Fletching 101

[landy]

Just a quick question regarding fletching, I recently hit apprentice and the learning curve is starting to get slow. Do you learn faster from using better materials, or is making a wood arrow just as good for fletching as making a faewood arrow?

[fallenSaint]

Higher up you get the slower it goes, my suggestion is dont make a full arrow if your going for mastery. Just do the first cutting steps then toss whatevers left and start again. Easiest is to setup shop in a room with a waste basket and a stick basket for fires, unlimited wood and a place to discard.

[landy]

Higher up you get the slower it goes, my suggestion is dont make a full arrow if your going for mastery. Just do the first cutting steps then toss whatevers left and start again. Easiest is to setup shop in a room with a waste basket and a stick basket for fires, unlimited wood and a place to discard.

Wow good idea.. so just do the cutting of the arrow and nocks? Never thought of that, I just use the script from the prominent archery website that makes the whole arrows

[Meges]

This is what I wrote for mastering with my wizard. Heh, has a few things that can be improved, but whatever, it worked. Also, I had it use the ;list command from Lich so the script wouldn't run away on me and I didn't want to use commands that could be seen by GMs since a lot of this was AFK, hrm.

Man, the PC really kills formatting.


Meges

#FLETCH - My fletching script

PUT stow all
WAITFOR .
PUT GET MY MISERICORD
WAITFOR .
GET-SHAFT:
put get 1 shaft from my surcoat
Match GET-GOOD You remove
Match GET-WAIT wait
rem Match GET-FULL are full
Match NOCK-GOOD-DROP are full
Match DONE Get what
MatchWait
GET-GOOD:
PUT ;list
WAITFOR Lich
GOTO CUT-SHAFT
GET-WAIT:
PAUSE 1
GOTO GET-SHAFT
GET-FULL:
ECHO
ECHO
ECHO YOU'LL NEED TO EMPTY YOUR HANDS.
ECHO ONCE YOU'VE DONE SO, RESTART SCRIPT.
ECHO
ECHO
EXIT
************************************************** ********
CUT-SHAFT:
PUT INC 506
MATCH CUT-SHAFT1 You recite
MATCH CUT-SHAFT-RECAST wait
MatchWait
CUT-SHAFT-RECAST:
PUT ;list
WAITFOR Lich
GOTO CUT-SHAFT
CUT-SHAFT1:
put cut my shaft with my misericord
Match NOCK-GOOD-DROP That was a little
Match CUT-GOOD Roundtime:
Match CUT-BAD You begin
Match CUT-WAIT wait
Match GET-SHAFT You need to be holding
Match GET-SHAFT What are you trying to
Match NOCK-GOOD-DROP That was a little
MatchWait
CUT-GOOD:
PAUSE 1
GOTO NOCK-SHAFT

CUT-BAD:
PAUSE 1
GOTO GET-SHAFT
CUT-WAIT:
PAUSE 1
GOTO CUT-SHAFT
************************************************** ********
NOCK-SHAFT:
PUT INC 506
MATCH NOCK-SHAFT1 You recite
MATCH NOCK-SHAFT-RECAST wait
MatchWait
NOCK-SHAFT-RECAST:
PUT ;list
WAITFOR Lich
GOTO NOCK-SHAFT
NOCK-SHAFT1:
PUT ;list
WAITFOR Lich
put cut nock in my shaft with my misericord
put cut nock in my shaft with my misericord
Match NOCK-GOOD You carefully cut a nock
Match NOCK-BAD might as well toss
Match NOCK-WAIT wait
Match NOCK-GOOD-DROP already had a nock
Match GET-SHAFT You need to be holding
Match GET-SHAFT What are you trying to
MatchWait
NOCK-GOOD:
GOTO NOCK-GOOD-DROP
NOCK-GOOD-DROP:
PUT PUT SHAFT
MATCH GET-SHAFT You drop a single
MATCH GET-SHAFT I could not
MATCH NOCK-GOOD-DROP-WAIT wait

MatchWait
NOCK-GOOD-DROP-WAIT:
PAUSE 1
GOTO NOCK-GOOD-DROP

NOCK-BAD:
PAUSE 1
GOTO GET-SHAFT
NOCK-WAIT:
PAUSE 1
GOTO NOCK-SHAFT
************************************************** ********
DONE:
put put misericord in my surcoat
waitfor .
echo
echo
echo LOOKS LIKE WE NEED MORE QUARTERSTAVES!
echo
echo
exit

[Shifted]

there is one out there that will stop when you're fried so you get more exp from learning how to fletch. also, at tables you can use the clean table verb to clear out all the shafts, no need to sit in a public room at all.

