Patriots

[Bobmuhthol]

10-0

[Stunseed]

NOBODY CIRCLES THE WAGONS LIKE THE MOTHERFUCKIN BILLS!!!!!one!!

[Makkah]

Insane game by the Brady-Moss connection.

[Axhinde]

Insane game by the Brady-Moss connection.

Once again.

[Makkah]

^ real talk

[Axhinde]

How many TD's is Brady sitting on so far? 36? 37? He's on pace to murder Mannings record of 49 by 7 or 8 or so.

Unbelieveable.

I'm no Pats fan by any means, but you have to respect the way they are playing, scandal or no.

Edit: Just read Brady threw 5. 38 TDs.

[Makkah]

I'm just glad I grabbed him and Moss in fantasy. I wouldn't mind seeing them lose, however.

[Axhinde]

I wouldn't mind seeing them lose, however.

Agreed. And yet on that same token, I would mind seeing the Dolphins win.

[SayGoodbye]

10-0




:D

[TheEschaton]

Please, someone beat them, or Boston is going to be a miserable place to live in for me.

-TheE-

[SayGoodbye]

The Pats fans were there before you. Quit bitching. Think about moving to Miami or something.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

They have a fluff schedule.

[Xaerve]

They have a fluff schedule.

People need to find more original excuses. This is the worst!

[Sean of the Thread]

Overrated.

[Skeeter]

They couldn't beat OSU

[Hulkein]

I'm just glad I grabbed him and Moss in fantasy. I wouldn't mind seeing them lose, however.

If they lose I hope it's in week 16 or 17. I have Moss in fantasy and a legit shot at winning a grand so I'm hoping they don't lose before then so there is no chance that they rest their players come week 16 (the week of our championship).

[Stanley Burrell]

I hope they win so that Miami-fucking-Florida-fucking-Dolphins finally lose face in being the only team in ML sports to hold a perfect season record.

I don't care how bad they have to continue cheating to do it. Just erase the Dolphin pompousness F-itty-F-S. God.

[Stanley Burrell]

Alfue's avatar, though.

[Latrinsorm]

but you have to respect the way they are playingYeah, you really have to respect the team that goes for it on fourth down...

...inside the opposing team's 10 yard line...

...already up by 28+ points...

...twice.

.

I'm pretty sure "respect" isn't the word here.

[Parkbandit]

Please, someone beat them, or Boston is going to be a miserable place to live in for me.

-TheE-

JUST when I thought I couldn't become a pats fan...

I'm glad that Brady is FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves. 3 Superbowls wasn't enough.. people considered him just an average player on a great team. I think this season put to rest that speculation.

PS - I just hope he throws more to Welker and stop throwing to Moss.

[Gan]

They have a fluff schedule.


People need to find more original excuses. This is the worst!

I wouldnt call it the worst excuse, it looks pretty accurate to me.

Jets (2-8)
Chargers (5-5)
Bills (5-5)
Bengals (3-7)
Browns (6-4)
Cowboys (9-1)
Dolphins (0-10)
Redskins (5-5)
Colts (8-2)
Bills (5-5)

* Upcoming games
Eagles (5-5)
Ravens (4-6)
Steelers (7-3)
Jets (2-8)
Dolphins (0-10)
Giants (7-3)

[Stanley Burrell]

Please, someone beat them, or Boston is going to be a miserable place to live in for me.

-TheE-

You chose BC while actively inhabiting Beantown. You made your own bed with that one :-P

[Sean of the Thread]

JUST when I thought I couldn't become a pats fan...

I'm glad that Brady is FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves. 3 Superbowls wasn't enough.. people considered him just an average player on a great team. I think this season put to rest that speculation.

PS - I just hope he throws more to Welker and stop throwing to Moss.

Go welker .. go welker.. go welker!


Lol that being said he's a great QB BUT .. his fucking whining and cry babying is seriously annoying. Trent Dilfer could kick his ass.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, you really have to respect the team that goes for it on fourth down...

...inside the opposing team's 10 yard line...

...already up by 28+ points...

...twice.

.

I'm pretty sure "respect" isn't the word here.


What a load of crap. Since when is playing to win being disrespectful? How many times a year do we see some teams come back? Hell, didn't Ravens ALMOST come back yesterday, being down 16-18 points? Is there some 'gentleman's' rule that if you are up 21 points, you must start running the ball and trying to go 3 and out?

Sour grapes. Boo fucking hoo. It's the NFL, you want to have another team take it easy on you.. move to Canada.

