Worried

[Jenisi]

Well today at work, I was having weird beats with my heart.. on and off.. I kinda just ignored it.. Then I got home and it kept happening and happening.. I'm not sure how to describe it.. but it's like my heart it taking extra time for my beats or whatever.. anyone my mom used to be a nurse and she listened to my heart and told me it sounds like I might have a murmur so i'm kinda like worried right now :(

heart mumurs are common go to your doctor

[Edaarin]

Heart murmur. It's a symptom for anxiety attacks, I had an irregular heartbeat a few weeks ago. It'll go away once you de-stress.

[SpunGirl]

Go get a body wrap and a scrub.

-K

[GSLeloo]

I don't know if you should worry or not.. I find at times my heart will like.. it's like it skips a beat or something and you can feel it's not normal and then it goes back to normal and just leaves you feeling a bit jumpy. It's the same thing with when I stand and get all dizzy, it passes and I don't think it's something to worry about.

[Ravenstorm]

Don't panic.

A very large percentage of people have irregular heart beats. The thing is, most don't ever know it.

Many people will at some point complain that their heart is 'skipping a beat' or beating out of step. Or something similar. The most common cause of it is called PVC: premature ventricular contraction. It's totally harmless.

I had a major episode of that earlier this year actually and it totally freaked me out. The thing is though that it was a side effect of a high blood pressure problem that was starting.

So, I'll recommend this:

Calm down. See if it continues. Like I said, most people never notice their heart beating irregularly (so claims my cardiologist). If it continues - especially if it is actually uncomfortable (like mine was) - go to the doctor. You'll want an ECG and a blood pressure check. They'll take it from there.

Just don't panic and wait a day to see if it subsides on its own. Chances are it will.

If, however, you experience any other symptom aside form the feeling of an irregular heart beat, make an appointment soon just to be on the safe side.

Raven

[Halfsilver]

Wuss.

[GSLeloo]

Was that aimed at Jenisi, Halfsilver? If so she's not being a wuss, she's being cautious and you shouldn't be so mean.

[Halfsilver]

Yeah, it was aimed at her.

Suck it up, Jenisi.

[GSLeloo]

It can be a serious problem. It can be signs of other heart problems. So why not be a little kinder? You're just being a jerk right now.

[Halfsilver]

I know :smilegrin:

All the little jabs at my girlfriend and signatures on this board piss me off.

I'm returning the favor.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Halfsilver]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
Go get a body wrap and a scrub.

-K


That or a nice big helping of dong.

[GSLeloo]

If they piss you off then why not go somewhere else? You don't have to read anything if it upsets you. If she had a serious health problem it's better she acts than just dismisses it.

[Halfsilver]

LoL don't give me that self-righteous, trying to help bullshit. Not one of you know her enough to say half the shit that is said. She doesn't have a 'serious health problem' and as I said before she's smaller than like 80 percent of the people on these boards.

I'm here because it's fun arguing with these bastards.

anymore questions?

[SpunGirl]

Aw, the jabs at your girlfriend upset you? Poor baby bastard. I used to think you'd be better of re-evaluating a relationship with someone who damages your credibility by forcing you to defend her idiotic actions.

Then I realized you're exactly like her.

See "Here" for details. I can't believe you're actually shocked that people don't like her. She's no different than Sean, or Bob, or Klaive, or any of the other people that are made reference to from time to time on these boards. But Sean, Bob, and Klaive don't have a spineless shithead to come here and start making nasty remarks in legitimate threads because they're upset at what was said about them.

Suck it up, crybaby.

-K

[Halfsilver]

LOL, see thats why it's fun here.

No, I won't 'reevaluate' my relationship with my girlfriend because of a BBS.

Yeah, the comments piss me off...but it's balanced out by the fun I have pissing off you and others who don't like me.

[Jolena]

Wow..I'm officially disappointed and disgusted with you Grays.. even if you dont' like what someone does to you or your girlfriend..sinking to that level and doing what you did here today honestly makes you no better. I thought you had more pride than that. Guess not.

[SpunGirl]

So you come here basically to read things that piss you off and to piss others off.

