Would you pay to have someone killed?

[DevonG]

Lookin for open opinions on a subject.

CvC unconcented is illegal to GM's bla bla bla you get offical warnings then lockouts, blah blah blah.

How would you like to skip all of that and pay someone to RP it out and really whoop that ass at the same time? Would any of ya'll pay for that?

Would kill ANYONE. As in any level any whatever, would be RP'd out and justified.

Would you be willing to pay to have that done?

Just lookin for open opinions to see what potential business may look like.

[Fallen]

I would, and have. Yes. You simply have to trust that the one you are dealing with is going to roleplay the situation out so that the interaction is within policy.

[Gordd]

From a completely RP perspective, none of my characters would use the service. They'd either extract the revenge themselves, or be above such pettiness. That said, there's been a few "assassin guilds" in the past that have met with a modicum of success. Having never actually been on the inside though, I don't entirely know how successful they've actually been.

[Fallen]

There are a few notable assassins in GS at this very moment. Several of which are extremely well roleplayed, which is essential for an interaction that wont end up with everyone in the consultation lounge.

[TheEschaton]

The whole idea of an assassin's guild is laughable. Creating a network of people who know who you are? Ha.

[DevonG]

>>hat said, there's been a few "assassin guilds" in the past that have met with a modicum of success.

Wanna elaborate on that?

Regarding Current Day Assassins:
I haven't seen one that is RP'd well. Because if I can see'm he obviously aint too sneaky :P (Joking)

But i'm just curious how profitable such a service could be.

Gemstone needs more CvC. I'm up for a Player Organized War.

Drakes Vs. Fury! gogogogo Even though i'm not apart of either organization, would be fun to see who'd come out on top. Say they only got 3 lives each.

[Drew]

I paid 5 million once to have Querthose killed.

[Katt]

If you wanted revenge on him, you should have just E-mailed him a bunch of pictures of titties! That's free!

[Hips]

There are certain people that my character would LOVE to have killed.

But then her sister would most likely find out and it would be bad. :(

[DevonG]

good to see some positive feedback. :D

[Anebriated]

Gemstone needs more CvC. I'm up for a Player Organized War.

Wouldnt be the first time, although last time(i know of anyway) I think it was truely out of hatred and not really organized.

[Sthrockmorton]

On the reverse side of that, Kontii's a bodyguard and for hire...

[Drew]

If you wanted revenge on him, you should have just E-mailed him a bunch of pictures of titties! That's free!



It was at some festival where he offered 500k or something to have my character killed, and my character was very insulted, not by the idea as much as the paltry amount offered, so he offered 5 mil to anyone who killed quert. Unfortunately Wulfhen killed Querthose and then split the money with him.

[Whimsi]

There are a few jackasses in game that I'd pay to have killed. And I don't even play anymore. lmao.

[FinisWolf]

I paid the "Sums" once to work something out with another. I was able to watch the festivities and it was very festive indeed. Their price then was a measly 500K.

Since then I have not utilized such services.

Also, since then I have been paid at least 10 times between 500K and 2M to go murder another. Though it has been sometime I felt each interaction was fun and well played on my part, and I always kept it IC and between the one paid (me) and the target so no policy was broken. I also have to be sure that I don't know the target, and that with research the target is actually a asshat, and not just some made up BS.

My opinion is basically that if you choose to provide or use a service like this keep it quiet. Do the transaction out of game so the whispers (which are monitored more then normal chat) is not in game and not able to be seen by a GH/GM. Also, before or after both parties should keep their damn mouths shut, if they can't, then don't do business (I am sure you can see the problems that can arise here.)

Ideally though, and this is my latest philosophy on the subject, deal with it yourself. Even if you have to wait two years, do it on your own. Why?Simple. Because if the one you wish to kill, killed you, a GM can see that death, as each death and who/what killed you is recorded. So as long as you RP'd it out as I am returning the favor once bestowed upon me by CHAR X, then can look and see (be sure to keep in mind, or a log, of how long ago it was so the GM can find the death easier.).

EDITED: To add :: I am sure my mage is on a few peoples lists for retribution. I have a record of each murder he has done (namely for his own ego boost), but also so that if someone comes along and drops him, I can look and quickly find out. If they are not on my list, unconsented CvC, if they are then it's simply PvP ... though I do hope/wish they give it some RP (at least after the fact if it's an ambush).

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[Sweets]

I can't stand the "insult me I will continue to kill you repeatedly forever" mentality. It's just assinine and wrecks the experience for the poor person trying to roleplay a jerk character. I WOULD roleplay out hiring an assassin if all players involved knew what was about to transpire. A war amongst the players of gemstone? I think this could be alot of fun if everyone had a brain and used it. Why does every story line have to be GM created?

