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Drew2
12-14-2007, 03:38 AM
It was good. I highly recommend it. Not for skiddish people, however.

Fallen
12-14-2007, 03:48 AM
Does the dog die?

Stanley Burrell
12-14-2007, 04:11 AM
WILL SMITH AND TOMMY LEE JONES KILL INNOCENT ALIENS.

Skeeter
12-14-2007, 08:46 AM
Does the dog die?

Awesome reference. A+++

Drew2
12-14-2007, 05:35 PM
I don't get it.

Fallen
12-14-2007, 05:38 PM
I am told the dog does die. Not sure if I want to see the movie now.

pastryman
12-14-2007, 05:42 PM
I dont even know wtf the movie is about from the trailers.

Ilvane
12-14-2007, 05:48 PM
Vampires!

Mighty Nikkisaurus
12-14-2007, 06:21 PM
I really wanna go see this but zombie movies scare the crap out of me.. so we'll see. I've read a lot of great reviews though, I heard it's on par with 28 Days Later as far as being a creative view of a doomsday scenario.

Hips
12-14-2007, 06:56 PM
I really wanna go see this but zombie movies scare the crap out of me.. so we'll see. I've read a lot of great reviews though, I heard it's on par with 28 Days Later as far as being a creative view of a doomsday scenario.

This has nothing to do with the thread, but OMG LMAO at your sig!

Skeeter
12-14-2007, 06:57 PM
Awesome reference. A+++

Possibly I was giving Fallen too much credit. I thought he was referencing a classic discussion where a horror movie was being discussed and there was tons of outrage over an animal being tortured and killed but the OP had no concerns with the multitueds of actual people being tortured and killed.

ViridianAsp
12-14-2007, 06:58 PM
I love Zombie Movies...I loved 28 days later and 28 weeks later. I especially love post-apocalyptic anything. So going to see it :heart:

Mighty Nikkisaurus
12-14-2007, 07:08 PM
I love Zombie Movies...I loved 28 days later and 28 weeks later. I especially love post-apocalyptic anything. So going to see it :heart:

I loved them too which is why I'm probably going to see this one.

They just scare the fuck out of me and I can't sleep for a few days!

Fallen
12-14-2007, 09:39 PM
Possibly I was giving Fallen too much credit. I thought he was referencing a classic discussion where a horror movie was being discussed and there was tons of outrage over an animal being tortured and killed but the OP had no concerns with the multitueds of actual people being tortured and killed.

Well, yeah. Way too much credit. I don't care how many humans you kill, just don't kill off any animals!

Lord Nelek
12-14-2007, 09:44 PM
I went and saw this movie tonight. I really enjoyed it and it was different than I expected. The only other thing I'll say is that it's a typical Will smith movie, but it was good.

DCSL
12-14-2007, 10:39 PM
I saw it earlier. Some points..

It's almost completely different from the novella (for the small percentage of those who knew it was from a book and have read it) so don't go in expecting a faithful adaptation.

Will Smith was excellent. He lost it rather convincingly at several points. The writers made his character frustratingly obtuse a couple of times but hey, everyone's got flaws.

The vampires were weird. Doughy. They looked almost straight out of a Resident Evil cut scene 'cept without the rotted bits.

The movie was mostly silent. Very little in the way of background music for the majority of the time. It really captured the drastic change in one of the busiest cities in the world.

Oh! And Will Smith managed NOT to say his usual catch phrase of "Aww hell no!" Good job, Mr. Smith.

Overall, I give it a B+. There were things I'd change but it was still enjoyable.

Sweets
12-14-2007, 10:43 PM
Crap. I read the book and saw Omega Man. I'll just have to let go of that to enjoy.

Eoghain
12-14-2007, 11:03 PM
and it was not bad. I don't normally like Wil Smith, so the idea of an hour and a half of just him seemed more terrifying than the zombies. But really, it wasn't bad. And they were zombies, not vampires. They ate flesh. I think. Then again, they were baited with blood. Maybe they were vampires. Let's just say they were like that dude in Underworld who was both, but way less cool.

That shit in the end where God all of a sudden enters the scene was a total surprise.

The funny thing was that most of the people were there to see the 5 minute Batman movie prologue in IMAX.

Sthrockmorton
12-15-2007, 08:07 AM
Saw it last night, and it was good. Definitely worth the extra few bucks to see it on the big screen.

Their not zombies or vampires, but their very own species of mutated humans with very heightened sense of aggression that feed on flesh, or something like that.

Will Smith has a good performance. I started thinking about his last 3 movies and despite most people not liking him, he's a great actor (I Am Legend, Pursuit of Happiness, and Hitch). Pursuit is by far my favorite inspirational movie.

