LCD TV.

[Sean of the Thread]

Creationists be damned as my plasma TV thread has now evolved into a new species known as LCD TV thread.

Just reviewed it had some good advice but wanted to get down to brass tacks.

Two of my pals have Samsungs and I gotta say so far I can't find a damn thing I don't like about them.


What do you have and how much do you want to have sex with it? Pros/cons?

[RichardCranium]

I just got my Samsung 40" 1080p LCD Friday and I couldn't really say enough good things about it. The contrast ratio is 15,000:1 and the picture is excellent. Plus it was on sale at Best Buy for $1,149. And most of the channels I watch are carried in HD so it really was a no brainer.

[Gan]

Phillips 37" LCD widescreen.

Had it for about 5 months now, love it.

Eventually going to replace every TV in the home with LCD.

PROs:
Weight
Unit takes up very little space
No heat
Viewing angle better than CRT
Aesthetics
Compatibility with other components of home theatre system.
Able to perform software upgrades on unit

Cons:
Have not found any yet.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Mine is a Samsung 61" DLP Rear Projection HDTV. I've had it for about 2 years now and it does everything I want it too.

[Sweets]

26" Samsung ( I have a small living room). My husband made his sex noise the first time he saw football in HD.

[Crazy Bard]

The 2007 Sony Bravia XBR is hand's down the best TV on the market right now. You guy's would be wasting your time looking at other's.

[Parkbandit]

I have a 62" Toshiba DLP Projection TV and a 42" Vizio Plasma.

Projection TV Pros:
Huge picture
Clear in HD

Projection TV Cons:
Not as clear in non-HD channels
Pic looks better from Couch than on floor
Can't mount it on wall


Plasma TV Pros:
Crystal Clear picture in HD
Clear picture in non-HD
Wall mountable

Plasma TV Cons:
Switching from HD to nonHD channels takes time to configure.. giving me a blue type screen for 1-2 seconds.
Channels change slowly without using Guide


I personally like the plasma picture better.

[The Ponzzz]

My dad picked up a 37" Vizio LCD HD and it is nice. The only con I saw to the LCD is the color quality. Darker colors don't look as rich. Even after playing with the settings.

But as the thread I stated the other day, plasma HDTVs blow the fuck up...

[fallenSaint]

Sporting a 32" 720p Viewsonic which I snagged on a sale at just over four bills. For the price there isnt anything better I could've picked up. The only con I really have with it is the menu structure is kinda annoying but other than that its a great TV.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

42" LCD HD Sharp Aquos, Widescreen

I really like it, was expensive as fuck but it has great viewing angles and a really good picture/color quality.

We haven't had it long enough for me to figure out many cons besides the ridiculous price tag it had, haha.

[The Ponzzz]

How much did that run you, I assume 1080p?

[Gan]

Of all the LCD's I looked at I liked the Aquious picture the best while on display; I just couldnt get past the price. :(

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

1080p is correct

It cost us close to 2 grand.. my boyfriend got a bonus from work and was eying it, he was trying to talk himself out of it and was like, 'We could go on a trip, etc etc".

Then I told him to stop being dumb and get the awesome TV :rofl:

We did get a rebate though and also didn't have to pay tax since we purchased it at the Navy exchange but it was still a doozy. Totally worth it though!

[Crazy Bard]

Just to let everyone know.
There is no cable right now that you connect to your TV to allow you to use the 1080P. The highest cable you can buy is 720P so don't think that your TV is the best because it has 1080P. By, the time they come out with that cable there's already going to be another TV can blows yours out of the water.

[Sean of the Thread]

Just to let everyone know.
There is no cable right now that you connect to your TV to allow you to use the 1080P. The highest cable you can buy is 720P so don't think that your TV is the best because it has 1080P. By, the time they come out with that cable there's already going to be another TV can blows yours out of the water.

Sure about that?

[Crazy Bard]

Positive

[Sean of the Thread]

Well break it down for a brother then. I want details.

[Gan]

Just to let everyone know.
There is no cable right now that you connect to your TV to allow you to use the 1080P. The highest cable you can buy is 720P so don't think that your TV is the best because it has 1080P. By, the time they come out with that cable there's already going to be another TV can blows yours out of the water.

Then these guys need to be sued for false advertising...

http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=3606&sku=40286

[Sean of the Thread]

Yeah I found several with the same specs as well that's why I'm asking for a break down on his "info".

[The Ponzzz]

My Time Warner HD box max connect is 1080i. Requires HDMI (only buy monster) to get it though.

[Gordd]

1080p is correct

It cost us close to 2 grand.. my boyfriend got a bonus from work and was eying it, he was trying to talk himself out of it and was like, 'We could go on a trip, etc etc".

Then I told him to stop being dumb and get the awesome TV :rofl:

We did get a rebate though and also didn't have to pay tax since we purchased it at the Navy exchange but it was still a doozy. Totally worth it though!

And another SRB bites the dust...Wish I still qualified for SRB's, damned Zone C.

