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Gan
08-13-2007, 12:56 PM
A mere three-tenths of 1 percent of Chicago public school teachers receive "unsatisfactory" evaluations. A recent study by the New Teacher Project, a national non-profit aimed at raising the caliber of public school teachers, also found that even among the district's 87 most demonstrably failing schools, 80 percent hadn't issued an "unsatisfactory" rating to a teacher.

Either that's one astounding teaching force, or the Chicago Public Schools' evaluation system is whacked.

Call us cynics, but we favor the latter interpretation.

The specific problem here is not the teachers. It's an evaluation system so bogus that it provides mediocre and poor teachers with a false sense that they're doing well -- and, just as bad -- fails to reward the highest performing educators for their excellent work.

It's also a system fraught with conflicts of interest. Principals may be reluctant to issue low performance ratings to teachers who, say, serve on Local School Councils, which in turn are responsible for...the principals' evaluations. And with a contract that makes it virtually impossible to fire a tenured dud of a teacher, many principals see no point in issuing a bad rating.

That's unfortunate because meaningful job evaluations are critical professional development tools. They can ensure that only the best teachers are granted tenure after a four-year probation and can help keep experienced teachers focused. They also can help determine which teachers need extra support.

The Chicago Teachers Union and CPS recognize the need for a better evaluation system. They've worked together to develop new criteria that are more specific and sophisticated.

But even that new blueprint, not yet released, contains one glaring and unacceptable omission: It fails to link teacher evaluations to student outcomes. Are kids learning?

Not all teaching positions can easily be linked to test scores; take music or art, for instance. But even those positions can have explicit standards for what general concepts students should master, and what kind of planning, student evaluation and communication skills teachers should demonstrate in the classroom.

Nobody is suggesting that teachers be evaluated solely on student scores. But student performance is, after all, why they're teaching.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-0813edit1aug13,0,3665373.story
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Thought this might be of interest...

How should schools be evaluated?

We have the TAKS test here in Texas, and with several family members in the ranks as Teachers they find it hard that almost all of the cirriculum nowdays is based around taking the tests instead of learning.

I'm not a huge fan of generic tests simply because they fail to adequately (IMO) serve as an accurate overview of a student's knowledge. Especially if the test is accompanied by anxiety, poor creation/question foundation, etc. In essence, I hate standardized tests simply because they fail to hit the mark with judging student performance.

However, what other methods are available to judge a student's level of learning and knowledge acquisition?

Sean
08-13-2007, 01:01 PM
I dunno but this thread made me think of an ad that I see on buses everyday when I'm driving to work. Clearly the site has an anti union bias, but it's an interesting read in conjunction with the poor evaluating tactics of Chicago.

http://www.teachersunionexposed.com/

Gan
08-13-2007, 01:11 PM
There's also a very interesting chapter in Freakonomics about Chicago school teacher evaluations.

Drakam
08-13-2007, 08:54 PM
I've heard this system in place before but it would be good to see teachers get a bonus for every kid they once taught that reaches honor roll status up until they graduate from high school. It would give incentive to teachers to really help the students and would give a better idea of which are the really excellent teachers by looking at how many of their kids they taught have gone on to honor roll.

Latrinsorm
08-13-2007, 09:22 PM
It seems to me that there are two things we want out of school for students:
1) Hard work (or, being trained to work [hard]).
2) Results (in terms of learning).

As such, the only sensible way to rate teachers is with a sabermetric-esque VORT. All we need to do is measure how much effort a kid would put in for a baseline figure as well as how much they would learn and compare that with the measured values for that particular teacher. If anyone knows how to do that, that would be super.

Tsa`ah
08-14-2007, 09:31 PM
Well at least this was a study of Chicago specifically. It usually goes either way ... Someone trying to make Chicago look better by piggy backing them on the review of the entire state, or the opposite ... making IL look horrid as a whole due to Chicago being fucked up.

I think Chicago has the only educational administration in the state that allows for a teacher to serve on a board that reviews their own administration. I've had conversations with a number of ex-Chicago teachers who say it's probabably the only place in the nation for a teacher to suck and have job security. The result of that is that poor educators will flock to Chicago in droves just to become dust collectors. The only thing that will get them out of Chicago is fear for their own personal safety.

That's not to say every teacher in the Chicago system is bad, but there are enough of them that it really overshadows, and impedes upon, the good educators.

I think it was the 2005 national report card that showed the student to teacher ration in IL to be just under 16, and the expenditure per student to be just under 10k per school year.

The sad reality is that if you cut Chicago out of the picture, the student to teacher ratio would be somewhere between 10-12 and the expenditure per student on the top end of 11k per student. That's how screwed up Chicago is. The students are packed 20-60 a room with teacher who is often more than content to just read a paper and instruct the class to follow what's on the board.

In order to correct Chicago you have to restructure the administration, de-consolidate, and actually spend the money per student you claim to spend. So much has to be addressed before you can get into evaluating teachers and students.

Sean of the Thread
08-14-2007, 09:34 PM
Teachers are good and bad everywhere obviously.

grapedog
08-14-2007, 10:01 PM
the problem is with the unions, there are lots of crappy teachers who could really care less about students...but they can't be fired unless they do something extremely stupid.

Look at some of the few schools that don't have tenured teachers and you tend to see much better results coming from students. Shitty teachers should be fire-able...just like anyone in most other professions.

Tsa`ah
08-14-2007, 10:29 PM
the problem is with the unions, there are lots of crappy teachers who could really care less about students...but they can't be fired unless they do something extremely stupid.

Look at some of the few schools that don't have tenured teachers and you tend to see much better results coming from students. Shitty teachers should be fire-able...just like anyone in most other professions.

In the case of Chicago, unions are only a part of the problem. First you have to stop hiring crap teachers, then you have to stop protecting crap teachers. You also have to eliminate a crap teacher's ability to influence the outcome of any evaluation they receive outside of actual performance.

The union issue is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the entire system.

Gan
08-14-2007, 11:56 PM
How does their pay compare?