What a sad, sad life you must lead.

Evaluate is a word. "Re-" is an acceptable prefix for that word. Dumbshit.

-K

[Halfsilver]

Yeah, I'm sorry to those like you, Jolena, whom I have respect for.

It just gets to a point, where, after leaving for days, weeks at a time and coming back and seeing such endearing stuff posted about myself and mine, that I get completely fed up and feel the need to respond in kind.

that's all.

[Halfsilver]

Originally posted by SpunGirl
So you come here basically to read things that piss you off and to piss others off.

What a sad, sad life you must lead.

Evaluate is a word. "Re-" is an acceptable prefix for that word. Dumbshit.

-K

Assumptions are what indicate that a poster is a 'dumbshit'

I'm here all of 15 - 20 minutes every three or so days.

and from that and what I post, you can assume how my life is?

ROFL

too funny.

[Jolena]

I understand the need to respond.. however, look at it like this Grays.. if you are this upset over what they say..why for the love of God do you continue to read it? You know they will say things.. you know they have sigs with insults in them regarding you and Atheana.. and yet you continue to come here. If you are going to do that.. at least be the better person and don't react like you do.. honestly.. it makes you look bad. And I know you arent that bad. I honestly do.

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
LOL, see thats why it's fun here.

Yeah, the comments piss me off...but it's balanced out by the fun I have pissing off you and others who don't like me.

Actually, that was the basis of my interpretation of your life.

You said it, not me.

-K

[Halfsilver]

<<I'm here all of 15 - 20 minutes every three or so days.

and from that and what I post, you can assume how my life is?>>

and that was my response. Is it really that difficult to understand?

anyways. I think I've graced the happy PC family with my honored and welcome presence enough for tonight.

good night, all.

[CrystalTears]

Grays, could you at least wait to defend yourself when something is said worth defending? No one has even mentioned you or her in a while, least of all in this thread. Let's not turn yet another thread into something about you two... please?

To stay on topic, when I was about four or five, I had a heart murmur. I was carrying around a heart monitor for quite a while just to make sure it wasn't anything serious. It certainly wasn't stress related, it just started happening. Eventually my heart rate became stable and normal, however when I did get excitable or upset it would start up again for a few years after that. My mother was usually careful about not having exposed to stressful situations if she could help it.

Just for ease of mind, have a doctor check you anyway. Even if it is something as simple as stress and will go away shortly, any heart condition, as small as it may be, shouldn't go overlooked. I'm sure there is nothing to worry about, but it's always best to be sure. Good luck with it. :)

[Latrinsorm]

Does anyone remember that show Titus? And that one episode where Titus was trying to hide something and had his weird friend convinced that Papa Titus has a heart problem? That was a good episode. Too bad they canceled that show.

I'd start listening to Van Morrison. That should groove you right back to normal heartbeat land.

[JustMe]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
I know :smilegrin:

All the little jabs at my girlfriend and signatures on this board piss me off.

I'm returning the favor.

[Edited on 12-8-2003 by Halfsilver]

You just look like a jackass. You and your "sweetheart" of a girlfriend belong together. For the sake of man-kind I hope neither of you can reproduce.

Your girlfriend is smaller than about 10-15% of the women on these boards. You should really take a look at the pictures and height/weight charts again.

And to stay on topic... Jenisi, stress will do that to you but you should go to your doctor anyway and get a check up just to be on the safe side. Good luck!

[SpunGirl]

<3 Van Morrison

I walked down the aisle to "These are the days."

-K

[Betheny]

That wouldn't be a heart murmur... jesus. A heart murmur is something detected by a doctor, not by you feeling weirdness.

Heart palpitations, however, are what you are experiencing. I don't think you need to go to the doctor, I think you need to lay off the caffeine and stimulants and de-stress and kill some angst.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
LOL, see thats why it's fun here.

No, I won't 'reevaluate' my relationship with my girlfriend because of a BBS.

Yeah, the comments piss me off...but it's balanced out by the fun I have pissing off you and others who don't like me.

You always fucking bitch about derailed topics, now you do this.

