Self Mana Call Wind - MB 20m

[bubbauno]

Gonna auction this off too since it's just sitting in my locker.. Will update daily and go once, twice, last call and then sold.

Remember you do NOT have to swing this weapon. It is much more effective to create a simple command script to get it out, raise it and put it away within seconds.

an enruned ora pilum - MB 20m CB 22.2m to Hawkkill twice

Self Mana Call Wind
Single mana (12)
No failure or curse
Weighs 5
No training required

You raise your ora pilum in triumph!
Mystical energies race across the surface of the pilum.
A gust of wind tugs at your sleeves. Suddenly, a fierce wind rips through the area, scattering everything in its path and making it difficult to remain standing.
A siren is knocked over by the wind.
The wind then subsides.
You feel a draining sensation from the ora pilum.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


Loresong:

As you sing, your vision starts to cloud as you sing to the ora pilum in your hands. Slowly, your eyes seem to refocus, but you are no long where you were but a moment before. Standing before you, an ancient wizard with a long white beard, argues pointedly with a well-muscled blacksmith apparently over how to forge something.

As you continue to sing, your vision clouds once more, you see the blacksmith sweating profusely as he works tirelessly upon the lump of metal before him. Slowly the metal starts to take shape in the heart of the forge due to the skill of the master blacksmith.

As you continue to sing, you see the ancient wizard standing beside the blacksmith as he works upon the slowly forming metal. Whispering words of power, which can barely be heard, but are quickly forgotten, the magician lends his skills to the forging.

Your song continues to bring forth images from the past. The blacksmiths hammer rings loudly as it strikes the pilum, while the wizard sends forth a stream of shimmering silver light into the pilum. Finally, they are done, as the blacksmith raises the ora pilum above his head, mystical energies playing across its surface.


Feel free to make bids here, email me at bubbauno@aol.com or IM me at bubbauno.

Thanks,
Tsin

[bubbauno]

20m to Windi

[Khariz]

20m to Windi

Punny!

[Celephais]

Grrr, no breaking the 24 hour bump rule.

[bubbauno]

20m to Windi goin once

[Celephais]

SKEET HIM SKEET!

[bubbauno]

Can't believe you guys are letting Windi get this for so cheap.. Last two times it has sold was for 40 and 50m..

[StrayRogue]

It's a pilum...

[Warriorbird]

Uhh. I did not pay 40 or 50 or sell for anywhere near that. Windi may be a different story.

[The Ponzzz]

I could have owned this years ago for 15mil.

[bubbauno]

Who cares if it's a pilum.. Nobody would be stupid enough to actually swing it. At least it's not a 20 lb battle axe like the self mana 117 I just sold.

[StrayRogue]

I'd think a halfing with no polearm training would care it's a pilum dumbass.

[bubbauno]

If you can't survive for the 2 seconds the command script takes it takes to get it out, raise it and put it away.. You suck.

[StrayRogue]

If you can't survive without playing the game perma-hasted, with bought characters and twenty MA's...you suck.

Besides saying if you get hit in the 2 seconds it takes makes you a loser is fucking stupid. If that were true wizards would never die.

[bubbauno]

Same risk involved every time you pick up a box.. I think most people can handle it for the reward of call winding the room.

[Celephais]

Tree Bark Amulet - 400-10k silvers in player shops. We'll be generous and say 3k.
Wizard to imbed it w/ 3 charges of call wind - 2k.

5k for 3 rubs (no need to put items away, requires MIU, but not 12 mana, I'll say fair trade there). You could do much better than this if you did them in bulk.

It will take 12,000 uses of this pilum to pay for the 20M pricetag. Weight/hassle traded for "risk of pulling out pilum", however many ranks of MIU for not needing to worry about training in HP or having the mana to use it when you need it.

Edit: forgot about potion costs for embedding... someone give me a fair figure for a 912 amulet? 10k would be ridiculous and it would still require 6,000 uses of the pilum to pay for itself.

[bubbauno]

3 charges per amulet? Would need like 50 amulets for one hunt.. Much better to have unlimited.

[StrayRogue]

You need to call wind every monster?

Wait you need to kill 100 mobs to fry?

What kind of fucking mental reject are you?

[CrystalTears]

Who the hell casts call wind 150 times during a hunt?

[StrayRogue]

Who the hell has the mana to cast 150 call winds?????