[Fallen]

If death had any consequence beyond a minor mechanical inconvenience assassination would play a larger role in GS. As it is now, death's greatest power is its insult if used correctly, and that is where the role of an assassin comes into play.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I would roleplay it out and "hire" someone if it fit the situation-- meaning I knew before hand the other person was okay with it, etc.

As for death being simply an insult, some people use systems/roleplay that death is far more serious. I believe there is a character in game that will only die 8 times before she'll be "dead" for good. Not everybody just throws around death like it's not a big deal even though I agree the mechanics make it pretty weak.

[Skeeter]

I was in an assassin's guild of sorts years back. It was very well rp'd and a lot of fun.

There was a central figure who took the "jobs" then handed them out according to skill and level to the respective members of the guild. I knew there were other people in the "guild" I just didn't know who they were as I only had contact with the central figure.

Jobs would just "pop-up" out of the blue, and you were expected to drop what you were doing to complete the contract. It was a lot of fun. I think it would be even more fun now with shadow strike.

[Amaron]

My bardess would hire as well. There is one in particular she would not mind seeing dead.

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[Gan]

I've done a few assasinations when I had my rogue. If RP'd out, it is indeed workable providing the GM(s) on duty dont have a hard on against CvC. RP must be thorough from acceptance of contract, through fulfillment, and even afterwards if you're going to even think of getting away with it. Even if your fulfillment of the contract illicits a huge mob coming after you. Which realistically can happen. Once the reports/complaints start flying, thats when the GM's start handing out warnings and such.

The starting up of a successful/genuine assasins guild would probably be the only thing that would make me regret selling my rogue.

[Latrinsorm]

Say they only got 3 lives each.Unless they forage around for a particular mushroom and get a 1UP, right?

[Shalla]

I would, and have. Yes. You simply have to trust that the one you are dealing with is going to roleplay the situation out so that the interaction is within policy.

Do you tell them why you're killing them, but keep the person's name in cofidence?

Damn you! Have Debia do the Killing! My character holds Evarin in high regard for him to do such a thing.

p.s Not that I'm against it. But it would certainly be above Evarin. IMO

[Shalla]

How much do people charge for assasination anyways? I don't mind paying someone just to have someone killed. You know, for fun.

[TheEschaton]

I would imagine the money required would be dependent on the level of the target.

-TheE-

[DCSL]

Lysistrata's used at least four different assassins that I can remember. Three that she knew personally and another contracted through an organization. That last one with the organization opened up some great political conflict roleplay that I really enjoyed.

There uh.. may be an assassin organization around already. Kind of. If it's still around.

[Skeeter]

I would imagine the money required would be dependent on the level of the target.

-TheE-

I used to get 250k per hit. My rogue was only in the 20s though. I have no idea how much of a cut the central figure took.

[DevonG]

>>If death had any consequence beyond a minor mechanical inconvenience assassination would play a larger role in GS. As it is now, death's greatest power is its insult if used correctly, and that is where the role of an assassin comes into play.

I think I already got a work around for this, find out who has the max ranks of whatever for a chrism gem. Doesn't that completely nullify the penalties at max ranks of lore? Or atleast something close to that degree.

>>Mushroom Idea
Nah, I was thinking perhaps depending on the battlefield, i'll just kill critters there, get boxes, put certain items in them, re-lock'm and throw'm back in. You find your magical artifact and you may submit it in and your character has an extra life.

All this info would be submitted to a private thought group.

>>Regarding why all story lines have to be GM oriented.
Generally its because of policy and they don't wanna be deemed completely worthless. The reason these ideas are coming out right now is because Gemstone won't do it unless you send them a fat check. Look at PSINET, it was created because people were TIRED of some of the mechanics that either didn't exist, or needed to be there to help the flow of things.

These next two events are things I have in mind to bring back that spice to elanthia. Because I get sick of this SSDD scenario I go through all day everyday when tryin to have fun.

So to outline some ideas i'm actually doing fundraising for:
CvC War (With outline, its not just kill whoever for whatever)
Dueling Tournament (Level Divisions to be displayed after all applicants have
Then <<Private>>


However more on the whole assassination topic:
My view of an assassin isn't just your traditional "XXXX Leaps from hiding!" or "A Shadowy Figures leaps from hiding!" or even "An arrow flies out of the shadows and hits Idiot#1"

If you ever see it, it's gonna look alot more gruesome then that. Maybe like 4 shadowy figures with the same weapon type(Looks very bad ass even if it happens to you :P). Or 4 arrows coming out of the shadows that look identical.

