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You can't go there.
>go doo
[Spider Temple, Central Chamber]
You notice the Ylisa disk, a short sword, a reinforced shield, a black basalt door and a marble door.
Also here: Ylisa
Obvious exits: northeast, southeast
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Ylisa just went through a black basalt door.
>go second doo
[Spider Temple, Leg of Acolytes]
You notice an Arachne priest and a marble door.
Obvious exits: west
>incant 410
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Wave...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at an Arachne priest.
[Spell Hindrance for some sleek black elven infantry scalemail is 7% with current Armor Use skill, d100= 7]
Your armor prevents the spell from working correctly.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)
>stance def
hide
Cast Round Time in effect: Setting stance to guarded.
>Roundtime: 2 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
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Ylisa just came through a marble door.
>stance off
You are now in an offensive stance.
>cman silent p
You quickly leap from hiding to deliver your attack!
You swing an onyx-hilted invar claidhmore at an Arachne priest!
AS: +246 vs DS: +189 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +96 = +184
... and hit for 98 points of damage!
Awesome shot collapses a lung!
The Arachne priest is stunned!
You retreat back into the shadows.
Roundtime: 6 sec.
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Ylisa chants a reverent litany and clasps her hands while tightly focusing her thoughts...
>his
You hiss.
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Ylisa channels at an Arachne priest.
A single dim, golden globe springs to life in Ylisa's left hand. The globe leaps from Ylisa's left hand and dances through the air toward an Arachne priest!
CS: +271 - TD: +102 + CvA: +20 + d100: +40 == +229
Warding failed!
The orb squarely impacts an Arachne priest, discharging the energy over his entire being for 98 points of damage!
The energy pulses for an additional 68 points of damage ...
The Arachne priest slumps to the ground and dies.
The opalescent aura fades from around an Arachne priest.
The deep blue glow leaves an Arachne priest.
A white glow rushes away from an Arachne priest.
The brilliant aura fades away from an Arachne priest.
An Arachne priest seems slightly different.
A subtle light fades from an Arachne priest's eyes.
An Arachne priest seems hesitant.
... the remaining energy dissipates harmlessly from the priest's corpse.
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You begin to lose touch with your internal sources of strength.
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Ylisa raises an eyebrow.
>'oh lovely
Speaking in Elven, you say, "Oh lovely."
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Ylisa says, "Get a disk."
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Ylisa searches an Arachne priest.
The Arachne priest's flesh begins to bubble and form large welts from which spiders burst out scurrying everywhere. The Arachne priest and its spidersilk robes disintegrate and blow away in wisps of grey smoke.
>l yl
You see Ylisa Jerril the Inquisitor.
She appears to be a Human from Dragach.
She appears to be ancient. She has golden eyes and fair skin. She has long, coarse raven-hued hair cascading in graceful, crimson-tipped layers to either of her shoulders.
She has a black gate and key tattoo on her finger.
She has old battle scars on her left arm, old battle scars on her left leg, and old battle scars on her right arm.
She is holding a ruby-capped villswood runestaff in her right hand.
She is wearing a crystal friendship anklet, a white satin wrap-around skirt, an etched white gold wedding band, an inlaid gold ring, some ancient dark elven war armor edged with gleaming silver, a gold trimmed black silk satchel, a leather belted herb satchel of bundled black gauze, a whimsical monkey charm, an exquisite cerulean-blue veil gown trimmed with tiny silver bells below the fitted empire bodice, some black spidersilk stockings, a tree bark amulet, an elaborate knotwork symbol, and a delicate invar diadem adorned with a tiny dangling charm depicting the three lunar phases.
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Ylisa just went west.
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unconcerned1
08-21-2007, 04:56 PM
Smoke her, man.
Jolena
08-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Whatever. Its common for hiders to use disks and if you don't, then this sometimes happens. :shrug:
TheEschaton
08-21-2007, 05:00 PM
you murder her!
though if I was in the Landing, with a rogue, I'd hunt without a disk just to invoke that response prior to her bloody death.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
Smoke her, man.
CS of 271, IIRC, is way too high for Spider Temple...
Biggnife had like less than 175 at 25, and that was with 1612.