[BadIdea]

20m to Windi goin twice

[Tea & Strumpets]

912's effectiveness is partially based on wizard spell ranks in the 900 circle, so I doubt anyone with 0 ranks in the 900 circle is going to get a lot of use out of this.

Good wizard pilum, though.

[Celephais]

3 charges per amulet? Would need like 50 amulets for one hunt.. Much better to have unlimited.

So you expect the person to spend 1,800 mana per hunt?


Good wizard pilum, though.

Useless for wizards, already have the spell, mana cost is the same.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Useless for wizards, already have the spell, mana cost is the same.

I was TRYING to make a funny. Damn internetz.

:comp:

[CrystalTears]

Irish people don't know how to be funny.

[Tea & Strumpets]

Irish people don't know how to be funny.

Don't hate me cause I'm green.

[Celephais]

Irish people don't know how to be funny.

Sure they do!
http://www.beerzombie.com/images/missireland.jpg
Miss Ireland - 2007

... T&S my sarcasm detector is broken :(

[CrystalTears]

I laugh, actually. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/leprechaun.jpg<-- Self Mana Call Wind stick

[The Ponzzz]

Tsin's a good guy, you should all stop.

[allen]

Irish people don't know how to be funny.

HAHAHA yea right, us irish are the funniest motherfuckers out there, all the jobs I've had half the time I was working with another irish dude and we had each other rollin all day, just gettin stupid :)

[CrystalTears]

My bad. I should have said "Irish people named Dar don't know how to be funny." :D

[bubbauno]

20m to Windi goin twice

[allen]

2 days later...

[bubbauno]

You have a problem with me updating every day? First bid was on the 20th, going once was yesterday.. I'd be glad to change it to weekly updates if that's what you want.

[Celephais]

... isn't it "going once" when the bid is made? Let me guess, it's "bid, once, twice, thrice, sold"? so 96 hours later? Christ. If I were you I would go sold on this right now in hopes that Windi doesn't check the thread and realize what a craptastic item they've bid on and retract.

[The Ponzzz]

Guys, he can update the posts every 2 hours, but it doesn't mean that is an UPDATE. Tsin's a swell guy.

[Sean of the Thread]

912's effectiveness is partially based on wizard spell ranks in the 900 circle, so I doubt anyone with 0 ranks in the 900 circle is going to get a lot of use out of this.

Good wizard pilum, though.

This deserves bumping.

[bubbauno]

I have zero ranks and can call wind sirens, mages, executioners, combatants and radicals in the temple.. It is based more on level than ranks.

[The Ponzzz]

WHen I was going to buy it with my warrior, I tried call winding on tralis and vor'taz(which I was 10 over) and MAYBE got one to knock over.

So I decided that it just wasn't going to work for what I wanted and figured the 15mil was just too much.

[Sean of the Thread]

E M B E D

[allen]

I'll give Windi 25 haste amulets if she doesn't buy it

[Tea & Strumpets]

I have zero ranks and can call wind sirens, mages, executioners, combatants and radicals in the temple.. It is based more on level than ranks.


Well since you're the most notorious scammer in the game, have a horrible reputation as a merchant, and since you've freely admitted your willingness to lie or impersonate a GM in order to make a sale --- I think I'll take your anecdotal evidence with a grain of salt.

LOL @ Tsin thinking that his vouching for an item means anything.

[Stealth]

I owned this for a while before Tsin and had no trouble using it to knock things down even after the tweak to include wizard ranks (Fire Mages, Rift and OTF, it really kicked ass in Fire Mages). I probably would not have sold it but I got my ewave item which is wearable. Good item for a square or semi IMO.


Stealth

[StrayRogue]

I wouldn't say square, as most squares don't have loads of mana. But then I wouldn't say semi either as semi's have their own knockdown spells.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I owned this for a while before Tsin and had no trouble using it to knock things down even after the tweak to include wizard ranks (Fire Mages, Rift and OTF, it really kicked ass in Fire Mages). I probably would not have sold it but I got my ewave item which is wearable. Good item for a square or semi IMO.-Stealth

You owned it when you were like-level with fire mages? I thought that you were close to the cap when OTF was first introduced. Level is a bigger factor than wizard ranks, but who needs call wind when you are fighting below your level?

My most memorable time hunting OTF with your GS character was around the time OTF was introduced. Your small statue set off spellburst, and you started grumbling about how that shouldn't happen. Then the next day, small statues weren't included in the spell burst formula.