Stanley Burrell
12-15-2007, 08:11 AM
Their not zombies or vampires, but their very own species of mutated humans with very heightened sense of aggression that feed on flesh, or something like that.

http://www.the-junkyard.net/images/characters/halo/Flood_Human.jpg

..?!

Sthrockmorton
12-15-2007, 08:13 AM
haha, close

Stanley Burrell
12-15-2007, 08:20 AM
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3540/floodsmithbj1.png

..?!

.

Dammit, Methais :(

Parkbandit
12-15-2007, 09:34 AM
This has nothing to do with the thread, but OMG LMAO at your sig!


I hope there is a real story behind it.. if so, POST IT (or maybe I missed it already :( )

diethx
12-17-2007, 06:00 AM
I am told the dog does die. Not sure if I want to see the movie now.

She does, and it's heartbreaking. However, i'll the be the first to admit that i'm a wuss when it comes to scenes like that in movies. I can watch people get tortured/maimed/killed/etc., but the animals get to me. This one was extra awful because of the development of the relationship between Smith and the dog for the first half of the movie, and because of the actual events leading to and manner of death. I won't spoil it, but I will say that there was a lot of sniffling going on in the audience.

I still recommend you see the movie, though. Smith's performance was excellent, and even though I wasn't a huge fan of the ending it was definitely worth it.

Drew
12-17-2007, 06:11 AM
Why were the Zombies CGI? They looked stupid. Most of the CGI in this move looked stupid, like the overhead shot of the Mustang GT500 driving through overgrown New York, it looked terrible. I understand that shot had to be done with CGI most likely (although a composite would have been better IMO) the zombies were a total letdown. Just because we have CGI doesn't mean we have to use it people!

The zombies in 28 days later were much scarier.

diethx
12-17-2007, 06:17 AM
Why were the Zombies CGI? They looked stupid. Most of the CGI in this move looked stupid, like the overhead shot of the Mustang GT500 driving through overgrown New York, it looked terrible. I understand that shot had to be done with CGI most likely (although a composite would have been better IMO) the zombies were a total letdown. Just because we have CGI doesn't mean who have to use it people!

The zombies in 28 days later were much scarier.

Yeah, they definitely weren't the best heh. Total Resident Evil rejects.

Parkbandit
12-17-2007, 08:19 AM
I thought the movie was just ok. I agree.. the zombies looked completely fake... and what got me was the brand new, super clean cars that were used (mustang at the beginning, and the SUV at the very end). Sure, human civilization is in complete ruin on the brink of extinction, but I'm going to make sure my sled is fucking SPOTLESS!

Lianon
12-17-2007, 08:27 AM
I wouldn't really call them zombies because they weren't actually dead. They still lived on a pulse and on oxygen (the interaction between Will Smith and his pet are evidence of that). So yeah, they were supposed to be scary but they're basically humans with a severe case of rabies that are mega sensitive to sunlight. I know because my father in law is one.

Parkbandit
12-17-2007, 08:57 AM
I wouldn't really call them zombies because they weren't actually dead. They still lived on a pulse and on oxygen (the interaction between Will Smith and his pet are evidence of that). So yeah, they were supposed to be scary but they're basically humans with a severe case of rabies that are mega sensitive to sunlight. I know because my father in law is one.


Oh.. then take out the part where I said they looked fake, because after this description, now I can't tell they were computer images.

Clove
12-17-2007, 09:29 AM
I was just about to ask if anyone saw this and... is this a re-write of the Omega Man?

TheEschaton
12-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Wait, so if its nothing like the novella, how do they explain the title of the movie?

-TheE-

Lianon
12-17-2007, 10:05 AM
The title of the movie is explained in one sentence in the last 20 seconds of the movie. In my opinion, they didn't do a GREAT job of tieing everything up. It was almost like they spent too much time developing the plot and then rushed the ending.

Fallen
12-17-2007, 10:28 AM
I liked it, but the fucking dog did die.

Clove
12-17-2007, 10:30 AM
I was just about to ask if anyone saw this and... is this a re-write of the Omega Man?

Nevermind, looked it up. Apparently this deviates even further from the novella than Omega Man- but I dig Will Smith so I guess I'll try to catch it.

Celephais
12-17-2007, 10:38 AM
I won't spoil it, but I will say that there was a lot of sniffling going on in the audience.
Someone was crying audibly in my theater... bad. It was pretty brutual the way they really make you "fall in love" with the dog and then how heartless it is... I imagine anyone who's in this thread is expecting some sort of spoilers (I avoided this thread till after having seen it). Man though... brutual.

