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Anebriated
09-26-2007, 06:51 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070926&content_id=2231076&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Bonds' 756 ball to be marked
09/26/2007 9:08 AM ET
By Mark Newman / MLB.com

Citing the "passion" of baseball fans who voted online, fashion designer Marc Ecko revealed Wednesday morning that a big asterisk will be branded onto the ball Barry Bonds hit on Aug. 7 for his record 756th homer and that it will be presented that way to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum.

Ecko made a successful auction bid of $752,467 earlier this month for the ball, and he revealed Wednesday morning on NBC's "Today" show that more than 10 million votes were counted on his Web site and "Brand It" was the clear winner with nearly half the vote over "Bestow It" and "Banish It."

"Ten million votes -- the people, obviously, in the passion of their response, tell us baseball is alive and well," Ecko said. "This, to me, was about this great public discourse. The relationship between spectator and player is one of the greatest that defines American history."

These, according to Ecko, were the final results:

Option A: "Bestow it intact to Cooperstown" drew 34 percent of the votes.

Option B: "Permanently brand the ball with an asterisk before sending it to Cooperstown" drew 47 percent.

Option C: "Launch it into space forever" drew 19 percent.

"We're going to have to find a different artifact to send up to space," Ecko said in making the announcement. "Banish was 19 percent, so 80 percent of Americans wanted this ball on Earth, and it will go to the Hall of Fame with an asterisk."

Dale Petroskey, president of the Hall of Fame, said the institution is "more than happy" to receive the ball, however it is presented. It will be displayed there for fans that make the year-round pilgrimages to Cooperstown in upstate New York.

"Since the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum first opened in 1939, the generosity of players, teams and fans, like Marc Ecko, has made it possible to preserve baseball history in Cooperstown," Petroskey said. "Every one of the nearly 35,000 artifacts in our collection has been donated.

"We're grateful to Marc for donating this baseball, which represents one of the game's most historic records. Baseball belongs to the fans -- it always has and always will. The asterisk represents the voice of the fans at this moment in time. The level of interest reflects the strong bond between baseball and American culture. Our responsibility as a history museum is to present every story in proper context, and this ball allows us to do that."

Petroskey said on "Today" that this whole subject represents "an intersection of a couple of deeply held American values. First, innocent until proven guilty. The other is fair play. People want to know this record was gotten on an even playing field."

Bonds, for his part, said the options "don't weigh anything. In baseball that number [756] stands."

"He's stupid. He's an idiot," Bonds told the San Francisco Chronicle. "He spent $750,000 on the ball and that's what he's doing with it? What he's doing is stupid."

"Today" co-host Matt Lauer asked Ecko if he was offended by those comments.

"Not really," Ecko said. "I've been called worse, for sure."

In a subsequent news release issued by his company, Ecko elaborated on the results:

"The fans have spoken and the asterisk will forever be part of the history of this ball. It is a reflection of fans' sentiments and will be preserved by the Hall of Fame in this manner. This was never about the record. I saw the purchase of the ball as an opportunity to open a national conversation using new media -- the Internet, blogs, videos -- to allow America's oldest sport to have America's most modern conversation. The people should be the arbiters of what is historically significant about this artifact. The opportunities for expression, and our participation in the public square, are endless.

"We are gratified to have the Hall of Fame's support in this effort. Its curatorial staff is working with us to carry out the popular vote while preserving the ball. Being in the Hall of Fame will ensure that future generations can read about, reflect on and keep the discourse of this moment alive."

Bonds' milestone baseballs have tended to take adventurous paths after leaving the field of play. The 756 ball was just the latest example. In 2001, when Bonds set the single-season record for home runs, his 73rd blast also found controversy.

Video showed that it first nestled into the glove of Alex Popov, but Patrick Hayashi is the person who emerged from the ensuing scrum with that ball and was ushered downstairs by Giants security at AT&T (then Pac Bell) Park. Nearly two years later, Judge Kevin McCarthy of San Francisco Superior Court ruled that the 73 ball be sold and proceeds be split equally among the two fans. It was then auctioned for what was considered at the time a shockingly low $450,000 to the winning bidder, comic book impresario Todd McFarlane -- who had paid $3 million for Mark McGwire's 70th-homer ball struck in the 1998 season.