[bubbauno]

Why can't people just bid normal amounts? 22.2m to some weirdo named Hawkkill from officials

[Celephais]

So you copied what you had just posted, posted it again, and then deleted the old post? Asinine.

[Sean of the Thread]

I owned this for a while before Tsin and had no trouble using it to knock things down even after the tweak to include wizard ranks (Fire Mages, Rift and OTF, it really kicked ass in Fire Mages). I probably would not have sold it but I got my ewave item which is wearable. Good item for a square or semi IMO.


Stealth

So you're saying that

1) a call wind pilum for 20-25 million silvers is a better investment (rofl) than a wearable embedded call wind amulet?

2) Tsin's cock fits nicely in your mouth.

[bubbauno]

You quit GS and sold out right Sean? Yet you still post here why? To attack the opinion of a GM who probably knows more and used more items than anyone else in the game besides Warden.. Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber.

[StrayRogue]

I doubt he's as dumb as someone who needs to cast call wind 150 times a hunt.

[Sean of the Thread]

I doubt he's as dumb as someone who needs to cast call wind 150 times a hunt.

and Rofl x2 at Tsin calling anyone dumb.

And yes Stealth lost some respect with his stupid ass post in this thread.

[bubbauno]

I usually hunt for an hour straight and use ewave/call wind way more than 150 times

[StrayRogue]

Yes, because normal people have a) no lives and b) hunt for hours straight.

Cock.

[bubbauno]

Going once to Hawk

[Sean of the Thread]

I usually hunt for an hour straight and use ewave/call wind way more than 150 times

There is no way you could stow your gear... pull this stupid fucking pilum out and activate and put it back and pull out your gear again waaaaaaaay more than 150 times in a hour. Especially without fucking something up along the way (death).

You sir are a serious douche. You should focus on something else like getting pussy. It tastes great.

[Celephais]

There is no way you could stow your gear... pull this stupid fucking pilum out and activate and put it back and pull out your gear again waaaaaaaay more than 150 times in a hour. Especially without fucking something up along the way (death).

Rofl... so within that hour you're in call winding/ewaving cast RT for 7 1/2 minutes?

Once every 24 seconds... absolutely retarded. 1,800 mana, that's 30 mana a minute, or 60 mana a pulse, off node. Rogues can only 1x HP, meaning 310ish mana or 47 mana a pulse off node, unless you've got 130 ranks of various mana control, you can't pull it off. Learn2Math.

[GS4-D]

Rofl... so within that hour you're in call winding/ewaving cast RT for 7 1/2 minutes?

Once every 24 seconds... absolutely retarded. 1,800 mana, that's 30 mana a minute, or 60 mana a pulse, off node. Rogues can only 1x HP, meaning 310ish mana or 47 mana a pulse off node, unless you've got 130 ranks of various mana control, you can't pull it off. Learn2Math.

He hunts with a wizard slave, so he has the mana between his rogue and wizard.

[Celephais]

He hunts with a wizard slave, so he has the mana between his rogue and wizard.

Good point, he drags around the wizard to send him mana so that he can put away his equipment and raise his call wind pilum...

(if you detected any venom in that post, it wasn't directed at you... it's again showing how absurd any claim he makes about his experience and the usefuless of this item are)

[Tea & Strumpets]

Haha, Tsin threads are awesome.

[bubbauno]

First off I use a bow so I already have an open hand.. Second I have 300 mana with full share and my wiz has 450 mana and can wrack. I can't believe you are seriously trying to say I don't have the mana to use it that much or that easily. Go bother someone elses thread.

[Celephais]

First off I use a bow so I already have an open hand.. Second I have 300 mana with full share and my wiz has 450 mana and can wrack. I can't believe you are seriously trying to say I don't have the mana to use it that much or that easily. Go bother someone elses thread.

Right, and with the wizard there I'm sure it was a wonderful addition to your hunting skillset. Full share, as in 102 skill in elemental, or as in 303 total ranks in the three mana controls, because unless it's the later you still don't have enough on your own to use it more than 150 times in an hour hunt... lets not forget the need to refresh your selfcast spells during that hour long hunt too.

So your target market is a square with a mana battery following them around?

[Crippler]

apparently theres an idiot with a bid on it.

[Sean of the Thread]

Idiot being the key word.

