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Gan
06-04-2007, 09:43 AM
June 04, 2007
Sandy Berger and the Clinton Cover-Up - Why It Matters

By Ronald A. Cass (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/author/ronald_a_cass/)

On May 17th, Sandy Berger, President Bill Clinton's National Security Adviser, voluntarily gave up his law license and with it the right to practice law. That is a stunning move for an accomplished lawyer, one of the nation's most influential public officials. Someone should take note. In fact, everyone should.

Berger previously entered a deal with the Department of Justice after he was caught stealing and destroying highly sensitive classified material regarding the Clinton Administration's handling of terrorism issues. That deal allowed him to avoid jail time, pay a modest fine, and keep his law license. It also allowed him to avoid full explanation of what he had taken and why he had taken it.

What information was worth risking his reputation, his career, and his freedom to keep hidden? And who was he risking that for?

Recently, the Board of the DC Bar, which had granted Berger his license, began asking those questions. There was only one way to stop that investigation, to keep from answering questions about what he did and why he did it, to keep the Bar from questioning his colleagues in the Clinton Administration about what had been in the documents Berger destroyed.

Berger took that step, surrendering his license, and stopping the investigation.

Ordinarily, anyone who has spent the time, effort, and money needed to master one of the "learned professions" fights with the utmost determination to keep his license. That is not merely a ticket to practice your chosen profession - it is also a badge of honor and accomplishment. Ask any doctor or lawyer, any architect or CPA, any professional at all, what it means to give that up.


That Berger didn't fight speaks volumes.


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President Clinton designated Berger as his representative to the 9/11 Commission and related hearings, which gave Berger special access to highly classified documents in the National Archives relating to the Clinton Administration's handling of al-Qaeda and similar terror threats. Berger got around rules requiring that the documents only be reviewed with Archives' employees present, purposefully stole documents, destroyed them, and lied about it all. When caught, he first blamed Archives employees for misplacing the documents, then admitted having taken them inadvertently (this is the point at which he cut the plea deal), and finally acknowledged what was obvious from the facts that were emerging - he intentionally removed and destroyed documents.

Justice Department officials who investigated the missing documents initially were persuaded that Berger must, as he claimed, have taken documents by mistake and then destroyed them to avoid having sensitive material in his possession. The plea agreement was based on the assumption that Berger was mishandling classified material - not manhandling it.

Now, however, it is clear that there was nothing innocent or inadvertent in Berger's conduct. He has something to hide and, whatever it is, he was terrified that at least some part of it would come out of a non-criminal hearing before the Bar. With no possible criminal charges to face, he could not have claimed a right against self-incrimination. He could no longer get away with saying that he took documents accidentally, took them only to prepare for up-coming hearings (why, then, take five copies of one memo?), or didn't intend to destroy them. He would, in other words, have had to say more than he has so far.


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We don't know with any certainty what is missing, which papers exactly are gone, or what notes - and whose notes - may have been on them. Berger's lawyer asserted that the 9/11 Commission had copies of all the material Berger stole and destroyed. But if that is so, why would Berger risk so much to destroy it and be so keen today on avoiding any real inquiry into what he did?

Berger had access to Archives documents that could be critical to understanding what information the Clinton Administration had, what options it considered, and what decisions it took on these sensitive subjects. In addition to primary documents, Berger had access to copies, and the only plausible reason for taking five copies of a single memo is that some had original notes on them from key officials, maybe from Berger or President Clinton.

For Berger to risk jail and disgrace, to then give up the right to practice his profession merely in order to avoid having to answer questions, he must be hiding something important. And if it is that important to him, it is also important to us.

The most likely explanation is that the material Berger destroyed points to a terrible mistake by Berger himself, by President Clinton, or by both. In dealing with al-Qaeda, did they overlook a critical piece of information or miss a chance to stop 9/11? Did the Administration's failure to take a more aggressive posture encourage al-Qaeda's later attacks?

When Fox News' Chris Wallace raised the possibility that Clinton's Administration might have done something more to prevent 9/11, Bill Clinton went into an inexplicable rage on national television. Wallace touched a nerve. So did the DC Bar.

Knowing what information Berger destroyed also might alter views of the current Bush Administration. Was the early support from both Bill and Hillary Clinton for going to war against Saddam based on something we don't know yet that was available to insiders in the Clinton Administration? Was it something that could come back to haunt Hillary and ruin her chances of winning Bill's third term?

Whatever it was, it's likely that what Berger destroyed could have helped us understand what led to the most tragic terror attack in our nation's history and perhaps also help us decide what course - and what Chief Executive - will best to protect our future. The fact that Berger has been able to avoid revealing that information is a scandal of its own.

The only person who knows what information was lost is Sandy Berger. And he isn't talking.


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What is at stake is more than what we think and say about Sandy Berger. It is more than the legacy of Bill Clinton and of George W. Bush. It is more than the prospects for Hillary Clinton becoming the Democrats' presidential nominee and ultimately the President. All of these, of course, are wrapped up in this story.