[Parkbandit]

I wouldnt call it the worst excuse, it looks pretty accurate to me.

Jets (2-8)
Chargers (5-5)
Bills (5-5)
Bengals (3-7)
Browns (6-4)
Cowboys (9-1)
Dolphins (0-10)
Redskins (5-5)
Colts (8-2)
Bills (5-5)

* Upcoming games
Eagles (5-5)
Ravens (4-6)
Steelers (7-3)
Jets (2-8)
Dolphins (0-10)
Giants (7-3)


GOD I HOPE THEY ARE 15-0 and the Dolphins are 0-15 when they meet. THAT will be a great game.

You'll have all the old Dolphins pumping up that team... I hope they go 0-16.

[Daniel]

PS - I just hope he throws more to Welker and stop throwing to Moss.

Cuz he's black?!

[Some Rogue]

Cuz he's black?!

Because I have Welker on my fantasy football team. :yes:

[Sean of the Thread]

Cuz he's black?!

I should know because I'm black.

[Gan]

GOD I HOPE THEY ARE 15-0 and the Dolphins are 0-15 when they meet. THAT will be a great game.

You'll have all the old Dolphins pumping up that team... I hope they go 0-16.

Hahah, I'd let the first string run up the first quarter just to get the blood moving then send them into the locker room to watch the game while sitting in the whirlpools and drinking beer while the second string continued to wipe the floor with them for the rest of the game.

[Xaerve]

I wouldnt call it the worst excuse, it looks pretty accurate to me.

Jets (2-8)
Chargers (5-5)
Bills (5-5)
Bengals (3-7)
Browns (6-4)
Cowboys (9-1)
Dolphins (0-10)
Redskins (5-5)
Colts (8-2)
Bills (5-5)

* Upcoming games
Eagles (5-5)
Ravens (4-6)
Steelers (7-3)
Jets (2-8)
Dolphins (0-10)
Giants (7-3)



I'd like to see this break down for the Colts/Steelers/Cowboys too. Did you find this on a site or did you build it yourself?

[Gan]

I'd like to see this break down for the Colts/Steelers/Cowboys too. Did you find this on a site or did you build it yourself?

Did it myself. It would be nice if the schedules broke it out like that. At least the schedules off the sites I read for sports news... You might find that broken out on one of the betting sites.

[Latrinsorm]

How many times a year do we see some teams come back?Tsa`ah tried that one already. Nobody has ever come back from that far down.
Hell, didn't Ravens ALMOST come back yesterday, being down 16-18 points?The Ravens came back from precisely 17 points to tie. As I'm sure you're away, 17 is not 28 and tying is not winning.
Is there some 'gentleman's' ruleI would use the word "sportsman" rather than "gentleman". There's nothing gentle about football. There is something sporting about football.
Sour grapes....because I'm such a big Bills fan? I would have said the same thing had anyone made a comment about any other team that was doing this (which is going to be hard to test, as for some reason no other team currently does this).

[Sean of the Thread]

Nobody has ever come back from that far down..

O RLY?


Peyton Manning rallied the Colts from a 35-14 deficit with four minutes left in regulation,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=231006027


lol yes this loss and peyton comeback is hard for me to ever forget. Bastard.

[Latrinsorm]

Again, 21 is not 28 (nor is it 30, nor 31, nor 38, etc.).

In short: YA RLY.

[Sean of the Thread]

Again, 21 is not 28 (nor is it 30, nor 31, nor 38, etc.).

In short: YA RLY.

Rofl.. just showing that 28 points can happen in 4 minutes of game time. Not much to argue there. Was against one of the better defenses as well.

[Gan]

Nobody has ever come back from that far down.


1992 AFC Wild Card game: Bills v. Oilers
Oilers up 28 to 3 by halftime. Bills won 41-38.


December 7, 1980: Saints v. 49ers
Saints up 35 to 7 by halftime. 49ers won 38-35.

[Skeeter]

all pro teams have the same advantages.

You can give shit to LSU running it up on ULALA or USC running it up on San Jose. Those teams aren't as committed, don't have the budget, facilities, recruits, or coaches.

In Pro every owner is a multi-millionaire, they all have great coaches facilities and the same advantages when it comes to hiring personell.

If you can't stop the pats that's a you problem not the pats problem.

[Gan]

Or a camera problem. *

[Latrinsorm]

That 49ers game was 35-7, not 37-7. 28-3 is within margin I stated.