[Drew]

I think we're missing another important point. He hunts with a frackin wizard, WHAT SPELL CAN WIZARDS CAST?

[Warriorbird]

Shhh.

[Celephais]

I think we're missing another important point. He hunts with a frackin wizard, WHAT SPELL CAN WIZARDS CAST?

Didn't miss it at all... guess I was being too subtle though. That's where the irony in my "target market is a square with a mana battery following them around"

[bubbauno]

going twice to hawk

[Stealth]

You owned it when you were like-level with fire mages? I thought that you were close to the cap when OTF was first introduced. Level is a bigger factor than wizard ranks, but who needs call wind when you are fighting below your level?

My most memorable time hunting OTF with your GS character was around the time OTF was introduced. Your small statue set off spellburst, and you started grumbling about how that shouldn't happen. Then the next day, small statues weren't included in the spell burst formula.

I had the call wind pilum for a while before I went to OTF, way before I was a GM. I don't remember what level exactly, but probably when Reife was transitioning from Pyros to Firemages. I actually got yanked into the CL by Gromial and some of my items got forcibly tweaked. My armor, my satchel and a few other small things. He took a look at my axe and the pilum but didn't mess with them. With the call wind item then (we had mana by level) I could afford to use it for just about every swing, and it was quite useful for getting rid of clouds and knocking things down. I finished up the Eye and moved to the Rift and used it on plane 1. A short while after I got there is when the spell was changed. I kept using it through the rift and then in OTF before I sold it.


So you're saying that

1) a call wind pilum for 20-25 million silvers is a better investment (rofl) than a wearable embedded call wind amulet?

2) Tsin's cock fits nicely in your mouth.

I have no idea what I have done to earn this from you Sean, but whatever, get your cheap little insults in and make yourself feel more the man.

Anyway, I never commented on the investment options. I simply said that even after the call wind tweaks, it was useable on like-age critters by non-wizards. I realize Reife is not the typical square in that he has a lot of mana, but for the squares and semis who do have the mana, and lack a knockdown spell it works well.

The best thing about the call wind item (or any permanent item) versus imbeds is that it is not a depleting resource. In two years from now, it should have the same value (I realize prices change for other reasons) whereas you cannot recoup your money from the amulets.

Now is it worth 20 million? I have no idea. If I needed a knockdown item (which I don't) I don't think 20 million is too much. I am pretty sure I sold it for around 40. But then again my take on items is skewed, some things are pretty much priceless to me while others that other people value a lot are worthless to me.


Stealth

[bubbauno]

Don't take it personally.. Sean bashes everyone and everything because that's all he has left to do. There are quite a few people just like him who don't even play GS anymore but still think they know everything and feel the need to argue with everyone.

[Sean]

Sean2.

[Sean of the Thread]

Don't take it personally.. Sean bashes everyone and everything because that's all he has left to do. There are quite a few people just like him who don't even play GS anymore but still think they know everything and feel the need to argue with everyone.

I hardly bash everyone and everything. I bash some retarded idiots (Tsin) and whomever else deserves it.

I rarely think I know everything but let's recap what I do know.

A)If someone thinks this stupid fucking pilum is worth more over the long run than embedding amulets.. then you're just as stupid as the pilum.

B)Tsin's a GM (rofl)

C)Tsin is a lying piece of shit.

D)Tsin is a crybaby piece of shit.

E)Tsin is fat.


Again Stealth.. I just find it fairly retarded for you to say this item for 25 million is a good weapon for a square over ANY wearable.. embedded or otherwise. It's quite clearly a piece of inflated tsin shit.

Thus how you "earned" the comment as you very aptly stated.

[Gan]

I think we're missing another important point. He hunts with a frackin wizard, WHAT SPELL CAN WIZARDS CAST?
SCORE...


The best thing about the call wind item (or any permanent item) versus imbeds is that it is not a depleting resource. In two years from now, it should have the same value (I realize prices change for other reasons) whereas you cannot recoup your money from the amulets.
The tradeoff is that if you lose an amulet thats depleteable (imbed) then you're not out much; however, if the permanent item is lost then the loss is much more significant. Especially in the day and age where items are stolen, disarmed and stripped off of corpses by critters.