[Stanley Burrell]

I rock out with my cock out with THIS:

http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/trs80/h/m1tv.jpg

I'm just waiting for i-nano culture to claim TVs as its next shrink ray victim. In fact, I'm some sort of reverse-psychological renaissance bastard for sporting my 1977 first edition portable set + phonograph. Er... Fuck y'all.

[Sean of the Thread]

Can you please shut the fuck up stainley. ffs.

[Stanley Burrell]

Can you please stop saying mean things to me?

It hurts...

The sphincter :(

[Sean of the Thread]

Well ffs man make coherent posts at the very least and you wouldn't hear shit from me.

[Stanley Burrell]

You're an ffs, ffs'er.

[Skeeter]

It's my understanding is that nobody has the capacity to broadcast in 1080p. I also believe there are no immediate plans to upgrade to 1080p broadcast capabilities. Where the 1080p comes into play is if you have a blu-ray HD player and the correct cable hook-up.

But don't expect 1080p coming from your dish/box

I bought the 1080i 720p vizio 50" plasma last year.

Picture is awesome and I've been thrilled with it.

[Sean of the Thread]

I thought there was HDDVD and Blu-ray currently that is 1080p?

[The Ponzzz]

Yes. HDDVD and BD are both 1080p. PS3 and Xbox are 1080p. Everything else is lower.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

And another SRB bites the dust...Wish I still qualified for SRB's, damned Zone C.

This wholly confuses me.

If it's about the military thing, my father is a retired Navy Chief and I'm insured under him as I'm in college full-time and under 25.. so I also get access to the navy base and the exchange and commissary. It's handy for food shopping and huge purchases because of the no-tax thing, and the fact that they accept all coupons is fantastic.

[The Ponzzz]

Here's a PRO I learned from the repair guy for my plasma for LCD:

Only two boards inside the thing, easy to repair if it breaks.

And a CON:

Break a lot. He was telling me that he repairs 20-25 a week in just the Rochester and Buffalo areas. And the warranties don't really allow replacement.

[Gan]

Here's a PRO I learned from the repair guy for my plasma for LCD:

Only two boards inside the thing, easy to repair if it breaks.

And a CON:

Break a lot. He was telling me that he repairs 20-25 a week in just the Rochester and Buffalo areas. And the warranties don't really allow replacement.

A pro for your plasma?

A pro for your LCD?

Your post is a little confusing... :(

[The Ponzzz]

"Here's a PRO I learned from the repair guy for my plasma for LCD:

This is a PRO for LCD TVs.

Same with the CON.

He told me I was his second ever plasma repair, where he does about 100 a month for LCD TVs.

[Sean of the Thread]

See that contradicts everything I know first hand. All of my friends with LCDs have never had a problem other than one with a dead pixel out of the box.

Whilst my sister has had her plasma repaired twice and now I hear about YOURS!

AHHHHHHrrggh. So confused now.

[Celephais]

My father is getting me a TV as a birthday/christmas present (normally this is way out of the range of standard presents I get, but it's not costing him anything, perk from work); A 46" 3LCD Rear Projection Sony Bravia. I can't really give the Pros/Cons, it's not too expensive a TV, and it's the right size for my living room; the key thing to me being the 1080p. Not so much for future proofing, but for displaying my laptop or desktop on the TV I want the greater resolution.

I have no need for wall mounting and I think i can sacrifice 12-18" of depth pretty easily, as I am going to need it for my reciever components anyway, so rear projection is my preference (cost per size). 3LCD doesn't have some of the DLP drawbacks, and I don't have a problem with screendoor (and the 1080p resolution and "relatively" small screen size helps there too).

[Sean]

I bought my Vizio 37" LCD last year and have 0 complaints about it.

[The Ponzzz]

See that contradicts everything I know first hand. All of my friends with LCDs have never had a problem other than one with a dead pixel out of the box.

Whilst my sister has had her plasma repaired twice and now I hear about YOURS!

AHHHHHHrrggh. So confused now.

Still, your friends are less than 1% of the LCD population. I fall under the less than 2% of plasma HDTVs having defective display boards.

[The Ponzzz]

I bought my Vizio 37" LCD last year and have 0 complaints about it.

That's what my dad's got. Nice TV.

[Sean]

Actually I do have 1 complaints about my Vizio. I've yet to find a remote code that works for it when I try and use my cable box remote as a universal. The best I can get is standard sound/channels/mute more or less but I can't get it to respond to all the menu commands or things like PiP.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Get a Harmony 1000 universal remote.

http://www.logitech.com/repository/142/jpg/789.1.0.jpg

[Sean]

I actually have a harmony i just haven't used it lately because I never keep AAA batteries stocked.

[The Ponzzz]

Yea, everything but my OnDemand and Digital Recorder functions work off my panasonic remote.

[Fallen]

I have a 62' Mitsubishi DLP and haven't a quality complaint to offer on the set. It's a big motherfucker is about the only bad thing I can say about it.

[RichardCranium]

This (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8251303&type=product&id=1169512521072) is the one I bought. I love it, and like I said before it was on sale the day after Thanksgiving for $1,149 so it was hard to pass up.

[Methais]

I got a Westinghouse 37" 1080p widescreen LCD I got on sale last year at Conn's for $900 I think it was. It was the only 1080p I could find that was under $1500-2000.