I had thought they were zombies until I started thinking about it... sunlight sensitivity is a vampire thing... they went after will smiths blood, could smell it... they had fangs... obviously they weren't 100% vampires, kind of like how resident evil they were caused by a virus. Still the closest I would say is vampire (they weren't rotting), except much more realistic in that they weren't undead (pulse/breathing).

My pet peeve with the movie was when he first administered the cure, and killed the girl, then he hit her with one of two things (IMO) adrenaline, or more virus, and if it was adrenaline, he put it in her arm, not her heart... arg.

Daniel
12-17-2007, 10:47 AM
He didn't kill her. It just didn't work. He simply sedated her more.

I thought it was an AWESOME movie. My girlfriend who is in love with dogs, hated it.

landy
12-17-2007, 10:48 AM
Is it just me or did the infected humans in this movie bear striking resemblence to the robots in I ROBOT. Maybe Will Smith employs his own awful CGI staff.

As far as the plot, I give the setup top marks, it was the finish that blew it.

weasel82
12-17-2007, 11:02 AM
Saw the movie last night...wasn't thrilled honestly. I enjoyed Will Smith's performance for the most part, dog stole the show though, as did "fred", best scene ever...hahaha.

To me, the problem with the movie is that I've seen its story over and over again more or less.

It's been mentioned about the similarities between Legend and 28 Days Later and it's very true, so I found myself somewhat underwhelmed by this movie.

I did however notice the tacked-on thoughts on guns and the existence of God, as well as, looking around my city and thinking 'holy shit...where the hell was I when they were doing these shots over the past two years.'

Drew2
12-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Lmao. "FRED!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE FRED!? HOW DID YOU GET OUT HERE? IF YOU'RE REAL YOU BETTER SAY SO RIGHT NOW!"

peam
12-17-2007, 11:31 AM
Fuck this movie.

WALK HARD

diethx
12-17-2007, 11:35 AM
Someone was crying audibly in my theater... bad. It was pretty brutual the way they really make you "fall in love" with the dog and then how heartless it is... I imagine anyone who's in this thread is expecting some sort of spoilers (I avoided this thread till after having seen it). Man though... brutual.

Yeah, my sleeve was pretty soaked through with tears. It was definitely one of if not the hardest scene i've ever had to sit through. It just made me want to go home and smother my kitties with love (and I did).

Celephais
12-17-2007, 11:36 AM
He didn't kill her. It just didn't work. He simply sedated her more.
Uh... she spazzed and then she flatlined... then he injected her with something and her pulse went back to 200bpm or whatever the "perfect pulse for zombies" was (seriously, what the fuck... 200/60/60 exactly?)


Lmao. "FRED!? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE FRED!? HOW DID YOU GET OUT HERE? IF YOU'RE REAL YOU BETTER SAY SO RIGHT NOW!"
Yeah that was pretty funny... I went with a friend who has a habit of talking to the actors, and he kept telling him to calm down and stop wasting ammo, which made it even funnier. (I don't think that friend understood he was going insane)

Oh, and WHAT THE FUCK was with the Ford/Apple commercial throughout the whole movie. At the end when they were panning out they showed that broad and ethan and perfectly centered inbetween them was a Ford logo, like... here we are, safe, sound, happy, and all because of our Ford.

Guarrin
12-17-2007, 11:51 AM
Yeah the vampires/infected looked terrible. That didn't bother me as much as the ending and how much they changed it from the novel. I'm curious why they deviated from the plot so much, especially with Anna.

Drew2
12-17-2007, 12:36 PM
I was saving that bacon...

Lianon
12-17-2007, 01:31 PM
I did enjoy all of the Bob Marley references. Legend is great.

crb
12-17-2007, 02:27 PM
It was alright, really sloppy writing though.

I'm going to call them zombies, even though they're not, technically I know.

They say these zombies are relatively stupid, no human instincts left. Smith finds a "hive" early and they're all standing there just breathing hard like mindless zombies.

Then, in many instances, the writing showed them with intelligence and problem solving skills. They tracked him to his house. The one guys dug a hole in the ceiling to let others in, that shows problem solving. They obviously had motor skills still in tact the way they did acrobatics over everything.

In every other zombie movie they lack such higher brain function, and that is necessary to the plot because otherwise the zombies would win every time. Here, it is like the writers just felt that to show whatever intelligence was necessary for the scene without any thought to consistency.

If they were as smart as they appeared, they should have been driving cars and ramming them into Smith's house.

Then, the "king zombie" was a stupid idea. This zombie yelled at smith when he made his capture. he set dogs on smith, and lead the charge into Smith's house. This again shows intelligence (or just more lazy writing/effects) because how would 1 individual zombie always be where Smith is, always attacking him, unless he was intelligently tracking him? How did this Alpha-zombie get around the city during the day to always conveniently show up? I think the writers got too excited about the idea of a "boss fight."

