Stupid fricking Lich! [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

TheEschaton

10-20-2007, 04:37 PM

I've been having these problems with Lich for about a month or two...I get lag in game, and all of a sudden, Lich freaks out and discos me. To the point of me disconnecting like 4 or 5 times in 15 minutes. The more I do (IE, the more opportunities I have to get slowed down by lag), the quicker the discos come.

anyone have any remedies? I don't think I can live without Lich right now. It's worth it just for ;goto.

-TheE-

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Lich 3.49 StandardError: Invalid argument
Lich:5569:in `gets'
Lich:5569
Lich:5566
Lich 3.49 StandardError: Invalid argument
Lich:5569:in `gets'
Lich:5569
Lich:5566
Lich 3.49 StandardError: Invalid argument
Lich:5569:in `gets'
Lich:5569
Lich:5566
Lich 3.49 StandardError: Invalid argument
Lich:5569:in `gets'
Lich:5569
Lich:5566
Lich 3.49 StandardError: Invalid argument
Lich:5569:in `gets'
Lich:5569
Lich:5566
(You have disconnected from Simutronics.)

*
* Connection to the game has been dropped.
*

Doughboy

10-20-2007, 05:01 PM

Reinstall a good version of it? Find the newest version off of google somewhere.

AestheticDeath

10-20-2007, 05:10 PM

yeah newest is 3.51, if not newer by now - not sure if it will fix the problem though

And I never figured out how to use the goto function. I tried it some in illistim and it didnt go anywhere... guess it wasnt mapped yet or something.

Donquix

10-20-2007, 05:32 PM

i think the newest is actually 3.52 now

If it makes you feel any better E, reading this thread reminded me to try installing lich again. It never worked for me before (with or without psinet)

Last time i tried was a couple versions ago, gave this one a go and it installed perfectly no problem, have it and psinet running. now....to figure out what to do with it. hehe

Shaelun

10-22-2007, 08:35 AM

Log in and see if it happens without Lich; the only cause I was able to find for that particular error is that your connection to the game was dropped unexpectedly, and the program wasn't notified that the socket reference is no longer valid.

Lich retries an operation a few times before it gives up and exits, which is the error scrolling you're seeing. If this error has been happening more frequently lately than in the past (with the same version of the program), then the program hasn't changed, and you may just be experiencing dropped connections that will happen with or without Lich.

If, however, it doesn't happen when you're not using Lich, let me know and I'll dig a little deeper the next time I'm fixing bugs.

Drew

10-23-2007, 02:40 AM

Does anyone else have problems with ;walk these days? It used to work fine but when I updated to 3.50 it puts in wrong directions quite frequently. It'll still figure out a path eventually, but it's just a bit odd and slows it down.

Hilts

11-01-2007, 03:25 PM

Cyprion

11-03-2007, 12:30 AM

lich runs within wizard mode or some crap if i remember. honastly, program isnt worth it, yet others will praise it as gods gift to gemstone.

mgoddess

11-03-2007, 01:59 AM

honastly, program isnt worth it, yet others will praise it as gods gift to gemstone.

Just as "not worth it" as PsiNet is... Depends on the person using it.

Danical

11-03-2007, 06:09 AM

<3 Lich.

<3 Shaelun for taking the time to make it.

Shaelun

11-03-2007, 08:00 PM

anyone mind telling me why i cant open lich? i double click it and nothing happens, EVER... and psinet doesnt open with my game anymore, usin the SGE or loggin in through the site. could someone PLEASE PLEASE help me... this is really frustrating

Jamus changed PsiNet2 in such a way that you *must* have Lich installed *before* you install PsiNet2. Reinstall the Simutronics launcher, then put Lich's registry key in its place by running the "start -> programs -> lich -> install to registry" link, then install PsiNet2.

Read the directions. You don't run the Lich executable (unless you know what you're doing and have a reason to).

Venom

11-06-2007, 08:18 PM

Danical

11-07-2007, 03:54 AM

Weird.

Both work for me.

