This reads like a south park episode [Archive] - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

Drew

09-11-2007, 03:14 PM

I don't because it's against the TOS, but I guess Ganalon never gets slapped down about it. Kranar did post a while back asking us not to do it though, if I remember correctly.

Trouble

09-11-2007, 03:45 PM

at least summarize it for us...

Drew

09-11-2007, 03:48 PM

That I can do

An art teacher removed from the classroom for encouraging pupils not to eat meat vowed Monday not to return to Fox River Grove Middle School until it eliminates milk and all other animal products from the lunch menu.

Dave Warwak, 44, also said he plans to ask the McHenry County state's attorney to file child-endangerment charges against the school district because the school continues to promote milk and other animal products as part of a healthy diet.

CrystalTears

09-11-2007, 04:00 PM

I don't because it's against the TOS, but I guess Ganalon never gets slapped down about it. Kranar did post a while back asking us not to do it though, if I remember correctly.
What's against TOS? Posting the article of a story rather than just linking it? Where did you get that from? Actually we prefer that you post the article with the link because not everyone can visit every link posted.

Skeeter

09-11-2007, 04:01 PM

Milk isn't healthy anymore? Well shit...

CrystalTears

09-11-2007, 04:06 PM

I didn't know Necromancer's name was Dave...

Drew

09-11-2007, 04:08 PM

What's against TOS? Posting the article of a story rather than just linking it? Where did you get that from? Actually we prefer that you post the article with the link because not everyone can visit every link posted.

Because the article is copyrighted, I swear I'm not making this up, Kranar did post at one time or another.

Gan

09-11-2007, 04:10 PM

I don't because it's against the TOS, but I guess Ganalon never gets slapped down about it. Kranar did post a while back asking us not to do it though, if I remember correctly.

Too bad being an idiot isnt... oh wait.

Please post the TOS that posting articles violates.

:banghead:

Celephais

09-11-2007, 04:13 PM

Too bad being an idiot isnt... oh wait.

Please post the TOS that posting articles violates.

:banghead:

(e) upload, post, or otherwise transmit Content that you do not have the right to transmit under any law or contractual or fiduciary relationships.

He is right... but it's not enforced, at all. It's just to cover Kranar's ass.

CrystalTears

09-11-2007, 04:15 PM

Uh, reposting an article with the link isn't submitting anything as if it were your own.

Celephais

09-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Uh, reposting an article with the link isn't submitting anything as if it were your own.
That isn't what the TOS says. It says do not upload/post anything you do not have a legal right to post. Legally we aren't allowed to copy an article and repost it here, doesn't matter if we credit the original or not.

It's like if I were to post the whole harry potter book on these forums and be like "source: real harry potter book". It's copyright infringement :shrug:

Gan

09-11-2007, 04:18 PM

He is right... but it's not enforced, at all. It's just to cover Kranar's ass.

If that were the case then you wouldnt be able to blog or link the story to any other web source period.

I think someone's interpreting the copyright a little on the conservative side.

Bottom line, its an excuse for being lazy.

Numbers

09-11-2007, 04:22 PM

Eesh.

FOX RIVER GROVE, Ill. - A vegan middle school teacher says he's not going back to class until the school stops serving milk and meat.

Dave Warwak has been a teacher at Fox River Grove Middle School for eight years.

The 44-year-old became a vegan in January and believes the school is "feeding poison" to students. He also believes the school's posters featuring milk are wrong.

Warwak says he won't return until the posters are removed. He's looked into filing child-endangerment charges because he claims it's wrong to promote animal products as part of healthy diet.

Warwak says he was asked to leave the school last week because he talked about animal-cruelty issues.

Superintendent Jacqueline Krause says Warwak wasn't fired.

Celephais

09-11-2007, 04:23 PM

If that were the case then you wouldnt be able to blog or link the story to any other web source period.
Linking to a copyrighted source is fine, it's re-hosting it that's an issue.

I think someone's interpreting the copyright a little on the conservative side.

Bottom line, its an excuse for being lazy.
I agree it certainly is just an excuse, all of my articles I repost, but I'm almost 1000% positive that legally we're not allowed to re-iterate the article, especially in its entirety. I think quoting portions is okay, but entire article re-hosting of copyrighted material is illegal. It would take a cease and desist before anything bad happened and it's extremely far fetched... again I really don't care, just saying technically he's right, but technically being right when you look like a monsterous tool isn't worth it.

Drew

09-11-2007, 04:27 PM

Celephais

09-11-2007, 04:29 PM

I didn't realize not quoting the entire article made me look like a monstrous tool. I'm used to reading FARK where it's just a little headline and you click on pretty much every article to see if you want to read it.
Fark has a rule about not linking to registration articles. You would have been ripped apart harder on fark than you are here :)

And yes... Monsterous MONSTEROUS tool (please don't make me add italics)

Gan

09-11-2007, 04:30 PM

I didn't realize not quoting the entire article made me look like a monstrous tool. I'm used to reading FARK where it's just a little headline and you click on pretty much every article to see if you want to read it.

