9.7M exp 100 female dwarf cleric +

[Kadesha]

Yup, still me. If ya dont like my price weill then..

...Send serious and reasonable offers to me here, PM, LdyKadesha@aol.com or LdyKadesha on AIM

Updated to note some changes in inventory, skills, training points and bounty points, and to lower price.

100,000,000 silvers or 1200 dollars paypal, or any combination of dollars and silvers at a rate of 12 per million
Price dropped 300 dollars

Level: 100 Deeds: 64
Experience: 9783853 Death's Sting: None
Exp. to next TP: 1147 Recent Deaths: 0
Mental TPs: 0 Fame: 184196859
Physical TPs: 94 Mana: 388/388 max

Race: Dwarf Profession: Cleric (shown as: Hero of Zul Logoth)
Gender: Female Age: 184 Expr: 9714693 Level: 100
Normal (Bonus) Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (35) 100 (35)
Constitution (CON): 82 (31) 82 (31)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (25) 100 (25)
Agility (AGI): 100 (20) 100 (20)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (35) 100 (35)
Aura (AUR): 100 (15) 100 (15)
Logic (LOG): 100 (30) 100 (30)
Intuition (INT): 100 (25) 100 (25)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (15) 100 (15)
Mana: 372 Silver: 0

Skill Name Current Current
Bonus Ranks
Armor Use 70 15
Physical Fitness 140 40
Arcane Symbols 201 101
Magic Item Use 201 101
Spell Aiming 302 202
Harness Power 288 188
Elemental Mana Control 66 14
Spirit Mana Control 160 60
Spiritual Lore - Blessings 90 20
Spiritual Lore - Religion 180 80
Spiritual Lore - Summoning 150 50
Survival 200 100
Perception 160 60
Climbing 150 50
Swimming 150 50
First Aid 201 101
Trading 180 80

Spell Lists
Major Spirit 60
Minor Spirit 70
Cleric 110

Training Points: 89 Phy 0 Mnt
*** Training points, bounty points, and exp all slowly increasing while I wait.***

Current society status:
You are a Master in the Order of Voln.
You reach out and touch the globe.
The globe hums and spins around quickly.
You try to count the number of spins and lose track as it is far more than you could keep track of. *
* Was told once by one who can tell these things, that her favor was about 1000 spins on the globe a whole lot of times over.

You have no past society affiliations.
You may reset your society status one time.

your Adventurer's Guild information is as follows:
You currently have 422150 unspent bounty points.
You have accumulated a total of 450150 lifetime bounty points.
You have succeeded at the Protect Traveller task 412 times and failed 5 times.
You are not currently assigned a task.


Profession: Hero of Zul Logoth *
* custom title from Red Rot quest.
Race: Dwarf Gender: Female
Age: as old as the hills (184)
Date of Birth: 12/15/4922
She appears to be a Dwarf.
She appears to be as old as the hills. She has age-creased, compassionate dark brown eyes and weathered, age marked dark skin. She has very long, flowing white hair swept back from the temples. She has a wrinkled face, a bulbous nose and an immaculately groomed, long silky white beard.
She has a golden key-shaped mark on her neck. **
** mark place there by Lorminstra herself, log of event available at House Serenity's Thurfel quest log archives.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing a polished ebonwood Lorminstra symbol inlaid with the image of a golden key, a lustrous deep golden amulet, a brilliant white crystal pendant, a black diamond-inset necklace, a Lorminstra badge, an invar-bound silver Adventurer's Guild badge, a white silk gold-braided full length chasuble, some rolaren studded leather armor, a gold-bound white pearl wristlet, a gold charm bracelet, an iron and mithril band, and some ebon-hued brushed suede boots.

Buyer pays transfer fee
Follower of Lorminstra
Character also comes with a signature verb (custom roleplay verb)
Member of Phoenix

Since I am extremely well known. It would be impossible for a tranfer to occur without people knowing such had occurred. To smooth the way rather thann try and conceal it, I have gone out of my way to alert everyone I can find that this is occurring beforehand.This should save buyer from having to do tons of explaining. Also, while there are always those who totally reject any transferred character, most have been most appreciative of this forewarning, stating that such makes it all much easier to take. this action should make the transition easier for the buyer as well, as most have expressed to me far less resentment and much appreciation that they are being given the courtesy of foreknowledge.

Inventory:
a polished ebonwood Lorminstra symbol inlaid with the image of a golden key:
[grand auction item, 16 actions. One made for each deity]
a lustrous deep golden amulet:
[Crafted of a flawless gold, the amulet bears intertwined patterns across its borders. Within its exact center is a lustrous golden key, the design around it resembling a shroud of pale ivory mist. ---
RUB: You rub your deep golden amulet and a golden light briefly arises from its surface.
Amulets used to reach Ulstram's sanctuary during Griffin Sword War. They no longer teleport to the sanctuary nor no longer open a secret thought channel, but they are still pretty. Attuned to character, cannot be transferred to another character.]
a black diamond-inset necklace:
[Ring holder]
an invar-bound silver Adventurer's Guild badge
a Lorminstra badge:
[Grants free deed once a month. Attuned to character cannot be transferred.]
a white silk gold-braided full length chasuble:
[4 LBS opens/close VLA ]
some rolaren studded leather armor
[+20 swcp doubles]
a gold-bound white pearl wristlet:
[Amulet holder]
an iron and mithril band:
[4 winds teleport device]
some ebon-hued brushed suede boots:
[under 3 lbs. small amount with enough space for several items.
In the brushed suede boots you see a white ora and faewood runestaff and a gold ring.]