On May 28, 2006, Bonds passed Babe Ruth for No. 2 on the all-time list with his 715th homer. Giants fan Andrew Morbitzer came away with that ball while he was standing in a concession line, and he auctioned it on eBay for $220,100 to an anonymous fan. It exceeded experts' predictions, considering the controversy that was forming fast during Bonds' chase. Morbitzer said he planned to donate 10 percent of the proceeds to the charity Big Brothers and Big Sisters of America.

The 756 ball is about to be branded with an asterisk and presented to the public that way at the Hall of Fame. The records are official, but the people have taken matters into their own hands on this one.

This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Anebriated
09-26-2007, 06:54 PM
Im a moron, that should read 756...

Bobmuhthol
09-26-2007, 06:58 PM
In terms of baseball history, this is pretty f'ing major. It'll still be a big deal years from now when new generations learn about it.

Makkah
09-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Shut up.

Sean
09-26-2007, 08:46 PM
He's a douche bag. Ecko that is.

Skeeter
09-26-2007, 09:04 PM
Does look pretty embarassing for old Bud.

senorgordoburro
09-26-2007, 10:09 PM
People need to get over this, he's never been convicted of shit. Also, with the exception to football, I think professional athletes should be able to take steroids. All they are going to do is destroy their bodies from the inside, but it will make the sports more fun to watch. They get paid the big bucks to make big plays, if I wanted to watch and bunch of sissies hit a ball with a stick I'd watch little league for free, but if I am going to pay, I want a damn good show. And football players should not be allowed to do this though because those guys are big enough as it is, and would only lead to more serious injuries.

Seran
09-26-2007, 10:28 PM
I'd have branded it with a syringe, at least then anyone who saw it would immediately think of bonds.

Bobmuhthol
09-26-2007, 10:29 PM
<<I think professional athletes should be able to take steroids.>>

Lawmakers don't.

senorgordoburro
09-26-2007, 10:34 PM
Those lawmakers think that it is alright to sue someone over spilt coffee though......

senorgordoburro
09-26-2007, 10:36 PM
I also think that it should be up to the fans of the sport as to what the athletes should be able to do, just like how the voters choose there political representatives, the ticket holders get to vote on the rules. They are the one paying there ridiculous salaries.

Bobmuhthol
09-26-2007, 10:42 PM
<<Those lawmakers think that it is alright to sue someone over spilt coffee though......>>

Have you ever actually reviewed any of those cases in a legal context?

<<I also think that it should be up to the fans of the sport as to what the athletes should be able to do>>

The sport's success relies on its fans, but there is always an excess. Professional sports are in no way run by the fans, nor should they be.

<<just like how the voters choose there political representatives, the ticket holders get to vote on the rules.>>

Businesses aren't a democracy. It's very, very difficult to persuasively make the argument that the United States government is analogous to Major League Baseball.

<<They are the one paying there ridiculous salaries.>>

Under this argument, it's implied (whether intentional or not) that only those who contribute to professional sports franchises' profits should be able to have a say (this is true of the government as well: everyone pays taxes). I don't know how good an idea that is.

Anebriated
09-26-2007, 11:07 PM
I also think that it should be up to the fans of the sport as to what the athletes should be able to do,

Uh, I think that was exactly what happened. Ecko bought the ball and put up a fan poll on his website asking what they wanted to happen to the ball. Just a guess but if the majority of people voted to brand the ball wouldnt you say most fans are against it?

Drew
09-27-2007, 01:13 AM
I voted a little bit ago, asterix all the way baby, that's great.

Anebriated
09-27-2007, 01:31 AM
Thats how I voted too.

Alfster
09-27-2007, 08:42 AM
People need to get over this, he's never been convicted of shit. Also, with the exception to football, I think professional athletes should be able to take steroids. All they are going to do is destroy their bodies from the inside, but it will make the sports more fun to watch. They get paid the big bucks to make big plays, if I wanted to watch and bunch of sissies hit a ball with a stick I'd watch little league for free, but if I am going to pay, I want a damn good show. And football players should not be allowed to do this though because those guys are big enough as it is, and would only lead to more serious injuries.

You earn retard of the month.

Sean of the Thread
09-27-2007, 09:07 AM
Also, with the exception to football, I think professional athletes should be able to take steroids.

Just an FYI football most likely has the highest steroid use.