And yes, the CGI was shit.

Then, Mr. Smith, the dumbest smart person to hit the screen. You've fortified your windows Mr. Smith, but it isn't as if the drywall and or ceiling in your little townhouse is the least bit fortified. Why not find a more secure location to make your base? Like, hmm? The UN? Tell me there is not a bunker or a secure room with bomb proof doors somewhere in that building. Or, the city jail, or go to Rikers, islands are safe, and prisons can keep people out just as easily as in. There are numerous consulates and embassies in NY that would be more secure structures as well I'm sure. But no... lets live in the townhouse. Your security around the house was admirable, lights, explosions, but imagine if you had put the lights on your roof if you were in a standalone structure, imagine if you had thicker walls so your explosions didn't damage your own defenses?

Or, just not stay in New York, if you're some brilliant scientist your life is valuable and you shouldn't stay in such a risky place. Go to the nearest army base and hunker down in a bunker.

Then, why don't you carry a gun on you at all times? Scavenge a holster or stick it in your pocket. You should have about 4 handguns on you at all times, a shotgun, and a rifle. And why, when dozens and dozens of zombies are attacking your house do you put your gun down and THEN go look for the girl? Why did you not find any nightvision at any sporting goods stores where you found your guns?

Anyways, I give it a C, entertaining, but sloppy.

Daniel
12-17-2007, 02:36 PM
People like you suck at life.

Stanley Burrell
12-17-2007, 02:37 PM
Or, the city jail, or go to Rikers, islands are safe, and prisons can keep people out just as easily as in.

Zombie inmates are a breed of their own fucking volition. You do not want to be fighting an individual who was a serial rapist and murderer before & subsequently after the point of zombification. Bad news.

Clove
12-17-2007, 02:42 PM
Fortresses fail.

weasel82
12-17-2007, 02:55 PM
People like you suck at life.

Don't know if you watched Survivor at all, but that was said about one of the contestants...it was really fuckin' shocking to hear someone say that...wow.

Celephais
12-17-2007, 03:11 PM
crb did you pay attention at all? He was going crazy... and he said he needed to stay in NY because it was "Ground zero", blah blah blah. They said the zombies had low brain activity but the concepts that were developing in the movie was that they were beginning to figure out how to organize/learn because they were starting to have to. Besides, the fact that Robert said they were stupid does not mean that they are personally I think they showed the zombies as rather intelligent throughout the movie... the fact that they were fixated around something in the safe in the hive doesn't refute this.

The "King" zombie knew where he was because he just happened to be the king of the hive he had found, and this king had started to ignore his basic instincts (stay out of the light) and saw how smith trapped his girl, then the king set up the same snare trap (so obviously he was magically there). The king was still pissed at smith when he escaped (because as he said, "They won't stop") because smith took his girl... him finding him at the pier may have been a bit coincidence, but they were looking for him, and he had tried to lure them. Then they tracked the chick back to his house from the pier, calling forth the rest of the hive.

I'll agree that his no-nightvision and not being armed to the tooth, not fortified enough of a house etc etc was bad choices, but you gotta let that go... not only was he going insane but it was a movie, and that was his home... staying there was probably the only thing letting him hold onto any form of sanity.

Clove
12-17-2007, 03:17 PM
People like you suck at life.


Don't know if you watched Survivor at all, but that was said about one of the contestants...it was really fuckin' shocking to hear someone say that...wow.

That's just the Authoritarianist talking....

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=663965&postcount=16

Lianon
12-17-2007, 03:41 PM
I didn't even follow the whole "king zombie" idea. I think it's debatable whether the zombie that bashes down the glass at the end, the zombie that roars at him when he takes the zombie out of the hive, and the zombie that unleashes the dogs are the same zombie. I certainly wasn't able to follow that. Considering all of them looked extremely similar, how could you?

Mighty Nikkisaurus
12-17-2007, 03:44 PM
I hope there is a real story behind it.. if so, POST IT (or maybe I missed it already :( )

There is, but I'm really not allowed to say without getting one of my friends in pretty big trouble. :(

weasel82
12-17-2007, 03:53 PM
crb did you pay attention at all? He was going crazy... and he said he needed to stay in NY because it was "Ground zero", blah blah blah. They said the zombies had low brain activity but the concepts that were developing in the movie was that they were beginning to figure out how to organize/learn because they were starting to have to. Besides, the fact that Robert said they were stupid does not mean that they are personally I think they showed the zombies as rather intelligent throughout the movie... the fact that they were fixated around something in the safe in the hive doesn't refute this.