In addition, contents of chasuble include complete field empath in a barrel or herbs kit, plus chrism gems.

[Ilvane]

Aw, Kade.

I'm seriously bummed.

I hope you find a good buyer anyway.

Angela

[TheEschaton]

Heh, I have a burn mark seared into my neck by Charl by His lightning bolt. I'm glad others are so marked by their Gods, although mine isn't a mark inasmuch as a scar.

Despite my priest's philosophical differences with Lorminstra, it's sad to see you go.

-TheE-

[Kadesha]

Edited to add this:
I have already had some request to sell the loot sack seperate. I really prefer it remains with the character. I do have one potential buyer who wishes it to remain with the character. Therefore, in order for me to sell the sack seperately, the offer for the sack will need to be ridiculously high. If you all want it that badly, buy the character!

And thankyou well wishers. I still love playing GS and love playing Kadesha. It is not easy to let her go, but I truly must leave, and know I will NOt leave so long as I have access to her. This is no hastey decision but one a long time coming. And although I am attached still to the game and the players, I am more attached to my reasons for leaving and so am happy about my choice.

Anyway.. that's all for now

Gail

[Kadesha]

bump

[Jayvn]

You can never really give up the habit you know.... I quit for good...at least 3 times... :)

[Methais]

and an immaculately groomed, long silky white beard.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/NegroApproved.jpg

[thefarmer]

I want a fancy Arkati mark.. I've been a follower almost as long as you have..
You have been a devout follower of Kai since Tilamaires, Koaratos 29, 5097 (7/29/97).

Heh.

[Asha]

You can never really give up the habit you know.... I quit for good...at least 3 times... :)

Qft

[TheEschaton]

You have been a devout follower of Charl since Leyan, Koaratos 9, 5097 (7/9/97).


<whistle>

HA!

How'd they even decide that? I was a "follower" well before that, but that was also well before CONVERT came about.

-TheE-

[Sthrockmorton]

You have been a devout follower of Ronan since Restday, Lumnea 21, 5098 (6/21/98)

How did they go about setting these?

[The Ponzzz]

You have been a devout follower of Zelia since Day of the Huntress, Olaesta 27, 5107 (4/27/07).

You have been a devout follower of Fash'lo'nae since Volnes, Imaerasta 2, 5102 (9/2/00).

I got no 1997-98 love...

[Parkbandit]

You can never really give up the habit you know.... I quit for good...at least 3 times... :)


Actually.. most people who have quit, quit for good.

[Kadesha]

You have been a devout follower of Ronan since Restday, Lumnea 21, 5098 (6/21/98)

How did they go about setting these?

I at first thought it might somehow be tied into premium start dates. checked further with some older and newer characters of mine, and it's not.

I have no clue how they determined them, but for Kadesha's it seems to be dated on the last day of Basic since her premium start date is the next day. For my empath, whom I had a good while prior to Kadesha, she has the same basic end date for her convert a day prior to my premium start date, She didn't follow any arkati for some time after but did do her roleplayed conversion prior to the release of the convert verb.

For my characters created since the conversion verb was made, theirs is actually correct..at least I think it is. Hard to tell since I didn't keep a diary of each day I rolled up a character.

Who knows?

Anyway. this all serves to be my bump for the day.

Gail

[TheEschaton]

I've only been premium since 2000, doesn't explain my 97 conversion date.

-TheE-

[Kadesha]

I've only been premium since 2000, doesn't explain my 97 conversion date.

-TheE-

That's why I said.. I dunno.. at first I only THOUGHT it might be tied to premium start, or basic end, whatever. lookin further on my own chars and others post, clearly..

...it makes no sense atall, but at least with Kadesha, it's almost even accurate..only almost though.

By the way, what's an Eschaton.. I have always been curious about your signature.. and icon too.

But I wouldn't be applying it seems.

It'd be fun to have you and Park Bandit in a debate.

Gail ... not right wing, just right

[TheEschaton]

The Eschaton is the end times in Catholic/Christian theologies. I studied eschatological theology in college for a bit when I wasn't programming, and it caught my fancy.

My signature is short for Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam. It is the motto of the Jesuit priests (a Catholic Order) and it means "For the Greater Glory of God" - IE, everything they do is Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.

My icon is my name in Sanskrit (I'm Indian). My name, Alok, is a derivative of the Hindi word Lok, which means Earth, and Alok which literally means "Not of the Earth", or "Heavenly" as people interpret it.

-TheE-

[priestofthe404]

The devout follower seems to be the date that your character was in its current configuration. Mine is 4/23/2002. Now I started 4/8/2002 and then re-rolled him about 2 weeks later...so that fits mine. He is not premium so it would stand that the date should be from when you last re-rolled, went from basic to premium, or started if none of the first two apply

"priest"

[Sthrockmorton]

looks close to when I last rerolled...

[Revalos]

You have been a devout follower of 'Other' since Niiman, Koaratos 3, 5097 (7/3/97).

I M TEH WINNAR!