Only problems are weak remote control signal, and watching a low-def channel looks probably worse than on a regular TV. As for HD stuff though, it rocks.

[Crazy Bard]

Correct. Basically most channel's only use 720p, even HD channel's. Blu-Ray video's also use 720p so your not going to see any difference until they get up to 1080p(when they do you will be able to see a difference).

If your looking for the best picture than you should be paying more attention to the brand instead of the pixels. I've seen for myself a 46' 720p samsung showing better quality than a 1080p 46' Hamachi. Like I said before, the Sony Bravia XBR is the best LCD on the market.

[Celephais]

Correct. Basically most channel's only use 720p, even HD channel's. Blu-Ray video's also use 720p so your not going to see any difference until they get up to 1080p(when they do you will be able to see a difference).

If your looking for the best picture than you should be paying more attention to the brand instead of the pixels. I've seen for myself a 46' 720p samsung showing better quality than a 1080p 46' Hamachi. Like I said before, the Sony Bravia XBR is the best LCD on the market.
Unless you're planning on using your TV for a monitor, and then 1080p makes all the difference in the world.

I also second Gan's comment about you being dead wrong on the cables. HDMI 1.0 supported 1080p, and they have HDMI 1.3 cables that support 1440p. Depending on the pre-processors upconverts to 1080p can look much better than 720p, but this generally implies a good brand.

[Gan]

I'm still waiting to see the specifics/sourcing on the no cable 1080p claim. ;)

[Crazy Bard]

I was pretty certain there were no cable's, or maybe those are restricted to certain brand's ..I dont know. The fact of the matter is whats the point of buying one when you can't utilize it to the 1080pixels on your TV.

[Gan]

Box outputs 1080p = cable transmits 1080p = TV displays 1080p.

Am I missing something?

Is the shortfall on the box?


Also note, I've used both cheap HDMI cables and one over 100$ HDMI cable and couldnt tell the difference from a visual perspective. :whistle:

[The Ponzzz]

My Digital Cable displays everything in 1080i. Just not 1080p. If may be your area.

[The Ponzzz]

Box outputs 1080p = cable transmits 1080p = TV displays 1080p.

Am I missing something?

Nope. If your cable box is saying it displays in 1080p, and you have HDMI to display it and your TV is 1080p, it is indeed 1080p. If not, someone might need to sue their cable company.

[Methais]

Correct. Basically most channel's only use 720p, even HD channel's. Blu-Ray video's also use 720p so your not going to see any difference until they get up to 1080p(when they do you will be able to see a difference).

If your looking for the best picture than you should be paying more attention to the brand instead of the pixels. I've seen for myself a 46' 720p samsung showing better quality than a 1080p 46' Hamachi. Like I said before, the Sony Bravia XBR is the best LCD on the market.

Right. I should have mentioned I use this TV as my computer monitor and for playing 360/PS3 games. Watching TV is this thing's secondary function.

[Crazy Bard]

Box outputs 1080p = cable transmits 1080p = TV displays 1080p.

Am I missing something?

Is the shortfall on the box?


Also note, I've used both cheap HDMI cables and one over 100$ HDMI cable and couldnt tell the difference from a visual perspective. :whistle:

Your TV can't display something the channel's you watch don't support is the statement I"m trying to make.

[Celephais]

I was pretty certain there were no cable's, or maybe those are restricted to certain brand's ..I dont know. The fact of the matter is whats the point of buying one when you can't utilize it to the 1080pixels on your TV.
HDMI is a standard, HDMI supports bandwidth for up to 1080p, if it's an HDMI cable it can carry 1080p. Some noname type brands might introduce a lot of noise, but it's still 1080p.


Your TV can't display something the channel's you watch don't support is the statement I"m trying to make.
That's what upconverting is for, it's not the same quality as a 1080p that's unmolested from source to destination, but some of the better upconverters can really clean up the image and display it nicely. The TV can display what's "not there" by smoothing the image across pixels (and possible frames), it' might be incorrect, but most of the time it looks better.

[Methais]

cable's

When speaking of something in a plural sense, an apostrophe is not necessary.

[Danical]

BUUUMP.

Thinking about getting this . . .

http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC42D62U-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000HKLIVI/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=audio-video&qid=1197333662&sr=1-8

It's currently listed at $1,299.99.

Good Deal?

I was thinking about getting the WestingHouse 42 or 47.

I'm a little concerned about how many people on the SomethingAwful Forums have stated there isn't much difference between 720p and 1080p if the TV is under 50".

Can anyone back this claim up?

[Bobmuhthol]

There's a pretty goddamn huge difference between 720p and 1080p. It's 1,000,000 pixels; smaller sizes should theoretically make it seem even more drastic due to increased pixel densities, but this is only true when you're viewing something in "true" HD -- not everything is available in 1080p, so you're often looking at the same image.

[The Ponzzz]

What Alex said. Great deal on that LCD.

[Danical]

Is the contrast ratio on it too low?

I think it's something like 1200:1 native and 6000:1 dynamic (whatever that means).