Now is it worth 20 million? I have no idea. If I needed a knockdown item (which I don't) I don't think 20 million is too much. I am pretty sure I sold it for around 40. But then again my take on items is skewed, some things are pretty much priceless to me while others that other people value a lot are worthless to me. Stealth
The value of any item is inherent to the utility placed on it by the person who demands such items. I personally dont think a call wind pilum is of much use to me simply because as a hunting rogue or hunting empath, its not a spell, weapon, or effect that makes up my hunting strategy or weapon inventory. I have simply adapted my strategy to take advantage of the skills and capabilities inherent to the professions I do play not to mention the fact that I also choose to hunt with 1 character, usually without other company - thats by choice.

This reminds me of something someone said once when folks were sitting around the party room at Thraks one day talking up all the fancy gear. This person was a capped character and said that he was just amazed that he had made it through life in the lands with little much more than 4x gear of no special attributes. His biggest expense to date was a set of FGB which he purchased for 4 million (if that gives you any clue as to how long ago it was said). I cant recall the name of the character but I've never forgotten what he said.

[Asha]

I love how tsin laughs at people who post what they think on a message board about him in the sense of ''that's all they have left to do'' when all tsin does is hunt / rest all day and probably drink Mountain Dew while shitting in a bag.
Oh and is a fat wanker.

[Apathy]

This thread is awesome. :popcorn:

[Crippler]

The south park wow episode comes to mind.

[bubbauno]

Repeating the same personal attacks over and over must make you feel like a real winner.. At least I still play the game and actually sell stuff on these boards.. All you do is make fun of people and bash every item you can.. I can only imagine how many people make fun of you for posting 10 times a day in a forum devoted to a game that you quit playing a long time ago.

[Sean of the Thread]

Repeating the same personal attacks over and over must make you feel like a real winner.. At least I still play the game and actually sell stuff on these boards.. All you do is make fun of people and bash every item you can.. I can only imagine how many people make fun of you for posting 10 times a day in a forum devoted to a game that you quit playing a long time ago.

Shit I forgot E) Tsin's a douche nozzle.


AGAIN.. you nor anyone else sees me bashing "every item you can". I do find my self revealing your garbage more than anything.. coincidence?

[Slark]

Tsin, maybe you can explain to people why you use the pilum for call wind instead of having your slave do it? If there's some advantage it might help your sale a bit.

[AestheticDeath]

Easier to control one guy at a time? I would assume his wizards already running a haste script.

[Asha]

Tsin has no trouble 'controlling' two guys at once.
:( I tried to let it go..

[Celephais]

Easier to control one guy at a time? I would assume his wizards already running a haste script.

He'd be a fool not to have his wizard running a smarter script than just haste... or at least be adept at tabbing between his characters...

easy enough to write a script that matches "tsin whispers to you '<password>912" and then cast 912, and set up a script on his box for ".w 912" which just "Whisper wizard <password>%1", in that manner he could set up any number of commands to control his slave..

[The Ponzzz]

Can easily even make a script that call winds anything that enters or is standing. Along with having the same script cast haste, etc.

[Sean of the Thread]

What a dumb game.

[bubbauno]

Last call to Hawk for 22.2.. Will be sold by tomorrow night

[Stealth]

Sean2 since you seem to be just trolling for comments, probably too stupid and/or ugly to actually have a life outside of the BBS...




Again Stealth.. I just find it fairly retarded for you to say this item for 25 million is a good weapon for a square over ANY wearable.. embedded or otherwise. It's quite clearly a piece of inflated tsin shit.

Thus how you "earned" the comment as you very aptly stated.

Again, dipshit, I never commented on whether it was worth 25 million or whether it was better than a wearable... Before you go tossing insults at least learn to fucking read. Let me help you out. Here is what I said:


I owned this for a while before Tsin and had no trouble using it to knock things down even after the tweak to include wizard ranks (Fire Mages, Rift and OTF, it really kicked ass in Fire Mages). I probably would not have sold it but I got my ewave item which is wearable. Good item for a square or semi IMO.

Stealth

So, kindly go smoke a cock, you seem like you would be good at it.


Stealth

[Fallen]

bwahahaha. I wonder if this is how Andraste would respond when we went at it if she had the ability to do so.

[Sean of the Thread]

You appeared in the thread as a schill for Tsin's shit sale. GM brotherhood I guess (HAHAHA).

Any normal person possessing even the simplest of logic can understand why this piece of shit pilum is worth barely over "free" to any square or semi or anyone else for that matter... with the exception being a wizard where you might have to pay them to take it.