You dumb ass, why don't you pull your head out of your girlfriend's three foot wide belly button and stop being such a stupid ass pansy hypocrite.

[Jenisi]

I just got worried, as my mom says, your not supposed to feel your heart, if you do, there could be a problem. I haven't felt anything since last night, I was just doing my homework and it happend once, so I switched positions and it kept happening, so I stood up, and it wouldn't stop. It kept happening for a good half an hour, but after I slept I haven't felt a thing. It could be stress considering all the problems I've had lately, and the christmas rush, and my job, and work etc. But I work out everday and that's supposed to be my "stress releavier" If I spelled that right. And let's try and stay on topic, if you want your own thread again Grays, be my guest.

[Betheny]

Did you have a lot of caffeine or stimulants like ephedra?

[Warriorbird]

I've experienced something similar before, myself. Going to see a doctor would probably be pretty good for your piece of mind, however, and just in case there is a problem.

When I experienced it it was the result of guarana juice, ephedra, and a nasty bout of drinking and sleep deprivation.

[Jenisi]

Nope, I don't do caffine, I only drink water usually, but I did have a diet soda insted of water from the machine b/c it was out.. but I highly doubt that was the reason. And no, no ephedra or anything close to it.

[Betheny]

You may be allergic or just have adverse reactions to phenylalanine.

[Caramia]

Of all the naiive comments, especially the reference to 80% of us being fatter than someone else -- you don't have to be overweight to have heart problems. It can be a contributing factor, but it's not a given that it creates heart problems. So let's not make ignorant comments that have nothing to do with the primary concern, hmm, please?

Most likely, the "anxiety" that you feel is a panic reaction, and your body pumping adrenalin into your bloodstream. The important thing is to remain calm and go see a doctor to rule out anything major, keeping it mind it's probably nothing.

[Weedmage Princess]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
I'm here all of 15 - 20 minutes every three or so days.

and from that and what I post, you can assume how my life is?

ROFL

too funny.

NO...but from what your GIRLFRIEND would tell us about you two...things in game and in your REAL LIFE, things that probably should have been left unsaid...and the way you guys went about handling them? Uh YEAH it's REAL EASY to make a judgement call on what type of people you two are.

Example 1: Those credit collectors still calling her and harassing her over what she said were your bills? Yeah, she mentioned that here (WHY???)

Example 2: She still calling teachers evil for not helping her land jobs when she displays irresponsibility by not attending school because "she has x amount of sick days left?" Yeah, she said that too.

If your girlfriend knew how to keep her mouth shut, you two wouldn't have the problems here that you have. But she didn't. And here you are taking stupid little pot shots every chance you get..and ADMITTING that it bugs you..CONGRATULATIONS!!! YOU JUST PAINTED A BIG OL' BULLSEYE ON YOUR BACK. Your idiotic little insults are fueling the fire, and ensuring much, much more hostility...which is something you CLAIMED you wanted to be done with. NICE GOING!! :thumbsup:

Now THAT is TOO FUNNY :lol:

**edited to add- Unless she's lost quite a bit of weight recently, from the pics she's posted here that I've seen and on her site...she is NOT...I repeat..NOT smaller than 80% of the women here. Hell, she's bigger than what I was the day I have birth to my son. So, take off the rose colored glasses or lay off whatever it is you're smoking, wake up and smell the friggin coffee. Uhm, unless you didn't mean the women and meant the men.

[Edited on 12-9-2003 by Weedmage Princess]

[Halfsilver]

Originally posted by Maimara
You may be allergic or just have adverse reactions to phenylalanine.

wrong.

That's called PKU, or phenylketonuria.
Phenylketonurics don't have heart murmurs. I know this from experience.
If a person has PKU, which is a genetic trait, and consumes too much of the amino acid Phenylalanine, then the myelin sheath covering all nerve bundles in the body begin to deteriorate. That causes twitching, painful joints, and if the person allows it to go too far, seizures. Look it up.

Anyways, for the last fucking time, I'll respond to this.

Weedmage, are you telling me...that it's fine and good for people to take what you call 'pot shots' at me, but for me to respond in kind is some kind of unforgivable sin? Right, I'll stop. Just wait a few minutes.


Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
she is NOT...I repeat..NOT smaller than 80% of the women here. [Edited on 12-9-2003 by Weedmage Princess]

Yes, she is. :)

- D



[Edited on 12-9-2003 by Halfsilver]

[Weedmage Princess]

What I'm saying is, Scarecrow..that it was starting to die down without you stirring the pot again out of nowhere (like you did in this thread) ..which is what you SAID you wanted.

But hey, do what you want to. You're the one who's going to get screwed in the end because what you don't realize is...while you're thinking what you're doing is really upsetting people (refer to quote of yours below)


Originally posted by Halfsilver
Yeah, the comments piss me off ...but it's balanced out by the fun I have pissing off you and others who don't like me.

...you're wrong. Maybe one or two people really care. I'm pretty certain most people really don't give two craps about what you say)..and enjoy seeing that it bothers you and her so much (which you've admitted...damn how THICK are you???) So at the end of the day, you're fueling the fire...they're going to retaliate...you and her are going to be upset...you're gonna do something stupid (like this) and no one cares. Who wins there?

I thought you'd be bright enough to grasp that.

I will say this though...if you feel the need to retaliate...wait til someone atleast does/says something to you, then deal with them. Don't be a total dick...it can come back and bite you, yanno.

[Edited on 12-9-2003 by Weedmage Princess]

[Halfsilver]

LOL, a few of you care, dumbass...or you wouldn't respond to me.

You would think, that if so many people didn't care, than we wouldn't have two pretty decent sized threads about us.

No one cares....yet they respond...

If they don't care...why don't they STFU?

I'm not bothering anyone, yet after a week away from the boards, I see bullshit posted about me?

WTF?

Yes, they and you don't care about what I have to say. Then it's as simple as this. STFU.

thanks,

- D

[Hulkein]

I used to get that a lot Jenisi, and still feel it sometimes. I forget who said it, but it's probably a PVC, that's what I was told..

Funny thing is when I got them (Like a year or two ago I guess) it wasn't really a stressful time or anything, it was senior year in HS which was a joke in terms of stress.. Point is, I wouldn't really worry about it.

Just to make sure I'm talking about the same thing, when it happens it feels like your heart starts beating really fast and sort of takes your breath away. That's what it was like for me at least.

[Ravenstorm]

Let me try to explain a PVC...

The heart normally beats regularly.

Da-dum. Da-dum. 1-2. 3-4.

What happens with a premature ventricular contraction is that beat #3 comes early. So what you feel is...

Da-dum/Da -dum.

Beats 2 and 3 happen almost simultaneously while beats 1,2 and 4 happen normally. So it feels like it's skipping a beat where 3 should be.

Unless it happens to occur with a doctor present, or while you're hooked up to an ECG, the only real way of determining it is with a Hulter Monitor. You wear it for 24 hours and it constantly records your heart beat. When you feel your heart beating wrong, you press a button and it makes a note of just when it happened so they can look at that time specifically.

Again, millions of people get periodic PVC so it's nothing to worry about nor is it indicative of another condition. If it repeats however you should get it officially diagnosed to be certain it's merely that.

Raven

[Silleck]

Get laid, it's the ultimate cure.

[Betheny]

or make your own message boards.

please go be godly there and leave us alone

[Weedmage Princess]

Actually, I was just pointing out the flaws in your logic, Graysalin. I know you and Atheana tend to post out of anger..but that doesn't mean anytime someone posts, it's out of anger. Honestly, I don't care about either one of you. You don't see me calling you "dumbass" or getting upset.

But like I said before, do what you want. Continue posting in threads just to make trouble when no one's mentioned you. You're going to be the loser there, no one else. Enjoy :)

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Maimara
or make your own message boards.

please go be godly there and leave us alone
They did. They have like 5 whole members too!

P.S.- Graysalin needs a good ass whooping.

[Edited on 12-10-2003 by Tayre]

[Sean]

yea so uh yea um how about that jenisi? feeling any better?

[Halfsilver]

Suprise suprise.

You all are still carrying on about me, whom you have not the slightest care or interest for. :rolleyes:

Notice, how I didn't post after Daina, because I figured she was right.

