetic modifications.
Even if glow-in-the-dark cats become routine in the laboratory, that doesn't mean they'll hit it off as housepets. Glow-in-the-dark fish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GloFish) have been offered commercially for several years - but they're still illegal in California and many countries, due to concerns about genetically modified organisms. What's more, it costs tens of thousands of dollars to produce just one run-of-the-mill, non-glowing cat clone - a price tag so hefty that it's not commercially viable (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15226907).

Asha
12-14-2007, 06:53 AM
I saw this on in the Metro yesterday. I think it's insane.
I loved the ''just in time for xmas'' though. I laughed.

Stanley Burrell
12-14-2007, 07:26 AM
The plasmid really isn't that hard to invaginate. It could absolutely be done on humans.

Asha
12-14-2007, 07:46 AM
Heh you said ''vag''

ElanthianSiren
12-16-2007, 11:49 AM
The plasmid really isn't that hard to invaginate. It could absolutely be done on humans.

:yeahthat: It's really really really basic splicing; you do it in your first year as a science undergrad, albeit on e-coli usually, but sometimes on mice. They're so damn cute.

Sylvan Dreams
12-16-2007, 11:56 AM
The plasmid really isn't that hard to invaginate. It could absolutely be done on humans.

....glow in the dark pubic hair?

Stanley Burrell
12-16-2007, 12:06 PM
I dunno, that'd probably be just a tad bit more difficult to clonally expand. Glow-in-the-dark pubes are always a fantastic conversation piece, though. Try it!

The first time I had one of my old bio professors utter the uberly forbidden invag' word, I kind of felt a little "Beavis and Butthead" too, to tell the truth :embarrassed: And I've heard horror stories about OBGYN dept. power point presentations during grand rounds on certain STD research. Way more graphic than them high school videos, or something.

ElanthianSiren
12-16-2007, 03:20 PM
....glow in the dark pubic hair?

Actually, 1:26 caucasians are carriers of Cystic Fibrosis, which is a malfunction in chloride ion channel producing genes (it's recessive though). What they're trying to do with it is splice the gene into rDNA (recombinant DNA) in something like a bacteriophage (or crippled virus) and infect the human with the non pathogenic gene carried. The way they find the specific genes of interest within multiple colonies (in which some have recombinant DNA and some don't) is to radiolabel them with a protein that glows under black light.

Instantly, chloride ion channels have the genes they need.

It's pretty exciting stuff, but it doesn't work as well as it sounds like it would on paper. You'd need to inject a lot before one works, and your HMO sure as hell isn't going to cover it.

Sylvan Dreams
12-16-2007, 03:44 PM
Actually, 1:26 caucasians are carriers of Cystic Fibrosis, which is a malfunction in chloride ion channel producing genes

Damn, that leaves me out.

I guess I'll have to settle for pasty rhinestones or something.

ElanthianSiren
12-16-2007, 04:43 PM
Just saying as an example. Most individuals carry an assortment of what we now consider undesirable (disease) genes in varying states of expression based on their genetic background. With cystic fibrosis, they propose that the CF genes were magnified in caucasians during the black plague because carriers may have been conferred a selective advantage.

Whatever your background may be, you're probably carrying a few of these type of genes, even if you're not expressing them. The goal of this kind of research is gene therapy generally or practical application like growing cloned drugs in bacterial vectors with thermophyles.

Shari
12-16-2007, 07:29 PM
Wow, this whole article terrifyingly falls into line with the book I'm reading by Michael Crichton, NEXT. I encourage anyone who is into semi-believable science fiction to go out and get it. Freaky shit.

Whimsi
12-17-2007, 12:22 AM
Why isn't this in the lolcats thread?!

lmao

Tsa`ah
12-17-2007, 10:08 AM
Why isn't this in the lolcats thread?!

lmao

Because cancer cats, much like dead puppies, aren't much fun?

Stanley Burrell
12-17-2007, 10:41 AM
Wow, this whole article terrifyingly falls into line with the book I'm reading by Michael Crichton, NEXT. I encourage anyone who is into semi-believable science fiction to go out and get it. Freaky shit.

Orangutans swearing at you in Dutch and French make phosphorescent kittens look cuddly :D

Whimsi
12-18-2007, 02:05 AM
Because cancer cats, much like dead puppies, aren't much fun?

Next you'll be telling me that dead seal and dead baby jokes aren't funny!! Jesus.


Q. Why do babies have a soft spot in their heads?
A. So you can pick them up five at a time.

Alfster
12-18-2007, 08:07 PM
My favorite response:


I think that the only good thing about this is that the cat may not get hit by a car at night and killed. The bad stuff could go on for pages - first off, they are they way they are for many reasons they have great night vision and with not "glowing" in the dark they are safe from harm's way. There are millions of animals of ALL kinds killed every day by humans for there own self pride of somehow feeling of power by killing and making them suffer or by having to many that just cant find home so they are sent to a "better place". I also think that our time could be spent on, say, finding a cure for cancer that we can use! We have people dying also, lets put our brains to making it so the war is over and our families are not out there dying . Theres a lot more this world could use other than cloning animals. Even if i thought it was right, the animals NEVER COME OUT THE SAME.

Ashley Washington (Sent Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:10 PM)