The "King" zombie knew where he was because he just happened to be the king of the hive he had found, and this king had started to ignore his basic instincts (stay out of the light) and saw how smith trapped his girl, then the king set up the same snare trap (so obviously he was magically "there"), the king was still pissed at smith when he escaped (because as he said, "They won't stop") because smith took his girl... him finding him at the peer may have been a bit coincidence, but they were looking for him. Then they tracked her back to his house from the peer, calling forth the rest of the hive.

I'll agree that his no-nightvision and not being armed to the tooth, not foritified enough of a house etc etc was bad choices, but you gotta let that go... not only was he going insane but it was a movie, and that was his home... staying there was probably the only thing letting him hold onto any form of sanity.

Any notice how the king 'zombie' odd resembled John Malkovich? Facial expressions and such...hehehe

Daniel
12-17-2007, 04:46 PM
That's just the Authoritarianist talking....

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=663965&postcount=16

If this were my country I'd have you beaten.

Flurbins
12-21-2007, 11:41 PM
Okay, did he set the trap when he got caught, or did the boss zombie set the trap for him? That was never resolved.

The CGI looked horrible.

Since when can a vaccine cure a virus?

Jenisi
12-22-2007, 12:57 AM
This is in the future, they figured out how to cure cancer, who knows what medical advances will be made in the future. Anyway, it was the first "zombie" like film I mildly enjoyed. I walked out on 28 days later, that movie was more of a comedy due to the terrible acting. I jumped and screamed, all that lame girly stuff. Didn't cry but said "aww" and pouted when the dog died. I was suprised the dog died so early in the film. I like how when the chick showed up she didn't feel the need to explain who she was or anything and just started talking about the breakfast. Overall, worth seeing, but I wouldn't buy the dvd.

Sthrockmorton
12-22-2007, 01:38 AM
Okay, did he set the trap when he got caught, or did the boss zombie set the trap for him? That was never resolved.
Zombie set it up. That's why he was waiting there with the two dog zombies.
Also, note Celephais:
The "King" zombie knew where he was because he just happened to be the king of the hive he had found, and this king had started to ignore his basic instincts (stay out of the light) and saw how smith trapped his girl, then the king set up the same snare trap (so obviously he was magically there). The king was still pissed at smith when he escaped (because as he said, "They won't stop") because smith took his girl... him finding him at the pier may have been a bit coincidence, but they were looking for him, and he had tried to lure them. Then they tracked the chick back to his house from the pier, calling forth the rest of the hive.

Flurbins
12-22-2007, 01:40 AM
Zombie set it up. That's why he was waiting there with the two dog zombies.

Thought so, but then I thought it could have been him going crazy and screwing himself. I think I was trying to read too much into him losing it.

Sthrockmorton
12-22-2007, 01:43 AM
Thought so, but then I thought it could have been him going crazy and screwing himself. I think I was trying to read too much into him losing it.

Yeah, I have to give props to Will Smith. He did a pretty genuine job of looking/acting like he was loosing his mind. At least I believed it.

Whimsi
12-22-2007, 02:13 AM
Man, I just read the story. It was in a book with Will Smith on the cover and that german shepherd so I thought I was getting the book length story as depicted in the actual movie. Nope. Was the original short story and it bears absolutely no resemblance to what I have read here about the movie. Which is good I guess since we are going tomorrow to see it. It's vampires in the short story but I like zombies better anyway :P

On the plus side, bunch of other short stories included in the book that are turning out to be halfway decent.

War Angel
12-22-2007, 01:03 PM
Good movie overall.
Things I pondered:

*At the beginning of the movie, if he wanted deer so badly, why did he drive past 50 or so of them, and then chase down 1 single deer?

*Who put Fred there?

*Why didn't the dark seeker who set the dogs loose come out when the sun had ebbed and kill Smith himself?

*When he stashes the chick and the kid, and tells them "Stay here until daylight", if its a fortified safe spot, how the hell will she know when it's daylight? (I didn't notice a watch on her wrist)

*After Smith got attacked and bit by the dark seeker, why didnt he turn, like the dog, if he was only immune to the airborne strain?

*Since the virus doesn't survive in cold weather, wouldn't Alaska be a better option? (For anyone, not Smith's character in general)

*How'd lions get into NYC if they sealed off the city?

*Where were the bodies of the billions of people killed outright by the virus?

*Why were the dark seekers depicted as rabidly stupid one minute, then organized and clear thinking the next?

*How'd the chick survive with a kid in tow if she didn't know she had to cover her tracks to stay "safe" from being found. Did she just have a "duh" moment, was she incredibly lucky, or did God fend off the dark seekers for the last 2-3 years she was avoiding them?

Just things I thought about. Also, about the fangs ... when the boss seeker yelled, he had normal teeth, not fangs.
The end.

