Grad Students: Queer Temporalities?

[Necromancer]

Long shot, but has anyone on these boards read anything about Temporality as it pertains to Queer Theory or cultural theory in general? I'm looking for suggestions for sources. I've got the latest issue of GLQ and Winnubust's "Queering Freedom". I've read some Halperstam and History of Sexuality Pt. 1.

Anything else that people can suggest?

[Gan]

Let the queer jokes begin!

Read: :wtf: are you talking about?

Nvmd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Theory

[Gan]

The term "queer theory" was introduced in 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990), with Eve Sedgwick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Sedgwick), Judith Butler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler), and Diana Fuss (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diana_Fuss&action=edit) (all largely following the work of Michel Foucault) being among its foundational proponents. The existence of queer language and terms is believed to have evolved from the imposing of structures and labels from an external mainstream culture and created by the 'queer society' as a means of communication.
So what exactly is queer language? Is that like pig-latin with a lisp?
If you backspin george michael records will there be hidden meanings revealed? Curious minds want to know.
:thinking:

[Eoghain]

Oh gods, Gender studies. I think we should be our own race already. I mean, we whine just like every other minority, and we're discriminated against. NAAGP here we come.

[Some Rogue]

Worf pic stat!

[Gan]

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/3strangedays/warf.gif
^

[Necromancer]

There's no such thing as "queer language", I'm not sure where you got that quote from.

Queer Theory also isn't the same thing as LGBT Studies or Feminist Studies. It's a discipline that grew alongside Poststructuralism. The quick and dirty of queer theory is that it is a poststructuralist discipline that focuses on "the body" and "bodies" as sites of oppression and resistance.

Queer Temporality is a new fad in the discipline- talking about the production and deployment of 'time' and linear evolutive progression as a tool of oppressive social production. I have a high tolerance for BS, but even I read that stuff and think, "Oh shut up". Unfortunately, I need to know more about the state of research on the subject so I can try to argue that they're barking up the wrong tree, and that we should be intervening at the site of continuity and not temporality.

[Latrinsorm]

Time is RACIST.

Space is ok though (so long as it's hyperbolic).

[Gan]

There's no such thing as "queer language", I'm not sure where you got that quote from.
Last paragraph in that section.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Theory#Overview



Queer Theory also isn't the same thing as LGBT Studies or Feminist Studies. It's a discipline that grew alongside Poststructuralism. The quick and dirty of queer theory is that it is a poststructuralist discipline that focuses on "the body" and "bodies" as sites of oppression and resistance.

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Queer theory is a field of Gender Studies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Studies) that emerged in the early 1990s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s) out of the fields of gay and lesbian studies and feminist studies. Heavily influenced by the work of Michel Foucault (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault), Jacques Derrida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida), and other deconstructionists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction), queer theory builds both upon the feminist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminist) challenge to the idea that gender is part of the essential self and upon gay/lesbian studies' close examination of the socially constructed nature of sexual acts and identities. Whereas gay/lesbian studies focused its inquiries into "natural" and "unnatural" behavior with respect homosexual behavior, queer theory expands its focus to encompass any kind of sexual activity or identity that falls into normative and deviant categories.


Looks like Wikipedia is in need of a correction?

Anyways, there's a lot of sources at the bottom of the page that might help you. Otherwise, you're barking up the wrong tree here.
:whistle:

[Necromancer]

Yeah, Wikii is in need of a bit of correction. Queer Theory isn't a field of Gender Theory (In fact, Gender/Feminist Theorists have been VERY critical of Queer Theory for being androcentric)

Heh interestingly enough, in "Queering Freedom", the author argues precisely that time is racist. Or, rather, it's a modality of phallicized whiteness (which encompasses racism).

None of the links there are very useful, but thanks for pointing them out. It's very frustrating tracking this crap down when you have no one to go to.

[Daniel]

You must have the most worthless major ever.

[Necromancer]

Either that, or you're completely unaware of the state of cultural studies and social theory in the US Academies.

[Katt]

Hmmmm, this might be a good link for you.