Kyra231

11-07-2007, 06:47 PM

For the last week I've been getting disco'd with no warning or error message but it only happens if I run with lich(I don't use psinet at all). If I run stormfront alone I never get disco'd.

Any ideas?

~K.

CrystalTears

11-08-2007, 08:35 AM

That happened to me the other day. However I had installed version 3.53 earlier that day and it started giving me problems. I uninstalled it, put back 3.50, restarted and it hasn't done that to me again. They've updated to 3.51 to maybe that one works too, I haven't tried it yet.

Kyra231

11-08-2007, 09:08 AM

Hmm I don't have 3.50 on this pc, anyone know where to get it for windows?

Shaelun

11-09-2007, 01:00 AM

After several hours of trying, I could not get Lich and Psinet to work.

And yes, I did follow the directions to the letter.

It was either one or the other. Trying to run the game with both installed to the registry caused massive errors.

I decided to see if I could install PsiNet2 over Lich and have it work. Psinet2 started up, but it didn't start Lich.

I uninstalled Psinet2, and it didn't roll back the Simutronics registry key to point to Lich (it pointed it at the Simutronics launcher.exe). So I poked around, ended up deleting the "psinet.ini" file from the c:\Psinet directory, reinstalled Lich to the registry, reinstalled Psinet2, and they both work fine now.

So... 1) uninstall Psinet2. 2) delete "C:\Psinet\psinet.ini" if you have such a file. 3) run the "install to registry" link from Lich's start menu folder. 4) reinstall Psinet2.

v3.53 is working fine for me so far, but if you're having problems, you can d/l v3.50 here -- http://lichproject.sf.net/Lich-v3.50-Install.exe

Kyra231

11-09-2007, 08:49 AM

Hrm for some retarded reason my pc won't let me install to registry. It opens a C prompt with a message open:permission denied & that is all it will do.

Perhaps a Vista problem? I may just try the 3.50 & see what that does.

~K

thefarmer

11-09-2007, 11:47 AM

Certain things Vista won't allow you to do even on an administrator account. Or at least that's what I've run into when loading up some of my older prograrms from my old laptop.

I've been too lazy to come up with a workaround since the programs are mainly for nostalgia, but I imagine you need to log into the Super/Default(?) administrator account like in XP.

Shaelun

11-09-2007, 04:46 PM

Certain things Vista won't allow you to do even on an administrator account. Or at least that's what I've run into when loading up some of my older prograrms from my old laptop.

If that's the case, then you definitely need to login as the primary computer administrator (the "superuser" or "root" account).

By the by, v3.53 is as reliable as -- well, as the sun rising... no bugs that I can find at all. I can't fix a bug I can't recreate, so unless you want to email me absolutely all the detailed information you possibly can on when/why you guys are getting disconnected, I can't do anything about it.

P>;e puts sprintf("Logged in at %s.\r\nTime now is %s.\r\nTotal time connected is %s (hh:mm:ss).", $login_time.to_s, Time.now.to_s, ((Time.now - $login_time)/60).as_time)
--- Lich: exec1 active.
Logged in at Thu Nov 08 23:38:30 Eastern Standard Time 2007.
Time now is Fri Nov 09 15:45:56 Eastern Standard Time 2007.
Total time connected is 16:07:26 (hh:mm:ss).
--- Lich: exec1 has finished.
P>;stats

Time passed since login: 16:10:20
System CPU time used (secs): 0.578000
User CPU time used (secs): 5.046000
Lich's process ID: 3260

Lich's `home' directory is: C:/Program Files/Lich/
Lich's `saved data' dir is: C:/Program Files/Lich/data/
Lich's script directory is: C:/Program Files/Lich/Scripts/
# of room transitions counted: 43 (not accurate when using SF)

Size of temporary disk caches: 426.313KB
RAM in use by script IO buffers: 0.047KB
# of dead scripts still on heap: 1 (exec1)
# of open file descriptors: 2 (C:\DOCUME~1\admin\LOCALS~1\Temp\.cache.3260.23967 144, C:\DOCUME~1\admin\LOCALS~1\Temp\.cache.3260.239670 72)

# of scripts in scheduling pool: 3
# of scripts queued to execute: 0
# of scripts blocked on IO: 2 (infomonitor, keepalive)
P>

Dunno what's happening differently on your computer(s).

