Aids and you

[Xcalibur]

Interesting study there...

40 million person got aids in the world.

Out of those 40 million, "sub-sahara" (bellow the sahara?) africa has alone 26,6 million people with aids.

In 2003, 3 millions people died of aids, while 5 other millions got it.

Only 1,6 million people has aids in industrious countries. (80 000 new case in 2003, 18000 dead in 2003 also)


Personnaly, i think a .0006% of the whole population having aids isn't as high as i though.

[Red Devil]

snitches get stitches

[Latrinsorm]

I don't know where you got that percentage... if the world has 6 bil and there's more than 6 mil sick, that would be .1%, yes? I think the counts are high anyway.

[Xcalibur]

,06%, i did a mistake (forgot 2 zeros), you are indeed right.

I still think it's very low, when you think that 2/3 are from the south part of africa.

[pennywise]

Botswana has a 38.8 % HIV / AIDS prevalence rate, South Africa is anywhere from 12 to 20%, and Zimbabwe is about 33 %. Anyway you look at it, it is devastating.

[Artha]

It's even more devestating when you realise more are going to get it. In some of the more backwards areas, it's believed raping a virgin will cure your AIDS.

(Hint: It doesn't.)


edit: Here's a map that has AIDS stats for africa.

link (http://www.time.com/time/2001/aidsinafrica/map_flash.html)

[Edited on 11-26-2003 by Artha]

[Black Jesus]

you get aids because god hates you

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Black Jesus
you get aids because god hates you

Yeehah.

Lets get the countdown to your next ban rolling.:thumbsup:

[Caiylania]

AIDS could be stopped. People aren't willing to do it though.

--> Don't fuck around.

[StrayRogue]

AIDs would be cut down if people like the Pope didn't denounce contraception or abortion.

[GuildRat]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
AIDs would be cut down if people like the Pope didn't denounce contraception or abortion.

Preach on brother Stray, preach on!!

[Xcalibur]

As I remember, we're catholique here, so are in France, so are in Spain, so are, et cetera.

It isn't an epidemie here and there.

Those people need to wake up from their 19th centuries slumber.

[Bestatte]

Originally posted by Caiylania
AIDS could be stopped. People aren't willing to do it though.

--> Don't fuck around.

Wow I guess you and the others here who keep bringing up sex are the tiny minority of people who still haven't crawled out of their caves.

A wee bit of enlightenment that dates back.. TWO DECADES and is still valid today:

Aids is a blood disease. That means it's spread through several different ways, sex being just one of them.

Think about that next time you go to the dentist and the good doctor isn't wearing gloves. Or the next time the veterinarian takes a look at your pet and has an open bite-mark on his wrist just before he shakes your hand, just before you go to the fast food joint for your hand-held burger.

Think about it next time you get a tattoo from someone who doesn't use disposable ink needles. Think about it real hard if you're a junkie. On second thought, don't. if you're a junkie you're gonna die a nasty death anyway, so let the AIDs just speed it up a bit.

[GuildRat]

Wow I guess you and the others here who keep bringing up sex are the tiny minority of people who still haven't crawled out of their caves.


The AIDS epedemic in Africa is not caused by poor medical practices, it's caused by infected people having SEX with uninfected people, infected mothers giving birth to infected children.

As for Catholicism, there's more Catholic missionaries in Africa than any other religeous faction, and they're preaching the good ol Pope's messages. Maybe not a prime contributor, but a contributor nonetheless.

[StrayRogue]

Thats because France, Canada et al. are not swayed so heavily by religion as other, more third world countries. Thats not a fact, just a point to be made. I guarantee you AIDs numbers would be lower if the Pope and other religions and other religous leaders would embrace and support contraception.

And GuildRat is correct. Sex is the main cause. Not the only, but the main. Drug abuse, poor medical conditions are all factors, but not as large as the sex thing.

GO RELIGION.

[pennywise]

Religion is too easy a scapegoat, I would have expected you people to find better. By the way, the problem is more related to traditional beliefs than catholicism.

