Skyfawn/Keemac/Alanamarie

[Trinitis]

Am I the only person in/around Icemule that gets sick of the constant fog fest that is these three people? Ever since I started playing this game..there has been three constants...

#1. I will always have a healer.

#2. There will be a fight/bickering on the Icemule amulet once a day.

#3. Keemac/Skyfawn/Alanamarie will fog to someone who just died before their body hits the dirt. Claim them, and fog back so that Skyfawn can strip them clean of wounds and Keemac/Alanamarie will raise.

To be honest, I bet 70% of the town don't care, because all they want is to be saved fast, raised..so they can move on. But speaking from an Healers (and RP perseptive) I'd rather rot. There IS no RP with these three. They fog, clean, raise (with some little corny rez line) then throw your butt back into the mix. Heck, sometimes, they hardly talk to eachother! Ugh, its just soooo annoying!

Don't even let me get started on Alanamarie's Mentor Skills..oi..

-Adredrin, Grump Sorcerer of Icemule. :moon:

[Edited on 6-30-2003 by LordAdredrin]

[Red Devil]

Here's what you do... You ask them to stop rezzing/fogging to you, when I lived in icemule it seemed those were the only people rescuing, after you do this, you'll be able to rot, ya ungrateful pos

[Ilvane]

There was a time that Skyfawn and Keemac roleplayed a lot. I haven't been around Mule much lately, so this has changed? I hope not, because they have always been good friends. I was hearing some that people were having trouble with them because they would come with a healer or a cleric.

I don't know, firsthand so that could be a complete fallacy.

-A

[Parkbandit]

Put the three on your befriend list as cold.. they won't be able to do anything except fog you back to town.

Or, if you are a wizard, cast meteor swarm in a desolated spot. The cast will kill you and as she fogs in, kill her as well.

They are both fun to do to vultures.

[Soulpieced]

Shouldn't Skyfawn be 160 or even above the level cap? If so, why does she continue to heal? Though the two of them have been around Icemule for a long time, they're always together.... and for some reason I've always hated Keemac's name.

[Ramos]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Shouldn't Skyfawn be 160 or even above the level cap? If so, why does she continue to heal? Though the two of them have been around Icemule for a long time, they're always together.... and for some reason I've always hated Keemac's name.

I've never had a character make it to the cap in GS3, so I'm not sure how it works. Do you continue to gain experience, but just can't train? Or do you stop gaining experience?

[Scott]

<<Shouldn't Skyfawn be 160 or even above the level cap? If so, why does she continue to heal? Though the two of them have been around Icemule for a long time, they're always together.... and for some reason I've always hated Keemac's name.>>

I think she is 161...

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Shouldn't Skyfawn be 160 or even above the level cap? If so, why does she continue to heal? Though the two of them have been around Icemule for a long time, they're always together.... and for some reason I've always hated Keemac's name.

The empath can do the fogging/healing and the cleric that hasn't reached the cap yet, can do the raising. It's a very easy way for a cleric to gain experience without having to have weapon/armor/spells.

[Taernath]

Alanamarie is a typical vulturing fogger. Someone announces over a thought net that they or a body need fogging, so I ask if anyone's there yet. They say no so I say 'ok, on my way' and start walking (haven't got fog yet). Usually by the time I get there Alanamarie has arrived, gotten the body and returned to town already. Sometimes she arrives slightly after I do and claims the body anyway. Very annoying, especially if you're headed to a dangerous area.

[Parkbandit]

Originally posted by Taernath
Alanamarie is a typical vulturing fogger. Someone announces over a thought net that they or a body need fogging, so I ask if anyone's there yet. They say no so I say 'ok, on my way' and start walking (haven't got fog yet). Usually by the time I get there Alanamarie has arrived, gotten the body and returned to town already. Sometimes she arrives slightly after I do and claims the body anyway. Very annoying, especially if you're headed to a dangerous area.

Oh come now.. vultures can be fun to screw with... you just have to know how :)

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Shouldn't Skyfawn be 160 or even above the level cap? If so, why does she continue to heal? Though the two of them have been around Icemule for a long time, they're always together.... and for some reason I've always hated Keemac's name.

Actually, last time I checked, she was over 200.

-Adredrin.