Drew

11-09-2007, 06:13 PM

Am I the only one having a ton of problems with ;walk? I had them with 3.50 and now I've upgraded to 3.53 with the same problems. I redownloaded the walk script from the repository twice too. It enters an illegal direction for a room sometimes, then it will figure out a valid direction, but sometimes it will just hang. Also sometimes it will walk right by a critter (only when it enters the wrong direction for a room).

Shaelun

11-10-2007, 09:08 AM

After playing for awhile in SF, I did find a couple of bugs... ;walk isn't working reliably for me either -- 3/4 of the time it does, but the other quarter of the time it hangs (as you said)... I haven't figured out why yet, but I'll look at it again later today.

Also noticed that if you keep SF set to store all of your data on your local computer and not the server, the server doesn't send the information Lich uses to snag your character name and whatnot. I'll look at that too at some point.

If anybody has anything else to bitch about, now's as good a time as any.

TheEschaton

11-10-2007, 01:58 PM

I'm trying to get ;goto expanded, but everytime I open up the map in Notepad, to see what's been mapped already, it's like one massive Wall-o-Text, even when wordwrapped.

-TheE-

mgoddess

11-10-2007, 02:46 PM

I open up the map in Notepad,

Use Wordpad.

7Seconds

11-18-2007, 06:27 PM

someone care to give me an explanation as to what Lich is in a nutshell? I can't seem to find anything on the web.

Kyra231

11-19-2007, 09:32 PM

Well 3.50 got me into lich not disco'ing then & the repository working until today.
Anyone else having the repository not working?

~K.

Drew

11-19-2007, 11:43 PM

After playing for awhile in SF, I did find a couple of bugs... ;walk isn't working reliably for me either -- 3/4 of the time it does, but the other quarter of the time it hangs (as you said)... I haven't figured out why yet, but I'll look at it again later today.

My ;walk problem was happening in the wizard just for reference, don't know if your two statements were connected.

Some Rogue

11-20-2007, 12:23 AM

Well 3.50 got me into lich not disco'ing then & the repository working until today.
Anyone else having the repository not working?

~K.

Yeah, the last 4 or 5 days, I get a 30 second freeze on login and I've been unable to reach the repository as well. Stopping lichnet from running on startup took care of the freezes.

Sean of the Thread

11-20-2007, 04:57 AM

Lich stole my webkinz passwords.

Thoroughly pissed about this.

Shaelun

11-20-2007, 06:09 PM

Lich stole my webkinz passwords.

No, it didn't.

Shaelun

11-20-2007, 06:21 PM

The machine that the server programs run on apparently crashed; it's a rented box sitting in a basement somewhere, and I'm not the one who "owns" it -- so there's nothing I can do until the computer is reset.

Once Vizy has the server reset, I'll login and restart the servers. Until then, just take the lichnet script off your favorites list as "Some Rogue" said.

As for the website, use http://lichproject.sf.net instead of http://lich.sudolife.com (for this very reason: SourceForge.net is a massive site, and sudolife.com is a single machine Vizy is kind enough to let the servers run on for free).

Some Rogue

11-20-2007, 06:35 PM

Vizy

11-26-2007, 02:57 PM

I notified the remote hands, and because of the holiday, they were not able to take care of it right away. I'm attempting to get a machine that I can put my hands on to avoid this in the future, but that may also take some time.

Terribly sorry about the delay. Free is wrought with problems at times.

Sean of the Thread

11-26-2007, 03:12 PM

Lich steals credit card numbers.

mgoddess

11-26-2007, 03:20 PM

Lich steals credit card numbers.

So that's what those mysterious charges for Simutronics are for...

Sean of the Thread

11-26-2007, 04:38 PM

Lich stores your account name and passwords and sells them to Tsin too.

Shaelun

11-27-2007, 06:16 AM

Lich stores your account name and passwords and sells them to Tsin too.

