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GS4Kaldair
09-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Hey guys, I made a halfling rogue when I started cause they got the best bonus to archery attack, but I cant seem to shoot bows very fast at all.
Cman surge isnt helping because I am still young...
So should I choose a stronger race to shoot faster? Or stay with the higher attack?
and someone was trying to teach me about a council the other day, and mentioned another thing just like it voln, but they didnt know much about voln
is one better than the other for a bow using rogue?
I was told you were all very helpful people, so Thanks in advance!
Warriorbird
09-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Giants and HK work pretty good for archery shooting. Society wise, Voln used to be the suggested way to go for archers using brawling and an open hand...but COL certainly has its benefits.
GS4Kaldair
09-09-2007, 05:18 PM
why would i need brawling as a bow user?
RichardCranium
09-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Brawling would be used for the attacks that Voln bestows on your character.
Surge helps with RT when you've fired your arrow so it's definately something you should keep up with. I don't know the exact bonuses Voln gives for strengths within archery, but I do know that the Council Of Light gives excellent DS and being a halfling you might be able to keep the spirit up per hunt that Sign Of Shields will give.
I don't know enough about Halflings to say anymore though. But good luck.
CrystalTears
09-09-2007, 05:45 PM
What is your RT when you're aiming and when you're not? What kind of bow are you using?
Warriorbird
09-09-2007, 05:51 PM
You don't NEED brawling...it's just a second attack that can hit puncture immunes that doesn't require you disarming yourself or screwing your defense.
Is there any bonus to DS from having one hand open from archery through Brawling?
Warriorbird
09-09-2007, 05:58 PM
None any more.
fallenSaint
09-09-2007, 06:03 PM
For starts if your looking to pick a race based on stats and not for roleplay Halfling probably isnt the preferred method for your setup.
A stronger race that can fire the bow's faster is goin to be a better goal for you since your already getting the bolt AS in the first place.
As far as society again if your not aiming for roleplay CoL is going to give you more boost to your attack and defense than Voln would.
Carl Spackler
09-09-2007, 06:45 PM
go human if you can't decide... really can't go wrong with it
GS4Kaldair
09-09-2007, 06:51 PM
You fire a wooden arrow at a sea nymph!
AS: +70 vs DS: -13 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +37 = +145
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Strike pierces upper arm!
The sea nymph falls to the ground and dies.
Bad angle. The wooden arrow fails to stick in a sea nymph.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>l
You've gained 1 physical training point.
(To use these new points, type GOALS and adjust your skills.)
I had a short bow I got for free to start with. Guy said I should upgrade though, so I went and bought this and a longbow from the archery guy. The longbow was even slower though.
This is after the guy told me how to redo my stats and train right, I wish I could recall his name. I haven't seen him since last week though.
But I got rid of cmans and lost surge cause it wasnt doing much anyways.
This is what the new guy looks like
Name: Kaldair Race: Halfling Profession: Rogue (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 3941 Level: 1
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (10) ... 100 (10)
Constitution (CON): 90 (30) ... 90 (30)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 21 (-19) ... 21 (-19)
Aura (AUR): 70 (5) ... 70 (5)
Logic (LOG): 21 (-9) ... 21 (-9)
Intuition (INT): 21 (-4) ... 21 (-4)
Wisdom (WIS): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Influence (INF): 70 (5) ... 70 (5)
Mana: 3 Silver: 0
Kaldair (at level 1), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Ranged Weapons.....................| 30 6
Physical Fitness...................| 30 6
Dodging............................| 45 9
Perception.........................| 45 9
Training Points: 23 Phy 41 Mnt
I think I had some climbing and swimming, but I was told I didn't need them yet.
Anyhow I was just wondering if I should swap to a giant or something to fire faster. If it was worth it. So far from what I have read, it seems like I might look into it more.
CrystalTears
09-09-2007, 06:56 PM
Yeah if you're not choosing a race for roleplaying purposes, may as well go giant or human.
GS4Kaldair
09-09-2007, 06:59 PM
well i was choosing my race more for the hunting ability than anything
didnt figure i had to choose a certain race to roleplay with
and i want to be able to steal at some point.. when do rogues get good at that?
GS4Kaldair
09-09-2007, 07:01 PM
this doesnt really fit here, but since i got people paying attention might as well not make another page
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Great Lord Kelton just arrived.
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Great Lord Kelton just went south.
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Roxanna heads over to the Rolling Thrak Table.
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Bludragoo's group just arrived.
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ERROR
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[Raging Thrak Inn, Dining Room]
Loud and abusive noises emanate from behind the swinging kitchen doors, much to the laughing delight of some of the customers, and to the chagrin of others. Tapestries hanging from the walls depict soothing idyllic wildlife scenes. Hard wooden tables and chairs are placed evenly, allowing enough space for the cook and wait servants to pass. You also see the Bludragoo disk, a screech owl, a cozy nook and some inviting tables.
Also here: Rakan, Bludragoo
Obvious exits: south, southwest
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Rakan nods.
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Alfador waves at Bludragoo and invites him and his group to come sit at his table.
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Bludragoo and his group head over to the Kittens and Thraks Table.
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A young gnome busboy scurries past you with an empty tray and a wet cloth. He quickly cleans one of the cluttered tables and then hustles back to the kitchen.
Whats the error message for? I wasnt doing anything.. just standing there waiting for a table
TheSmooth1
09-09-2007, 07:19 PM
If you're looking for a character with no obvious flaws, make a sylvan. You get a +10 dexterity bonus, which is more AS, but the discipline penalty won't help the hell that is stunmanuevers.
Unless you have a death wish, don't steal until at least title. Even with perfect conditions, it's not much fun till then.
Even at title, only steal in crowded areas and don't steal from rogues or rangers. The occasional warrior will train in perception as well.
Also, might want to just use a 2he in rats or something. Not worth the effort to use archery at such a low level.
RichardCranium
09-09-2007, 07:50 PM
Whats the error message for? I wasnt doing anything.. just standing there waiting for a table
Log out and back in, it will disappear. It happens whenever you reroll a character in the character manager but keep the same name. It has something to do with the login key I would imagine.
RichardCranium
09-09-2007, 07:52 PM
If you're looking for a character with no obvious flaws, make a sylvan.
Scintillion would approve.
CaptContagious
09-11-2007, 07:15 AM
and please find the guy that helped you retrain so that I can personally hit him in the head with a tack hammer for being a retard...
Name: Kaldair Race: Halfling Profession: Rogue (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 3941 Level: 1 <--------- level 1?
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (10) ... 100 (10) <----- This should not be maxed out
Constitution (CON): 90 (30) ... 90 (30)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (40) ... 100 (40) <----- This should not be maxed out
Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35) <----- This should not be maxed out
Discipline (DIS): 21 (-19) ... 21 (-19) <--- that is insane
Aura (AUR): 70 (5) ... 70 (5)
Logic (LOG): 21 (-9) ... 21 (-9) <--- that is insane
Intuition (INT): 21 (-4) ... 21 (-4)
Wisdom (WIS): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Influence (INF): 70 (5) ... 70 (5)
Mana: 3 Silver: 0
Kaldair (at level 1), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Ranged Weapons.....................| 30 6
Physical Fitness...................| 30 6
Dodging............................| 45 9
Perception.........................| 45 9
Training Points: 23 Phy 41 Mnt
no stalking/hiding? No ambushing for Ranged AS? No Sniping? gonna need to 2x in picking pockets from creation if you wanna be any good at it.
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