[landy]

there is one out there that will stop when you're fried so you get more exp from learning how to fletch. also, at tables you can use the clean table verb to clear out all the shafts, no need to sit in a public room at all.

Exactly right, thats how mine is set up right now... stop when fried, clean the table, grab more wood when you need it, etc..

Good call on just the first two steps btw... damn good call.

[Meges]

there is one out there that will stop when you're fried so you get more exp from learning how to fletch. also, at tables you can use the clean table verb to clear out all the shafts, no need to sit in a public room at all.

I think you're an idiot if you sit in public scripting anything "major" other than healing down and/or spelling up. Even the spelling up thing is annoying sometimes.


Meges

[Jayvn]

gods yes, please don't do that shit in a public room. I'm happy I did all my scrolling shit before they granted us the exp. That last rep was a bitch.

[landy]

gods yes, please don't do that shit in a public room. I'm happy I did all my scrolling shit before they granted us the exp. That last rep was a bitch.

Luckily with all these new resting spots there is usually one close by that is unoccupied, but I still tend to do my fletching in private.

[Deathravin]

I mastered fletching when it first came out. I just made a new character and need to do it again.

What's changed? You get XP now? How much? Is it harder to get reps or something when you're fried? I was just going to do it while my Saturated mind went down is that a bad idea?

[Deathravin]

startp:
pause 1
Start:
put get wood
put cut arrow shaft
Match Fireit That's too short to cut into
Match dropit isn't really big enough to bother splitting, so you just decide to use it as-is.
Match dropit With carefully placed cuts, you split a
Match startp ...wait
matchwait

dropitp:
pause 1
dropit:
put put shaft in my pack
Match start You put a
Match dropitp ...wait
matchwait

Fireit:
put cut arrow shaft
Match dropit isn't really big enough to bother splitting, so you just decide to use it as-is.
Match dropit With carefully placed cuts, you split a
Match startp ...wait
matchwait


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#Fletching: Learning - skillups
getshaftp:
pause 1
getshaft:
match getshaftp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match getshaftp ...wait
match cutshaft you remove a single
match stop Get what?
match getdagger You already have that.
put get 1 shaft from my pack
matchwait

getdaggerp:
pause 1
getdagger:
match getdaggerp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match getdaggerp ...wait
match cutshaft you remove
match stop Get what?
match cutshaft You already have that.
put get my dagger
matchwait

cutshaftp:
pause 1
cutshaft:
match cutshaftp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match cutshaftp ...wait
Match getshaft Realizing it would never fly straight, you discard
Match cutnocks You pare away the excess
Match cutnocks Generally, you should paint or crest
match cutnocks Do you mean to CUT NOCKS
put cut my shaft with my dagger
matchwait

cutNocksP:
pause 1
cutNocks:
match cutnocksp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match cutnocksp ...wait
Match cutnocksp Generally, you should paint or crest
Match getshaftp That'll never fire... might as well toss it.
Match dropshaft You carefully cut a nock into the end of the arrow shaft.
put cut nock in my shaft with my dagger
Matchwait

putdaggerp:
pause 1
putdagger:
match putdaggerp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match putdaggerp ...wait
match getbow you put an
put sheath
matchwait

getbowp:
pause 1
getbow:
match getbowp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match getbowp ...wait
match measshaft you sling a
put remove bow
matchwait

measshaftp:
pause 1
measshaft:
match measshaftp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match measshaftp ...wait
match wearbow you can make a tiny cut on the shaft
put measure my shaft
matchwait

wearbowp:
pause 1
wearbow:
match wearbowp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match wearbowp ...wait
match getdagger2 you sling a
put wear bow
matchwait

getdagger2p:
pause 1
getdagger2:
put get my dagger

sliceendp:
pause 1
sliceend:
match sliceendp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match sliceendp ...wait
Match Start Realizing it would never fly straight, you discard
Match DropShaft Using your previous mark as a guide
put cut my shaft with my dagger
matchwait

dropshaftp:
pause 1
dropshaft:
match dropshaftp Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command.
match dropshaftp ...wait
match getshaft You put
match getshaft You drop
put drop shaft
matchwait

stop:
exit

[NocturnalRob]

I mastered fletching when it first came out. I just made a new character and need to do it again.

What's changed? You get XP now? How much? Is it harder to get reps or something when you're fried? I was just going to do it while my Saturated mind went down is that a bad idea?