TheEschaton
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
And she walked in before he attacked, and still prepped, Jolena.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
well i would have said the same thing
as much as I would be angry in your case as well, you really cant expect people to come into a room and wait for a rogue to announce themselves before commencing an attack
use a disk and then you will have a reason to kill the person if they dont stop when seeing it - just make sure the disk has caught up to you in that room
Alfster
08-21-2007, 05:01 PM
Whatever. Its common for hiders to use disks and if you don't, then this sometimes happens. :shrug:
still doesn't mean she has to be a bitch about it.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:02 PM
<<Whatever. Its common for hiders to use disks and if you don't, then this sometimes happens.>>
I'm sorry, but are you illiterate? She walked in, he attacked it, she prepared her spell, he hissed, she cast. There's no room for defending her: she had plenty of opportunity to not be retarded.
Jolena
08-21-2007, 05:03 PM
And she walked in before he attacked, and still prepped, Jolena.
Oh that's true, I just realized that. I thought she didn't come in until AFTER he did the silentstrike. Well, its a possibility she was running a channeling script and such, but I dunno. That's kind of iffy. Either way, getting pissy about it happening once (assuming this was the only time where she had warning he was there) seems odd. Also, he still needs a disk. :p
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:03 PM
And she walked in before he attacked, and still prepped, Jolena.
Your kidding me right? The point between her walking in and her casting COULD have been a second or less total time. Now, if he wants to come back and say there was more time involved.. whatever. But it can also depend on peoples connection speeds.
If you get angry about that type of thing, either prepare to kill and be killed more often in CvC, or use a disk and prevent it.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:04 PM
<<The point between her walking in and her casting COULD have been a second or less total time.>>
She obviously didn't use INCANT or else the prep/cast would have occurred at the same time. She's fucking stupid if she can't stop herself from casting after watching an attack.
unconcerned1
08-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Whatever. Its common for hiders to use disks and if you don't, then this sometimes happens. :shrug:
It was the whole rude/abrupt 'get a disk' and subsequent search of the kill, followed by her immediate exit that Ash took offense with.
CS or no CS I'd snatch a blue crystal and take my chances.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:05 PM
Oh she was a bitch about it though.. Im not saying she was right. But she might not really be at fault for taking the kill.
Jolena
08-21-2007, 05:05 PM
still doesn't mean she has to be a bitch about it.
Kind of sensitive of you to think that this is being a bitch:
Ylisa raises an eyebrow.
>'oh lovely
Speaking in Elven, you say, "Oh lovely."
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Ylisa says, "Get a disk."
She could have apologized I guess, but even without it I don't think its being bitchy to say "Get a disk" without another comment and leave. Its abrupt yes, but not bitchy.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:06 PM
<<The point between her walking in and her casting COULD have been a second or less total time.>>
She obviously didn't use INCANT or else the prep/cast would have occurred at the same time. She's fucking stupid if she can't stop herself from casting after watching an attack.
I use prep, cast in my macros. You are able to stop a macro once you have initiated it Bob? Please teach me!
TheSmooth1
08-21-2007, 05:06 PM
<<The point between her walking in and her casting COULD have been a second or less total time.>>
She obviously didn't use INCANT or else the prep/cast would have occurred at the same time. She's fucking stupid if she can't stop herself from casting after watching an attack.
Ever heard of a macro?
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:06 PM
Way to quote one part, which out of context doesn't indicate being a bitch. Let me requote it for you.
Ylisa says, "Get a disk."
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Ylisa searches an Arachne priest.
The Arachne priest's flesh begins to bubble and form large welts from which spiders burst out scurrying everywhere. The Arachne priest and its spidersilk robes disintegrate and blow away in wisps of grey smoke.
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Ylisa just went west.
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Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:07 PM
If you're playing with slow as fuck macros, then you don't deserve to play and/or you should take the blame when you fuck up.
She knew I was there. There was a good few seconds before she decided to kill it anyway.
I assumed she was scripting becouse she's higher level than my rogue, but the time she stood there shows she wasn't.
Who'd get angry though, AD? She'll just get her head ripped off.
Also don't think having a disk would have helped the situation. She knew I was there in the first place, what difference would a disk make?
Jolena
08-21-2007, 05:08 PM
So, the search itself is what constitutes her being a bitch? :lol: Ooookay then. Sensitive.