Our security and vitality of the rule of law in America are at stake as well. That should concern all whose lives and loved ones may be at risk if our nation follows the wrong path, not knowing everything that should inform our judgments. It should concern all who respect the law, all who have labored as lawyers and judges, as honorable government officials and voices for even-handed justice.

Sadly, this story doesn't interest the Justice Department, which disposed of the criminal charges leniently based in part on false information from Berger. When faced with the fact that Berger had access to original documents on two occasions before Archives' employees became suspicious enough to start marking documents, the Justice Department declared with confidence that no documents had been taken - they asked Berger if he had taken anything during those visits, he said no, and they let the matter rest.

The story doesn't interest the Democrats in Congress, who prefer spending time investigating why eight political-level appointees were fired - a misstep by the Bush Justice Department that provides more promising political fodder than one that might point back to the Clintons.

The Sandy Berger story doesn't interest the mainstream news media, probably for the same reason. The media elites, so keen in other settings on the people's right to know, don't want to know about this. Maybe if this story involved a Karl instead of a Sandy . . .

Maybe some day someone will step back and wonder why a successful lawyer like Berger would take so drastic a step as surrendering his law license just to evade questions. Someone will ask what could have been so terrible that it was worth that price to keep it hidden. Someone will decide that it's important to know what Mr. Berger is hiding.

Because, in truth, it could affect us all.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/06/sandy_berger_and_the_clinton_c.html

Parkbandit
06-04-2007, 10:03 AM
You can bet that if this was a Republican, the press would be ALL over it. I'm still shocked by the lack of coverage this theft has received.

Ilvane
06-04-2007, 10:17 AM
heh

Who is Ronald A. Cass?

http://www.committeeforjustice.org/

Articles By Ronald A. Cass
Monday, June 04: Sandy Berger and the Clinton Cover-Up - Why It Matters
Tuesday, May 29: Do-Nothing Democrats - Quelle Surprise!
Monday, January 15: Sandy Berger: What Did He Take and Why Did He Take It?
Friday, November 03: Win One for the Gipper
Monday, September 25: Bill Clinton: Play It as It Lies
Friday, September 22: Law and War: Competing Visions
Friday, June 30: Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: Common Sense at War
Thursday, May 18: Round Up the Usual Suspects: NSA, the Media, Security, & Liberty
Thursday, May 04: Judge Fights: The Politics of Petulance
Saturday, April 01: 'It Takes a Lawyer to Raze a Village'
Thursday, March 30: Stalking Scalia

Stanley Burrell
06-04-2007, 10:31 AM
You can bet that if this was a Republican, the press would be ALL over it. I'm still shocked by the lack of coverage this theft has received.

Not to finger point, but bringing up the political past as a way of justifying the present gives a lot of leeway into finger pointing, so without further adieu: This doesn't exactly look and sound like big blaring lights and sirens when compared to, say, Mr. Wolfowitz's slightly more recent activities of Yale grad politicians and "banking."

I may go so far as to say that if both these events coincided each other chronologically (assuming you agree with my above comparison and its point of what I feel is absurdity) Berger, under Clinton, would still, very sadly, receive more fanfare for such a comparably irrelevant action by more than just the Drudge Report crowd.

Seriously: How has a fixation on any post-United States president's past actually bared any follow-up action, regardless of party or hypothetical criminalities, on the improvement of a more modern day society, albeit global or local? GWB is ejaculating in and over the lap, nuke-u-lar cumshot style, of whatever candidate he can postpone his current reputation under.

I am not implying that almost any certifiable presidential has-been doesn't gloat about the diplomatic immunity gained by said 4/8 passed years. I think Clinton's pardons, last minute eBay auction style, cleverly illustrate the point that responsibility is... Fucking twisted... Well-planned fucking twisted... In the Executive Branch's mind(s) -- That's why, in a Utopian world, a population influencing media agency would post breaking reports on previous action and not sit and bicker "fairly" on Crossfire while the present slips under our noses and becomes the disgustingly escapable past of our current representatives.

Back
06-04-2007, 10:53 AM
The story doesn't interest the Democrats in Congress, who prefer spending time investigating why eight political-level appointees were fired - a misstep by the Bush Justice Department that provides more promising political fodder than one that might point back to the Clintons.

The Bush justice department is in complete shambles after its learned that under the Patriot Act Bush can appoint Attorney Generals without confirmation with most of the top tier previously coming from top RNC positions who were involved (or not and were fired) in trying to inflate voter fraud cases, who used RNC email addresses for official work that now no one can find and were at the same time practicing voter disenfranchisement to influence elections. They are resigning so fast its hard to keep up.

If there is something on Berger, prove it and if he is guilty, let the jury decide and send him on his way. If you want to dig up old issues to reexamine there are plenty to chose from. Seriously.