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/programs.html

[Hulkein]

This thread is queer as a 3 dollar bill.

[Necromancer]

Amen. But not very helpful.

[Eoghain]

fapfapfapfapfap

[Eoghain]

The only thing gayer than this thread is Michiko and Jesae talking about dresses. :D

[Snapp]

:weird:

[Necromancer]

damnit homo, go look up Queer Temporalities and give me articles with summaries attached. DO MY BIDDING.

(sigh I'm rereading a section of a book that is only partially related at this point- fuck queer temporalities for the day)

[Shari]

The only thing gayer than this thread is Michiko and Jesae talking about dresses. :D

Yanno, Nikki sent me to this thread with only a "OMG did you see what Eoghain posted in this thread?" And I was thinking something really dramatic...and I get this.

I am sad. :(

[Sean of the Thread]

You must have the most worthless major ever.

Sanskrit?

[Tea & Strumpets]

Man, I laughed so hard when I read "Queer Theory".

[Necromancer]

read a book.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Yanno, Nikki sent me to this thread with only a "OMG did you see what Eoghain posted in this thread?" And I was thinking something really dramatic...and I get this.

I am sad. :(

You still LOLed Bitch.

<3

[Some Rogue]

read a book.


I looked in Penthouse and Playboy but they had nothing about queers in there.

[Celephais]

So what's the acceptable term now? I don't understand how queer is the acceptable term:
1 a: worthless (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/worthless), counterfeit (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/counterfeit) <queer money> b: questionable (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/questionable), suspicious (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/suspicious)
2 a: differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal b (1): eccentric (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/eccentric), unconventional (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/unconventional) (2): mildly insane : touched (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/touched) c: absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/obsessed) d (1)often disparaging : homosexual (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual) (2)sometimes offensive : gay (http://www.meriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay) 4b
3: not quite well

[Warriorbird]

I don't mind alternate views of stuff when they're based on things like facts. The referred to concept is egregious bullshit. The particular irony is that some of the folks who came up with the basic concepts of time that govern our lives were arguably quite non straight.

[Necromancer]

You really have no concept what queer theory is, do you?

Nor the discussions going on around queer temporalities and the intersections of neoliberalism and temporality. Your comment makes that quite clear.

And "Queer Studies" isn't the same thing as gay and lesbian studies. It is not the study of gay-identified, lesbian-identified, bisexual-identified people. Nor is it the study of all "non straight" people. It's an analytical lens that posits bodies as produced through social forces and attempts to locate resistance to those social forces in the site of the body (hence the queer theory obsession with performance theory).

The irony is that to assume "Queer Theory" means "All about the gays" is to deploy the term in precisely the opposite way in which it was intended to be used. Queer, according to queer theory, is the identity which is not one. It has no fixed definitions or boundaries, its future is not foreclosed, and although one can speak of it but never describe the "it" in question. Queer Theorists jumped on the concept and attempt to use that to trace the ways in which identities are unstable, the ways in which the raced; sexed; classed; sexualized; etc body requires continuous work and elaborate social schemes not only to be read but to maintain themselves. It then attempts to destabilize the continuity of the subject to reveal just how socially constructed these "natural" bodies are. If "Queer" has no inherent meaning, the idea goes, then what other identities actually have no inherent meaning?

Whether the discipline has been successful or not in all of its goals is up for debate, but believe it or not, we owe a lot of our popular conceptions of sexuality and the body to queer theory. It has trickled down amazingly well considering most of the major writers have been from philosophy (and hence are incomprehensible to most people- including most students)

[CrystalTears]

They couldn't call it something else?

OMG, why am I here? Some Rogue, I hate you so much.

[Hulkein]

They couldn't call it something else?

OMG, why am I here? Some Rogue, I hate you so much.

'Pointless' was considered but lost out in a tight vote at the last queer convention.

[Necromancer]

Maybe pointless for you, but like all disciplines it's vitally important in its context.

(Yeah, the fact that I said that and believe it tells me I really do need to become a professor)