But seriously...are we now actually going to have to listen when we hear some idiot on the net say, "you better not mess with me, or I'll send Kadesha after you!" Sorry to see you go, you've been the quintescential cleric since I've been around, Kadesha.

[Kadesha]

You have been a devout follower of 'Other' since Niiman, Koaratos 3, 5097 (7/3/97).

I M TEH WINNAR!

But seriously...are we now actually going to have to listen when we hear some idiot on the net say, "you better not mess with me, or I'll send Kadesha after you!" Sorry to see you go, you've been the quintescential cleric since I've been around, Kadesha.

Awww...shucks

Gads I hope not! that is why I only have her for sale here and not GSauctions. I cannot decline bidders over there. That is the ONE outcome of her being sold that I most could't bear, is some twit buying her to bully people. I might havta buy a capped sorcerer and come back and kill them if so.

But then a capped sorcerer friend of mine already said shed gladly do it for me if such was the case.

Gail

[AestheticDeath]

Honestly I havent heard of many of the characters Ive sold within the last year being used as a bully.

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But at least it wasnt big enough or common enough for anyone to make a big stink about it.

[Shalla]

What's her CS? and AS?

[Kadesha]

What's her CS? and AS?

Bah... now I hafta go.. HUNT?


Letcha know in a few minutes


Gail

[Kadesha]

What's her CS? and AS?

I edited original post to include that information after a quick hunt.

I needed to update some other skill changes also, and I traded 6X LBP for 5X double because I hated spell hindrance. My Adg enhancive also wore off, so, all those changes were noted in original post.

[Bilbobaggins]

$1500??? Your selling a "character" not your "persona" a caped mage? perhaps.. at least they can earn silvers via enchanting.. and they can be found for $700 or near enought to finish them out..

[Sthrockmorton]

Reread the original post you dumbass, and dont ever talk shit about Gail

Kontii (me) is drunk, and still sees she's not a mage...

[StrayRogue]

LMAO. I think you need to read the very first post of the Moron of the Day thread.

[Kadesha]

$1500??? Your selling a "character" not your "persona" a caped mage? perhaps.. at least they can earn silvers via enchanting.. and they can be found for $700 or near enought to finish them out..

But.. but.. an almost capped mage is my top prospective buyer. She dies, ALOT.

Anyway..

9.75 MIL exp (2 mil exp past cap)
900 Dollars

special feature alters, custome roleplay verb, special quest title? oh, mebbe100 Dollars

Optimized stats so the buyer don't need a fixstat potion, and well balanced training with fixskill left over..
200-300 Dollars

Loot sack that Tsin even is trying to talk off her along with many others, plus the grand auction symbol?
200-400 Dollars


Being Kadesha? Priceless! :bleh:


theres some things money cant buy, for everything else, there's Paypal :shrug:



It's not like I sent you a bill, but
thanks for your bump.
whadya mean NOT a Persona?

Now go over and gripe aboutthe price of my +35 HCP 11 lb torso plate an bump there too please

Gail

[FinisWolf]

Kadesha ...

I gotta say, I hate to see you go, and I am happy for you that you are doing what is going to make you happy.

Now the BUT ...

But, who in their right (or left for that matter) mind would ever buy Kadesha? She is known across the realm. EVERYONE would know that she is bought, and I do mena EVERYONE (except the new n00b that GS rarely gets now days, and even then...). So if someone were to buy Kadesha, she would be some locker character most likely just to avoid the looks and whispers etc.

I VOTE keep Kadesha, and sell the rest. And you said it yourself ...



Being Kadesha? Priceless! :bleh:


Finis

[Methais]

Kadesha ...

I gotta say, I hate to see you go, and I am happy for you that you are doing what is going to make you happy.

Now the BUT ...

But, who in their right (or left for that matter) mind would ever buy Kadesha? She is known across the realm. EVERYONE would know that she is bought, and I do mena EVERYONE (except the new n00b that GS rarely gets now days, and even then...). So if someone were to buy Kadesha, she would be some locker character most likely just to avoid the looks and whispers etc.

I VOTE keep Kadesha, and sell the rest. And you said it yourself ...



Finis

I don't think most buyers would care anymore if people know they're a bought character or not.

And what's the deal with the loot sack?

[Sean of the Thread]

Nobody gives a shit about buying/selling characters. This isn't 1995.

[Methais]

This isn't 1995.

I feel old.

[FinisWolf]

Nobody gives a shit about buying/selling characters. This isn't 1995.

Hostile much?

Finis

[Sean of the Thread]

Hostile much?

Finis

What's hostile about it? Simply stated that nobody gives a shit anymore.

[Nieninque]

Hostile much?

Finis

Defensive much?

[Sthrockmorton]

I love waking up and seeing I somehow managed to make a post after getting home from the bars last night...

PS.
Bump

[Kadesha]

I love waking up and seeing I somehow managed to make a post after getting home from the bars last night...

PS.
Bump

But you type better drunk then I do sober heh.

[FinisWolf]

Defensive much?

Not at all. ;) Just thought all he cuss words came across rather hostile over something that would seemingly not need the hostility. Guess I was wrong. :)

Finis

[Methais]

Not at all. ;) Just thought all he cuss words came across rather hostile over something that would seemingly not need the hostility. Guess I was wrong. :)

Finis

I thought it was the "This isn't 1995" part that got you.