There are 500 ranks of fletching. Each rank correlates to 1 exp, so with rank 1, you get 1 exp, rank 2 is 2 exp and so on. I believe, when gifting, it adds a multiplier of 3 (rank 1 = 1x3, rank 2 = 2x3, and so on)? Can someone verify this?

So running a fletching script while saturated is the equivalent of flushing free experience down the toilet. don't do that. i did mine while i was sleeping and just sat at a table. this was before the recent scripting changes (harsh).

it gets harder as it goes, as you know. i made about 800 arrows for that last rank. and yes, just cut and nock. much faster and easier, unless you're actually using the arrows.

[Deathravin]

Well then I was gipped on my other character.

I want my 125250 xp... That's a lot of XP. That's level 99 to 100... Or 29-31...

[CrystalTears]

Do you play that character? You slowly regain that exp throughout a few weeks.

[wood1559]

would someone be kind enought to post a fletching script and instructions to use at a table? resting for experience and cleaning the table included? thanks!

[Deathravin]

Well I've been fletching for the last couple weeks. Moved on to 3 scripts, two lich and one SF.




goto "checkxp"

getshaftp:
pause("1s")
waitrt?
getshaft:
match "getshaftp", "Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command."
match "getshaftp", "...wait"
match "cutshaft", "You remove a single"
match "stop", "Get what?"
waitrt?
put "get 1 shaft from my cloak"
matchwait

cutshaftp:
pause("1s")
waitrt?
cutshaft:
match "cutshaftp", "Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command."
match "cutshaftp", "...wait"
match "checkxp", "Realizing it would never fly straight, you discard"
match "cutnocks", "You pare away the excess"
match "cutnocks", "Generally, you should paint or crest"
match "cutnocks", "Do you mean to CUT NOCKS"
waitrt?
put "cut my shaft with my knife"
matchwait

cutnocksp:
pause("1s")
waitrt?
cutnocks:
match "cutnocks", "Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command."
match "cutnocks", "...wait"
match "cutnocksp", "Generally, you should paint or crest"
match "checkxp", "That'll never fire... might as well toss it."
match "dropshaft", "You carefully cut a nock into the end of the arrow shaft."
waitrt?
put "cut nock in my shaft with my knife"
matchwait

dropshaftp:
pause("1s")
waitrt?
dropshaft:
match "dropshaftp", "Sorry, you may only type ahead 1 command."
match "dropshaftp", "...wait"
match "checkxp", "You put"
match "checkxp", "As you place"
match "checkxp", "You drop"
waitrt?
put "put shaft in wastebasket"
matchwait

checkxp:
if checkmind(5) == true then echo "Waiting for mind" end
while checkmind(5) == true
pause("5s")
end
pause("1s")
goto "getshaft"

stop:
exit


The other Lich is just ;keepalive, and the SF script tracks my ranks. I would have made it in the other script but it's working, I'm lazy, and I only have to do it for a week...

go:
waitfor That was a little easier. Perhaps you are growing more skillful?
counter set %FletchRanks%
counter add 1
setvariable FletchRanks %c%
Echo *** That makes %FletchRanks% ranks!
#put artisan skill
goto go


It works pretty well for me. I'm at 497 now, every time I would get close to an even 100 where it would change my skill level, I'd start checking that too so I knew my numbers were right. Then when I hit about 450 I checked via XP.

It's starting to take a LOT of shafts to rank up. Where before I'd rank before I hit clear, at 480 I started belling between rankups. That's also when I started getting the peerless message.

I just ignored all the messages for me typing, the messages I get etc, except the RT. So I can see the last 5 minutes of text while it runs and it would be pretty obvious if somebody was talking to me. I've missed GM pop-ins because of screen scroll in the past. And it let me know when I got a new message cutting.

[Deathravin]

499 & very very bored.

[DoctorUnne]

Does anyone know the formula for the probability of gaining a rank? I've been sitting on 499 for-fucking-ever. I know I'll get it eventually but just curious if anyone knew the formula. It seems like (500-ranks)/500 chance of success or something like that.

[Rhovan]

I don't know if it is, but it sounds like it is the same as when learning to forge.

From Krakiipedia:
(500 - RANKS + "LOG Bonus")/500 = %chance
"LOG Bonus" in this context is not your stat bonus, but a possible small adder (assumed +1 limit) for those with the correct amount of logic bonus, assumed to be +20.

Personally, I'd recommend a few enhancives or a logic badge for the last ranks.