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grapedog
06-06-2007, 12:13 PM
So, I was playing around with points, after some suggestions from another site to reduce shield training. I dropped shield to 1x...and I bumped Physical Training from 1x to 2x. THe description of PT from the skills manager says I should get an increase in HP each time I trained it. Well, i brought it from 39 ranks to 78 ranks, and my hitpoints didn't change at all.

I'm still at the point where my skill choices change pretty much instantly...so, my ranks have switched over, but I didn't get any increase in HP. Will it give me more HP per train each time I level from now on...and it's not retroactive? Or should I be seeing an immediate HP boost from going from 1x to 2x in it?

from GS's own site... "Skill in physical fitness is the primary factor that determines how many hits your character can withstand before succumbing to unconsciousness, shock or death. Every time you train in this, you achieve increases in the amount of health points you have. You can increase your health point total by an amount determined by your race (usually around 1 to 10 points) each time you train in this skill."

THat says each time the skill is trained...thats why i was assuming that it was an immediate change...but it's not?

StrayRogue
06-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Everyone has a max hit points modified by the Constitution bonus (plus other things like Toughness CMAN, and enhansives). But no, your HP doesn't go above your racial maximum.

Extra training in PT does give you more Stamina, great Stamina recovery, greater defense against maneuvers, and added HP regeneration rates.

grapedog
06-06-2007, 12:38 PM
it's also the primary factor in re-dux?

Fallen
06-06-2007, 12:45 PM
I plan on going 1x in PT as a sorcerer after I get this last rank of Disarm. It helps against Call Wind, among other things, and seems like Strayrogue said to factor into many more maneuver attacks than suspected.

thefarmer
06-06-2007, 02:37 PM
About Physical fitness helping with maneuvers..

I'm still catching up on a lot of the GSIV changes, so please bear with me. How does it help?

Fallen
06-06-2007, 02:56 PM
It is listed in the spell description for Call Wind that it helps. Mestys has came out and say it helps with the Krynch rolls and such. It looks to be a factor in many maneuvers.

liquiddrool
06-06-2007, 05:53 PM
Anyone have an opinion on taking 2x PT instead of 1x shield? I'm a sword and board rogue who ambushes quite frequently.

Nilandia
06-06-2007, 06:09 PM
it's also the primary factor in re-dux?
It is, yes.

Gretchen

grapedog
06-06-2007, 07:04 PM
Anyone have an opinion on taking 2x PT instead of 1x shield? I'm a sword and board rogue who ambushes quite frequently.

i was looking at the same thing myself, which is one of the reasons I tried it out. Right now I'm 2x dodge, 2x Shield, 1x PF...and wearing brig(at 38). I'm working to work towards MBP since it seems it's the best thing to do until they change the hiding/stealth mechanics and wearing armor.

I could easily switch Shields to 1x, PF to 2x, keep dodge at 2x...and still have a bunch of extra TP's...