[Sean of the Thread]

That 49ers game was 35-7, not 37-7. 28-3 is within margin I stated.

Colts scoring 28 in the last 4 minutes of game time is more relevant than any other post made so far.

[Gan]

That 49ers game was 35-7, not 37-7. 28-3 is within margin I stated.

ZOMG, by a margin of 7 (over) - 4 (under) points respectively.

Thats close enough for me.

[Kembal]

1992 AFC Wild Card game: Bills v. Oilers
Oilers up 28 to 3 by halftime. Bills won 41-38.


Didn't we score another touchdown at the beginning of the third quarter, making it 35-3? And then perform the biggest choke in the history of football?

Ugh. That game is painful to remember.

[TheEschaton]

1992 AFC Wild Card game: Bills v. Oilers
Oilers up 28 to 3 by halftime. Bills won 41-38.


Yup, the Oilers intercepted Frank Reich in the 3rd and returned it for a TD to make it 35-3. And then Frank Reich, our backup, engineered the largest, and greatest comeback ever (32 points) against Warren Moon et al. We went up 38-35, then the Oilers scored their first points after 5 straight BIlls TDs, to tie it to send into OT. They even won the coin toss in OT, but NATE MOTHERFUCKIN ODOMES intercepted it in OT and we marched down the field and Steve Christie kicked the game winning field goal. I was 11 going on 12 that year, and I was at that game. It was one of the most magical memories I have as a kid.

So yes, it is possible to come back from more than 28 points. But it's happened precisely once, by a team considered one of the greatest ever (and you can't argue that, despite losing 4 Super Bowls, those early 90s Bills were amazing), and I still don't believe it to this day..

Van Miller coined the word "Fandemonium" on that day. I never heard the man sound so overjoyed.

Edit: The game was the 92 season, but it actually took place in January 93.

-TheE-

[Skeeter]

Congrats you win a chance to get embarrassed by the cowboys. Bills may have been better off to lose that one. ;)

[Anebriated]

At this point im thinking Bellichek is just pissed off about the whole spygate scenerio and is rubbing it in the leagues face because of the fuss that was made. He was on the sideline grinning as they punted the ball from field goal range last night.

[Gan]

Didn't we score another touchdown at the beginning of the third quarter, making it 35-3? And then perform the biggest choke in the history of football?

Ugh. That game is painful to remember.

I was 22 at the time, watching the game with all my college roommates and a few work buddies at a friend's house.

That day turned out to be one of the worst days of my then 22 year old life. :(

That being said, I was born and raised as an Oiler fan. Regardless that they moved to Tennessee and became the titans, I will always be an Oilers fan.

The Oilers gear I have would scare a person. The crown piece is a football helmet chair with Oilers autographs on it from 84 through 89.

[TheEschaton]

I still have my Bills Zubaz, those are awesome (yet now ratty, since they don't seem to make team-specific Zubaz any more).

-TheE-

[Parkbandit]

Cuz he's black?!

Well of course... that's the reason I didn't draft him to begin with!

[Parkbandit]

That 49ers game was 35-7, not 37-7. 28-3 is within margin I stated.

So.. if you are up 28 points.. then you are ok to 'run it up', but if you are up 29 points, you should sit your team and relax.

You know as much about football as you do about anything else you post here. Shit.

[Axhinde]

O RLY?


Peyton Manning rallied the Colts from a 35-14 deficit with four minutes left in regulation,

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=231006027


lol yes this loss and peyton comeback is hard for me to ever forget. Bastard.


That's one I'll never forget either.

Also, it was a few years ago, ala 2000 or 2001, but Testaverde rallied the Jets to score 31 points in the 4th quarter, beating the Dolphins 31-30.

[Latrinsorm]

Colts scoring 28 in the last 4 minutes of game time is more relevant than any other post made so far.Yes it is.
So.. if you are up 28 points.. then you are ok to 'run it up', but if you are up 29 points, you should sit your team and relax.You asked a question, I gave you the answer. Is it surprising this would be your response rather than addressing the facts of the matter? No.
Also, it was a few years ago, ala 2000 or 2001, but Testaverde rallied the Jets to score 31 points in the 4th quarter, beating the Dolphins 31-30.The Jets were down 30-7 before engineering their comeback, winning in overtime by a final of 40-37 (on MNF, no less).

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yes it is.You asked a question, I gave you the answer. Is it surprising this would be your response rather than addressing the facts of the matter? No.The Jets were down 30-7 before engineering their comeback, winning in overtime by a final of 40-37 (on MNF, no less).