TheSmooth1
08-21-2007, 05:08 PM
If you're talking to me, I just quoted the first post I saw.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:08 PM
<<So, the search itself is what constitutes her being a bitch? :lol: Ooookay then. Sensitive.>>
Yeah. That's the only thing that I quoted. Just her searching it. No other lines. Whatever you say.
<<If you're talking to me, I just quoted the first post I saw.>>
No.
TheSmooth1
08-21-2007, 05:09 PM
So you're gonna kill her over one poach. Great.
But seriously, having a disk helps.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:10 PM
To me the bitchiness was in her manner, simply stating it was basically his fault, and not apologizing for it in any way. Like she had a right to the kill just because he was hidden.
And Bob you are a moron. Have you ever hunted in a place where incant macros don't work? I thought not.. get a fucking clue.
Jolena
08-21-2007, 05:10 PM
I'm sorry, but the combination of "Get a disk", searching the creature, and exiting to the west does NOT equate to being a bitch IMO. Obviously, I'm the minority here.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:11 PM
My interpretation of the log convinces me that having a disk would not have helped in that situation. Interestingly enough, the only person that was actually involved in this agrees.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:11 PM
<<And Bob you are a moron. Have you ever hunted in a place where incant macros don't work? I thought not.. get a fucking clue.>>
Dear you,
You don't know how to play GemStone worth a damn.
Fuck yourself,
Bobmuhthol
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:12 PM
I think it would have helped. Even if she knew he was there, she could have felt she would get away with it since he didn't have a disk. If he had a disk there, she would have had no excuse whatsoever, and assuming there was a time delay like he later stated, then she might have rethought her actions before stealing the kill.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:14 PM
<<And Bob you are a moron. Have you ever hunted in a place where incant macros don't work? I thought not.. get a fucking clue.>>
Dear you,
You don't know how to play GemStone worth a damn.
Fuck yourself,
Bobmuhthol
You are a small minded individual aren't you? Go hunt behind the barrier sometime. Try hunting in an area where the creatures can't be cast at. Where you actually have to aim WHICH creature you are casting at, and you have different spells for different creatures.
Now if you tell me you can use an incant command and still target only certain creatures, by all means please let me know how so I can improve on my hunting techniques.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:15 PM
When Ylisa comes here and says, "Hi, I was hunting with macros that for God knows what reason have a multi-second delay in them, sorry for being a complete fucking idiot by doing this but I just have no idea what I'm doing," I'll believe you.
Hunting behind the barrier? THIS IS THE SPIDER TEMPLE. THAT DOESN'T APPLY.
Celephais
08-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Yeah the fact that he hissed between the prep and the cast indicates that it was not a macro... at best a script with a waitfor (which is just stupid).
It's pretty clear she knew he was there and just figured she was already prepped and had an excuse.
The other possibility is she's running a script and it did attack before she could stop it (and it could be purposefully slow/use waitfor so it could be used while afk), and her script would have moved on if it saw a disk.
Haywood J.
08-21-2007, 05:19 PM
You are a small minded individual aren't you? Go hunt behind the barrier sometime. Try hunting in an area where the creatures can't be cast at. Where you actually have to aim WHICH creature you are casting at, and you have different spells for different creatures.
Now if you tell me you can use an incant command and still target only certain creatures, by all means please let me know how so I can improve on my hunting techniques.
Target <critter 1>
Incant spell 1
Target <critter 2>
Incant spell 2
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:19 PM
It applies just as much as your excuse of what she may or may not be using to hunt with. She could be typing by hand, using macros, or scripting. I don't know or care. The argument got sidetracked, and now your backtracking just to find an excuse.
Incant macros aren't the only way to hunt. Whether it may have been the easiest way in this case or not.
And the log itself can't prove how long the interaction took, or what their connections were like.
Wouldnt the method be:
Target <creature>
Incant <spell>
Then re-target the next magically targetable creature.
I find that without psinet (the horror!) I use incant 302 as my primary means of casting with my 30 cleric. In that respect, I target what I want to cast at first, because I always seem to draw a swarm where I hunt, and then incant, attack, incant, attack, etc. Depending on how I want to mix up my magical/physical attacks.
I also have bane channel on so my incant has a little more punch.
Speaking in Elven, you say, "Oh lovely."
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Ylisa says, "Get a disk."