Daniel
12-22-2007, 01:19 PM
Good movie overall.
Things I pondered:

*At the beginning of the movie, if he wanted deer so badly, why did he drive past 50 or so of them, and then chase down 1 single deer?



Because the rest of them got away.




*Who put Fred there?


It was apart of the trap...



*Why didn't the dark seeker who set the dogs loose come out when the sun had ebbed and kill Smith himself?


No idea.




*When he stashes the chick and the kid, and tells them "Stay here until daylight", if its a fortified safe spot, how the hell will she know when it's daylight? (I didn't notice a watch on her wrist)



Body clock. You can tell how much time passes.



*After Smith got attacked and bit by the dark seeker, why didnt he turn, like the dog, if he was only immune to the airborne strain?


Some people were immune period.



*Since the virus doesn't survive in cold weather, wouldn't Alaska be a better option? (For anyone, not Smith's character in general)



Ever taken that overland route to Alaska?



*How'd lions get into NYC if they sealed off the city?


Zoo?



*Where were the bodies of the billions of people killed outright by the virus?


Eaten



*Why were the dark seekers depicted as rabidly stupid one minute, then organized and clear thinking the next?



Where specifically are you talking about?




*How'd the chick survive with a kid in tow if she didn't know she had to cover her tracks to stay "safe" from being found. Did she just have a "duh" moment, was she incredibly lucky, or did God fend off the dark seekers for the last 2-3 years she was avoiding them?


She probably wasn't living in a sealed off city like Will Smith was.

Sean of the Thread
12-22-2007, 01:32 PM
enough fucking spoilers rofl

War Angel
12-22-2007, 01:49 PM
Because the rest of them got away.
He drove alongside several deer, and could've easily picked on off, even with the handicap of driving.



It was apart of the trap...
That would imply that he knew Smith would react that way, which he couldn't possibly have expected. It was a random moment of craziness on Smith's part.




Body clock. You can tell how much time passes
Ok, I'll accept that.




Some people were immune period
Again, ok. Question answered.




Ever taken that overland route to Alaska?
No?


Zoo?
Who let them loose? Fred?



Eaten
Gross, but question answered.




Where specifically are you talking about?
Stupid:
They jump onto Smith as he is falling out a window ... instant death, not very smart. They fail to detect Smith in the same room as they are, even though they have a heightened sense of smell? They run into oncoming vehicles. They can't find Anna and the kid, because they are hiding under a dresser, but they tracked them back to the house? Fighting each other to climb a wall first implying a huge amount of agression.




She probably wasn't living in a sealed off city like Will Smith was. I missed how she got into the sealed off city, I also missed how she got out of the sealed off city, to head to Vermont.

War Angel
12-22-2007, 01:50 PM
enough fucking spoilers rofl
Oops, sorry, posting and didnt see your request!

Sean of the Thread
12-22-2007, 01:59 PM
lol it's all good as soon as I got a scent of a spoiler I quickly skipped whatever posts had them.

I was just busting balls.

Katt
12-22-2007, 02:22 PM
I didn't think it was that bad but I was definatly expecting better.

Darkthanion
12-26-2007, 02:10 PM
As far as immunity:

He explained in 1 part of the movie that Canines were immune to the airborn strain only but still were at risk from bites. While He and some other humans were immune to all strains.


Why didnt the guy come out after him with the dogs?

There was a newspaper article on a wall stating that infected dogs came out at dusk. They apparently werent affected as adversely by ambient light so were able to.. Even though the sun was setting there was still enough light out to hurt the guy. By the time he was able to come out without risk, Will was allready long gone.

How did the lions get there?

Escaped from the NYC Zoo im assuming, its very possible. A tiger just within the last few days escaped from the SF Zoo and mauled/killed 3 people. And that was a well fed one with no real motivation.

One part that got me, was you have this anal retentive scientist (i've backed up all my research on 6 redundant drives, Stacked on top of each other? if something catastrophic happened they'd all be wiped, noob) Who totally disregarded that the zombie came out into sunlight after him because he ganked his mate.

Some of your other points were just crappy writing/plot or oversight on the writers part (who the hell proofreads this stuff). Overall i liked the movie though.

Looking forward to Hancock. It looks funny as hell.

DCSL
12-26-2007, 02:25 PM
The only reason I called them vampires is because that's what they were in the novella. But yeah, Sam and Fred totally stole the movie, although Will Smith was as good as the writers let him be.

Sthrockmorton
12-26-2007, 02:28 PM
As far as immunity:
One part that got me, was you have this anal retentive scientist (i've backed up all my research on 6 redundant drives, Stacked on top of each other? if something catastrophic happened they'd all be wiped, noob)
He probably had them backed up somewhere else. But with less than a minute to act, he had to make sure what was vital survived - the cure. So he gave it to them and killed the zombies.


