And finally....

[oldanforgotten]

Well, after 9 months, it was finally done last week, and Illidan is dead. I?m disappointed. For the last 2 weeks, given the sheer amount of time and attempts required to get RoS and Shahraz down, even though after more than 3 weeks after downing them, they should have been on farm by now (good fucking luck with ever farming those assholes, especially RoS phase 2 with a paladin heavy raid healing group), we even decided to nerd it up hardcore and raid a 4th night to get more time for the council and Illidan himself. Needless to say, for those who get there, it?s disappointingly easy. It took us less attempts than our first Hydross kill.

Here?s hoping the Sunwell Plataeu will have better end bosses.

On a side note, now with Illidan down, we?ve turned the 4th night into a non DKP Full SSC/TK through Solarian event for raiders/alts/friends, and has anyone else noticed that Leotheras is being a bitch with the whirls and the timing of the aggro reset post patch? Or that Solarian just picked up some new spells that he?s never used before? First time we?ve wiped on leo in like 5 months or something stupid like that, and I?m hoping its because he got buffed and not because we suck.
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[Sean of the Thread]

Your command of the English language sucks.. that was almost unreadable.

[Skeeter]

I'm starting to miss raiding after a 6 month break. Considering starting back up next week. I have a friend who's guild is finishing up Kara which would be just about perfect for my gear level since I've done nothing since Naxx.

[Sean of the Thread]

What class Skeet?

[Parkbandit]

I miss new content raiding. We never seem to have 25 able raiders online anymore........................................... ..............................

[Some Rogue]

I pretty much hate WoW as it is now. Raiding was the only thing keeping me going and being stalled there is seriously making me consider just selling and being done with it.

[oldanforgotten]

I miss new content raiding. We never seem to have 25 able raiders online anymore........................................... ..............................


Some of the new content is disappointing, some of it is just outright incredible. Vashj is one of the great fights in the game, as is KT. One of the things I like about the new content are the relevant stupidity checks. Until the very end of Naxx, no bosses required 40 good people, any group could easily have 20 good, 20 bad, and still do everything in MC, BWL, AQ till C?thun, or Naxx up through the Horsemen.

RoS probably is the single most difficult encounter ever in the game, and is the most intense DPS and healing check I?ve ever seen (2.3 million damage in 110-115 seconds during phase 2). I?m honestly hoping nothing gets the uber nerf bat swung at it, because nothing is on the order of that fight that anyone has ever seen until you witness it. Vashj and KT before you outgear them and know the encounter hands down can be the same.

I?m not disappointed at all with the new content, just disappointed with Illidan. He seems to be more of a reward for getting to him than an actual endgame boss.
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[oldanforgotten]

I pretty much hate WoW as it is now. Raiding was the only thing keeping me going and being stalled there is seriously making me consider just selling and being done with it.

What fight are you stuck on?
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[Skeeter]

What class Skeet?

I R Warrior. Tough guys go straight ahead.

[Some Rogue]

What fight are you stuck on?

It's not a fight, it's getting people to be online like PB said.

[Skeeter]

I miss the 40 man raids. It was almost like a separate community, you had plenty of people to joke and have fun with. 25 man raids are inherently different for some reason, likely because you have to focus that much more. It's less fun more like work.

[Skeeter]

It's not a fight, it's getting people to be online like PB said.

Isn't it odd that you could fill 40 man raids with no problems and have 10-15 people on standbye just hoping to get in, but with 25 mans it's difficult to get 20 people on at the same time.

[Some Rogue]

Isn't it odd that you could fill 40 man raids with no problems and have 10-15 people on standbye just hoping to get in, but with 25 mans it's difficult to get 20 people on at the same time.

I'm sure that goes back to the whole fact of you could have 20 slackers and 20 people doing their job and still succeed. People are fucking lazy and don't want to have to work for what they get. These are the same people who don't show up with potions or food or reagants and so on.

