Question about negative views towards paladins

[Kyrandos]

I've noticed paladins ar enot held in the highest regard - and I would say the fct you can buy paladin characters for dirt cheap further illustrates that idea. I've looked through their spell lists and been told their AS gets higher than any other character in the game - why the negativity concerning them then?

[Silent_Willy]

Because they are the newest class. And playing one is like ez-mode Gemstones.

[Methais]

why the negativity concerning them then?

Because bubble hearth is gay.

[Latrinsorm]

AS isn't that important.

They're in essence less durable warriors with a few parlor tricks.

[Cademus]

They have only 1 viable path... and they are terribly boring. More or less same deal/new messaging.

[Kyrandos]

They have only 1 viable path... and they are terribly boring. More or less same deal/new messaging.

What do you mean by 1 viable path?

[TheEschaton]

There's only one way to really train paladins. Unlike other classes, it's much harder to be a mutant paladin.

[Fallen]

Post cap, though, I imagine they can outclass a warrior due to cranking up their spells and lores.

[Kyrandos]

There's only one way to really train paladins. Unlike other classes, it's much harder to be a mutant paladin.

Hmm.....

Sword and Board, Pole arm, and I saw a ranged once... was wierd.

I am pole arm, myself.

[Fallen]

Sword and board is the way to go for a Paladin due to the increased blocking spell.

[Stuck up Elf]

Sword (or Blunt) and board is mutant now.

TWC brawler is the new black.

[Kyrandos]

Sword (or Blunt) and board is mutant now.

TWC brawler is the new black.

Are you serious? Odd!

[Warriorbird]

http://www.geekconclave.org/RPG_Motivational/paladins%20self-righteous.jpg

[Stanley Burrell]

http://www.geekconclave.org/RPG_Motivational/paladins%20self-righteous.jpg

Oh. Snap. :lol2:

[Celephais]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Goeringcaptivity.jpg/300px-Goeringcaptivity.jpg
Hermann Goring was given the title Paladin...

Göring was the highest figure in the Nazi Hierarchy who had authorized on paper the "final solution of the Jewish Question"
And that's why everyone hates Paladins.

[Latrinsorm]

Post cap, though, I imagine they can outclass a warrior due to cranking up their spells and lores.It turns out no, because even in the far postcap limit paladins can only get 200 ranks of lore. If they could have unlimited lores (and no spell penalty to redux), then yes. We had a thread about this a little while ago, let me find it...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=26188

[Kyrandos]

I'm contemplating how TWC brawling could be any good over, say, polearms. The DS should be about the same (or lack thereof), and you do not have the benefit of crit hunting. With a polearm, stuff drops withn a few blows. I've never played a brawling character however, and the last time I played brawling was a skill you trained for the icemule tavern, not to hunt.

[Celephais]

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jul2006/WoolCap.jpg
(He's pulling the wool over your eyes)

[Kyrandos]

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jul2006/WoolCap.jpg
(He's pulling the wool over your eyes)

I had a feeling, though it would be fun with all the CMANs nowadays.

[Latrinsorm]

I had a feeling, though it would be fun with all the CMANs nowadays.Paladins don't have access to any of the fun brawling maneuvers though. They're all either warrior-only or warrior/monk. Paladins do get cpress though, which is sorta suited to TWC brawlers, I guess.

[Stanley Burrell]

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jul2006/WoolCap.jpg
(He's pulling the wool over your eyes)

Now that...

Is a rolton.

I want one.

[Kyrandos]

What struck me as odd about paladins was someone mentioned not being polearms removed access to our two best cmans, charge and trip. He said it as if you would take both of those cmans, though I cant fathom why you would want two cmans that do the same thing

[Latrinsorm]

Trip is not a best CMAN for anybody. Charge is pretty rad though.

The advantage to going polearms with a paladin is you don't obviate shield use; one thing at which a paladin is halfway decent.

[Kyrandos]

Trip is not a best CMAN for anybody. Charge is pretty rad though.

The advantage to going polearms with a paladin is you don't obviate shield use; one thing at which a paladin is halfway decent.

Really? I assume you are speaking of the spell which adds a DF percentage? It works with polearms?

[Hips]

*huge image*

I swear I know that picture from somewhere... is that a purple dragon knight of Cormyr?

[Doughboy]

Why do they get negative views? Because they get fucking boring. Like really, really boring.