If only you could use that knowledge for good.

[Hulkein]

Everyone knows the Bills weren't coming back against the Pats. No matter what. Bills suck, Pats don't. Most big comebacks happen when a good team is being upset by a bad team and finally realize 'shit, we have to play.'

That being said I'm glad the Pats keep running it up. I'd rather watch them continue to beat the shit out of teams as opposed to putting in all their backups.

I won't change my tune after the Eagles get stomped this week either.

[Skeeter]

It does make betting on the pats each week easy.

[Bobmuhthol]

12-0

[Doughboy]

12-0

Man, if you want to learn how to beat the Pats, watch the last two games they played. Then just finish out the fourth quarter.....

Lucky god damn Patriots tonight.

[Skeeter]

Pats should probably figure out why they suck now.

[Drew]

Will the Steelers be favorites next week? I mean they have a good running back like Balt. AND a good offensive line. I know there's a snowball's chance in hell they'll be favoured, but the line should be very interesting.

[Anebriated]

Uh.. I dont know the numbers but I do know that the Steelers line lets up more sacks than most OLine units. Thats not exactly the mark of a good offensive line. This week they got by without letting up a sack I believe, but the average before that was somewhere around 5. Itll probably be another under but the Pats will win. 2 close games in a row they will be looking for blood.

[Drew]

Itll probably be another under but the Pats will win. 2 close games in a row they will be looking for blood.


I hope so fantasy wise, Brady and Moss were conspiring to keep me out of the playoffs, but I made it in despite them dropping turds lately.

[Sean of the Thread]

FFS I hope the crazy lines keep coming. Still got Miami and the Jets on the list of big money games!!!

+20 for a home team in the NFL are you fucking kidding me? I banked on the eagles game as well. These numbers are absurd.


Dec 03, 2007 11:47p
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
(366) Baltimore Ravens +20 (-120) Mon@8:30p
Final Scores
Outcome:Win

Patriots will lose this season much to my delight. Fucking Ravensby 3 points? C'mon.... .the eagles and colts keeping it close I Understood but..

They'll lose in the Superbowl to the Buccaneers at the very least. :P

[Androidpk]

I'm clueless when it comes to sports betting, what's a good site to use?

[Drew]

FFS I hope the crazy lines keep coming. Still got Miami and the Jets on the list of big money games!!!

+20 for a home team in the NFL are you fucking kidding me? I banked on the eagles game as well. These numbers are absurd.


Dec 03, 2007 11:47p
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
(366) Baltimore Ravens +20 (-120) Mon@8:30p
Final Scores
Outcome:Win

Patriots will lose this season much to my delight. Fucking Ravens? C'mon.... .the eagles and colts keeping it close I Understood but..

They'll lose in the Superbowl to the Buccaneers at the very least. :P



Eagles was the first line that betting against the patriots paid this year though, I think. Yeah the Pats will lose, the Phins will win too, no teams with 0 in the record this year.

[Sean of the Thread]

Eagles was the first line that betting against the patriots paid this year though, I think. .


Nope. Colts game was the first.

[Drew]

Nope. Colts game was the first.

Oh yeah.

[Skeeter]

I'm clueless when it comes to sports betting, what's a good site to use?

www.bodoglife.com is fairly popular


Early line on the Queelers is +14. Bet the house.

[Parkbandit]

Fucking Brady not throwing to Welker may have cost me a playoff birth.

[Anebriated]

Is there a playoff for the PC silvers league? How does that work out?

[Bobmuhthol]

Top in each division and wild card (highest record that didn't win division) play a 2-week playoff weeks 16 and 17. I think seeding is by record, so wild card plays whoever had the best overall record in week 16, then the two winners play for championship week 17.

[Parkbandit]

LOL.. you play week 17 as your championship.

How fucking stupid.

[Bobmuhthol]

You're right, that is fucking stupid.. my bad, I remembered it wrong. Playoffs are 15 and 16.

[Anebriated]

Word, Im guaranteed a playoff spot.

[Sean of the Thread]

www.bodoglife.com is fairly popular


Early line on the Queelers is +14. Bet the house.

Bodog is a good site for underdogs. It's a very joe public site and the lines are always inflated 1-3 points. Good value for the dogs.

Pinnacle is good for tight lines on favorites and a gauge verse dogs. They're some of the sharpest line makers in the industry.