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Taernath
Alanamarie is a typical vulturing fogger. Someone announces over a thought net that they or a body need fogging, so I ask if anyone's there yet. They say no so I say 'ok, on my way' and start walking (haven't got fog yet). Usually by the time I get there Alanamarie has arrived, gotten the body and returned to town already. Sometimes she arrives slightly after I do and claims the body anyway. Very annoying, especially if you're headed to a dangerous area.

And while you're walking there... the person waiting with the body or needing help dies, and the problem is bigger than it needed to be. Foggers have a more efficient way of getting to people, and those who choose to walk choose the risk of arriving after a fogger. If you are really concerned about the welfare of the person requesting assistance, it doesn't matter who gets there first.. as long as they get help.

Ask for the Trio (Alana/Sky/Keemac), Their monopolization of dead ones in Icemule does get annoying from time to time, but if I were in the deader's shoes, I wouldn't care if I was rescued by a half-witted rolton. Usually, if you ask either Skyfawn or Alana, (well maybe not Alana), they'll usually let you heal/raise if they've been doing a lot of it at the time. I know for a fact Skyfawn passes the healing on to another healer if one is present.

-Tayre

p.s.- Skyfawn is 210 trains.

[Taernath]

Originally posted by Tayre
If you are really concerned about the welfare of the person requesting assistance, it doesn't matter who gets there first.. as long as they get help.

Suppose there were a script-healing empath that could transfer and heal a characters wounds before the other empaths in TC could react. Would you be happy about it?

[Drew2]

Originally posted by Taernath
Suppose there were a script-healing empath that could transfer and heal a characters wounds before the other empaths in TC could react. Would you be happy about it?

It's called the Landing. Which is why I live in Mule.

[Taernath]

Right, and I do too. Alanamarie is the cleric version of a script healing empath.

[Drew2]

I can understand the frustration in that, I suppose. But until you learn to fog, I really don't see how you can complain about having to walk around. We all did that, at one point. (We meaning foggers.)

[Friendlly Sheruman]

Well Skyfawn and Keemac are my parents, and Alanamarie is my sister, so I have a unique perspective on this issue. I know they help alot of people and that must bother you that you either cant help or you are very slow at helping. to slander their names is not the answer, perhaps if you spent less time here slandering and more time rescuing you wouldnt have that problem. While you morons are at it add me to that list of vultures cause what they do I do too. SO I must be a vulture. In the future if you have a problem with someone why dont you come talk to them about it instead of posting rediculous messages. yers truly Vulturing Friendlly!

[Drew2]

Hehe! That's what it always is! Jealousy!

[Taernath]

Originally posted by Tayre
I can understand the frustration in that, I suppose. But until you learn to fog, I really don't see how you can complain about having to walk around. We all did that, at one point. (We meaning foggers.)

Er, my complaint wasn't that I have to walk, it was that Alanamarie either ignores or doesn't hear announcements, and doesn't announce herself. I'm pretty sure she's in Voln, so there's no excuse to not at least say something.

[Taernath]

Originally posted by Friendlly Sheruman
to slander their names is not the answer, perhaps if you spent less time here slandering and more time rescuing you wouldnt have that problem. While you morons are at it add me to that list of vultures cause what they do I do too.

You're laying the righteous indignation on a little too thick. I wasn't slandering her, because slander by definition is a false statement. What I've related does happen, and it's happened to me several times. I don't have a problem with her personally, just her poor rescuing practices.

[Friendlly Sheruman]

well false statements
#1 that Keemac is a vulturer
come now he is never around and when he is he saves maybe 3 people, before you accuse someone of Vulturing at least know what the hell you are talking about!
#2 Skyfawn and Alanamarie not vultures: just rescue alot of people, maybe if you would stop to pay attention you might notice what really is going on, Sky only heals when their isnt another for one and for 2 Alanamarie gives at least 60 percent of the people she does rescue away to be raised:: So before you go SLANDERING peoples names learn the facts if they are guilty of anything it is helping people in Mule.. So if you rather everyone rot waiting for your punk arse to walk to them then you know what that can happen too. They do fog alot of people in i will give you that, but they do it and then give them up to others.. So like i said before talk to them first for crying out loud.


again yers truly
Vulturing Friendlly

[Scott]

I don't go to mule so I don't really deal with it. However, it's really simple for people say "I don't want you to raise me, I don't want you to heal me, I don't want you to..... etc." As for vulturing. Cast quicker. If you are walking, announce that you are walking to get someone. In that case, I'm sure one of them would say "don't bother walking, I'm fogging them out." There are a lot of empaths I don't let heal me, Laren especially. I whisper to an empath to heal me, so I don't get the scripting ones. It's not hard to avoid the problem.....