However there are more ways to kill people then seeing AS vs. DS | CS vs. TD. There are tons of ways! Not going to tell any but just take my word for it, and should you pay for said services, you'd receive the log (or as much of it as possible. Debating on just sending a modified log or giving you an IG book where you could read it as if you were the assassin.) to laugh and giggle at what an idiot the guy you paid to have killed was.

Anyways, I think I've blurted out enough. I'm gonna have an email set up soon and gonna just ask that people who'd be interested in any of the events above just send an email with the subject title or if they'd like to help out (Because this isn't always easy to organize).

Also:
For any of you willing to pay for real RP'd out assassinations. Please PM me so I have your name for future reference. Looking to start accepting contracts on ANY PC (Excluding GM's and NPC's (Unless I can find a way)) within 3 weeks from now.

Appreciate all the feed back and response you all have given.



~ Devon J. Greene

[Shari]

Jesae would hire someone. She's paid someone, and someone has paid her to kill someone. She's more inclined to just insult the person until they attack. She's not very physically combative. She's also lazy. If she knows she can kill them she'll do it, if not...she's not above hiring someone.

My pirate, will brawl whoever you put infront of her. She wouldn't hire someone, it would be below her to do it, even if she knows she'll be getting her ass handed to her by doing so herself.

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't know who owns Xyelin now days but he would partake in an occasional hit for silver. Curse for silver.. etc.

[Warriorbird]

The problem with that four people simultaneous stab thing is well...it's GS. It's usually one shot kills. Works fine in DR though. The best assassins are the boring unknown ones. People who wear "assassin" gear are usually "roleplaying" E-thug.

[ViridianAsp]

Actually, I can think of one of my character's who might do that, if the situation called for that. She wouldn't want to get her hands dirty doing it.

Hadya wouldn't, she would rather do the killing herself. Though Hadya has played people against one another to keep herself out of harms way, she'd never ever contract someone to kill.

[FinisWolf]

I can't stand the "insult me I will continue to kill you repeatedly forever" mentality. It's just assinine and wrecks the experience for the poor person trying to roleplay a jerk character. I WOULD roleplay out hiring an assassin if all players involved knew what was about to transpire. A war amongst the players of gemstone? I think this could be alot of fun if everyone had a brain and used it. Why does every story line have to be GM created?

I have never found a need, or desire, to provide more then one death to any character. Even if they decay and run right back to you and start in again. My mage simply looks at them and laughs inside. If they continue, and the childish disrespect coninues, sleep is a marvelous spell as is stun. BUT, never more then one death. (Though there was ONE exception to that early on.)

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[FinisWolf]

I've done a few assasinations when I had my rogue. If RP'd out, it is indeed workable providing the GM(s) on duty dont have a hard on against CvC. RP must be thorough from acceptance of contract, through fulfillment, and even afterwards if you're going to even think of getting away with it. Even if your fulfillment of the contract illicits a huge mob coming after you. Which realistically can happen. Once the reports/complaints start flying, thats when the GM's start handing out warnings and such.

The starting up of a successful/genuine assasins guild would probably be the only thing that would make me regret selling my rogue.

Rogues are not the only ones that can be assasians. :club:

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[FinisWolf]

The problem with that four people simultaneous stab thing is well...it's GS. It's usually one shot kills. Works fine in DR though. The best assassins are the boring unknown ones. People who wear "assassin" gear are usually "roleplaying" E-thug.

That's kinda funny. Finis is anti CvC (as much as possible, you can eventually draw him into CvC, but it takes a ton of work) and he has an assassin shield.

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[Methais]

Damn, I thought this thread was going to pertain to RL.

[Gan]

Watching an arrow come out of the shadows for the kill is a great means of assassination. And yes, there are more ways to kill than by means of a direct attack.

And I used to take 500k for a normal hit. More if the hit was to occurr in town or if it was to be a public demonstration kill.

[Sean]

Doesn't the AG basically turn you into a merc for hire? Who says it has to be CvC? You're tasked to go track and hunt grizzled uber creatures for the area, or protect diplomats, or fight back hordes, etc.

[Latrinsorm]

Isn't "assassin's shield" an oxymoron? Like "a pacifist's battleaxe" or something?

[Stanley Burrell]

Isn't "assassin's shield" an oxymoron? Like "a pacifist's battleaxe" or something?

Or a boneshattering healer.

[FinisWolf]

Isn't "assassin's shield" an oxymoron? Like "a pacifist's battleaxe" or something?

Never thought of it that way. Good point. LOL

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[FinisWolf]

The level 47ish empath I had was a "boneshatterer", not a "healer". If someone says they are a boneshattering healer, I could see what you are saying.

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[Gan]

My capped empath did both. Regularly. :p

[FinisWolf]

Yea, but we all know your capped empath sucked.

::duck::

j/k

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