Gan
06-04-2007, 11:18 AM
heh

Who is Ronald A. Cass?

http://www.committeeforjustice.org/

Articles By Ronald A. Cass
Monday, June 04: Sandy Berger and the Clinton Cover-Up - Why It Matters
Tuesday, May 29: Do-Nothing Democrats - Quelle Surprise!
Monday, January 15: Sandy Berger: What Did He Take and Why Did He Take It?
Friday, November 03: Win One for the Gipper
Monday, September 25: Bill Clinton: Play It as It Lies
Friday, September 22: Law and War: Competing Visions
Friday, June 30: Hamdan v. Rumsfeld: Common Sense at War
Thursday, May 18: Round Up the Usual Suspects: NSA, the Media, Security, & Liberty
Thursday, May 04: Judge Fights: The Politics of Petulance
Saturday, April 01: 'It Takes a Lawyer to Raze a Village'
Thursday, March 30: Stalking Scalia

Regardless of who wrote it, does it change the need for attention on the matter?

Ilvane
06-04-2007, 12:07 PM
Actually you can make anything look bad if written by the right person.

:grin: That's why it matters.

I like my sources a bit more..shall I say..unbiased.

Angela

Sean
06-04-2007, 12:19 PM
If you were the writer what would you have written then? I don't see how you can find too many positives in this story to write about unless you just take the angle of he just gave up his bar because he felt like it.

Gan
06-04-2007, 12:19 PM
Actually you can make anything look bad if written by the right person.

:grin: That's why it matters.

I like my sources a bit more..shall I say..unbiased.

Angela

Enlighten us then. What in the article was biased or non-factual?

Gan
06-04-2007, 12:21 PM
If you were the writer what would you have written then? I don't see how you can find too many positives in this story to write about unless you just take the angle of he just gave up his bar because he felt like it.

I think someone needs to audit his taxes to see where he's getting [or has gotten] paid for dropping his license to practice law, much less take the fall for what he did.

CrystalTears
06-04-2007, 12:21 PM
Because the best comeback when you don't have a good one is ZOMG UR SOURCE SUX!

Gan
06-04-2007, 12:22 PM
Because the best comeback when you don't have a good one is ZOMG UR SOURCE SUX!

Yea, thats right up there with focusing on grammatical and spelling issues instead of the actual content.

Sean
06-04-2007, 12:42 PM
It's an opinion piece not really pretending to be a piece of hard news I don't really see why it matters who the source is. It's more or less some Dean of Law's Blog.

That being said the only issue I have off the top of my head, admittingly as someone who doesn't have the time/desire to do the research, is that the he draws most of his conclusions/opinions in the articles based on "Recently, the Board of the DC Bar, which had granted Berger his license, began asking those questions." and then doesn't reference you to any evidence of that. But does that really matter when the question your asking is assuming you take this information at face value how come we aren't talking about it?

Gan
06-04-2007, 12:49 PM
/Agreed. I'd like to see more reference points to the article just as backup and just so the reader can form an opinion on his/her own. However... (see below)


But does that really matter when the question your asking is assuming you take this information at face value how come we aren't talking about it?
My point exactly.

I believe this issue needs more light/exposure so these questions can be answered and to answer the other questions that arise from a bonafied investigation turns up.

Kefka
06-04-2007, 01:23 PM
People are still writing about Berger?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/

Now can we let it go?

Parkbandit
06-04-2007, 02:18 PM
People are still writing about Berger?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/

Now can we let it go?

50k is a joke. He "ILLEGALLY" removing "highly classified" documents from the National Archives and "intentionally destroyed" some of them. Sounds alot worse than a simple 50k fine.

I actually blame the Bush Administration for not looking into this theft more. It's like they are covering it up almost as much as Clinton, Inc. is.

Skirmisher
06-04-2007, 03:00 PM
At the least I have to admit it looks bad.

Warriorbird
06-04-2007, 03:04 PM
Nearly every administration (cept perhaps Carter, and he was a joke as President) has its dirty laundry. You wouldn't want similar type Republican stuff looked at, I imagine.

Parkbandit
06-04-2007, 05:30 PM
Nearly every administration (cept perhaps Carter, and he was a joke as President) has its dirty laundry. You wouldn't want similar type Republican stuff looked at, I imagine.


If someone is going in and destroying documents from the National Archives, I don't give a shit whether you have an R, a D or an I or a fucking PDQ after your name, you should be investigated and held to the highest type of punishment there is.

There is the difference right there between you and I. I don't give a shit what party you are in.. wrong is wrong. To you, it's only wrong if you have an R after your name.

Chump.

DeV
06-04-2007, 05:49 PM
According to the CNN article the documents that were destroyed the 9/11 commission had copies of all of them. Also, the claims are that he destroyed copies of documents and not originals.

Though, you know, I'm taking it all with a grain of salt.

Skirmisher
06-04-2007, 05:53 PM
Bush and his whole system has made this administration a very sad joke and unfortunately has pulled the image of the US in the worlds eyes down with it.

If I wish to say that with even the smallest amount of credibility though I must be willing to criticize my own parties errors also. So instead of glossing over things like that and this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070604/ap_on_go_co/congressman_probe) we have to line up and call them on it when such things occur.

DeV
06-04-2007, 06:15 PM
this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070604/ap_on_go_co/congressman_probe) He's toast.

Gan
06-04-2007, 06:24 PM
He's toast.

Big time

Ilvane
06-04-2007, 07:29 PM
And he *Should* be toast.

Thank god they finally indicted him. It would have been insulting if they didn't.

Angela