Yeah, it's the reason you can never find a pair of matching socks either -- it sneaks into your laundry room while you sleep and takes them all.

Gimme a fuckin' break. I suppose you don't think we've ever been to the moon and all that, as well? Have you figured out yet that the 7 members of the Illuminati (is it 7? I haven't talked to anybody who actually bought this trash for years) secretly control every government on the planet for their own personal gain?

Well, whatever. Maybe if you report me for credit theft the FBI will be able to track my 133t h4x0r-self down or something. :jerkit:

thefarmer

11-27-2007, 09:31 AM

There needs to be a little icon that has the hand going over the head and a little 'Whoooosh' caption.

Baseless

12-02-2007, 01:31 PM

I just want to take the time to say, once again, that Lich is a superior program, and that everyone who plays gemstone should run it.

If they don't, then they're idiots.

Baseless

12-02-2007, 01:32 PM

PS: Jamus and Psinet are as queer as a 3 and a half dollar bill with Jesse Jackson on it.

Sean of the Thread

12-02-2007, 01:47 PM

Lich seriously steals your account info and fucks your system up.

DON'T USE IT.

mgoddess

12-02-2007, 02:43 PM

Lich seriously steals your account info and fucks your system up.

Just because you had a virus on your computer at the same time you were using Lich doesn't mean Lich steals account info...

I've been using Lich for a good two years now and I've had no problem at all with it. It hasn't fucked up my computer, it hasn't stolen my Simu account info, it hasn't stolen my credit card info... it hasn't done anything but help improve my GemStone 4 game play.

Sean of the Thread

12-02-2007, 08:42 PM

Consider yourself one of the lucky ones!

Vizy

12-05-2007, 09:41 PM

Sean2, if you'd like to show proof of how lich steals your password, I'd be more than happy to listen. I host it because I've looked at the code, and made sure as far as I can that it's safe. Shaelun and myself have no need or want for any of your characters, money, fame, or items as we've somehow managed to have our 'real lives' interfere too much with playing GS these days. However, I seem to recall that you've said the same thing about any "addon" to Simu games, so I'm more apt to dismiss any dubious claims as trolling.

In other news, lichnet and lichupdate is back up, along with the website. Sorry for the delay in getting it back up, the server is "supposed" to be moving in a few weeks to its final home. I'm working on a plan to have lich on machine that at least has remote kvm access, but who knows.

Sean of the Thread

12-05-2007, 09:56 PM

Lich stole my Dean Martin record.

Halstein

12-05-2007, 10:09 PM

What I fail to understand is why people keep feeding him and taking him seriously.

Stunseed

12-05-2007, 10:14 PM

Lich stole your troll food.

Sean of the Thread

12-05-2007, 10:21 PM

Hehehe seriously I've obviously been fucking around since the first time I posted a smartass anything. I've always thought it was super obvious but to each their own. If you're feeding me it's you're own fault.. everyone knows I get off on fucking with people a little bit. Life would be disastrously boring otherwise.

Lich is a super fucking proggy. How anyone can manage without it would surprise me.

KEEP FEEDING ME I'M ENJOYING EVERY NIBBLE!

Halstein

12-30-2007, 07:14 PM

I decided to see if I could install PsiNet2 over Lich and have it work. Psinet2 started up, but it didn't start Lich.

I uninstalled Psinet2, and it didn't roll back the Simutronics registry key to point to Lich (it pointed it at the Simutronics launcher.exe). So I poked around, ended up deleting the "psinet.ini" file from the c:\Psinet directory, reinstalled Lich to the registry, reinstalled Psinet2, and they both work fine now.

So... 1) uninstall Psinet2. 2) delete "C:\Psinet\psinet.ini" if you have such a file. 3) run the "install to registry" link from Lich's start menu folder. 4) reinstall Psinet2.

v3.53 is working fine for me so far, but if you're having problems, you can d/l v3.50 here -- http://lichproject.sf.net/Lich-v3.50-Install.exe

Finally got around to messing with today on Vista X64 and this method worked. Very nice to have both running again.