Hahahaha. True.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:19 PM
<<It applies just as much as your excuse of what she may or may not be using to hunt with. She could be typing by hand, using macros, or scripting. I don't know or care. The argument got sidetracked, and now your backtracking just to find an excuse.>>
And you called me a moron?
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 05:21 PM
Target <critter 1>
Incant spell 1
Target <critter 2>
Incant spell 2
I don't use targeting. Either way, wouldn't that take just as long as prep/cast? Unless of course you only cast at one thing at a time, then it might improve things. I tend to cast at each thing just once, if something doesn't die in the first shot, its usually stunned, and I move on to killing/stunning the next in line so it cannot attack me.
Danical
08-21-2007, 05:22 PM
I'm of the opinion she's at fault.
I know I've killed a creature accidentally even after the rogue was exposed. I always try to apologize for the mistake.
However . . .
Once is an event.
Twice is a trend.
Thrice is a pattern.
After the third time I'd smoke her then tell her corpse to get a disk.
Jesus christ. She could have at least said "sorry." :shrug:
TheSmooth1
08-21-2007, 05:30 PM
Maybe she's roleplaying a character who doesn't say sorry.
Celephais
08-21-2007, 05:31 PM
Target <critter 1>
Incant spell 1
Target <critter 2>
Incant spell 2
Problem here is if critter 1 moves out of the room... my experience with this and when you DO NOT want to incant is when you're in the lava flows on teras and there is a nest in the room... Incant will automatically aquire a target if it doesn't have one, if you don't want spell 1 to go off if there is no critter 1, then you don't want to incant it.
Fallen
08-21-2007, 05:46 PM
Maybe she's roleplaying a character who doesn't say sorry. >>
Yeah, honestly. Some characters couldn't give a shit if they poached your kill, especially if they believe you don't have the power to do anything about it. Was it a glib response? Sure. I laughed a little.
She is likely the type that rests sitting down without anything in her hands. Fuck her up.
Amber
08-21-2007, 05:47 PM
To me, the combination of saying "Get a disk.", searching the critter, and exiting the room is pretty bitchy. Even giving her the benefit of the doubt, and assuming she has a slow connection and didn't see he was there before she cast, she obviously knew he was there before she did the searching.
Since she knew he was there before she searched and therefore knew she had poached and still went ahead and searched, I kinda doubt a disk would have done anything to help this situation as I don't think she really cares if she was poaching or not.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:48 PM
<<Some characters couldn't give a shit if they poached your kill, especially if they believe you don't have the power to do anything about it.>>
That's interesting, since characters don't have their own mindsets. It's a reflection on the person.
Fallen
08-21-2007, 05:54 PM
Yes, because no one in the history of gemstone has ever played a character whos personality differed from the players behind them.
Bobmuhthol
08-21-2007, 05:55 PM
Just because your character isn't a carbon copy of you doesn't mean you aren't 100% in control of your character...
Basic idea here: If you play a dickhead character, it means you're obviously very capable of being a dickhead whether you are all the time or not. Expressing this capacity only in GemStone under the pretense of roleplaying is no indication that you aren't, in fact, a dickhead.
Edit 2: It also makes you gay.
Fallen
08-21-2007, 06:02 PM
Well, thanks for your input on the matter, Bob. I'm sure you would be able to make one hell of a dickhead character.
AestheticDeath
08-21-2007, 06:09 PM
hehe
Danical
08-21-2007, 06:53 PM
Didn't Latrin go into great detail about the player/character dilemma?
ThatDamnTep
08-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Yesterday I got killed in the orc invasion in Ta'Vaalor by Nature's Fury.
When I was in the open.
With a disk.
And the weapons I hurl on the ground.
The guy's excuse was "Maybe you should hunt somewhere else."
There really is just no winning sometimes.
This will make twice I've died to other people's spells, once to a kettle, and once to a GM who was pissed no one was dying deciding to kill everyone with lightning. The invading things haven't done squat yet.
I'm really tired of bothering.
Danical
08-21-2007, 07:39 PM
"Maybe you should hunt somewhere else."
Who said that?
ThatDamnTep
08-21-2007, 07:55 PM
This is what happened...
You pull a mithril axe with wing-like blades extending from the wyvern-carved villswood haft gracefully from your fan.
You are now in an offensive stance.