[Edaarin]

Propaganda isn't blameless either. There are Sub Saharan African leaders who believe that sex doesn't cause AIDS (I don't remember which country, Zimbabwe?). And politics as well, since a lot of countries don't have the kind of money to pay for HIV/AIDS medication it's easier to dismiss it as a nonexistent epidemic. Probably doesn't do the country any good to acknowledge that they're being slowly ravaged by something that could eventually wipe them out.

[StrayRogue]

I think the point is that there is no single route cause of it.

[GuildRat]

The root cause?

Someone screwed a monkey and doomed mankind to paranoia forever.

[Edited to add it's a JOKE!!!]

[Edited on 11-26-2003 by GuildRat]

[EmpressBtch]

All of the hookers in Africa don't use condoms. I'm pretty sure all hookers anywhere don't but I think it was the Discovery channel that did a study on the hookers in Africa. Not for aids purposes though, they were researching the effectiveness of nonoxonil 9 vs. condoms.

[Caiylania]

Originally posted by Bestatte

Originally posted by Caiylania
AIDS could be stopped. People aren't willing to do it though.

--> Don't fuck around.

Wow I guess you and the others here who keep bringing up sex are the tiny minority of people who still haven't crawled out of their caves.

A wee bit of enlightenment that dates back.. TWO DECADES and is still valid today:

Aids is a blood disease. That means it's spread through several different ways, sex being just one of them.

Think about that next time you go to the dentist and the good doctor isn't wearing gloves. Or the next time the veterinarian takes a look at your pet and has an open bite-mark on his wrist just before he shakes your hand, just before you go to the fast food joint for your hand-held burger.

Think about it next time you get a tattoo from someone who doesn't use disposable ink needles. Think about it real hard if you're a junkie. On second thought, don't. if you're a junkie you're gonna die a nasty death anyway, so let the AIDs just speed it up a bit.


First, yes it is transmitted by blood and bodily fluids. But less than ONE PERCENT of all aids cases now is contracted through blood transfusions, contact with an open sore, or food.

Overwhelmingly the main causes of contracting aids are sex and sharing needles.

The easiest way to erradicate aids would be for anyone with it to not have sex or share needles (which no one should do anyway).

And proffesions which must use needles, DRs, tatooists, etc... to only use throw away needles.

If people were willing to make these choices (no sex -at least with people who don't already have it) and not sharing needles. Aids would stop spreading.

[Edited on 11-27-2003 by Caiylania]

[longshot]

I always wrap and I don't mainline heroin.

I'm safe.

[Xcalibur]

Wrap can break. That's why I always ask a medical paper (and 3 months delay) from any girls that had the chance to go to bed with me

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Bestatte

Wow I guess you and the others here who keep bringing up sex are the tiny minority of people who still haven't crawled out of their caves.

A wee bit of enlightenment that dates back.. TWO DECADES and is still valid today:

Aids is a blood disease. That means it's spread through several different ways, sex being just one of them.

Think about that next time you go to the dentist and the good doctor isn't wearing gloves. Or the next time the veterinarian takes a look at your pet and has an open bite-mark on his wrist just before he shakes your hand, just before you go to the fast food joint for your hand-held burger.

Think about it next time you get a tattoo from someone who doesn't use disposable ink needles. Think about it real hard if you're a junkie. On second thought, don't. if you're a junkie you're gonna die a nasty death anyway, so let the AIDs just speed it up a bit.

I think you need to poke your head out of your cave as well.

Transfer of bodily fluids.

No fluid transfer from a person handing you a burger. Perhaps if they had Hep and spit on it... but that isn't HIV.

Unless the dentist is bleeding from the hand and you are bleeding in the mouth, you won't contract HIV. Saliva is a very poor medium for viral transfer. I believe a study I read indicated that several hundred gallons of HIV infected saliva would be required for the transfer to occur.

