View Full Version : 40 year old coach marries 16 year old student
Skeeter
06-22-2007, 02:16 PM
Mary Kay Laterno thinks this is inappropriate.
http://www.local6.com/education/13542246/detail.html
WILMINGTON, N.C. -- A 40-year-old high school teacher and cross country coach has resigned and married a 16-year-old student.
A marriage license shows Brenton Wuchae married Windy Hager in Brunswick County, N.C., on Monday. The county board of education approved Wuchae's resignation Tuesday -- a week after he had requested it.
Wuchae coached Hager at South Brunswick High School, where she was a star runner. He lives less than two miles from her home on Oak Island.
Hager's parents said they did all they could to keep the couple apart after noticing a deeper-than-usual friendship between them.
Betty and Dennis "Bubba" Hager told The Star-News that they exhausted their resources. They said they asked for help from school officials, law enforcement, teachers and students. They also said they asked Wuchae to leave their daughter alone and tried to get a restraining order against him.
"There was no proof of anything unlawful on his part or her part," said Oak Island Police Major Greg Jordan. "Inappropriate and unlawful are two different things."
The Star-News reported that Windy filed for emancipation in March, but ended up dropping the action after her parents' lawyer contended that they weren't bad parents.
The Hagers said they reluctantly signed a consent form allowing their daughter to marry her coach.
The parents said that on Saturday, Windy asked her dad to sign emancipation papers -- which he refused. She then asked him to sign a paper Wuchae had drawn up and had notarized, which would give Windy permission to marry her coach. Her dad said he also refused that.
But on Monday, the Hagers met their child and her coach at the courthouse and signed off on the marriage certificate.
"He had all the power in the world -- all he had to do was say, 'I can't do this,'" Betty Hager said.
Schools Superintendent Katie McGee said she was shocked and disheartened.
Wuchae was hired in 2004.
Skeeter
06-22-2007, 02:17 PM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/abc_gma_coach_edit_070621_ms.jpg
Well, if she's happy with him...
I'm betting she'll regret it in a year, though.
Sean of the Thread
06-22-2007, 02:41 PM
Wow
To each their own.
Sounds like they acted lawfully according to the article. I cant say I'd be thrilled if I was her dad; however, I would have wished that she had waited until she was 18 or older since marriage is no light thing to jump into. That makes me question the coach's mindset a little.
The real question is would have this been news in 4 years when she was 20 and he was 44? In most circles the guy would have been given a high five IMO.
Boarding school wasn't considered?
The real question is would have this been news in 4 years when she was 20 and he was 44? In most circles the guy would have been given a high five IMO.
Course not.
However, 16 years old and still in high school is a far cry from 20 and possibly in college. I get what you're saying though.
I agree with to each their own, but I also seriously question the judgment of the coach/husband.
This guy coached her. He was an authority figure and that makes her ten times more vulnerable and easy to manipulate as apposed to her falling in love with a 40 yr old stranger. If I was the parent I would be like ok if you love each other then you can wait two years to get married and IF I let them have contact before those two years then it is going to be supervised with me sitting right next to them and my husband in the middle with a shot gun. hehe
Please like he wanted to wait 2 more years for that sweet sweet 16 year old poontang.
Lol, I just hope they don't have kids and he leaves her for their daughters hot friend.
The good thing is in 2 years no one will care.
Skeeter
06-22-2007, 03:32 PM
wtf would they have to talk about.
"No I don't want to hear about your friends hanging out in the food court at the Mall."
"No I don't care what time American Idol is on."
"I don't want to pick out a color scheme for the Prom."
"I don't care if we can make out under the bleachers, I don't want to go to your HS football game."
"What do you mean we can't go out to dinner tonight because you have detention?"
Speaking of Prom... I wonder how that's going to work out for her.
If she masturbates they both have child molestation in common!
Hehe, just kidding.
wtf would they have to talk about.
"No I don't want to hear about your friends hanging out in the food court at the Mall."
"No I don't care what time American Idol is on."
"I don't want to pick out a color scheme for the Prom."
"I don't care if we can make out under the bleachers, I don't want to go to your HS football game."
"What do you mean we can't go out to dinner tonight because you have detention?"