Hell, I am one of the most dedicated raiders in our guild and somedays I don't feel like being there and giving it all I got. Though that's probably because my back hurts so much from carrying people like T&S and PB.

[Drew2]

I think I'm just on a shitty server, because 1 guild on our server has beaten Illidan, and only like maybe 1 or 2 more are even up to Black Temple. The guild I'm in is still in TK/SSC, and probably pretty far from clearing it. I guess I'll have to transfer servers if I ever want to have a shot at end game content, because the 1 guild on the server that does do it is way too fucking snooty.

[oldanforgotten]

It's not a fight, it's getting people to be online like PB said.

Then throw your old guild friends on the friends list, app to a more stable raiding guild. Although, admittedly, as a rogue, that?ll be tougher, since most guilds, for some ridiculous reason, hate rogues. We were probably one of the few guilds out there using 3-4 of them in our raids. Best direct damage class for bossfights, and no threat worries.
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[oldanforgotten]

I think I'm just on a shitty server, because 1 guild on our server has beaten Illidan, and only like maybe 1 or 2 more are even up to Black Temple. The guild I'm in is still in TK/SSC, and probably pretty far from clearing it. I guess I'll have to transfer servers if I ever want to have a shot at end game content, because the 1 guild on the server that does do it is way too fucking snooty.

200+ US servers, and there are less than 500 guilds in the Black Temple. 3 on a server is average. Some servers will have 5 or 6. As for getting into them, it would all depend where in SSC/TK you are at. Any guild and its mother can down just loot reaver and the LOLurker below. But then again, I can?t even say that. Many of our best recruits post TBC were from guilds that were way behind, but they happened to be their best player.

From what I?ve seen, most policies raiding wise are similar, not sure if that?s what you mean by snooty. No talking during boss fights, generally limited association with other guilds (mostly because the raiding builds a more tight knit community), and a very scrutinizing eye. I think part of the problem has to do with candy-coating reasons. They will tell you one reason why you were denied an app, when in reality, it?s simply because you weren?t good enough, or you were chattery on vent, or you pissed someone off that you shouldn?t have.

We?ve trialed people that were denied after a single boss fight, and trialed others where after 3 full weeks, it was such a borderline issue, it was painful to say no. I don?t envy the recruitment officers position ever, nor the raid leaders position.
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[Tea & Strumpets]

I'm sure that goes back to the whole fact of you could have 20 slackers and 20 people doing their job and still succeed. People are fucking lazy and don't want to have to work for what they get. These are the same people who don't show up with potions or food or reagants and so on.

Hell, I am one of the most dedicated raiders in our guild and somedays I don't feel like being there and giving it all I got. Though that's probably because my back hurts so much from carrying people like T&S and PB.

You sicken me.

[Some Rogue]

Then throw your old guild friends on the friends list, app to a more stable raiding guild..

I'll probably quit or take a break before I leave the guild. I've been through that kind of thing before and I don't wanna do it again.



Although, admittedly, as a rogue, that’ll be tougher, since most guilds, for some ridiculous reason, hate rogues. We were probably one of the few guilds out there using 3-4 of them in our raids. Best direct damage class for bossfights, and no threat worries.

Yeah, rogues are a great class at the moment. I'm the only one we have and I top the damage meters pretty much every raid even if a certain shaman who posts here won't admit it. :tumble:

[oldanforgotten]

Yeah, rogues are a great class at the moment. I'm the only one we have and I top the damage meters pretty much every raid even if a certain shaman who posts here won't admit it. :tumble:

QTF

Group 1
Prot Warrior
Prot Warrior/Prot Pally
Resto Druid
Feral Druid
Warlock

Group 2
Rogue
Rogue
Hunter/Rogue
DPS Warrior/Rogue
Enhance Shaman

Group 3
Shadow Priest
Ret Pally
Holy Pally
Holy Priest
Resto Shaman

Group 4
Warlock
Warlock
Mage
Warlock/Mage
Elemental Shaman

Group 5
Hunter
Holy Pally
Shadow Priest
Holy Priest
Holy Pally

= win

Our rogues usually are able to pump out anywhere from 1300-1600 DPS depending on the fight.