- D

P.S. We have 14 members, actually Tayre...not including the grayshasnopenis you had made, that Atheana deleted. I told her to let you stay and post. ::shrug:: Would have been funny, I thought. Not really trying to go for volume, anyways. Just telling our friends about it, to see where it goes. I guess Michiko told you about it.


[Edited on 12-10-2003 by Halfsilver]

[Xcalibur]

you may be intelligent and you could be right

but in the end, your girlfriend is ugly and act as a child

And she is not small, stop your fantaisies.

happy posting on lizzie's

[Sean]

again... yea so uh yea um how about that jenisi? feeling any better?

[longshot]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
....She doesn't have a 'serious health problem' and as I said before she's smaller than like 80 percent of the people on these boards.

I'm here because it's fun arguing with these bastards.


See, this is where you're mistaken. She could have something wrong with her heart. It really has very little to do with her weight.

I understand your confused because your girlfriend looks like a manitee after Thanksgiving dinner, and her arteries are like one of those cheese-filled hot dogs they used to sell in the frozen food section. What were they called again...?

Anyways, you don't have to let your self deteriorate to a fat pile of shit who can't get a babysitting job to have a heart problem. It's just not a prerequisite.

Anyways, Jen, I think it doesn't sound too serious, but next time you have a checkup you might mention it. They would probably run some test by making you were one of those boxes that monitors you for a day. My mom had the same thing. It wouldn't hurt to get it checked out sometime, but I wouldn't race to the emergency room.

[HarmNone]

Grays, please. Jenisi started this thread because she experienced an irregular heartbeat and it frightened her. I think any of us can understand why that might be frightening. This thread is not the place to take up your problems with other posters here. If that is what you wish to do, please start another thread. Do not belittle Jenisi's problem in this way. Please.

Jenisi, as others have said, it sounds as though you may be having premature beats, followed by a compensatory pause. These are probably premature ventricular beats (PVC's) which are not that uncommon. They could also be premature atrial beats (PAC's) which are less common.

The thing to do is get an appointment with your doctor to have some blood work done to be sure there is nothing amiss. It is my guess that you will come out fine. Just avoid caffeine (soft drinks like Pepsi and Coke have caffeine in them), cigarettes (I do not know if you smoke), and try to reduce your stress levels as much as possible.

Please keep us informed as to how you are doing and what you find out. :)

HarmNone is concerned about you

[Sean]

seriously folks i think we all understand where everyone is on the grays and atheana issue and we all know what they feel about you. can we please cut out the personal attacks and discuss the topic at hand assuming anyone actually remebers what it was.

that being said an update would be nice if you read this and find time jenisi. are you still feeling the same or has it improved lately?

[Betheny]

I doubt they'll even bother running a cardiac enzyme on her. Then again, when you have insurance, t hey don't laugh you out of the lobby when you walk in bleeding, haha.

[HarmNone]

I would not expect cardiac enzymes to be drawn either, Maimara. However, just a look at the electrolytes can sometimes give physicians something to go on. There are a number of electrolytes that can cause arrythmias if they get out of balance.

HarmNone

[Halfsilver]

Originally posted by longshot
those cheese-filled hot dogs they used to sell in the frozen food section. What were they called again...?



They're called Longshots.

Damn, man...you're just brimming with creativity, aren't you?

Funny thing, how you've never posted a picture of yourself, yet you freely insult others about their looks. Not limited to my girlfriend either.

What an idiot.

- D

[Betheny]

No, t hey're called cheddarwursts. :thumbsup:

[HarmNone]

Again I ask, please Grays. Not here.

HarmNone

[Halfsilver]

Why are you asking me, Harmnone?

I'm just responding.

[Betheny]

Originally posted by HarmNone
I would not expect cardiac enzymes to be drawn either, Maimara. However, just a look at the electrolytes can sometimes give physicians something to go on. There are a number of electrolytes that can cause arrythmias if they get out of balance.

HarmNone

Were i to suspect anything, I'd suspect an anemia.

