Hard Drive upgrade

[Kuyuk]

Looking to buy a new HD, or at least add one to my computer.

I took an old HD from an older computer, but couldnt slave it because the wiring is different on my newest Hard drive...

This is what I got: HDS72808 0PLA380 SCSI Disk Device



It's old, but I dont know if all hard drives have these types of connections now, or if they still use the old style.

Any information about my HD stupidity and advise, would be great.


thanks.

[Celephais]

This is what I got: HDS72808 0PLA380 SCSI Disk Device

for a normal home desktop... ouch.

Do you know if your machine has a SATA (small thin plug) or an IDE connections(ribbon cable, 2" or so thick)?

You don't need to "slave" the drive, I think it's more that you are unable to physically attach it inside the new computer correct? If that's the case you would need to buy a SCSI adapter, which could be expensive (or at least they used to be).

Is it that you're trying to expand your space or access the drive? if you're trying to expand, SCSI drives are historically small (especially if it's old), and a cheap IDE/SATA drive can be found relatively easily (www.slickdeals.net (http://www.slickdeals.net) www.outpost.com (http://www.outpost.com) www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com) www.mwave.com (http://www.mwave.com) www.zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com) should get you going)

What's your current drive list as in the device manager? (if that one you listed is what it is... you'll want to buy a SATA or IDE adapter for about $20)

[Blazing247]

SCSI hard drives need a SCSI interface card. Common HD connections are ATA, IDE, SCSI, and SATA (pretty much the standard now), also for external you have USB and Firewire.

What type of motherboard do you have? Depending on the mobo, you're probably best off going with a new SATA HD, which can be found on closeout all the time for around $50 for 160g+. SATA HD's don't have master/slave switches anymore, and they have a tremendous pipeline (300mb/s).

[Kuyuk]

Small plug thing goes into the HD.

No, it wouldnt fit, but always, there's a way, and I made it fit...even if it couldnt connect.

I have enough space for 5 more hard drives in my tower.

I plan on putting all my shit on the new drive, and reformatting my old one.


On the device manager, it says what I posted, all that jibberish.


If you want me to take a picture of the inside of my tower, I can, and post it.


K.

[Celephais]

they have a tremendous pipeline

That's what she said.

[Kuyuk]

MotherboarD:

AV8 (VIA K8T800P-8237)

MB-ABITAV81.5

[Celephais]

SATA - http://www.cs-electronics.com/images-large/SATA-Signal-Cable-1.jpg

IDE - http://www.dansdata.com/images/p3v/idecables320.jpg

Various SCSI - http://www.chem.umn.edu/services/eshop/pictures/scsi.jpg

What does your board have (current HD), and which is the new drive?

[Celephais]

It looks like your MB has a SATA controller (in addition to the SCSI controller that your current HD is hooked up to), so buy yourself some cheap/huge SATA drives and forget that small SCSI one existed.

500GB - $109 (can be had as low as $90 if you wait and watch slickdeals.net) http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5090665;jsessionid=1Dm6WBYgMn7TfDDlT9XPXA**.node2? site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

400GB - $80 (can be had as low as $70 if you wait) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?ATT=22144423&CMP=AFC-SlickDeals&Item=N82E16822144423


No, it wouldnt fit, but always, there's a way, and I made it fit...even if it couldnt connect.

... You scare me.


ATA, IDE

Blazing... pretty sure these are the same thing... or at least P-ATA uses an IDE connector or other way around or something.

[Kuyuk]

Old drive that's Rigged in but not working: IDE, the one I'm currently using:

CAnt tell ya yet, dont have a screwdriver around to open the case... but I'm 90% sure it's SATA


K.

[Blazing247]

Blazing... pretty sure these are the same thing... or at least P-ATA uses an IDE connector or other way around or something.

You are right, for all intents and purposes they are, and yes they use the same connector.

[Silhouette of Doom]

Oh God you have a fucking VIA.

Edit: IDE and ATA mean the same thing colloquially. Parallel ATA (a retronym because of the emergence of Serial ATA) uses IDE connectors. There's ATA-100 and ATA-133.

[Celephais]

Old drive that's Rigged in but not working: IDE, the one I'm currently using:

CAnt tell ya yet, dont have a screwdriver around to open the case... but I'm 90% sure it's SATA


K.

IDE's (actually most hard drives... some SATA don't) have two plugs, one for the data connection, and another for power. If you're connecting the IDE you want to make it a "Master" not a slave, most of the time it really doesn't matter, but that means you need jumpers set for master, or cable select and the drive on the correct IDE connector (If your cable doesn't tell you which is master or slave, look for a "hole" or "twist" in the ribbon cable, if there is one prior to the middle connector, the middle one is the slave, if it's solid from board to middle, the middle is the master).

Really though if it's not too much of an expenditure... just buy yourself another cheap SATA and call it a day, save a lot of hassle (but make sure you do have an SATA connection)

[Silhouette of Doom]

<<the one I'm currently using:

CAnt tell ya yet, dont have a screwdriver around to open the case... but I'm 90% sure it's SATA>>

From your post, I'm 100% sure it's SCSI.

[Celephais]

From your post, I'm 100% sure it's SCSI.

I've seen some MBs report SATA as SCSI, and a quick search tells me he's using a 80GB Deskstar 7k80 SATA. ...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/GuinnessKMF/gangsta.jpg

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[Kuyuk]

Celephais, if I buy one of the HD's you listed, would I be able to plug it in and have two HD's pop up on my computer, and simply transfer data between the two?

K.

[Celephais]

Celephais, if I buy one of the HD's you listed, would I be able to plug it in and have two HD's pop up on my computer, and simply transfer data between the two?

K.

I'm 100% certain. (Make sure you've got a spare plug like the one in the picture w/ the little hook and a spare power connection off the PSU, the four pin molex ones will do as the drives (at least the maxtor) come with 4-pin molex->SATA power adapter.

[Silhouette of Doom]

<<I've seen some MBs report SATA as SCSI, and a quick search tells me he's using a 80GB Deskstar 7k80 SATA.>>

Those are some retarded motherboards.

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No thanks.

<<Silhouette of Doom, if I buy one of the HD's listed, would I be able to plug it in and have two HD's pop up on my computer, and simply transfer data between the two?>>

As long as you have a free SATA connector.

[Kuyuk]

<<As long as you have a free SATA connector.>>

Sure do.

On a side note, after I tried to take pictures of my computer shit, I bumped it and lost power, and then norton's Goback was whacked out and wouldnt let me startup windows, and kept freezing and restarting...causing a 2 hour escapade trying to bypass goback without having access to the internet to look shit up... eventually had to call my brother to get the customer service number, and then they told me how to forcibly remove goback on startup to bypass it; was as simple as cntr-alt-g... fuckin nortons, coulda just had it on the webpage so I didnt have to call them.

Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll probably buy one of the HD's and spare adapters in the next two weeks.

K.