More like...
honey, why dont you ever bring any of your classmates over anymore? I love hanging out with you and the 'girls'...
CrystalTears
06-22-2007, 03:49 PM
Honey, have a slumber party! Please? :D
Amaron
06-22-2007, 04:03 PM
From what I read, the parents could have just stuck to their decision and said no. They did not have to sign the form.
They could have been parents and said when you are 18 and if you still feel this way then great we support you but we are not signing this paper.
J
And done what? The article more or less says nothing illegal was going on between the daughter and the teacher. What recourse did they really have? They were denied things such as restraining orders so it's not like she couldn't see if she wanted to. So if they weren't going to let her marry and they weren't going to legally emancipate her they were going to have a real uphill battle it seems.
Amaron
06-22-2007, 04:19 PM
Then have the uphill battle. If they were not "doing" anything wrong let it go.
As soon as he acted inappropriatey they could have nailed his ass.
I do not know NC law but I am assuming that under 18 is still child molestation.
Just seems wrong to give in if your child is making this kind of mistake because it would have been a battle.
I would like to think that my daughter is worth the fight.
I guess thats just my screwy thinking.
J
I agree. The only good signing that paper did was make it legal for them to do that nasty.
It sounds like they fought the battle... and lost. And didn't have anything left to fight with.
Betty and Dennis "Bubba" Hager told The Star-News that they exhausted their resources. They said they asked for help from school officials, law enforcement, teachers and students. They also said they asked Wuchae to leave their daughter alone and tried to get a restraining order against him.
"There was no proof of anything unlawful on his part or her part," said Oak Island Police Major Greg Jordan. "Inappropriate and unlawful are two different things."
CrystalTears
06-22-2007, 04:22 PM
Is it really worth fighting to the point of losing her when she really wants something? What if it meant she ran away with him? Is it really worth it at that point?
Trouble
06-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Honey, have a slumber party! Please? :D
Yeah if I were a parent of a daughter at that school I'd try to figure out a way to have someone look for hidden cameras in the locker rooms and so forth. Hell, I'd search his home too if my (hypothetical) daughter was going to be spending any significant time with his 'wife.' That guy screams pervert. Then again, now that he has the real thing, why would he need the cameras anymore?
And true, in 4 years it would be a completely different story, although it's more something you'd expect from a foreign bride situation.
Nieninque
06-22-2007, 04:23 PM
No...they could have said "If this is what you want to do, it will be worth waiting for until you are 18."
Fuck that...I would NEVER have signed those papers. That's giving up on her.
I have worked with parents with mental health issues who KNEW they could never care for their kids, who KNEW their kids would be adopted, who KNEW that their kids were better off BEING adopted, but who would never sign the papers because it was giving up on their kids.
These fuckers have no complaints whatsoever. They couldnt stop her seeing him, but ffs she is 16...what the fuck does she know about anything. Give it a year tops and she will be bored of him and their problems would have been over. They didnt have to agree to her marrying him. Idiots.
p.s. in the UK it would be illegal for him to do this. Go Brits.
If she ran away with him soon as they found them he would be in deep shit and they would probably be able to get that restraining order put on him.
But yes I guess there is always the chance they could run away and not be found.
I'm assuming you mean 18.. because she already is 16.
Nieninque
06-22-2007, 04:26 PM
Yeah changed it already :P
I have worked with parents with mental health issues who KNEW they could never care for their kids, who KNEW their kids would be adopted, who KNEW that their kids were better off BEING adopted, but who would never sign the papers because it was giving up on their kids.
Why is this a good thing? Stubborn parents doesn't always equal good parent, in my opinion. Obviously there are times (more often than not) where being stubborn is the right thing to do but in the above captioned example I don't think it's one of them.
Bobmuhthol
06-22-2007, 04:35 PM
<<but ffs she is 16...what the fuck does she know about anything>>
:(
Nieninque
06-22-2007, 04:58 PM
<<but ffs she is 16...what the fuck does she know about anything>>
:(
I meant in relation to relationships and life itself.
You are above average intelligence Alex, it was a sweeping generalisation.
Dont get all morose on me.