Vegans are notorious for having protein-deficiency arrhythmias, and I myself have had heart palpations from lack of... my mind blanks currently. I eat a banana when I have the problem.

[HarmNone]

I understand you are responding at this point, Grays. However, it would not have started if you had not started it. You, yourself, have admitted that.

A thread started by a young person worried about their health is not the place to air our displeasure with one another. If that is what you want to do, start your own thread. It is only simple consideration I am asking. :)

HarmNone

[Halfsilver]

You're right.

So, as I did when Daina posted, asking the same thing, I'll stop. We'll see if others do the same.

Sorry, Jenisi. I hope you feel better.

[HarmNone]

Thanks, Grays. I do appreciate it. :)

I will ask that others respect the truce for Jenisi's sake.

HarmNone is trying hard here, guys

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Maimara
Vegans are notorious for having protein-deficiency arrhythmias, and I myself have had heart palpations from lack of... my mind blanks currently. I eat a banana when I have the problem.

Yup. With the banana, you are replacing potassium, which is vital to the proper functioning of the heart. It is one of the electrolytes tested in a panel 7. :)

HarmNone

[Hulkein]

Who is vegan? I might need to sponsor them, I'll eat twice as much meat as I normally would in spite of the vegan :D

[Edited on 12-10-2003 by Hulkein]

[Just Lurking]

They also can do an echocardiogram too. I have to get one every 5 years for my heart murmur, but that's because I also have mitral valve regurgitation. They want to make sure the valve isn't detiorating.

It's not a big deal except I have to take major antibiotics prior to going to the dentist.

I hope you go to your doctor and let us know when you do. He/she'll probably put your mind at rest.

*hugs*

[Neildo]

Man, I hate how every now and then (like 2-3 times a month probably) my heart will act funky and I can only take small breaths. If I take a normal breath, I can feel my lungs or ribcage or something pressing against my heart and makes me quiver in pain. It usually happens when sitting down for long periods of time or when lying down in bed. I tend to sit slouched and when lying in bed, curled up or on my side so I guess it's from all the pressure pushing down and inside my body, I dunno.

- N

[Warriorbird]

Lack of potassium.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Neildo
Man, I hate how every now and then (like 2-3 times a month probably) my heart will act funky and I can only take small breaths. If I take a normal breath, I can feel my lungs or ribcage or something pressing against my heart and makes me quiver in pain. It usually happens when sitting down for long periods of time or when lying down in bed. I tend to sit slouched and when lying in bed, curled up or on my side so I guess it's from all the pressure pushing down and inside my body, I dunno.

- N

That happens to me too. I think (without having any doctor's approval or medical training) it's an intercostal muscle spasm, because I strained that once and that was more or less what it felt like for a good while. Tends to die down pretty quick. Of course, I could be way off base and we each have serious cardiological conditions. But I doubt it.

Tijay, don't you have magic mod powers now? Can't you just KNOW that she's better?

[Neildo]

Lack of potassium.

Hmm, I dunno. I eat lots of foods that have potassium.. beef like crazy, fresh grapefruit juice from the backyard, peanut butter a lot, and plums from the backyard too. I guess it could be a muscle spasm. If not, Lantrinsorm, let's find some wood to knock on!

- N

[Drew2]

JUST TO CLEAR THIS UP.

I DID NOT MAKE GRAYSHASNOPENIS.

However, he doesn't. He wore yellow pants one day and his girlfriend thought it was a Twinkie and BAM.




I have no heart murmurs, btw.

[Ben]

Originally posted by Halfsilver
Wuss.

I'd like to punch this motherfucker in the chest and give him an irregular heartbeat.

[Betheny]

I missed you Ben.

[Jenisi]

I think I'll eat a banana tonight, it's still happening
like once a day at least.. It's freaky. I take vitamins
everyday though... :/

[Xcalibur]

I have some, sometimes i can have those 1-2 times per day for a weak, sometimes i feel like having an heart attack, it hurts.

I took test, i'm in perfect health.

Often i think it's my heart doing that, and it's like 5 inches lower.

Stop stressing and eat meat

[Warriorbird]

I was responding to Beth, Neil. That's a more common problem for girls. For you? No clue.