Our DPS Chart usually looks like
Rogue (1500 DPS)
Rogue
Warlock
Elemental Shaman
Warlock
Rogue
Warlock
Hunter
Hunter
DPS Warrior
Shadow Priests + Mages (1000-1100 DPS)

Dagger Rogues at the top, Sword/Fist rogues underneath. For obvious reasons, no mace rogues allowed.
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[Some Rogue]

Yeah, I love having the enhance shaman plus a feral druid(who knows his place :D ) and a DPS warrior.

Except most feral druids can go die in a fire after one stole our first and only Dragonspine trophy. Fucking cocksucker then decided he wanted a break from raiding. Still pissed off about that.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I'm the only one we have and I top the damage meters pretty much every raid even if a certain shaman who posts here won't admit it. :tumble:

I am curious, were you struck by lightning when you typed this?

[oldanforgotten]

Yeah, I love having the enhance shaman plus a feral druid(who knows his place :D ) and a DPS warrior.

Except most feral druids can go die in a fire after one stole our first and only Dragonspine trophy. Fucking cocksucker then decided he wanted a break from raiding. Still pissed off about that.

Wow..... just wow.

We classify all items by class or classes.
Until all the need was satisfied, the only classes that could roll on the DST were fury warriors and rogues. It was unfortunately not a DKP item for long, simply because Gruuls and Mags were downed in a couple days and so quickly that they became off night farm content by the fourth week (only needed for the attunements, which unfortunately, no longer exist). Then hunters. Then ret pallies/MS warriors. Then anyone else + alts.

There are a lot of fights where the second tranquility in the primary tank group makes all the world of difference (Mag's 30% ceiling fall, Leo's split at 15%, after a bad KT gravity lapse hit, etc..)
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[Some Rogue]

I am curious, were you struck by lightning when you typed this?

NO
NO
NO
I don't think so.

[oldanforgotten]

I am curious, were you struck by lightning when you typed this?

If he knows how to play his class, there isn't a shaman out there with equivalent gear that can keep up with a rogue in any kind of tank and spank situation.

One thing I would add is you dont always need 25 full people. Gruuls needs no more than 17-18, and you can easily clear to Leo with 20 in SSC. Never tried doing TK with less than 25, but I'm sure VR could be 20 manned. I wouldnt try to 20 man A'lar or Solarian though.
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[CrystalTears]

If he knows how to play his class, there isn't a shaman out there with equivalent gear that can keep up with a rogue in any kind of tank and spank situation.
Especially one that disco's when the wind is right.

[Sean of the Thread]

Yawn

[Some Rogue]

One thing I would add is you dont always need 25 full people. Gruuls needs no more than 17-18, and you can easily clear to Leo with 20 in SSC. Never tried doing TK with less than 25, but I'm sure VR could be 20 manned. I wouldnt try to 20 man A'lar or Solarian though.

Yeah, we've ran Gruul's short handed a lot. Our first kill was with 22 I think. I think we even cleared to VR shorthanded. So, I know we have the talent to do it...but those early tries on a new boss I'd really like to have a full raid.

[Some Rogue]

Yawn

Go play with your "twinks" nancy.

:medieval:

[Sean of the Thread]

Heheheheh. Come play with me.

[Trouble]

Then throw your old guild friends on the friends list, app to a more stable raiding guild.

This is starting to sound like a good idea. By the time we get to the point of seeing current end-game content, the next XP will be out, just like before.

I think I'd have to transfer servers though, there aren't enough real raiding guilds on Dunemaul. Or I guess I could level a priest on another server... with tailoring as a profession, an experienced priest can step right into 25-man raids soon after hitting 70.