[FinisWolf]

:)

Nope.

Finis

[Sean of the Thread]

Sorry the word SHIT offended you and came off as hostile.



Fucker.

[Sthrockmorton]

Some people just lack the vocabulary to use other words

[Methais]

poopies

[FinisWolf]

You assume to much. As I stated before. Didn't bother me in the least. :)

Finis

[Kadesha]

By the way, Thanks to The Eschaton for their fascinating answer about their name, and all that interesting stuff.

This is not really a bump. nope.. couldnt be that

Gail

[Daniel]

Some people just lack the vocabulary to use other words

Some people aren't so stuck up that they feel the need to prove their self worth through displaying a big vocabulary.

[Methais]

Some people just lack the vocabulary to use other words

That reminds me of like when someone starts a fight with you in GS and you kill them, and then they go "ZOMG U KILLED ME CUZ U LACK THE WIT TO FIGHT WITH WORDZ SO THAT MEANS I WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111"

It makes me go
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/8468a5a1.gif

[Kadesha]

I may auction the coveted loot sack seperately. My current prospective buyer is happy to not get it in order to pay less for the character.

I will know more in a couple weeks on that, as this person is on temporary military maneuvers. If her buy offer is a positive when she's back, then be watching for that sack.

Gail

[Kriztian]

I know it's so, however, I choose to imagine that it 'ain't so.' Grace, NOBODY out there can fill your shoes. NOBODY. I am categorically opposed to this decision. Please reconsider. You were/are too important. Whatever you decide, know that you are appreciated/loved/revered/honored. Seriously.

~Kriztian

[TheEschaton]

The days of any character being "important" are long gone.

-TheE-

[Kadesha]

I know it's so, however, I choose to imagine that it 'ain't so.' Grace, NOBODY out there can fill your shoes. NOBODY. I am categorically opposed to this decision. Please reconsider. You were/are too important. Whatever you decide, know that you are appreciated/loved/revered/honored. Seriously.

~Kriztian

Very Kind thoughts Kriztian.

I think the E's reply is true though. No character is THAT important.

Indeed, nobody else can be Kadesha like I was Kadesha.. but there is a 99 percent chance the new one will type better.

There is a 100 percent chance that as much as I have enjoyed gemstone, and still do, it is, afterall, just a game. I went for 6 months without logging into it even once. Elanthia did not come crashing down in a pile of rubble. Lorminstra wasn't eaten by Luukos because Kade wasn't there to defend her. Dead people got raised, unblessed people got blessed, friends were made, friends lost.

The worst thing I feel about character sales is the shock that happens when last weeks best friend becomes this weeks perfect stranger. I have been very open about this coming, and made an effort to find my in game friends, which are too numerous for me to possibly personally catch up to them all.. to give them forewarning.

High profile characters have changed hands before. While it is jarring, it is afterall, just a game. It only hurts a little then fades.

My hopes and aspirations in life now extend far beyond Elanthia, and the proceeds from my sales will help me pursue a long time passion for photography, as well as free me more fully to walk in my faith with far less distracting pull from what has become a habit hard to break.

Gail

[Kriztian]

Well, then, you have my blessings and wishes for all the best. I certainly can understand moving on, as I have done just that (gads-what's it been? 2 years I think since I walked). But nobody will ever inhabit the character 'Kriztian.' As for my 5 others, meh. Perhaps you'll see them here soon enough. Good luck on the photography, and be sure to share your hero shots with us!

[Ilvane]

Just because one person does it doesn't mean it's right for others. I agree I could never sell my characters, they would just be retired if I left. I couldn't imagine anyone else being my girls.

Angela

[Askip]

>My singing link:
http://bix.yahoo.com/entry/57714

Heya Angela. Beautiful voice, could you post a direct link to your voting page? There are 900+ entries and only 15 display per page.

Gail, the best of luck to you!!!

:D

[Alfster]

Do you people seriously get emotionally attached to your characters?

If so, you may want to see a therapist.

[The Factor]

Look on the bright side, at least you were a well loved character...I've been playing ten years, and nobody even knows who I am. So, it's not all bad. You've lived in the house, but now it's time to move out and get your own place. Totally understandable, and I wish you luck.

[Trouble]

Do you people seriously get emotionally attached to your characters?

If so, you may want to see a therapist.

I don't really see any problem with getting emotionally attached to something you spent 10 years working on/with. I'm not talking crying or anything, but I identify with how Kriztian said he could see selling off his alts but never his main. I feel the same way about my GS characters even though I haven't really played in almost 2 years now. Well that and since I still sometimes attend GS gatherings it would be weird seeing someone else wearing my main's name on a tag, heh.

[Fallen]

If you can justify not caring about something you spend hundreds of dollars on a year, and hundreds of hours on a year and not care in the slightest I suggest spending your money a bit more wisely.

P.S.

Some morons name their car.

:shrug:

[Ilvane]

Eh, I just think it's an attachement to the character, sure. It's not just property to me, if that's what you mean.

I think it's my personal character, and no one can be her like me.

:shrug:

Skip, that contest is a face off so there are like 1000 people in it..unfortunately it's hard to vote..lol..But thank you for the compliment!