You should get back to your prestigious army reserve job of leading our nation's military in being a joke and keep your retarded schill comments out of the merchant forum. Your time is better off spent practicing being a joke if you guys want to keep the lead.

[beer]

You should get back to your prestigious army reserve job of leading our nation's military in being a joke and keep your retarded schill comments out of the merchant forum. Your time is better off spent practicing being a joke if you guys want to keep the lead.

w. t. f.

took some serious fucking skill to make yourself look like a bigger douche than tsin in this thread, but there ya go.

[Brattt8525]

>>You should get back to your prestigious army reserve job of leading our nation's military in being a joke and keep your retarded schill comments out of the merchant forum. Your time is better off spent practicing being a joke if you guys want to keep the lead.<<

All other comments aside, this one was just shitty. Insulting someone/or making light of something that they have vowed to serve/protect is about as low as a person can go.

People in the military do what they are told to do because they took a pledge to protect this country and to take orders. While some people may or may not agree with what is going on to insult the people who serve our country is just crappy.

[TheEschaton]

Blah blah blah pledge to protect blah blah blah let's suck the soldier's cock blah blah blah.

Soldiers are human beings, and are equally subject to ridicule for doing a piss poor job, if they are doing so. Should we excuse their incompetence just because the mass jingoist machine is telling us what they're doing is "honorable"? Fuck that.

I happen to think all the deference we give to soldiers for killing people is amazingly stupid. "Protect this country", ha. People hate America now more than ever due to the actions of our soldiers (but moreover the idiots who command them). We are less safe now than ever.

I know you're in some way related to a soldier, Brattt, so I'm sure you'll take that personally in some way, but consider all the times people call immigrants lazy, stupid assholes trying to steal good ole American jobs, and then ask if I have a right to suppress what those people say about immigrants just because I am one and I find beauty and importance in my culture, and I work hard. The answer is no, so when I call your husband or boyfriend or whoever the fuck a mindless moron for following immoral orders from idiotic men, when he should know better, you shut the hell up and don't pretend your soldier-man is somehow morally superior to everyone else when he consciously breaks one of the oldest tenets of morality ever: "Thou shall not kill." Even if you're one of those conservative apologists who interpret it as thou shall not murder, there's no way you can argue he isn't doing that - and that are no exceptions to that particular moral axiom.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

And yes, I am a raging asshole. I don't apologize for it.

[Fallen]

Heh. Insulting someone who has pledged to be prepared die for his country. Not with words, but in a contract. Would you die for the United States, The E? Would you kill in the name of it? Like him or not, the majority of the United States elected President Bush. That soldier is following the order of a man who the majority of the country elected into power. I'm sorry if you voted against him and lost, but the majority of the country did not. Be angry at them, not at the soldier who stands to serve the United States. Be angry at Bush, not at the soldiers he commands. They swore an oath to Serve, Protect, and Obey the orders of their commanding officers. Bush is one of those officers.

[TheEschaton]

"I would die for a worthy cause, but I would never kill for one, because then it fails to be worthy."
~Gandhi

And I would make the argument that a soldier, by following Dubya's orders, is not serving the United States, but serving G.W. Bush, a man who has proved himself to have no idea of what foreign policy means.

And despite their oath - there is a compulsion within it to serve and protect a larger entity, the U.S., not Bush, and a right to disobey an immoral order.

-TheE-

[Fallen]

And despite their oath - there is a compulsion within it to serve and protect a larger entity, the U.S., not Bush, and a right to disobey an immoral order.

-TheE- >>

Part of that oath is abandoning one's personal views. It is something you give up when you become a soldier. A sacrifice. You choose not to recognize it as that, but rather as a character flaw of the person.

The Armed Forces is not about individual's opinions. You can't pick and choose which orders you are going to follow based on your personal beliefs. There is no way an army can function if it was run like that.

[TheEschaton]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but supposedly the modern military is NOT about giving up one's morality, which can then be dictated by a senior officer.

Opinions, personal views notwithstanding, the armed forces do not, should not, and cannot tell a person to give up their morality for the purposes of serving it. That's what the mafia does when they claim to be Catholic but still kill and maim people.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

You guys can cry me a fucking river all fucking day over that comment. He took it to a personal level with the "real life" comment.. I just finished that level.