A few of the other reputable books I'd recommended are:

Betcris
betjamaica
sportsbook
thegreek
diamond


I would stay away from Matchbook.com until you REALLY KNOW wtf you're doing. But once you do you can rape idiots that don't know.

[Drew]

I'm in the playoff in my main fantasy league, we do a more traditional 6 person 3 week playoff.

[Anebriated]

I recommend AGAINST using sportsbook. I used them for awhile but recently learned they have a $50 cashout every time. Not a big deal for high rollers but it sucks for the smaller guys. When you pick a book make sure you check what their cashout policy is, many will offer a free cashout per month or something along those lines.

bet365
betjamaica
thegreek
5dimes(hands down the best book for NHL betting)
bodoglife
pinnacle

are all good books.

[Drew]

From ESPN's week 14 pick 'em poll:


13) Steelers at Patriots: Which team wins?

53.2% Steelers
46.8% Patriots

[Bobmuhthol]

ESPN has some retarded viewers.

[Sean of the Thread]

Uhm no.


Patriots barely won againts the shitty eggles and the shittier ravens by 3 points when they were rolling with some record breaking point spreads of -20 plus.

I gave them a pass on the colts game and thought they were still the ral deal as much as I dislike them but they're going to lose this year.

They really had no business winning last night because of the officiating.

[Bobmuhthol]

Patriots will dominate Steelers, no question.

[Sean of the Thread]

Just like they should have dominated the last two teams.

I'm not sold.

[Anebriated]

I dont think theyll cover but theyll pull out the win.

[peam]

Fast Willie Parker for 165 yards and 2 TDs in a 24-17 Steelers victory.

[Anebriated]

Fast Willie Parker for 165 yards and 2 TDs and 3 fumbles in a 24-17 Patriots victory.

:yeahthat:

[Parkbandit]

Uhm no.


Patriots barely won againts the shitty eggles and the shittier ravens by 3 points when they were rolling with some record breaking point spreads of -20 plus.

I gave them a pass on the colts game and thought they were still the ral deal as much as I dislike them but they're going to lose this year.

They really had no business winning last night because of the officiating.


Wait.. are the Eagles shittier than the Jets? What about the Ravens?

If you lose against the Jets.. you really shouldn't be bragging about them imo.

[Sean of the Thread]

Wait.. are the Eagles shittier than the Jets? What about the Ravens?

If you lose against the Jets.. you really shouldn't be bragging about them imo.

Personally I think the ravens are better than the eagles just based on a defense BUT.. I think they all suck.

The patriots have shown us they're human over the past few weeks.

They still have to play the jets and miami....I can't wait to see those point spreads but after their last few games they might have mellowed out on the absurd numbers.

Especially the JETS for revenge factor going back to spygate. B B is going to want to drop 70 points on them just based on his ego and arrogance.

[Androidpk]

Wonder how many people bet against the pats tonight :)

[Drew]

Especially the JETS for revenge factor going back to spygate. B B is going to want to drop 70 points on them just based on his ego and arrogance.


More like 150 points.

[SayGoodbye]

:D

[Skeeter]

I'm glad I decided not to touch the game.

[Ardwen]

Moral of the story is, Scrub DBs should shut the hell up

[Danical]

I wonder what the game would have been like if Polamalu was in the lineup.

Those safety breakdowns were simply retarded.

[Drew]

Unless you have Brady and Moss on your fantasy team. But seriously, someone beat the Patriots please.

[Xaerve]

Moral of the story is, Scrub DBs should shut the hell up

Truth.

[Gan]

...someone beat the Patriots please.

No thanks. I hope the Pats go all the way so Shula and Marino will finally STFU.

[Latrinsorm]

I'd rather only have undefeated teams that aren't cheaters, personally.

[Gan]

Hey whatever, thats easily solved...

*

[Androidpk]

No thanks. I hope the Pats go all the way so Shula and Marino will finally STFU.

^

[Parkbandit]

No thanks. I hope the Pats go all the way so Shula and Marino will finally STFU.

/agree.

I hope in Dolphins are 0-14 and Patriots are 14-0.. then Patriots beat them 72-0... a message to the '72 Dolphins to STFU already.

[Latrinsorm]

*:yes: Now we're talking.

[Gan]

/agree.

I hope in Dolphins are 0-14 and Patriots are 14-0.. then Patriots beat them 72-0... a message to the '72 Dolphins to STFU already.

ROFL

Now thats some numerology that would be brilliant.