Angela

[Sthrockmorton]

It may be a game, but you still interact with people, and with a specific persona, so there are plenty of reasons to get personally attatched.
If you ask me, the whole point of playing a MUD is for the personal touch that you can't get in a graphic MMORPG.
If you don't care about the game, then as Fallen said, maybe you should spend your money a lil more wisely.

PS.
Anyone think its remotely ironic that a guy with an avatar of Mario tapping Princess from behind is telling people to see a therapist?

[Lianon]

Posting a World of Warcraft sig in a GSIV forum is really cool!

[Celephais]

Posting a World of Warcraft sig in a GSIV forum is really cool!

... I'd say this forum consists of about 10% GS related stuff...

That and we have the whole WoW folder...

[Alfster]

If you can justify not caring about something you spend hundreds of dollars on a year, and hundreds of hours on a year and not care in the slightest I suggest spending your money a bit more wisely.

P.S.

Some morons name their car.

:shrug:

Not once did I spend hundreds of dollars a year on gemstone, I find that laughable.

[Alfster]

Posting a World of Warcraft sig in a GSIV forum is really cool!

I'm assuming that you've noticed that a large portion of the boards play warcraft.

[AestheticDeath]

$12.50? Howd you get a discount?

[Fallen]

He would then say, I pay over a hundred, but not hundreds. Is it really worth it to explain to the guy why some people would be attached to their character for whatever reason? I've come to realize, no.

[Sthrockmorton]

yeah, that's why i deleted the post, the whole hundred(s)

[Alfster]

He would then say, I pay over a hundred, but not hundreds. Is it really worth it to explain to the guy why some people would be attached to their character for whatever reason? I've come to realize, no.

My point is that it's sad to be attached to your character. It'd be the same as getting attached to your team in Madden 2007, it makes no fucking sense. yes, I put a shit ton of time into my season on Madden, but that doesn't mean when 2008 comes out I wont switch.

"I couldn't imagine anyone else being my girls."

That line makes it sound like you have invested personal feelings into your character which is laughable. It's a game.

[Alfster]

$12.50? Howd you get a discount?

You assume I've paid for more than 5 or 6 months in a year.

*edit - If you know what you're doing, you can easily play for an extended period without actually paying. I did it for almost a whole year. All it takes is two canceled credit cards (and I know a few others who have used the trick)

;)

[Fallen]

My point is that it's sad to be attached to your character. It'd be the same as getting attached to your team in Madden 2007, it makes no fucking sense. yes, I put a shit ton of time into my season on Madden, but that doesn't mean when 2008 comes out I wont switch.

"I couldn't imagine anyone else being my girls."

That line makes it sound like you have invested personal feelings into your character which is laughable. It's a game.

To each their own, I suppose. I find anyone who would run a scam to gyp Simu out of a few bucks as laughable, among other things.

[Alfster]

It's not a scam, it's a flaw in their billing department.

[Jolena]

I don't think that becoming attached to a character you play in an RPG is much different from authors becoming attached or feeling they have a personal investment in the characters of their own books. Some people, including myself, develop a sense of ownership over time for the characters that they put their creativity into.

On the other hand, I freely admit that the characters that I don't spend much time putting creativity into, via roleplaying on a regular basis because I don't play them often, are the ones that I am not concerned about giving up. All of my alternative characters that I only use for a utility, or for a locker body, I would not blink twice at giving up. Whereas with Jolena, I feel that I have invested a great deal of my mind, time, and energy into and yes, I would feel a sense of loss (no matter how small or big) and that's justifiable. At least IMHO.

[RichardCranium]

Don't bother Jolena, some people are too cool for roleplaying games.

[Kriztian]

My point is that it's sad to be attached to your character. It'd be the same as getting attached to your team in Madden 2007, it makes no fucking sense. yes, I put a shit ton of time into my season on Madden, but that doesn't mean when 2008 comes out I wont switch.

"I couldn't imagine anyone else being my girls."

That line makes it sound like you have invested personal feelings into your character which is laughable. It's a game.

C'mon. It's a game, sure, but it's a game that many of us have invested thousands of hours developing a multitude of relationships (some of which, real life, have become genuine friendships). If you can't see that time=value, I don't really know what to say.

I don't play anymore, so it does not effect me but if I was there, and 'Kadesha' walked up to me and ... well, you fill in the rest. She's been a close confidant and friend since at least '96.

At least Grace warned everyone plenty in advance, which is more than a lot of folks have done. And this post in no way is degrading her decision. It is simply something we'll agree to disagree upon.

[Kadesha]

Think I will pipe in on my own feelings about character sales, and why I have decided this course.

First of all, when I first announced I was quitting, I made a farewell post on the official boards, about a year ago or so now, and stated that under no circumstances whatsoever would I ever dream of selling Kadesha.

My reasons for quitting then were the same as they are now. I wish to devote full time to following what is for me the player personally, a higher calling. I feel the time spent as Kadesha seeking to further the cause of Lorminstra, would be much wiser spent as me the player, seeking to fully serve my real life Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Save the grumbles please, I am not about to attempt a sermon here. This is simply MY calling and desire, and it has not left me.

Back to why the sale.. Welp, as anyone who has watched awhile could observe, I failed miserably at quitting. The truth is, I still love Gemstone, and I especially am attached to playing the persona of Kadesha. As for my alts, the attachment is much less, but as for being Kadesha, I have utterly enjoyed it.

