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Gan
12-10-2007, 10:54 AM
DARDENNE PRAIRIE, Missouri (AP) -- Waterford Crystal Drive is one of those suburban streets that seem so new as to have no history at all. But the suicide of a teenage girl -- and allegations she had been tormented by a neighbor over the Internet -- have brought a reaction that is old, almost tribal, in its nature.

Residents of the middle-class subdivision have turned against the neighbor, Lori Drew, and her family, demanding the Drews move out. In interviews, they have warned darkly that someone might be tempted to "take matters into their own hands."

"It's like they used to do in the 1700s and 1800s. If you wronged a community, you were basically shunned. That's basically what happened to her," said Trever Buckles, a 40-year-old who lives next door to the Drews.

Drew became an outcast after she participated in a hoax in which a fictional teenager by the name of "Josh Evans" exchanged online messages with 13-year-old Megan Meier. Megan received cruel messages from Josh that apparently drove her to hang herself in her closet in 2006.

Through her lawyer, Drew, a mother of two in her 40s, has denied saying hurtful things to the girl over the Internet, and prosecutors have said they found no grounds for charges against the woman. Nevertheless, the community reaction has been vengeful and the pressure on the Drews intense.

More than 100 residents gathered in front of their home on a recent evening, holding candles and reciting stories about Megan.

Last December, after neighbors learned of the Internet hoax, someone threw a brick through a window in the Drew home. A few weeks ago, someone made a prank call to police reporting that there had been a shooting inside the Drews' house, prompting squad cars to arrive with sirens flashing.

Someone recently obtained the password to change the Drews' outgoing cell phone recording, and replaced it with a disturbing message. Police would not detail the content.

Clients have fled from Drew's home-based advertising business, so she had to close it. Neighbors have not seen Drew outside her home in weeks.

Death threats and ugly insults have been hurled at Drew over the Internet, where she has been portrayed as a monster who should go to prison, lose custody of her children, or worse. Her name and address have been posted online, and a Web site with satellite images of the home said the Drews should "rot in hell."

Some of the threats "really freak me out," Buckles said while standing on his front porch after dark Tuesday night. As he spoke, a car slowed and stopped in front of Drew's home. It sat there idling for a few long minutes, then sped away. Buckles said it is a common occurrence.

"I just really hope that no one comes out here and does something insane," Buckles said. "If they do, I hope they get the right house."

Sheriff's Lt. David Tiefenbrunn said patrols have been stepped up around Drew's house. "There could be individuals out there with a vigilante-type attitude that might want to take revenge," he said.

The Drews -- Lori, husband Curt and two children -- live in a one-story ranch. An older man at the house who described himself only as a relative said Lori Drew would not comment. He would not say if the family planned to move.

Ron and Tina Meier's home is four houses away from the Drews. The sidewalk is curved, so the neighbors can't see each other from their front doors. The breach between the once-friendly families seems beyond repair.

"I think that what they have done is so despicable, that I think it absolutely disgusts people," Tina Meier said. "I can't take one ounce of energy worrying about who does not like Lori Drew or who hates Lori Drew. I could not care less."

Just a year ago, Waterford Crystal Drive was the kind of quiet suburban street where joggers waved hello while kids played in their front yards. Lately the road has been choked with TV news trucks, and neighbors hustle inside to avoid questions.

The row of brick-facade homes, with basketball nets and American flags out front, was carved out of the woods and pastures in the mid-1990s. Between rooftops, residents can see the neon signs of the strip mall restaurants near a highway that carries commuters some 35 miles to jobs in downtown St. Louis.

The subdivision and those surrounding it have street names evoking the good life, from Quaint Cottage Drive to Country Squire Circle.

The Drews used to fit in just fine, said John McIntyre, who described Lori Drew as an intensely social woman who never hesitated to stop and talk. She and Curt came over to McIntyre's home to look at his glassed-in porch because they were thinking of adding their own, he said.

McIntyre fondly remembered another guest -- Megan. She came across the street to baby-sit McIntyre's 4-year-old daughter Genna and arrived with a clipboard and notes, determined to do the job right. He said the activity was good for Megan, who suffered from depression for years.
"She was a good kid," McIntyre said.