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a mithril axe with wing-like blades extending from the wyvern-carved villswood haft into flight.
You throw a mithril axe at an elder Neartofar orc searcher!
AS: +320 vs DS: +252 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +21 = +120
... and hit for 17 points of damage!
Banged the Neartofar orc searcher's right shin.
That'll raise a good welt.
Glancing blow. Momentum carries a mithril axe with wing-like blades extending from the wyvern-carved villswood haft past an elder Neartofar orc searcher to land nearby.
Roundtime: 4 sec.
R>hide
You are now in a defensive stance.
Roundtime: 2 sec.
You attempt to blend with the surroundings and feel confident that no one has noticed your doing so.
The woodsman sniffs around looking for something.
A Neartofar orc woodsman looks frustrated.
A brutish Neartofar orc tracker lumbers in, muttering to himself.
An elder Neartofar orc searcher mutters a phrase, and as she does, a gust of wind sweeps in and flips her to her feet.
An elder Neartofar orc searcher hobbles in!
The woodsman sniffs around looking for something.
A Neartofar orc woodsman looks frustrated.
Lord Aarx's group just arrived.
The translucent sphere fades from around an elder Neartofar orc searcher.
A dark-fletched arrow flies out of the shadows toward Zoren!
Zoren evades the missile by inches!
The arrow zips past its target to the ground.
A Mistydeep river orc hag trudges in, a weary mask set on her face!
A Mistydeep river orc witch drags herself in, her blood-soaked hair causing her to step carefully!
An elder Neartofar orc searcher kneels momentarily and with a slight flick of her wrist, she causes a small black kettle to appear in her hands. Leaning forward, she places the kettle on the ground. After she stands, she makes several passes over the kettle with her hands, the heat emanating from them bringing the contents to a frothing boil.
An elder Neartofar orc searcher hobbles in!
The heated contents of a small black kettle bubble and spit.
A Mistydeep river orc hag trudges in, a weary mask set on her face!
An elder Neartofar orc searcher hobbles in!
The translucent sphere fades from around a Mistydeep river orc hag.
A brutish Neartofar orc tracker forms mystical patterns with his clawed hands and mutters some unintelligible sounds as his eyes flash with crimson fire.
H>kick kett
You come out of hiding.
As your foot connects with the black kettle, it tips over, splashing the boiling liquid onto your leg.
... 5 points of damage!
Minor burns to right leg. That hurts a bit.
A boiling mass of liquid moves outward from a small black kettle.
A Neartofar orc woodsman is buffeted by the billowing clouds of steam arising from the boiling mass and is knocked to the ground.
... 30 points of damage!
Hot vapors cause reddening of skin on right leg.
A Neartofar orc woodsman is buffeted by the billowing clouds of steam arising from the boiling mass and is knocked to the ground.
An elder Neartofar orc searcher is buffeted by the billowing clouds of steam arising from the boiling mass and is knocked to the ground.
You are buffeted by the billowing clouds of steam arising from the boiling mass, but remain standing.
The translucent sphere fades from around an elder Neartofar orc searcher.
A Mistydeep river orc witch snatches up a mithril axe with wing-like blades extending from the wyvern-carved villswood haft!
Zoren gestures while summoning the spirits of nature to his aid...
Zoren gestures at a brutish Neartofar orc tracker.
Zoren closes his eyes for a moment as he slowly raises his hands to shoulder-level. You hear and feel a resounding low thrumming sound just as enormously overgrown dirge-vaon vines spring up from the cultivated surroundings and flail about chaotically, savagely assailing the area!
The surroundings advance upon an elder Neartofar orc searcher with relentless fury!
So granted I was in hiding when he walked into the room, but my weapon and my disk were in the room, and I was out in the open when he actually cast the spell. However, there were only seven things in the room, three of which were level 10. It didn't really warrant Nature's Fury anyway.
Later, when I was back in Victory Court getting ready to be raised, he was there:
You ask, "Why would you cast Nature's Fury randomly in a room with other people?"
Zoren says, "Its dangerous out there."
Speaking to you, Zoren says, "How could I possibly see you walk in the room whith all that going on...I am sorry m'lady."
You say, "If you don't have control of your magic, don't cast it."
You say, "That's part of having control over the spell. Having...self-control over the spell."
