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The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 12:47 AM
If bonds are in my name, but someone else happens to have them in their possession, how do I go about getting them? In this case i 100% know they are there. Also can someone else cash these bonds, say a family member?

Other question was about a Will. If in the Will it says:

XXX warrents and represents that these renunciations are consistent with the intent and agreement of XXX and Mario Ponzzz.

Does this mean I agreed to something? If so, what if someone forged my name to do this. Because I didn't agree to nothing and had not heard of any of this until I received a copy of this Will.

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 12:49 AM
Oh, here's the line before that in the Will, I assume it's important.

Mario Ponzzz is hereby deemed to have renounced his right, in favor of XXX, to sever the alternate, successor or substitute Executor pursuant to Article Seven of said Will.

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 12:55 AM
Lastly article 7 basically states XXX is paying all legal fees.

Sylvan Dreams
06-23-2007, 02:20 AM
If bonds are in my name, but someone else happens to have them in their possession, how do I go about getting them? In this case i 100% know they are there. Also can someone else cash these bonds, say a family member?

Other question was about a Will. If in the Will it says:

XXX warrents and represents that these renunciations are consistent with the intent and agreement of XXX and Mario Ponzzz.

Does this mean I agreed to something? If so, what if someone forged my name to do this. Because I didn't agree to nothing and had not heard of any of this until I received a copy of this Will.

From how I read this, it reads that yourself and XXX came to some sort of verbal agreement and that the written verbiage is a reflection of said agreement.

Sylvan Dreams
06-23-2007, 02:21 AM
Oh, here's the line before that in the Will, I assume it's important.

Mario Ponzzz is hereby deemed to have renounced his right, in favor of XXX, to sever the alternate, successor or substitute Executor pursuant to Article Seven of said Will.

That wasn't very well worded, but it reads as though you've renounced your right as Executor of the will in favor of the other person. I'm not really sure you can do that, since someone else determines who can or cannot execute their will, I don't believe you can pass that on to someone else.

TheEschaton
06-23-2007, 08:06 AM
Is it a joint will? I assume this is your Ex-Wife? If so, the first line probably refers to the intent and agreement of your divorce settlement. Because normally, you two would have been able to have a will together, she's saying "We've agreed that he can't name the Executor of my Will, and everything he and I agreed to [presumably in the divorce settlement] is reflected here."

-TheE-

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 01:35 PM
No, this is a death from 2003.

TheEschaton
06-23-2007, 01:40 PM
I think I would need to see the whole will to know what the hell the person is talking about.

Oh, as for the bond issue - a person can't cash bonds in your name, unless they have your ID (and presumably look like you and can forge your signature). The only time someone can cash a bond is when the holder is a minor, and even then I think the minor needs to be presented in some way or another.

As for getting them - ask nicely?

-TheE-

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 05:17 PM
Yea, the Will issue is just...odd. Basically, what happened was I got a letter saying the total sum of $195,000 of the estate was renounced into XXX name from my agreement in 2003.

I never knew there was a Will, nor did I know I was left $195,000. But several people gave me some good advice. Going to go ahead and talk to a lawyer and get things started.

As for the bonds, yea, it's a sticky situation. Wish I could get them.

TheEschaton
06-23-2007, 05:20 PM
Wait, so XXX isn't the dead person?

And XXX received your inheritance on an agreement you said you never entered into? Sue that idiot. If there's no paper you signed saying you agree, it'll be impossible for XXX to prove you orally agreed to something, and then you might have XXX on fraud.

Especially if your signature is on the will as having agreed to that.

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 05:30 PM
Yea, the dead person is a great aunt that I use to visit. Little crazy I might add and left her home and belongings to me. The things were sold and valued at the $195,000. XXX in my family member who is not taking the cash due to an agreement I had.

So yea. I was just kinda shocked, seeing this all happened.

Jazuela
06-23-2007, 05:49 PM
Were you 18 years or older in 2003? Because if you weren't, all of that stuff would be invalid. Minors can't enter into legal agreements by themselves. If you did have a legal agreement, then somewhere would be your signature and probably a notary seal as well.

If Auntie assigned Sue as Executor, then there wouldn't have been any need for an agreement between you and Sue. If Auntie assigned you as Executor, and Sue took it over, there would -have- to be something with your signature on it, notarized, showing your consent to shift the responsibility to her. Otherwise, whether you had a verbal agreement or not, Auntie's written assignment remains valid.

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 06:11 PM
No, was 18 in 1999. So yea, will have to take a peek at some John Hancocks.

TheEschaton
06-23-2007, 06:16 PM
Mario's the same age as me and he's already got an ex-wife. I've never had a relationship longer than 8 months, oy.

-TheE-

The Ponzzz
06-23-2007, 06:46 PM
Yea, MTV made a show about me. Engaged and Fucking Retardly underaged(21).

Warriorbird
06-25-2007, 01:39 PM
It's a club you should be glad to have avoided, E.

-member