[Cyprion]

When dead, honastly does matter who raises me, Everyone gets tipped and i am alive in the grand sceme. But really dont like the name friendlly. not only is a double ll a sad attempt at taking an already taken name, what kind of name is friendly. Almost as bad as the guy Sprink Sprinkler i saw running around. Lets try and keep it fantasy oriented in the future.

-Cyprion

[Edited on 7-3-2003 by Cyprion]

[Friendlly Sheruman]

since you obviously dont know me, what the hell does it matter to you what my name is. i doubt you need to really start talking names. I have been here awhile and if you dont like my name i really dont give a damn. think of something better to complain about!

[Edited on 7-3-2003 by Friendlly Sheruman]

[Parkbandit]

Please... everyone has the tools necessary to deal with the vultures. Close your groups. Put them on your befriend list under a cold demeanor. Unlink when they attempt to raise you.

Badda bing.

I play a cleric that is able to fog and he goes out for people he doesn't know as well between hunts. Does that make him a vulture?

[Miss Chica]

Just a quick response, firstly from a personal point of view, I worked really hard and it took a long time for me to learn both fogging spells, why shouldnt I use them whenever I want? It's the same with Alana, Skyfawn and Keemac, its not like their causing any harm. If im dead, im just thankfull somebody cares enough to rescue me, they dont have to do it, they chose to, because they want to help people.
As for them vulturing, Skyfawn and Keemac arnt around much, and the few times ive fogged to the same body as one of them, ive never seen them vulture it. As for Alana, a couple of days ago I saw her rescue at least three bodies and leave them for younger clerics to raise.
If you only want certain people to rescue you, heal you or raise you then tell them. Recently, somebody informed my charecter that he didnt want her to heal him etc, so I dont, simple as that.
At the end of the day, you'd be moaning if you decayed, and you moan if your rescued, its a lose lose situation.

[Morstanya]

There is a vulture in town, but it's not Alanamarie from what I've seen. Like other's mentioned, I've seen her fog in someone and then have a younger priest raise. If anything, that's anti-vulturing.

In regards to Keemac and Skyfawn, there are a lot of people that don't get out and interact as much as they did in the past. That's just the way of it.

In regards to level caps, in GS4 you will be able to increase your skills past the cap, but not your levels. So there is a point to increasing your skill.

As far as this age old debate about fogging versus those that run out to get someone goes... I would like to see more foggers announcing that they have someone. It is a tad rude to let someone continue searching all about for a body that is safely in town. That has happened to me as much as anyone, though I can't say there is more than one chronic offender at this time (who's name I won't mention but I bet most of you know who I mean).

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Tayre
I can understand the frustration in that, I suppose. But until you learn to fog, I really don't see how you can complain about having to walk around. We all did that, at one point. (We meaning foggers.)

Umm, actually, Cacalia CAN fog..but after fogging to them, then fogging back..I have no mana for healing down wounds. Hince the walking. Besides, they are dead..and if I can get from Icemule to landing in under 5 min (sans script) I can get to anywhere in icemule before their 13 or so mins is up.

-Adredrin

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Friendlly Sheruman
well false statements
#1 that Keemac is a vulturer
come now he is never around and when he is he saves maybe 3 people, before you accuse someone of Vulturing at least know what the hell you are talking about!
#2 Skyfawn and Alanamarie not vultures: just rescue alot of people, maybe if you would stop to pay attention you might notice what really is going on, Sky only heals when their isnt another for one and for 2 Alanamarie gives at least 60 percent of the people she does rescue away to be raised:: So before you go SLANDERING peoples names learn the facts if they are guilty of anything it is helping people in Mule.. So if you rather everyone rot waiting for your punk arse to walk to them then you know what that can happen too. They do fog alot of people in i will give you that, but they do it and then give them up to others.. So like i said before talk to them first for crying out loud.


again yers truly
Vulturing Friendlly

Yesh..There is many reasons why I started this thread. I never once claimed them to be vultures..I was simply stating they pratice poor fogging/saving habbits. Everywhere else I go, They call out over the amunet/voln "Going to get such and such", "Is such n such saved?", "did someone get such n such yet?" etc etc..