You have 5,600+ posts. Surely you cant be serious that this is a recent revelation that you cant now post stories, nor should it be a new thing that most readers here prefer to see the story without having to click on a link... Especially those who read the PC from work. Anyone who has co-existed here on these boards would know that.

QUIT ACTING LIKE A NOOB!

CrystalTears

09-11-2007, 04:32 PM

When you post a link that would require me to register to read it, yeah, big tool.

NOW this reads like a South Park episode.

Drew

09-11-2007, 04:41 PM

When you post a link that would require me to register to read it, yeah, big tool.

NOW this reads like a South Park episode.

This requires registration? It works for me without it, I've never registered at this site either. Well definitely my bad then, I hate when people post registration sites.

EDIT: I clicked the link and there's a login or register option, I'm not logged in nor have I registered. Anyway sorry about that again, registration links suck.

Celephais

09-11-2007, 04:43 PM

This requires registration? It works for me without it, I've never registered at this site either. Well definitely my bad then, I hate when people post registration sites.
Did the first reply to your post elude you somehow? I think CTs was the third post to mention registration.

Gan

09-11-2007, 04:44 PM

Did the first reply to your post elude you somehow? I think CTs was the third post to mention registration.

Oh sorry, you must not have read the whole post, it's not secret but you have to be smart to understand it.

:lol:

Latrinsorm

09-11-2007, 04:52 PM

I would think that sites wanting you to register would be much more interested in copyright restrictions, even if not specifically focused on this particular forum.

Isn't this a little bit too much angst anyway, though?

Drew

09-11-2007, 04:59 PM

Did the first reply to your post elude you somehow? I think CTs was the third post to mention registration.

Drew2's post? I just figured he was being a retard. I read your and CTs comments at the same time.

Celephais

09-11-2007, 05:13 PM

Drew2's post? I just figured he was being a retard. I read your and CTs comments at the same time.
Hah! Okay, fair enough.

TheSmooth1

09-11-2007, 05:38 PM

Can I post the juicy(more idiotic)parts?

I am anyway.

Warwak said he was asked to leave school last week because he refused to stop discussing animal-cruelty issues with students. He gave his 8th-grade pupils a book, "The Food Revolution," by John Robbins, subtitled, "How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life and the World."
Because milking a cow is so fucking inhumane.

His efforts have gained praise from animal rights groups.
^Not a good thing.

"I can't really see working there as long as those milk posters are up and they keep feeding poison to the kids," said Warwak
Is crack an animal product?

Dave Warwak, 44, also said he plans to ask the McHenry County state's attorney to file child-endangerment charges against the school district because the school continues to promote milk and other animal products as part of a healthy diet.
ROFL

He's a fucking art teacher, I'm sure he'll be sorely missed.

Also, how do I post in pretty colors? :)

Some Rogue

09-11-2007, 05:38 PM

When you post a link that would require me to register to read it, yeah, big tool.

NOW this reads like a South Park episode.

SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME!

NOW it reads like a South Park episode.

Celephais

09-11-2007, 05:42 PM

Also, how do I post in pretty colors? :)

See the little A with a black bar underneath it and a tiny arrow to the right of it? Highlight your text, click that, select a color, done.

Sean

09-11-2007, 05:49 PM

Celephais

09-11-2007, 05:53 PM

WTF is an art teacher talking to kids about animal cruelty for anyway? I can't find a way to fit it into the curriculum. I hope all of his art supplies are environmentally sound like recycled paper and pencil products or non-animal hair paint brushes.
Something tells me that his art supplies probably are all vegan...

I think his problem is that he doesn't understand how you can't change from without, you have to change from within :cue the more you know music:

Alienating himself like a whackjob is a good way to get nothing done.

TheSmooth1

09-11-2007, 06:02 PM

Paper? Pencils? But what about the poor trees?

TheEschaton

09-11-2007, 07:03 PM

Free content on the internet re-posted somewhere else doesn't break copyright laws if you attribute it to the original source.

The question here is what "free" is. Since I have to pay for the NY Times as a paper, but could get it completely free on the internet, is it free internet material?

I'm not sure this has even been litigated. Who knows. IP Law is pretty brand spanking new and is something I couldn't be bothered with.

Tea & Strumpets

09-12-2007, 09:17 AM

I think we've already proven that most (all) vegans are insane whackjobs.

Celephais

09-12-2007, 10:26 AM

I think we've already proven that most (all) vegans are insane whackjobs.
Yup...

I'm not sure this has even been litigated. Who knows. IP Law is pretty brand spanking new and is something I couldn't be bothered with.
I want to say I have read an article about this actually occuring, I'm not going to bother looking it up, but I want to say it has to do with the fact that you "pay" by looking at the ads on the source site. Since we're copying the content without the ads (or even the value of "foot traffic") that we're stealing it.

Can't say where I got that, but it's in my head for some reason :shrug: don't think I just made it up, but it's possible, my head comes up with some weird stuff sometimes.