Zoren says, "You should hunt a safer place..."
You say, "I was fine before you came in with your Nature's Fury."
You say, "If I put an axe in someone's head, I wouldn't shrug it off and tell them they shouldn't have been in my way."
Speaking to you, Zoren says, "I said sorry...and Ill pay for a deed.....again..hunt in a safer area."
Zoren grabs Aarx and drags him west.
~Becca, not Tep
JJBummer
08-21-2007, 08:27 PM
A Mistydeep river orc witch snatches up a mithril axe with wing-like blades extending from the wyvern-carved villswood haft!
Did you lose your weapon?
ThatDamnTep
08-21-2007, 08:32 PM
It's from a Kadah bandolier. My macros are set up to grab them before I do pretty much anything, and if something does manage to pick them up I just click on them in Stormfront and the poof, so they never get swung back at me.
I told Khaladon, the item creator about it, and he was like whatever, I'm not in charge of Stormfront, so I consider it a "feature".
I was joking about getting them altered to be all a mithril axe engraved with the words "Hey there's an ambusher in the room, please proceed as usual".
The more it happens, though, the better the idea becomes.
~Becca
Warriorbird
08-21-2007, 08:40 PM
I might've kept playing GS if you could write stuff on stuff.
Ignot
08-21-2007, 10:24 PM
Maybe she's roleplaying a character who doesn't say sorry.
Whisper OOC *name* sorry.
Meges
08-21-2007, 11:05 PM
Wouldnt the method be:
Target <creature>
Incant <spell>
Then re-target the next magically targetable creature.
I find that without psinet (the horror!) I use incant 302 as my primary means of casting with my 30 cleric. In that respect, I target what I want to cast at first, because I always seem to draw a swarm where I hunt, and then incant, attack, incant, attack, etc. Depending on how I want to mix up my magical/physical attacks.
I also have bane channel on so my incant has a little more punch.
I almost always use target in OTF. I leg constructs and as soon as the first one falls, I target the next one and repeat until there are no more to leg. You have to use it if you want to stay on the same critter until you achieve your goal, because there's just too much critter traffic in and out of the room. Kill is too critter random and doesn't allow for aimed shots. In the middle of all that, if seers come in, then I target them and 519 them to either kill them or give me more time to leg the other constructs.
When I use spells, I use target as well. I don't want to be casting 519 at an entering scout when it needs to be on the seer that's ready to cast spirit dispel at me.
So, my point really is that I use 4 sets of macros that all use incant. Stance off, incant (spell), stance def, loot - or similar. I use target manually.
That hunter was indeed being rather rude. You don't kill someone's critter, loot it, then yell (that's the tone I caught from her actions) at the person for not having a disk. He was there, she saw him, and was still rude about the whole ordeal. Maybe if she had of apologized for killing it, THEN suggested a disk it'd be a different story.
Meges
grapedog
08-21-2007, 11:07 PM
The priest was stunned...wtf else needs to be said. Creature stunned, means not alone...
Unless in the 8 years I've been gone, creatures randomly appear in a room, stunned for no apparent reason?
It certainly wasn't stunned by Ylisa's lack of intellect...though maybe it should have been.
Nilandia
08-21-2007, 11:11 PM
It appears to me that Ylisa was using 312 (Divine Retribution), which allows a caster to charge it up for up to 6 seconds to make it more effective. I haven't made extensive use of it with my cleric because she's too low in level to use it on a regular basis, so I don't know if you can choose to use the normal form without praying.
Gretchen
[Edited to add: Ylisa's profile shows her strongest foe killed as a dogmatist. Not exactly difficult for their level, but still way more than the spider temple.]
Shalla
08-21-2007, 11:30 PM
It happens but there is no reason for her to be rude about it. She should NOT have searched it.
Meges
08-21-2007, 11:31 PM
Problem here is if critter 1 moves out of the room... my experience with this and when you DO NOT want to incant is when you're in the lava flows on teras and there is a nest in the room... Incant will automatically aquire a target if it doesn't have one, if you don't want spell 1 to go off if there is no critter 1, then you don't want to incant it.
Using target is a good reason for this really. If the person or critter you're targetting leaves the room, this happens (and you don't have to worry about accidently blasting hunting partners that you recently cast a spell at):
targ x
You are now targeting X.