Megan became friends with the Drews' young daughter and the girls remained close for years, according to a report provided by prosecutors. But the girls had a falling-out in 2006.

A teenage employee of Drew's named Ashley said she created the "Josh" account on MySpace after a brainstorming session with Drew and her daughter, according to a prosecutor's report. Drew said the girls approached her with the idea, and she told them only to send polite messages to Megan.

Ashley sent Megan many of the messages from "Josh," and Lori Drew was aware of them, prosecutors said.

On October 16, 2006, there was a heated online exchange between Megan and Ashley, who was posing as Josh. A few other MySpace users joined in, calling Megan names. It ended when "Josh" said the world would be better off without Megan.

Tina Meier said her daughter went to her room, crying and upset. About 20 minutes later, Megan was found hanging from a belt tied around her neck.

Drew's attorney Jim Briscoe said on NBC on Tuesday that Drew "absolutely, 100 percent" had nothing to do with the negative comments posted online about Megan and wasn't aware of them until after the girl took her life.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/wayoflife/12/07/suicide.shunning.ap/index.html
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Interesting if the article describes the community's reaction accurately.

Cant say I have any sympathy for the Drew family though.

Xaerve
12-10-2007, 11:02 AM
I saw this on TV a while back. The article above, from what the TV showed, is a little too sided with the Drews. They did have some evidence that the mother was deeply involved. Alas, the intertubes are hard to regulate.

radamanthys
12-10-2007, 11:29 AM
I know people like that (I came from what is, essentially, pleasantville/weeds/wisteria lane). Having the community go against someone like that is the only form of self-regulation possible in a place like that. It helps keep the community together, in a way.

Anyone see that Malcolm in the Middle episode where the nieighborhood throws the block party every year that they go on vacation, just to celebrate them leaving? The whole community was united in their hatred against them. At the end, people changed their minds and decided to like the family, but then the neighbors all started fighting. Kinda like the US and the USSR with WWII. Greater evil and all that.

Kyra231
12-10-2007, 11:44 AM
Any adult stupid enough to give the okay to fuck with a kids head(particularly one they knew had emotional/mental issues) deserves to be shunned.

If she were smart she'd sell her house & fucking move, her kid has to be going through a special kind of hell in that area.

~K.

Sweets
12-10-2007, 11:52 AM
Being a Mom, it's hard not to grab up a pitchfork and join in. Adults that act like a spoiled and cruel teenagers really need to get a good old fashion whooping. It just goes to show you growing up does not mean growing wiser.

Gan
12-10-2007, 11:59 AM
Clients have fled from Drew's home-based advertising business, so she had to close it.

I especially liked this part.

Latrinsorm
12-10-2007, 12:13 PM
"I just really hope that no one comes out here and does something insane," Buckles said. "If they do, I hope they get the right house."

That was my favorite.

In some respects it's good to see more evidence that disregard for "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't just extend to rich black guys, but still. Disheartening.

thefarmer
12-10-2007, 12:17 PM
"Innocent until proven guilty" only works if they've possibly commited an action that violates a law.

I think it has less bearing when it comes to more moral issues like this has become.

Gan
12-10-2007, 12:19 PM
The HOA should sue the Drews for devaluing the property on that block just by living there.

B2
12-10-2007, 12:31 PM
I had a roommate who dated a guy who was best friends with the Columbine boys.

He and his family were run out of town afterward because no one believed he didn't have anything to do with it. Not just immediate family, either... aunts and uncles. Everyone had to move.

I'm sure the community shunning here is similar. Like that random male relative? He's no more at fault than the neighbors they interviewed. But he's likely being scorned because he never told that chick not to tell suicidal girls to kill themselves.

Sure, give them the cold shoulder if you want. But at some point, with all the pranks, these people aren't acting any better.