Yet that calling on my life remains, and I came to realize that so long as I could have access to Kadesha, I would fail at quitting. I may succeed in staying away for a time, and did manage that much, but I couldn't completely quit. So even if I simply closed the account, I knew I could reactivate it, and would eventually. The truth is, to fully follow my Lord in real life is a struggle. I love Him dearly, but no true Christian will claim that they do not struggle against the passions of the carnal nature. Being Kadesha very much feeds those carnal passions, pride, power, influence, status, fame, etc, yada yada.

In recognition of my own self, I realized that the one thing which would truly ttake my temptation to play gemston away from me, would be seeing someone else as Kadesha. I sympathize with those other players who cannot stand the idea, or who say nobody else can be Kadesha like I was. The part of me loyal to roleplaying finds such a thought anathema.

In short, nothing would make gemstone less attractive to me then logging in and seeing another soul inhabit her body. This is the first reason for selling her. Doing that which I loathe the most as for game play wise, is my temptation cure.

The second reason is simple financial stewardship. Sure, I could simply delete her. I could also re-roll her, and while I would loose all her levels and power, I could still retain the persona, and the persona and roleplay are what I was addicted to more then the levels and power. So re-rolling or deletion were not a sure temptation cure. But financially, I must ask anyone here.. excluding the filthy rich...

.. If you have an asset, which you know someone somewhere would pay you say a thousand dollars or more for, and that to sell that assett is not an immoral act in itself, say, like crack cocaine might be, although I think the addiction is as strong.. would you think it wise to simply.. throw the asset away?

I cannot do this. Some may not realize, but this player has been on disability many many years, which is why I had so many hours to play the game for so long. I have too much free time on my hands. It bothers me that I am subsiting off of social security instead of being a gainful contributor to society, however a combination of lack of work skills and a continuing need for certain medications which allow me to live relatively pain free, leave me rather unemployable.

However, the good Lord saw fit to gift me with a very keen eye for photography, and as well I love doing it. What I have not been blessed with is loads of extra money in order to own the camera equipment needed to pursue this vocation professionally. I have the skill, not the gear. I cannot count the times when I had the perfect shot available to me, but my current camera simply lacked the ability to take that sort of shot. I often travel around simply seeing images as though composed through a lens, and it is simply amazing how often even ordinary common every day things can become works of art, in the hands of a gifted photographer... and then my cheapo camera, it cannot handle the task.

I am using all of my sale proceeds to purchase a high end digital SLR camera and all the lenses and accessories needed to be operational. I will be using my new free time instead of playing gemstone, taking pictures, and studying photography. I am strong on the composition artsy side of it but need to learn alot about the technical side, and as for marketing my work, I know didly, although friends from gemstone have already been helpful to me in pointing me to resources to aid me in that aspect of the business.

If I never sell a single photograph, I will still have awesome satisfaction from it just as a hobby, and it is not a hobby which would derail me from my walking after my Lord, in fact, with His blessing, I may even be able to use it to His glory.

Thus again, while the roleplaying part of me feels yucky about selling out, that part of me who lives in Reality, sees it as the choice I must make, and chose to make, not with regret but with joy and hopefulness for my new endeavors. It is not a choice I made spontaneously, but deliverated over for a long time.

My only regrets are how let down some here feel because I have chosen to sell out. I feel regret because I am sympathetic with their dismay. I do indeed understand being attached to a character, and for all who claim they haven't or, think it's silly, I imagine they never roleplayed, just .. played.

I also found over the years that probably the very worst thing when a well known character changed hands, was when it happened without warning, when last weeks friend is this weeks stranger, or worse, last weeks friend is this weeks snert. I have gone out of my way in game and here to try and forwarn as many as I can find that this is coming.

While I do not have yet a firm buyer for Kadesha, I do have a probable buyer. The buyer is not like me, she won't be near as much into roleplay. She won't be me and knows she can't be and won't even try to be. However, she IS someone who knows the game well, is not a snert, tends with her primary character now to treat people decently, and she won't take Kadesha and make her into someone everyone wishes they could kill. She also knows that people will know she bought the character. As far as I am concerned, the best roleplayer out there, (and that someone is far better at it than I ever was), knows they could not be Kadesha the way I was Kadesha. Why even try? Last, she knows and appreciates that I am forwarning everyone I can. Rather then be bothered by this, I imagine it will save her alot of whispers to answer and other awkward moments.

So, this is the why. For all who wondered if I lost my mind, I haven't. For those angry with my choice, I am sorry, but I must do what I believe is the best course for reality. For all those who remain friends I am grateful, and will be keeping my LdyKadesha AIM and LdyKadesha@aol e-mail as I will still be online often, and otherwise at my computer, using digital image software on photographs.

I am not the best letter writer, but I have made many friendships here that have extended beyond Elanthia, and hope to continue those friendships. And for all who simply dislike me and always have, such folk used to bother me but not anymore. I seek and know I have the love of my Lord, I also have the love of my husband and family and friends. I have self respect, and so do not need the approval of others anymore, although I did for many years. I have been healed of many things.

And so, here I have revealed more than was alot of your business, but I am not ashamed of anything here, so whatever helps answer those who actually care was worth sharing.