[Latrinsorm]

Really? I assume you are speaking of the spell which adds a DF percentage? It works with polearms?Talking about the block % one: 1609.

[Cademus]

Latrin and I have been through this in serious mechanical detail. The paladin, at post cap (maximum lores) actually comes up shy to a warrior if the warrior is using self cast spirit strike (which by that degree of post cap training can easily use for each strike). Further, the paladin's spell list is truly decieving. At first glance, it looks better but if you really put together the numbers they don't come up any better then the warrior. The warrior imho has better defense, with the same offense as a paladin (don't let the "highest AS in the game" fool you). I recommend playing a warrior and joining voln/acquiring some spells in the spirit circle to mimic a paladin for RP and mech advantage.

[Sean of the Thread]

My paladin is named Bubblyhearth :(

[Makkah]

Why do they get negative views? Because they get fucking boring. Like really, really boring.

Perfectly sums it up in my opinion. I just rerolled my 31 paladin into a warrior because of this and some RP reasons.

[Kyrandos]

Perfectly sums it up in my opinion. I just rerolled my 31 paladin into a warrior because of this and some RP reasons.

It took me ages just to get to 25. I would reroll, but dont feel like spending the next year getting back to that level. Is there seriously some trick to leveling I don't know?

[Alfster]

It took me ages just to get to 25. I would reroll, but dont feel like spending the next year getting back to that level. Is there seriously some trick to leveling I don't know?

You could buy one of another class and stop complaining

[Cademus]

It took me ages just to get to 25. I would reroll, but dont feel like spending the next year getting back to that level. Is there seriously some trick to leveling I don't know?


It should take you about 1 month to get from 1-20 if you play 3-4 hours a day everyday.

There is no trick. Go hunt fry -> Do AG quest if you can -> sit at node...repeat.

[Teavangelical]

I don't know. The first time I looked at the spell list, I scoffed at 1601 and pretty much stopped there. +5 to DS? How lame. 601 is +10 right out of the gate, bitches!

Yeah, kinda short-sighted, but they always just looked boring to me. So I never bothered rolling one up, never have, and keep forgetting they exist.

[Kyrandos]

You could buy one of another class and stop complaining

You have some faggot on your chin. Might want to wipe that off.

[Kyrandos]

It should take you about 1 month to get from 1-20 if you play 3-4 hours a day everyday.

There is no trick. Go hunt fry -> Do AG quest if you can -> sit at node...repeat.

Hmm, Now that I think about it, Maybe you arn't too far off.

[Alfster]

You have some faggot on your chin. Might want to wipe that off.

I'm confused as to how your mental process works...as your logic makes me wonder if you're a closet fag yourself.

You're as fucking retarded as Backlash.

[Kyrandos]

I'm confused as to how your mental process works...as your logic makes me wonder if you're a closet fag yourself.

You're as fucking retarded as Backlash.

My mental process is about as obtuse and convoluted as your conception of the word 'whining'.

You still havn't gotten it. ::makes helpful wiping gestures on his chin::

[Sean of the Thread]

For fucks sake you're an idiot.

[Alfster]

My mental process is about as obtuse and convoluted as your conception of the word 'whining'.

You still havn't gotten it. ::makes helpful wiping gestures on his chin::

You r fun-E!

p.s. I said complaining


It took me ages just to get to 25. I would reroll, but dont feel like spending the next year getting back to that level.

^^ is you complaining

Hai Backlash wannabe!

[CaptContagious]

God I love these boards... its the only place I know where a number of people come to find answers and (should) KNOW that they will get flamed because some of the people that watch these boards have nothing else to do then to prove how big there e-peen is. Thats why you should only pay attention to the helpful replies and laugh at the post from the jackasses that have nothing better to do that show us how unbelievably low there personal self-esteem.

The Facts: Some of very intelligent GS players watch these board and provide a great amount of help to questions that they know the answers of.

You got your answer in this thread.

[CrystalTears]

And bumping this a month later with basically no information accomplished what exactly?

[CaptContagious]

if nothing else then to scratch an itch.

[Sean of the Thread]

DID YOU SEE ME LAY DOWN THE LAWWW!1 I AM THE LAW GIVERRRRRRRR!!!

[Warriorbird]

I say that every day in law school.

[Teavangelical]

I am the greetest! Now I am leaving Earth for no raisin!