View Full Version : New Author to Finish the Wheel of Time
Warriorbird
12-12-2007, 12:33 PM
At first I was disturbed when I read this...but I've read Elantris, the book Brandon Sanderson wrote, and it is pretty damn good. Now I'm kind of excited as I presume he'll be working from Jordan's notes.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/books/12/12/books.finalfantasy.ap/index.html
AestheticDeath
12-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Holy crap, I was just thinking about this last night. Was wondering if something like this would happen. Crazy.
Warriorbird
12-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Yeah. Like I said...Sanderson is a pretty damn good writer. Though...given that he's not obsessed with writing about large groups of people travelling different places at different times...the last book might be like only 400 pages.
:laughs:
They should just recommend everyone forget about the shit-pile that is The Wheel of Time series and start reading George R. R. Martin's Song of Ice And Fire.
Eoghain
12-12-2007, 02:01 PM
I just want the series to be done. I've been fucking following this shit storm since high school.
Warriorbird
12-12-2007, 02:01 PM
Heh...I dig Martin...but he does move at a snail's pace too.
Skeeter
12-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah I mean is 1 book a year too much to ask? I'd even take one book every other year.
Androidpk
12-12-2007, 02:45 PM
I'm a douchebag, I just found last week that Robert Jordan had died.
Warriorbird
12-12-2007, 02:46 PM
Heh, well. He'd been sick for a while.
Heh...I dig Martin...but he does move at a snail's pace too.
He's gotta be the "new Tolkien" though. There's just no one that reaches his level. Jordan broke the mold with Wheel of Time but Martin took what Jordan opened up and brought it to it's fruition.
Numbers
12-12-2007, 10:07 PM
If he wants to make it authentic, he'll have at least 200+ pages of the book be devoted to describing what the women are wearing, explaining all their sneers and smirks and snickers mean, and at least 100+ pages of Nynaeve tugging her braid.
If he wants to make it authentic.
Drew2
12-12-2007, 10:15 PM
LOL. Sad, but funny. And true.
thefarmer
12-13-2007, 12:05 AM
Ha.
I talked with two publisher reps that work for the same house that Jordan used and they both told me that he had finished the book and they were just waiting for legal.
Shows how much they knew.
AestheticDeath
12-13-2007, 12:07 AM
Don't forget rape/sodomy/mindless sex/inserting things between Kahlans legs. Or some other main female character.
I was surprised how many times he did that.
Don't forget rape/sodomy/mindless sex/inserting things between Kahlans legs.
Aren't you thinking of Terry Goodkind?
AestheticDeath
12-13-2007, 12:38 AM
Doh! Yeah, those two guys have such similar writing styles Its easy to confuse.
Agreed, they both should have wrapped things up a long time ago. That's the difference between GRRM and them, especially Goodkind. You can tell GRRM had a big universe in mind when he started. Goodkind seems to have been surprised by the success of the novel and worked to expand later.
landy
12-13-2007, 07:29 AM
I'm also a fan of Song of Fire and Ice, but fuck me if it's not one of the most depressing series ever. Everyone you care about is brought down, maybe that's what gives it the edge. That being said I think no author of our time can compare to what Jordan created, sorry, he is the single greatest fantasy author possibly of all time.
I'm also a fan of Song of Fire and Ice, but fuck me if it's not one of the most depressing series ever. Everyone you care about is brought down, maybe that's what gives it the edge. That being said I think no author of our time can compare to what Jordan created, sorry, he is the single greatest fantasy author possibly of all time.
True.
I really hope he doesn't go with the cookie-cutter ending of having the Starks somehow raise themselves to glory.
Personally, I'm betting on a Greyjoy revival.
WE DO NOT SOW!
I'm also a fan of Song of Fire and Ice, but fuck me if it's not one of the most depressing series ever. Everyone you care about is brought down, maybe that's what gives it the edge. That being said I think no author of our time can compare to what Jordan created, sorry, he is the single greatest fantasy author possibly of all time.
Stephen King likes to do the same thing. Spend a quarter of the book building up a character, getting the reader to invest in said character, then killing said character off halfway through the book. :lol:
That being said, I started the WoT first book way back in '91. I got sick of the onerous and overinflated detail that got lost over time between publishings of new books to the series after about 5 or 6 books into it.
I liked the series initially, now it just sucks.
I like Martin's series, but he needs to step up the pace as well.
Tsa`ah
12-13-2007, 11:18 AM
Ha.
I talked with two publisher reps that work for the same house that Jordan used and they both told me that he had finished the book and they were just waiting for legal.
Shows how much they knew.
Tor/Forge would be the publishing house.
Jordan had remarked in his blog on his cousin's fan site that he was near completion, sans the editing and potential re-writes. It was also noted that he divulged the final story to those closest to him in the event he could not complete it.
Sanderson will have plenty to work with, if not much to do.
Sthrockmorton
12-13-2007, 01:37 PM
Agreed, they both should have wrapped things up a long time ago. That's the difference between GRRM and them, especially Goodkind. You can tell GRRM had a big universe in mind when he started. Goodkind seems to have been surprised by the success of the novel and worked to expand later.
Goodkind's first two books were complete by themselves. Books 3-11 are where it really becomes a series and wasn't completed at the end of each novel, which leads me to believe you're right, after his first few books he was surprised at the success.
Also, he did a pretty good job of getting them all released (11 books in 13 years):
Wizard's First Rule (1994)
Stone of Tears (1995)
Blood of the Fold (1996)
Temple of the Winds (1997)
Soul of the Fire (1999)
Faith of the Fallen (2000)
The Pillars of Creation (2001)
Naked Empire (2003)
Chainfire (2005)
Phantom (2006)
Confessor (2007)
There's 11 of them? Are you shitting me? I stopped halfway through the fourth one.
True.
I really hope he doesn't go with the cookie-cutter ending of having the Starks somehow raise themselves to glory.
Personally, I'm betting on a Greyjoy revival.
WE DO NOT SOW!
Daenerys (and her dragons) and zombified Benjen Stark (leader of the Others) duel it out for ultimate control of Westeros. Duh.
thefarmer
12-14-2007, 02:47 AM
Tor/Forge would be the publishing house.
Jordan had remarked in his blog on his cousin's fan site that he was near completion, sans the editing and potential re-writes. It was also noted that he divulged the final story to those closest to him in the event he could not complete it.
Sanderson will have plenty to work with, if not much to do.
Yup. So who knows maybe Sanderson'll just be editing out the stupid shit that Jordan came to be known for and it'll be nice and short(er).
AestheticDeath
12-14-2007, 02:48 AM
He should leave the 'stupid shit' in though or it won't be the same.
My actual prediction for Song of Ice and Fire is probably something along the lines of Daenerys and Jon Snow getting together and marrying (since Targaryens marry their kin), that would be a pretty tidy ending.
Tsa`ah
12-14-2007, 03:22 AM
Yup. So who knows maybe Sanderson'll just be editing out the stupid shit that Jordan came to be known for and it'll be nice and short(er).
This won't happen ... Sanderson will have zero impact on the editing process.
Jordan's editor for TWOT has been his wife from the first book in the series and will be for the last book of the series. (Well technically she wasn't his wife for the first two books I believe).
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