And last, I am in the process of adopting another dog from rescue, as two dogs aren't enough. So soon along with my big dog and medium sized dog, I will have a new toy sized dog to take pictures of. I am awaiting my home visit for adoption approval, having already passed the dog park and vet check visit with flying colors. Dog heaven is being a Grace dog, I know my home will be approved, as I am already an approved foster home. The dog needs some medical care first, and someone else is also co,pteting with me for adoption. I think I will beat them out, I hope so, as my husband and I, and even my big doggie, are already in love with the girl shit-tzu in question.

Gail

[CrystalTears]

1) Regardless of whether this is a game or not, you still put in time and money, regardless of the amount, to create a character. Yes, you get attached to it. Several people don't sell because they don't want to see the character they created played by anyone else.

2) Kadesha cliff notes: I'm quitting. I want money to buy camera gear. I figured out I can get it by selling Kadesha, therefore I'm selling out.

I just came to see if she was sold yet. Didn't think there would be this dealio going on.

[Celephais]

Holy fuck, wall of text... We need an aneurysm emoticon.

[Slark]

I think the more appropriate emoticon is :cry: - it takes like 3 minutes to read a long post (about three times longer than it does to make a reply like yours)...if you have something better to do, you probably shouldn't be reading the boards in the first place. Sorry, pet peeve of mine.

Wow, just found my favorite emoticion

:jerkit:

[Celephais]

It took two seconds to write my smartass post... and I'm reading these boards because I'm bored, if I read that wall of text I'll be more bored... why would I want to do that, I live in amercia, instant fucking gratification, I can't wait three minutes for gratification (that's right, free shot), I want it now.

[Artha]

Wall of text implies one whole paragraph. That was just a long ass post.

[Celephais]

Wall of text implies one whole paragraph. That was just a long ass post.

Yeah... that's true... but I don't know how much the carraige returns helped it, when it can occupy my whole screen at once, it's a freaking wall.

[Asha]

I don't 'really' miss any of my characters, not even the one I spent years training up.
As I moved houses, locations, schools and jobs throughout just under a decade I always had that character to play and immerse myself in when I had proper nothing else becouse I'd been left on my own in a strange job, in the middle of a strange city.
So while I don't miss him / them, I still definately feel a cirtain sense of loss.
It's a feeling comparable to losing a pet, to me.
Something that amused me and took my mind off being alone when I was, has gone.

There's this thing almost all Ex-GSers get when they've quit. . there's a point when they automaticly think of GS and maybe even peruse the site and read a bit of news since they don't have an account. Maybe just daydream for a few about when they did play it.
And it's always at a moment when you've fuck all to do and that's when you would have played and lost hours. It forces me to do something else, something more constructive.
I think everyone senses the loss of their in game social life and amusement etc etc. But saying they'll miss their character emotionally is is harder for me to understand. Speaking through experience.

[Slark]

I can't wait three minutes for gratification (that's right, free shot), I want it now.

Even though it was a free shot, how can I resist the urge to use my new favorite emoticon? :jerkit:

[Kadesha]

Wall of text implies one whole paragraph. That was just a long ass post.

I know, it was.

You cannot imagine how much time that saved me too, for answering the hundreds of 'why' questions I have received privately.

Now I can jes whisper this post into the ear of everyone who asks me, save me alotta typing which I suck at.

Gail

[TheEschaton]

I follow Jesus Christ just fine whilst being a devout follower of Charl in game. ;)

Edited to add: But I'm Catholic, we accept a lot of grey areas and equivocacies.

-TheE-

[The Factor]

Catholics accept grey areas? I thought they only accepted molesting priests...

[Asha]

Fucking ZING

[TheEschaton]

That's a pretty grey area, wouldn't ya say? ;)

-TheE-

[The Factor]

more like a dirty pink...

[Kadesha]

Updated to note some changes in inventory, skills, training points and bounty points, and to lower price.

[Charactersforsale]

Think I will pipe in on my own feelings about character sales, and why I have decided this course.

First of all, when I first announced I was quitting, I made a farewell post on the official boards, about a year ago or so now, and stated that under no circumstances whatsoever would I ever dream of selling Kadesha.

My reasons for quitting then were the same as they are now. I wish to devote full time to following what is for me the player personally, a higher calling. I feel the time spent as Kadesha seeking to further the cause of Lorminstra, would be much wiser spent as me the player, seeking to fully serve my real life Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Save the grumbles please, I am not about to attempt a sermon here. This is simply MY calling and desire, and it has not left me.

Back to why the sale.. Welp, as anyone who has watched awhile could observe, I failed miserably at quitting. The truth is, I still love Gemstone, and I especially am attached to playing the persona of Kadesha. As for my alts, the attachment is much less, but as for being Kadesha, I have utterly enjoyed it.

Yet that calling on my life remains, and I came to realize that so long as I could have access to Kadesha, I would fail at quitting. I may succeed in staying away for a time, and did manage that much, but I couldn't completely quit. So even if I simply closed the account, I knew I could reactivate it, and would eventually. The truth is, to fully follow my Lord in real life is a struggle. I love Him dearly, but no true Christian will claim that they do not struggle against the passions of the carnal nature. Being Kadesha very much feeds those carnal passions, pride, power, influence, status, fame, etc, yada yada.

