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Zir
11-21-2003, 08:37 PM
How much armor training do you need to have for brigandine now?

Latrinsorm
11-21-2003, 08:45 PM
27 ranks for the RT, Minor Spirit, and Ranger.

35 ranks for the Major Spirit, Cleric, Minor Elemental, Empath, and Bard.

Any other class you can't possibly fully train away the hindrance. (Wizards are teh suck.) Unless you got a potion for armor training in your giftbox.

Artha
11-21-2003, 09:16 PM
45 ranks for maneuver penalty.

Adhara
11-21-2003, 09:49 PM
Where did you guys get those numbers? Figure them out testing or is there a reference table somewhere?

I'm looking for the numbers for chainmail (torso).

Artha
11-21-2003, 10:07 PM
I tested using my set of brig and sweep for my number.

Latrinsorm
11-21-2003, 11:42 PM
I can't make a good table here, but Chain is 35 for RT/MnS/Ranger, 50 for Cleric/Empath/MjS/MnE/Bard. I got these from the offiboards where some god among men posted them. I don't know maneuver penalties, try Artha's methord.