Who totally disregarded that the zombie came out into sunlight after him because he ganked his mate.

After 3 years of never observing behavior anything like that, I think it would be very easy to blow it off as ignoring basic survival instincts. Especially with the state of mind he was in, having not interacted with another intelligent human in 1000 days.

Katt
12-26-2007, 02:48 PM
I thought that he did noticed. He did make comments in his research. Said that it seemed the monsters were becoming dumber or not paying attention to basic survival skills or he said the zombie might have come out because lack of food was driving them to act crazy.

Celephais
12-26-2007, 03:47 PM
I thought that he did noticed. He did make comments in his research. Said that it seemed the monsters were becoming dumber or not paying attention to basic survival skills or he said the zombie might have come out because lack of food was driving them to act crazy.
I was under the impression he noticed too, except he attributed it to lack of food forcing them to be more intelligent. A basic principle behind intelligence is being able to ignore your instincts/survival skills when you understand a means to an end (think Gom Jabbar for you Dunies).

As for their great sense of smell.. that just seemed to be for blood. At least that's a convenient excuse (like sharks!) that and they weren't really "looking" for him when he went into the hive, so they probably weren't paying as close of attention.

Numbers
12-26-2007, 08:57 PM
I didn't like it that much. Needed more zombie action. Was way too predictable. It was obvious the dog was going to die (it was practically given away in the trailer). I would have liked to have seen more scenes of the collapse of civilization.

Lysander
12-26-2007, 09:09 PM
Great movie, but I'm really expecting the brand new Conan movie in summer 08.

GS4Khistian
12-28-2007, 09:04 PM
Ugh.. This remake pretty much blew ass besides Will Smiths acting. The entire story was fucked up and turned into some happy ending God will save us bullshit. I highly recommend the Original I Am Legend instead starring Vincent Price instead of this dumbed down trash.

For now we'll have to settle for Sweeney Todd and wait for Cloverfield.

Latrinsorm
12-29-2007, 07:47 PM
I loved it.

I don't get how Will Smith was alone in NYC though. He said 1% of humans were naturally immune, right? That's over 10,000 people in Manhattan, and I'm pretty sure the switch from "somewhat civilized" to "zombie apocalypse" took at least a little while: how else would he have had time to install all those shutter things? I don't think of it so much as an inconsistency as I'm intrigued by the scenario that would result in one and only one survivor in the city.

Did anyone else notice the stuff he sprayed in front of his door the first time he came home? My first thought was that it was some kind of Vitamin D solution to simulate sunlight, but he later seemed to indicate that it was UV radiation specifically that caused the sundeath. If it was something that hurt them, why didn't he just have some kind of vaporizer rigged with that as a failsafe?

Bobmuhthol
12-29-2007, 07:53 PM
<<I highly recommend the Original I Am Legend instead starring Vincent Price instead of this dumbed down trash.>>

I don't know where the hell you saw an original "I Am Legend," since it's a remake of The Omega Man, and I don't know where the hell you saw Vincent Price, since he never acted in any movies with either title.

Drew2
12-29-2007, 08:32 PM
I loved it.

I don't get how Will Smith was alone in NYC though. He said 1% of humans were naturally immune, right? That's over 10,000 people in Manhattan, and I'm pretty sure the switch from "somewhat civilized" to "zombie apocalypse" took at least a little while: how else would he have had time to install all those shutter things? I don't think of it so much as an inconsistency as I'm intrigued by the scenario that would result in one and only one survivor in the city.

Did anyone else notice the stuff he sprayed in front of his door the first time he came home? My first thought was that it was some kind of Vitamin D solution to simulate sunlight, but he later seemed to indicate that it was UV radiation specifically that caused the sundeath. If it was something that hurt them, why didn't he just have some kind of vaporizer rigged with that as a failsafe?


He said that 1% were immune, but almost all of them were eaten by the 4% that survived but weren't immune. Also I'm pretty sure the stuff he sprayed in front of his door was like something flamable so he could prevent that from being used as an entrance (by lighting it)? I don't know.

Sean of the Thread
12-29-2007, 08:48 PM
<<I highly recommend the Original I Am Legend instead starring Vincent Price instead of this dumbed down trash.>>

I don't know where the hell you saw an original "I Am Legend," since it's a remake of The Omega Man, and I don't know where the hell you saw Vincent Price, since he never acted in any movies with either title.

The Last Man on Earth (Italian title: L'Ultimo uomo della Terra) is a 1964 Italian horror/science fiction film based upon the Richard Matheson novel I Am Legend.