>inc 504
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Slow...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at X.
CS: +543 - TD: +192 + CvA: +25 + d100: +88 == +464
Warding failed!
X suddenly slows all movements.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>Lady X just went out.
>inc 504
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Slow...
Your spell is ready.
You do not currently have a target.
Meges
Man, I couldn't post this message until I figured out that if you have the characters: T A R X (from the command TARget X, and I had to space it here or I couldn't post) anywhere in the post. What's up with that? I kept on getting a server error.
Akari
08-21-2007, 11:36 PM
keep in mind how quickly things can happen...
410
Voodoo '410' to 'PREPARE 410', 'CAST'.
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Wave...
Your spell is ready.
>
Mykill rushes forward at you with his vultite lance and attempts a charge!
[Roll result: 93 (open d100: 44)]
You deftly avoid the charge.
>
You gesture.
A wave of dark ethereal ripples moves outward from you.
Mykill is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, and is knocked to the ground.
Aralad is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, and is knocked to the ground.
Michaelous is buffeted by the dark ethereal waves, and is knocked to the ground.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
CrystalTears
08-22-2007, 08:47 AM
Timing would mean more if she didn't walk in, see the priest get stunned, then started to chant.
Tea & Strumpets
08-22-2007, 09:15 AM
So, the search itself is what constitutes her being a bitch? :lol: Ooookay then. Sensitive.
I think it's ridiculous that you think ambushers should have a pocket wizard that magically provides a disk every time they want to hunt.
She was clearly trying to be a bitch with her "get a disk" comment followed by searching.
It's not worth explaining to someone why they are clearly an asshole, though. The best thing to do in this situation is to hide at a crossroads and use a stalk macro.
WAITFOR %1
PUT Stalk %1
Then you wait for her to knock something prone, ambush it's head, search it if possible, and advise her to get a disk. Rinse and repeat.
Landrion
08-22-2007, 09:25 AM
I look at it this way. Even the most douschebag inconsiderate weasel acts better when treated nicely. Anyone else where Im hunting is a potential rescuer, unstunner or other help. Usually when someone poached my char or tagged with a AOE or what have you I tried to act like it was no big deal and just walked off. Half the time, people would chase me down to give me the silver/apologize. But, if you scolded them or coughed or something, then that like absolved them (in their mind) of any need to be nice about it - presumably because youre just a jerk (again in their mind) anyway.
In the scheme of things, I had to slaughter thousands of critters. The treasure on any particular one was usually meaningless. Even an uncut diamond was still only about 6k which Id throw away on a sandwich (or other whim). Its the discourtesy or the affront which rankles. If you dont let the affront bother you or at least dont show it, thats one less way for someone to annoy you. Also its one less potential conflict turned into a potential helper or even friend.
Dont worry about it.
No big deal.
It's okay.
Those lines saved me more grief than I can measure.
Celephais
08-22-2007, 10:15 AM
Using target is a good reason for this really. If the person or critter you're targetting leaves the room, this happens (and you don't have to worry about accidently blasting hunting partners that you recently cast a spell at):
targ x
You are now targeting X.
>inc 504
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Slow...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at X.
CS: +543 - TD: +192 + CvA: +25 + d100: +88 == +464
Warding failed!
X suddenly slows all movements.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>Lady X just went out.
>inc 504
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Slow...
Your spell is ready.
You do not currently have a target.
Meges
Man, I couldn't post this message until I figured out that if you have the characters: T A R X (from the command TARget X, and I had to space it here or I couldn't post) anywhere in the post. What's up with that? I kept on getting a server error.
Try this with a creature... it works with players, but not with creatures in the room, your inc 504 will automatically aquire the next creature in the room.
The problem isn't that I'm worried about casting at other players in the room, I'm worried about the wrong spell going to the wrong creature. If that seer moves out of the room (or gets otherwise pasted) you don't want to waste the 519 on a construct, which incant would do. The case of the nests in the lava flows, accidently attacking the nests gets you killed.
Kembal
08-22-2007, 03:30 PM
Gretchen, you can use a non-charging form of 312. It's very weak though.
However, I think it's quite possible that Ylisa did use a charged form of 312, in which case even incanting the spell would create a delay in casting. Her excuse was lame though...she saw the silent strike. Should've just admitted the mistake.
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