THW + hiding/ambush, is it worth it?

[kheldarin]

I'm doubling in hiding/ambush and my RT is still 8 seconds with a claidhmore. Is it going to get better over time? Or is it because of THWs just being too heavy?

Also um, what is a good (by good I meant good money) hunting spot for a rogue with 10 trainings? I've taken down silverback orcs in Icemule but their loot sucks. Anything around the Landing or Icemule would be great.

Thanks!

[Silhouette of Doom]

It's because you have not very high AGL + DEX bonuses. Every 15 combined bonus = -1 RT, rounded normally so the thresholds are 8, 23, 38, 53, 68.

[kheldarin]

It's because you have not very high AGL + DEX bonuses. Every 15 combined bonus = -1 RT, rounded normally so the thresholds are 8, 23, 38, 53, 68.

So do you think I should just stick it out and keep training in it?

[fallenSaint]

Level 10 isnt that far along bud, goin to be awhile before you see some reductions and I don't think Claid goes much further down depending on your Race.

[Silhouette of Doom]

<<So do you think I should just stick it out and keep training in it?>>

That depends entirely on if you can handle the roundtime and what your DEX/AGL growth path is.

[Asha]

Do it. It pwnes.
My rogue went far with the 2hw action. It's mean.

[kheldarin]

Yes, I hardly use ambush right now, it hurts me more than the critters, heh.


Do it. It pwnes.
My rogue went far with the 2hw action. It's mean.

I totally plan to keep the THW going, I was just wondering about the hiding/ambushing. Nothing else compares to the crits on my claidhmore.

I guess I'll keep going with my training path:

Caspiel (at level 10), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 62 13
Combat Maneuvers..............| 62 13
Two-Handed Weapons..........| 99 23
Ambush.............................| 90 20
Physical Fitness..................| 54 11
Dodging.............................| 93 21
Disarming Traps..................| 105 25
Picking Locks.....................| 117 29
Stalking and Hiding..............| 105 25
Perception.........................| 122 31
Climbing............................| 30 6
Swimming...........................| 30 6

Name: Caspiel Race: Half-Elf Profession: Rogue (shown as: Hoodlum)
Gender: Male Age: 0 Expr: 139313 Level: 10
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 89 (19) ... 89 (19)
Constitution (CON): 73 (11) ... 73 (11)
Dexterity (DEX): 84 (22) ... 84 (22)
Agility (AGI): 80 (25) ... 80 (25)
Discipline (DIS): 68 (4) ... 68 (4)
Aura (AUR): 77 (13) ... 77 (13)
Logic (LOG): 63 (6) ... 63 (6)
Intuition (INT): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Wisdom (WIS): 61 (5) ... 61 (5)
Influence (INF): 34 (-3) ... 34 (-3)

[Silhouette of Doom]

Okay, so right now you have 47 DEX+AGL.

Assuming you'll eventually max out, you'll have 65. Somewhere in the middle you'll get to 7 ambush RT, and if you can get a +3 DEX or AGL bonus enhancer you'll ambush in 6 seconds.

[Renian]

With a claidh, you probably don't have to hide at your level to ambush with it. Just open ambush. Hell, with a claidh and the low hp of low level mobs, you could probably just swing it normally.

But yeah, as you get more AGI+DEX it will go down, as you have been told. That "somewhere in the middle" previously mentioned is at 53.

[kheldarin]

With a claidh, you probably don't have to hide at your level to ambush with it. Just open ambush. Hell, with a claidh and the low hp of low level mobs, you could probably just swing it normally.

But yeah, as you get more AGI+DEX it will go down, as you have been told. That "somewhere in the middle" previously mentioned is at 53.

Ouch, 53? I don't even plan to be playing that long, haha. Should I abandon it altogether?

[Silhouette of Doom]

53 combined bonus, not level 53.

Just checked it. Level 26 for 7 second claidh ambush RT. And then it's going to be a really long time (possibly infinite!) until you can ambush in 6, but that shouldn't really come as a surprise... after all, you're ambushing with a claidhmore.

[kheldarin]

53 combined bonus, not level 53.

Just checked it. Level 26 for 7 second claidh ambush RT. And then it's going to be a really long time (possibly infinite!) until you can ambush in 6, but that shouldn't really come as a surprise... after all, you're ambushing with a claidhmore.

Ahh, okay thanks for looking it up. Would there be chance for a 5 second THW? If not, I'm just going to give up ambushing altogether.

[Latrinsorm]

No THW has a base RT below 4, therefore no THW has a minimum ambush time of 5 seconds or lower.

Personally, I wouldn't give up on THW ambushing. Maul ambushes are probably the best thing ever.

[kheldarin]

Thanks all, I've finally concluded that hiding/ambushing is not the right thing for my character. Now I can put all of those points into more important things like armor, dodging, and lockpicking, heh.

[Drew]

Get a maul or mattock if you plan to do THW hide & ambush.

[Renian]

I agree with the maul statement. Otherwise, open ambush.