Synopsis

In the year 1968, every day is the same for Dr. Robert Morgan (Vincent Price). He wakes up, gathers his weapons and then literally goes vampire hunting. Morgan lives in a world where everyone else has been infected by a new disease that turns them into vampire-like creatures. They cannot stand sunlight, fear mirrors, and are repelled by garlic. They would kill Morgan if they could, but fortunately, they are weak and not too smart. At night, Morgan locks himself inside his house listening to jazz on the hi-fi, and in the morning, he kills as many vampires as he can, destroying the bodies.

Morgan's psychological disposition is a significant element in the movie, and his struggles with despair imbue the character with intensity and gravitas. He is an ordinary, flawed man trying to deal with an extraordinary catastrophe. It also explores the loneliness of being by himself, excitement and hope of finding others, and disappointment over still finding himself alone.

Flashbacks are used to explain how his daughter succumbed to the plague, and then his wife. Instead of taking his wife to the same public burn pit used to dispose of his daughter's corpse, Morgan buried his wife without the knowledge of the authorities. Morgan becomes aware of the need to kill the plague victims with a wooden stake when his wife returns to his home and attacks.

Much of the story is devoted to Morgan's struggles to understand the plague that has infected everyone around him, and the movie details the progress of his discoveries. He offers scientific basis for such symptoms as aversion to garlic, craving of fresh blood, and resistance to bullets but vulnerability to stakes and sunlight. The aversion to mirrors and crosses is classified as psychological. This represents one of the first attempts in popular culture to explain vampirism scientifically, something that has become more common in vampire stories since. Morgan hypothesizes that he is immune to the bacteria because he was bitten by an infected vampire bat when he was stationed in Panama, which introduced diluted plague into his blood.

One day, a dog appears in the neighborhood. Morgan chases after the dog but does not catch it. Some time later, the dog appears wounded at Morgan's doorstep. Morgan takes the dog into his home and treats its wounds, looking forward to enjoying the company of his new companion. He quickly discovers that it too has become infected with the plague. Morgan is later seen burying the dog, which he has impaled with a wooden stake.

While out on his daily activities, Morgan spots a woman in the distance. Ruth is terrified of Morgan at first sight, and runs from him. Morgan convinces her to return to his home. (In an apparent conflict with this earlier scene, Ruth later comments that he dragged her back to his house). Morgan is suspicious of her true nature. Ruth becomes ill when Morgan waves garlic in her face, but claims that she has a weak stomach.

Morgan's suspicion that Ruth is infected is confirmed when he discovers her attempting to inject herself with a combination of blood and vaccine that holds the disease at bay. Ruth then tells him that she is part of a group of people like her--infected but under treatment--and was sent to spy on Morgan. The vaccine allows the people to function normally with the drug in the bloodstream, but once it wears off, the virus begins to take over the body again. Ruth explains that her people know more about the disease than Morgan, have developed the vaccine, and are planning to rebuild society as they destroy the remaining vampires.

Ruth's people are afraid of Morgan because they do not know who he is or how he is able to stay immune to the disease without vaccination. To them, he is a super-human which is why he is a legend among them, he is shrouded in mystery. He is dangerous to them as he is the only normal human that is not affected by the disease. They do not know how he is able to walk in the daylight and kill the vampires at no danger of getting sick.

While Ruth is unconscious, Morgan transfuses his own blood into Ruth. She is immediately cured, and Morgan sees hope that he and Ruth can cure the rest of her people. However, now that night has fallen, Ruth's people attack. Ruth initially draws a gun on Morgan, but surrenders it to him. Morgan takes the gun and flees his home while the attackers slay the vampires gathered around Morgan's home.

Ruth's people spot Morgan and chase him. He exchanges gunfire with them, and picks up tear gas grenades from an armory along the way. While the tear gas slows his pursuers somewhat, Morgan is wounded by gunfire and retreats into a church. Despite Ruth's protests to let Morgan live, he is finally impaled on the altar by a spear thrown by one of Ruth's people. With his dying breaths, Morgan makes a dramatic exit with the quote, "Freaks! You're all Freaks!" and declares that he was the last true man on earth.

Bobmuhthol
12-29-2007, 08:53 PM
Thanks!

Sean of the Thread
12-29-2007, 08:56 PM
I'm going to check it out I guess. Found it on YouTube.

Gelston
12-29-2007, 09:37 PM
<<I highly recommend the Original I Am Legend instead starring Vincent Price instead of this dumbed down trash.>>

I don't know where the hell you saw an original "I Am Legend," since it's a remake of The Omega Man, and I don't know where the hell you saw Vincent Price, since he never acted in any movies with either title.

The Last Man on Earth.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/09/Lastmanearth.jpg/200px-Lastmanearth.jpg
I Am Legend is the third making of the Novella.