In recognition of my own self, I realized that the one thing which would truly ttake my temptation to play gemston away from me, would be seeing someone else as Kadesha. I sympathize with those other players who cannot stand the idea, or who say nobody else can be Kadesha like I was. The part of me loyal to roleplaying finds such a thought anathema.

In short, nothing would make gemstone less attractive to me then logging in and seeing another soul inhabit her body. This is the first reason for selling her. Doing that which I loathe the most as for game play wise, is my temptation cure.

The second reason is simple financial stewardship. Sure, I could simply delete her. I could also re-roll her, and while I would loose all her levels and power, I could still retain the persona, and the persona and roleplay are what I was addicted to more then the levels and power. So re-rolling or deletion were not a sure temptation cure. But financially, I must ask anyone here.. excluding the filthy rich...

.. If you have an asset, which you know someone somewhere would pay you say a thousand dollars or more for, and that to sell that assett is not an immoral act in itself, say, like crack cocaine might be, although I think the addiction is as strong.. would you think it wise to simply.. throw the asset away?

I cannot do this. Some may not realize, but this player has been on disability many many years, which is why I had so many hours to play the game for so long. I have too much free time on my hands. It bothers me that I am subsiting off of social security instead of being a gainful contributor to society, however a combination of lack of work skills and a continuing need for certain medications which allow me to live relatively pain free, leave me rather unemployable.

However, the good Lord saw fit to gift me with a very keen eye for photography, and as well I love doing it. What I have not been blessed with is loads of extra money in order to own the camera equipment needed to pursue this vocation professionally. I have the skill, not the gear. I cannot count the times when I had the perfect shot available to me, but my current camera simply lacked the ability to take that sort of shot. I often travel around simply seeing images as though composed through a lens, and it is simply amazing how often even ordinary common every day things can become works of art, in the hands of a gifted photographer... and then my cheapo camera, it cannot handle the task.

I am using all of my sale proceeds to purchase a high end digital SLR camera and all the lenses and accessories needed to be operational. I will be using my new free time instead of playing gemstone, taking pictures, and studying photography. I am strong on the composition artsy side of it but need to learn alot about the technical side, and as for marketing my work, I know didly, although friends from gemstone have already been helpful to me in pointing me to resources to aid me in that aspect of the business.

If I never sell a single photograph, I will still have awesome satisfaction from it just as a hobby, and it is not a hobby which would derail me from my walking after my Lord, in fact, with His blessing, I may even be able to use it to His glory.

Thus again, while the roleplaying part of me feels yucky about selling out, that part of me who lives in Reality, sees it as the choice I must make, and chose to make, not with regret but with joy and hopefulness for my new endeavors. It is not a choice I made spontaneously, but deliverated over for a long time.

My only regrets are how let down some here feel because I have chosen to sell out. I feel regret because I am sympathetic with their dismay. I do indeed understand being attached to a character, and for all who claim they haven't or, think it's silly, I imagine they never roleplayed, just .. played.

I also found over the years that probably the very worst thing when a well known character changed hands, was when it happened without warning, when last weeks friend is this weeks stranger, or worse, last weeks friend is this weeks snert. I have gone out of my way in game and here to try and forwarn as many as I can find that this is coming.

While I do not have yet a firm buyer for Kadesha, I do have a probable buyer. The buyer is not like me, she won't be near as much into roleplay. She won't be me and knows she can't be and won't even try to be. However, she IS someone who knows the game well, is not a snert, tends with her primary character now to treat people decently, and she won't take Kadesha and make her into someone everyone wishes they could kill. She also knows that people will know she bought the character. As far as I am concerned, the best roleplayer out there, (and that someone is far better at it than I ever was), knows they could not be Kadesha the way I was Kadesha. Why even try? Last, she knows and appreciates that I am forwarning everyone I can. Rather then be bothered by this, I imagine it will save her alot of whispers to answer and other awkward moments.

So, this is the why. For all who wondered if I lost my mind, I haven't. For those angry with my choice, I am sorry, but I must do what I believe is the best course for reality. For all those who remain friends I am grateful, and will be keeping my LdyKadesha AIM and LdyKadesha@aol e-mail as I will still be online often, and otherwise at my computer, using digital image software on photographs.

I am not the best letter writer, but I have made many friendships here that have extended beyond Elanthia, and hope to continue those friendships. And for all who simply dislike me and always have, such folk used to bother me but not anymore. I seek and know I have the love of my Lord, I also have the love of my husband and family and friends. I have self respect, and so do not need the approval of others anymore, although I did for many years. I have been healed of many things.

And so, here I have revealed more than was alot of your business, but I am not ashamed of anything here, so whatever helps answer those who actually care was worth sharing.

And last, I am in the process of adopting another dog from rescue, as two dogs aren't enough. So soon along with my big dog and medium sized dog, I will have a new toy sized dog to take pictures of. I am awaiting my home visit for adoption approval, having already passed the dog park and vet check visit with flying colors. Dog heaven is being a Grace dog, I know my home will be approved, as I am already an approved foster home. The dog needs some medical care first, and someone else is also co,pteting with me for adoption. I think I will beat them out, I hope so, as my husband and I, and even my big doggie, are already in love with the girl shit-tzu in question.

Gail

I can dig it. Well wishes Kadesha, makes sense to me.

P.S. Sorry PCers, had to do it!