As for giving heals away..I've sat in voln as Cacalia for 2 or 3 hours, watching her heal everything that came in with a wound. Now some asked her outloud..and some, I'm sure asked her in whispers. I'm not saying she vultured them, I'm saying that she does not share near as much as people think she does.

Hell, I got a trap victim a few days ago..class 3 wounds over 90 % of her body. I fried offa the first 4 to 5 wounds, then I called someone else in. Does that make me high and mighty? Nope, but it sure makes the other healers in the area like me.

There is a fine difference between being extreamly helpful, and being annoyingly helpful. I prefer someone who is being really helpful (as in asking if someone is/has been saved once or twice..if no responce, fog) then doing a "robo fog/heal" thing that happens a lot in Icemule.

-Adredrin/Cacalia

[Sumone]

Originally posted by Ilvane
There was a time that Skyfawn and Keemac roleplayed a lot. I haven't been around Mule much lately, so this has changed
-A

I think it all depends on who is accessing the account at the time. There are occasions when we RP with Keemac and have a great time. Then there are times he picks up a different speech pattern (if he bothers to speak at all) and attitude all together. He goes from the tolerant cleric who goes back and forth with us to kill on site without so much as saying a word with the possible exception of "That's for my daughter/wife/etc."

Of course Skyfawn still RPs wonderfully. Our personal favorite is:

Skyfawn says, "You notice Sumone reach into your pockets and remove 25 silvers."

Copy and paste always makes for excellent roleplay!

[Weedmage Princess]

Originally posted by Sumone

Skyfawn says, "You notice Sumone reach into your pockets and remove 25 silvers."

Copy and paste always makes for excellent roleplay!

That is so LAME :thumbsdown:
That's right up there with the actions in the spoken-sentences. Guess this person forgot how to RP, doesn't bother, or isn't the same person.

[Khelddar]

Heh, Alana doesn't vulture and yes she has a bad habit of not saying she's getting corpses tho she DOES say when she has them safe. But that is only if her actual mundane is there. As far as the other two, y'all should know already the deal with that. I'm indifferent with them, wether they heal me or not is of no concern of mine. I always thank and tip the one who helps me, regardless of who it is. But if it truly bothers you to be helpless when they're doing their rescue/healing sprees. Go hunt or be there when they are not. Either way don't ever put all 3 on the same wave length, I have individual and mutual respect for each of them. Sadly not all at the same level but don't ever judge them as one. And lastly, we all have bad days. If you can't understand that, then perhaps return when you get past puberty. Latez.

[Ilvane]

When we were younger in Icemule(this is back 5 or so years ago) Sky and my bard hid from Thurfel when he was burning down the town the first time. She was the same training as my bard at the time, and she surpassed me soon after.:grin: But she had fun with it, and even tried to get involved the Thurfel quest, but didn't enjoy it much(I gathered). She also is very sweet to Ilvane, since she took care of her Icemule, since her parents were so far away. So no, nothing bad for me to say about her.

I hope that she is the same person, but like I said before, I haven't been in the game much to really know, lately.

-A

[Bobmuhthol]

Does that mean Alanamarie isn't a wizard? I'm lost here. I could've sworn she used invisibility and boil on the boulder a while back. Hunts in the Rift..is a High Lady..I dunno. I think you're all crazy.

[Trinitis]

Hmm..and people wonder why I have problems with Alanamarie..

Myrefalcon: "anyone around whos opening plane 5 boxes this evening?"
Crovenant: "haha"
You: "Plane five? Since when did you hunt Myre?"
Myrefalcon: "everyone gets bored and hunts from time to time"
Alanamarie: "why dont you shove it out your backside Adredrin"
You: "Hrm..and who was talking to you Alana?"
Crovenant: "i think ya would be lucky find a picker in landing for those at tis time"
Alanamarie: "dont care if you do ya pompus arse"
Dainslef: "Ahh shush."
You: "Then keep your thoughts and comments to yourself."

Heh.

-Adredrin

[Ilvane]

Whew, she was in a good mood..heh.

Maybe her husband is rubbing off on her! ;)

-A

[Belthania Pogrom]

Can't we all just get a damn long!!!!!

[Captain Amby]

that would be boring, Belthy!