Skeeter
06-23-2007, 01:17 PM
Jesus christ it's not like they signed over her death warrant. At 16 she's likely to be having sex anyway just because it's with a 40 yo perv doesn't change that.
They probably figured she will be bored of him in a couple years and get a divorce. If not and they stay married for years, I guess they're happy.
Refusing to sign the papers no matter what isn't good parenting, it's just not thinking things through.
Sean of the Thread
06-23-2007, 02:00 PM
I actually agree with skeeter.
I also think this girl is a slut.
Amaron
06-23-2007, 04:42 PM
Refusing to sign the papers IS good parenting.
No way would I just hand my daughter over to a 40 year old perv.
J
Family Of Girl Who Married Teacher Sues School District
POSTED: 9:17 am EDT July 11, 2007
UPDATED: 9:26 am EDT July 11, 2007
WILMINGTON, N.C. -- The parents of a 16-year-old girl who recently married a 40-year-old former high school coach have filed a lawsuit against the Brunswick County Board of Education, saying school officials failed to protect their daughter.
In the lawsuit filed Tuesday, Dennis and Betty Hager of Oak Island are seeking at least $20,000 from the school district for allegedly failing to discipline former teacher Brenton Wuchae and causing the family emotional pain and suffering. The science teacher and cross country coach mentored Windy Hager at South Brunswick High School and resigned June 18, the same day the couple married.
The Brunswick County Board of Education last week released a detailed account of the school's involvement in the case, saying school administrators closely monitored and limited the couple's relationship but never found evidence of any romance.
But the Hagers contend they approached school officials with concerns over the relationship and that school officials failed to investigate the matter appropriately. The Hagers have said they reluctantly signed a consent form allowing their daughter to marry her coach.
Superintendent Katie McGee said Tuesday that officials will "defend ourselves vigorously."
"I can say without reservation that knowing all the details of this matter, no reasonable person would expect any better performance by the Board of Education or the administration," McGee said in a statement.
Board of Education Chairman Scott Milligan said the lawsuit is "completely without merit."
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/13660585/detail.html
Celephais
07-11-2007, 02:37 PM
are seeking at least $20,000
So that's the going rate on 16 year old white girls? Hmm, guess I'm not so far off as I thought.
CrystalTears
07-11-2007, 02:38 PM
Wait wait wait WAIT a fucking minute. Didn't they sign off on allowing her to marry the guy? Since when is the school responsible for THEIR daughter's upbringing? WTFF.
So that's the going rate on 16 year old white girls? Hmm, guess I'm not so far off as I thought.
:rofl:
Latrinsorm
07-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Wait wait wait WAIT a fucking minute. Didn't they sign off on allowing her to marry the guy? Since when is the school responsible for THEIR daughter's upbringing? WTFF.They're suing them for not putting a muzzle on Coach, hence the "for allegedly failing to discipline former teacher Brenton Wuchae" line.
CrystalTears
07-11-2007, 03:51 PM
Since they never found any romantical activity, discipline him for what?
Since they never found any romantical activity, discipline him for what?
Romantical. Word for the day.
werd.
Artha
07-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Since they never found any romantical activity, discipline him for what?
The school claims they didn't, the parents claim they told the school there was something going on. So that's why they're suing.
Some Rogue
07-11-2007, 05:56 PM
We couldn't stop it at home but you should have stopped it at school! Oh and by the way, we went ahead and gave her permission to marry him.
Fucking people like this piss me off. They can't parent for shit then look for someone else to blame.
Artha
07-11-2007, 06:29 PM
It did, presumably, start at school. And not signing the permission is just asking for your daughter to run away and probably be worse off.
Daniel
07-11-2007, 06:55 PM
Solution: 12 gauge to the fucker's nuts.
The school claims they didn't, the parents claim they told the school there was something going on. So that's why they're suing.
Why should they if the police couldn't find anything wrong either? From the OP:
"There was no proof of anything unlawful on his part or her part," said Oak Island Police Major Greg Jordan. "Inappropriate and unlawful are two different things."
Jayvn
07-11-2007, 08:15 PM
Dennis "Bubba" Hager
Why does it not suprise me there's a BUBBA in this story
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