Shaking hands with an HIV positive person who is bleeding will not infect you unless you yourself are bleeding and the wounds meet.

Dirty needles are a prime medium for transfer, but seriously, anyone who doesn't request to see the needle before it sticks you is a moron and probably deserves a disease.

Sex is still the prime medium of transfer for HIV. Infected persons abstaining from intercourse would do wonders to disease prevention measures.

Go read a fricking book.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by StrayRogue
Thats because France, Canada et al. are not swayed so heavily by religion as other, more third world countries. Thats not a fact, just a point to be made. I guarantee you AIDs numbers would be lower if the Pope and other religions and other religous leaders would embrace and support contraception.

GO RELIGION.

Except.. if we listened to the Pope, we would have ONE sex partner throughout life. Therefore there's no need for contraception of the sort you mean. But it's nice that you'd ignore that.

[Bastard]

>>Except.. if we listened to the Pope, we would have ONE sex partner throughout life. Therefore there's no need for contraception of the sort you mean. But it's nice that you'd ignore that.<<

That's just not realistic for most people. Using contraception is.

[Myshel]

Their was a dentist in Florida several years ago who gave aids to a 16 year old virgin. It made the headlines.

[Artha]

That's just not realistic for most people.

Yeah, heaven forbid people have some sort of a sense of commitment.

[Tsa`ah]

Originally posted by Myshel
Their was a dentist in Florida several years ago who gave aids to a 16 year old virgin. It made the headlines.

I recall the story, just not the specifics.

This was not a blood to saliva transfer. It was blood to blood. Saliva is not, nor has ever been a good, let alone probable, medium for the transfer of HIV.

For the girl to have contracted it, the good Dr needed prolonged wound to wound contact.

[Myshel]

I don't remember the specifics either, except he did have sores on his hands, he was doing oral surgery without gloves.

[Bestatte]

Tayre et all..I'm very much aware of how AIDs is transferred. I was referring to a case where a fast food handler had the HIV virus and had cut himself with a knife at work, and gave a burger with a blood-smeared wrapper on it to a customer. If that customer had an open wound on his hand or in his mouth when he bit into that burger, he would've been at risk, or would at least have had to worry, because if there's blood on the wrapper, there's probably blood on the burger too. Except since it's red meat, you can't tell.

There really was a case where an HIV positive employee worked at a fast food joint and got fired when his employer found out, because of the VERY real risk of transmitting -blood- to other people in his job.

[Skirmisher]

Originally posted by Bestatte
Tayre et all..I'm very much aware of how AIDs is transferred. I was referring to a case where a fast food handler had the HIV virus and had cut himself with a knife at work, and gave a burger with a blood-smeared wrapper on it to a customer. If that customer had an open wound on his hand or in his mouth when he bit into that burger, he would've been at risk, or would at least have had to worry, because if there's blood on the wrapper, there's probably blood on the burger too. Except since it's red meat, you can't tell.

There really was a case where an HIV positive employee worked at a fast food joint and got fired when his employer found out, because of the VERY real risk of transmitting -blood- to other people in his job.

While its true there is A risk of transmittal in the above mentioned manner when in speaking in practical terms, if the transmittal through drug use and sexual contact could be contained the disease would for all intents and purposes end.

The virus unlike some is actually quite fragile when outside the human body and dies quickly.

[Snapp]

Yeah, even if he handed someone a blood-smeared wrapper... I'm pretty sure AIDs/HIV dies upon contact with oxygen.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Artha

That's just not realistic for most people.

Yeah, heaven forbid people have some sort of a sense of commitment.

You are a teen virgin aren't you?

[Ravenstorm]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3244564.stm


Forty million people are infected with the HIV virus that may lead to Aids - three million have already died of the disease this year alone.

Three million dead in a single year. I wonder how many people 87 billion dollars could help keep from suffering and dying. Just a thought.

Raven

[HarmNone]

Preach on, brutha Raven. If only we could use our money that wisely. ::sigh::

HarmNone