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Stunseed
12-03-2007, 08:42 PM
Besides the captain obvious answer of mithril/enruned, which boxes can NOT be opened using 125? I know of Glyphs, are there any others, if so can someone post their messaging?

GuildRat
12-03-2007, 08:45 PM
Besides the captain obvious answer of mithril/enruned, which boxes can NOT be opened using 125? I know of Glyphs, are there any others, if so can someone post their messaging?

That's all of them.

Nilandia
12-03-2007, 08:50 PM
Isn't there another, where a sprung trap like a needle or jaws also repels magic?

Gretchen

GuildRat
12-03-2007, 09:00 PM
nopers...everything can be cloud blasted except for glyphed, enruned and mithril

Stunseed
12-03-2007, 09:02 PM
What's the actual messaging for glyphs again?

---> Playing dumb.

GuildRat
12-03-2007, 09:05 PM
I think it reflects the lightning towards a random person in the room...but is the question what the trap looks like when you disarm?...or what it looks like if you try to blast it?

Stunseed
12-03-2007, 09:06 PM
< but is the question what the trap looks like when you disarm?... >

Yes.

GuildRat
12-03-2007, 09:09 PM
something like small spiderweb like glyphs on the lockplate....or something of that nature...maybe there's a rogue with a log or that has recently disarmed one with the actual messaging.

GuildRat
12-03-2007, 09:11 PM
"You notice some spiderweb-like scratches on the lock plate"...there ya go...was in DrunkinDurfin's script for auto picking.

Stunseed
12-06-2007, 11:11 PM
Can't get Rift traps, either?

Fallen
12-06-2007, 11:14 PM
If you bungle a trap, as in you attempt to disarm it and fail so it triggers, you can no longer attempt to open it via Call Lightning. It will reflect back at you.

Also, manually disarming a glyph trap STILL isn't enough to open the box via Call Lightning.

Stunseed
12-06-2007, 11:18 PM
I 416'd the box, obviously opening the Rift. At this point, it's no longer 125-able?

Fallen
12-06-2007, 11:19 PM
A glyph trap on a box is in NO WAY able to be opened via 125. Fresh, disarmed, or otherwise.

Stunseed
12-06-2007, 11:20 PM
I was referring to the Rift boxes.

Fallen
12-06-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm sorry, what is the difference between a rift box and a glyph box? Is a Rift Trap a type of sphere trap? If so, i've NEVER had a sphere trap reflect upon me, though I never tried to disarm one.

Stunseed
12-06-2007, 11:22 PM
Heh, one is DETECTED.

I 416'd these like a dumbass. Nvm.

Gan
12-06-2007, 11:29 PM
http://www.geocities.com/bladenight95/Traps.html

Old, but some useful info.

http://www.ladytaylir.netfirms.com/trap.html


Looks more current.

BigWorm
12-07-2007, 12:52 PM
Glyph = rift.

They are the same trap. You see a glyph when detecting/disarming/etc., but if you set it off, the effect is that you are put into a rift.

Arcane Symbols helps a lot in making these easier to disarm. I think I have 35ish ranks and I've rarely seen Ithzir boxes with glyphs bigger than -300 or so, whereas most of the other traps I've seen can be up to -480. I think its probably a combination of them being easier difficulty on average and my ranks in Arcane Symbols lowering the difficulty.

Stunseed
12-07-2007, 01:03 PM
That's not exactly the way I was going for it.

I'm trying to save myself from having to run back from OTF every 5-7 minutes from boxes, so I'm trying the 125 method. For mithril/enruned/glyphs I have a locksmith pick them, but on a grind night I can get 30-40 boxes without qualms. My lockers fill quicker than I can promise the locksmith e-lovin ( hah ) for the favor.

Fin.