BigWorm
12-10-2007, 01:02 PM
Dardenne Prairie is about 10 mins from where I live. This has been all over local TV and newspaper. If what the Drews have been accused of is true, then this story is super fucked up. Only thing is, even if they did do what is alleged, by all accounts what happened is very wrong, but not criminal. The most ironic part is that the first use of the new law enacted to criminalize such behavior is probably going to be against someone harassing the Drews on-line.

Skeeter
12-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Throw a brick through a window for me.

Methais
12-10-2007, 02:41 PM
Did anyone else think of Warclaidhm after reading that article?

TheEschaton
12-10-2007, 02:50 PM
Wow, that's fucking medieval.

Drew2
12-10-2007, 02:59 PM
I have pretty mixed feelings about this. Everyone knows I'm pretty heartless, so it's no surprise when I say that ultimately it's no one's fault that the girl committed suicide. By definition it's something you do to yourself. Sure she was unstable and probably shouldn't have been pushed like that, but her parents could have monitored her internet usage more carefully, given her better medication, whatever. You can't point the fingers at people who did something that probably a few other thousand people in the US have done.

Mighty Nikkisaurus
12-10-2007, 03:27 PM
I can see shunning the woman. I think she's a dumb bitch for her involvement, however, I can't agree with death threats and harassment. I think being totally ignored and outcast is harsh enough punishment to show her she fucked up big time. Beyond that, I have to agree with Becca that people are getting down to her level and that's pretty hypocritical.

AestheticDeath
12-10-2007, 09:03 PM
I have pretty mixed feelings about this. Everyone knows I'm pretty heartless, so it's no surprise when I say that ultimately it's no one's fault that the girl committed suicide. By definition it's something you do to yourself. Sure she was unstable and probably shouldn't have been pushed like that, but her parents could have monitored her internet usage more carefully, given her better medication, whatever. You can't point the fingers at people who did something that probably a few other thousand people in the US have done.


If what they did is true, its murder as far as I am concerned.

What if someone put a gun to your loved ones head, and said if you didn't hang yourself then they would kill that person? Would you then say that they are not at fault for your death?

If a guy with a heart problem needed medicine every X amount of time to keep it going, and you played hide and seek with his medicine, and he dies because he can't find it. You just knowingly killed the guy.

Or it's like saying "I pulled the trigger, sure. But I didn't kill him, the bullet did!"

It's all cause and effect, every action has a reaction. And they seriously fucked up. They should pay for it.

DCSL
12-10-2007, 09:59 PM
I can't say as I would like to patronize her advertising business. I wouldn't go so far as to do anything active against them, just go with the whole ignore thing. Especially as the whole thing isn't criminal. Just... incredibly immature, self-centered, and thoughtless on the part of most people involved.

Flurbins
12-11-2007, 12:39 AM
If what they did is true, its murder as far as I am concerned.

What if someone put a gun to your loved ones head, and said if you didn't hang yourself then they would kill that person? Would you then say that they are not at fault for your death?

If a guy with a heart problem needed medicine every X amount of time to keep it going, and you played hide and seek with his medicine, and he dies because he can't find it. You just knowingly killed the guy.

Or it's like saying "I pulled the trigger, sure. But I didn't kill him, the bullet did!"

It's all cause and effect, every action has a reaction. And they seriously fucked up. They should pay for it.


I'm sorry, but that's one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever read. They didn't break any laws, all they fucked up about was the morality of picking on some kid, and opening up a shitstorm of freedom of speech vs. internet.

Stanley Burrell
12-11-2007, 06:19 AM
The suburbs are just fucking awful.

Kyra231
12-11-2007, 07:30 AM
Just the fact that she hasn't left yet shows she's about as retarded/juvenile as she has acted in the past.

Can you imagine what her daughter is going through with the entire neighborhood & probably a good portion of the school/town thinking the way they do?

Apparently the Drew woman can't get her shit together long enough to think of someone other than herself, but she's such a great role model for her kid anyway what's one more shining example?

~K.

Tsa`ah
12-11-2007, 09:26 AM
Personally, I'd buy a flat of bricks and have them dropped in my front yard (were I a neighbor). Then I'd put a sign out saying "Free to good home" .. and then cross out the "good".

Three cheers for the neighborhood.