Drunken Durfin

01-30-2008, 04:49 PM

This is happening a lot lately...

s>
Lich 3.53 Exception: stream closed
Lich:3083
Lich:5869
--- Lich's connection to the game has been closed.

http://www.trialteamone.com/teras/lich.jpg

and just got booted again...

Lich 3.53 Exception: stream closed
Lich:3461
Lich:5869
--- Lich's connection to the game has been closed.

StJimmy

01-31-2008, 05:33 AM

I've been getting the exact same error, random bootings, the above messaging and sometimes this massive wall of text followed by about a two minute lag after which my character either logs on, or gets booted again.

Gibreficul

02-03-2008, 06:30 AM

Lich doesn't seem to like when I sell gems at the gemshop in Ta'Illistim. (I run a SF script that grabs gems based on a wall of matchre strings.)

As for lich as a program... there's virtually nothing it can't do if you take the time to learn how to use it. I'm trying to write a script that'll have lich walk my dog for me IRL. Any help Shaelun?

Oh, i get that disco message sometimes. <shrug> Relog.

And, that's interesting Shaelun. Exactly what settings SHOULD I have on the simu server for lich's benefit? I just recently swapped all the settings local....

Shaelun

02-03-2008, 10:30 PM

I have no idea what's causing that error. The fact that it says tell Microsoft and not the program developer seems odd to me: are you guys running Vista or 64-bit versions of XP, perhaps?

As for the local settings, all I've noticed is that if you have absolutely all your settings on the local computer, the server doesn't send your character name at login -- at least not in the same format that Lich recognizes. That causes some strange errors, but if you aren't having problems, don't worry about it. Setting just about anything to be kept server-side should fix that.

I've been trying to write a script that'll do my grocery shopping for over a year. Robotics became really, really interesting to me when I realized I could actually write a program to do that if I just had a robot to program...

Murr

02-17-2008, 02:53 AM

Anyone able to install Psinet properly on Vista 64?

When I try to install (even as admin), I get this:

Could not access the Simutronics Game Launcher location key. Please install (or reinstall) the Simutronics Game Launcher before installing Psinet.

I've tried a full removal/reinstall of the launcher, etc. to no avail.

Shaelun

02-17-2008, 11:32 PM

Haven't a clue about your Psinet issue, but I suppose if I had to take a blind guess, it might be possible that 64-bit Vista uses different registry keys for "old" 32-bit programs, and the Psinet setup prog isn't taking that into account. That's a wild guess, mind you, so don't quote me on it or anything.

The problems/crashes/booted-from-the-game issues are fixed in Lich v3.56, by the by. http://lichproject.sf.net/Lich-v3.56-Install.exe

Sean of the Thread

02-17-2008, 11:34 PM

Lich stole my 8 bit Legend of Zelda.

Drunken Durfin

02-19-2008, 06:18 PM

Random boots have stopped for me after the last update.

Thanks.

blufire

12-10-2008, 09:11 AM

lich hangs in the login part. here is the message.
linux box

libFOX-1.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory - gui/fox16.so
IP:port = gs3.simutronics.net:4900
Permission denied - /root/lich/hosts.sav
Lich:4206:in `unlink'
Lich:4206:in `hack_hosts'
Lich:5228

anyone know how to fix it?

lich 3.57 newest version

and I am very greatful for the work you have done shaelun

BigWorm

12-10-2008, 02:42 PM

Looks like you are on linux.

This looks like a permissions/uid issue. I think Shaelun's directions for the permissions can be confusing and I have had the install script set incorrect permissions before. I am logged in as a normal use, but set lich itself to run as root since it only needs superuser permissions at the very beginning of run time and drops down to a normal user after that.

Try this:

make sure the lich directory is in the home directory of the user you normally log in as. If this is not the case, then

mv lich/ ~

After that, you need to make sure the ownership and permissions of the lich directory are correct for a normal user. USER_ID here is your login name.

chown USER_ID -R ~/lich
chmod 755 -R ~/lich

Now, we need to let lich run as root, which is called making it setuid root.

chown root ~/lich/lich
chmod u+s ~/lich/lich

See if that has fixed you permission problems.