I wasn't "insulting someone who has pledged to be prepared die for his country." .. I was insulting the joke known as the army reserve. In fact for the most part the only soldiers I have respect for are Rangers and Airborne. There rest are a bunch of fucking meatsticks.

Bottom line is if you want to take it to the kitchen and get personal with me.. prepared to get fucking fried. I think most of you know I'm an asshole of the no holds barred variety when someone wants to enter the personal insult arena. Your feelings hurt??.. boo fucking hoo.

I'll just sign this one..

~ Semper Fidelis.

[Fallen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but supposedly the modern military is NOT about giving up one's morality, which can then be dictated by a senior officer.

Opinions, personal views notwithstanding, the armed forces do not, should not, and cannot tell a person to give up their morality for the purposes of serving it. That's what the mafia does when they claim to be Catholic but still kill and maim people.

-TheE-

What do you think would happen to a soldier who refused to do his duties while in Iraq based on the grounds that his orders were immoral?

[Krendeli]

Like him or not, the majority of the United States elected President Bush.

Um, not the first time around. Thanks Florida.

[Sean of the Thread]

Um, not the first time around. Thanks Florida.

Lol .. ignorance.

[The Ponzzz]

This thread sucks.

[Drew]

Way to make TheE look good Sean2. At least the TheE is just misguided and idealistic, you just look like a douche.

[Artha]

You people are fucking ridiculous sometimes. I've worked with first graders more mature than some of you.

And they couldn't read.

[Alfster]

Repeating the same personal attacks over and over must make you feel like a real winner..

You do the same thing to people who disagree with you.

:pig:

*edited because shit up there ^ got way off topic. Fuckin' learn2insult better

[Lomoriond]

You people are fucking ridiculous sometimes. I've worked with first graders more mature than some of you.

And they couldn't read.

What kind of retarded fucking first graders can't read?

~L - Feeling left out of the "lets come up with out of line comments that have nothing to do with call wind pilums" festivities

PS. This post was a joke

[Artha]

What kind of retarded fucking first graders can't read?
I mean, they can read some. They're just not fluent, or as fluent as they should be in first grade.

[LordKabaril]

I find it hilarious that everyone gets defensive when someone doesn't have "proper respect" for a soldier. Noone holds a gun to these people's heads and forces them to join the military. It's not communism. These people make a choice, they are doing what they want to.

"Part of that oath is abandoning one's personal views. It is something you give up when you become a soldier. A sacrifice. You choose not to recognize it as that, but rather as a character flaw of the person." - Fallen

Two Words: Fuck that. Anyone who asks me to give up who I am, gets a great big ,,|,, to their face. It is a character flaw, it's called being weak and taking what is fed to you. I feel no pity for our soldiers, as they choose this life. They could just as easily go back to whatever it is they did before. Before they decided it would be fun to blow stuff up and kill people. Before they decided they wanted the pay check and the free money for school and this promise to "Do the right thing". Soldiers are the worst form of sheep, brainwashed completely. Searching for "The American Dream" and all that other bullshir. Right next to the other 98.2% of America who joined the herd, for a "safer and better America". If you join the military looking for "appreciation" then you're a douchebag. Plain and simple. If you look for appreciation for a "sacrifice" (again, - The Fallen) then it defeats the entire purpose of the word sacrifice. JUst my two cents, begin the return flame!

[Fallen]

I joined so my country would not be forced to rely upon drafting people like you to defend it. Don't worry, those of us who serve will still defend you should it be asked of us. Go freedom of speech.

[LordBacl]

So...when we use this item to "Call Wind" what is the percentage of recieving an out of nowhere debate regarding the U.S. military, Iraq, and George W Bush? Does training in air lore increase the odds of this? Just would like to know.

[Drew]

I joined so my country would not be forced to rely upon drafting people like you to defend it. Don't worry, those of us who serve will still defend you should it be asked of us. Go freedom of speech.




Haha pwn of the week.

[Sean of the Thread]

Way to make TheE look good Sean2. At least the TheE is just misguided and idealistic, you just look like a douche.

Rofl. Coming from you that means a lot.

The only people that have room to comment on my army reserve comment.. are servicemen. That doesn't include your fruity ass.

The one thing he is less ashamed to admit probably besides being an army reservist is that one time he played rub the mushroom during eighth grade wrestling tryouts.

That being said .. although me and TheE don't agree on all political issues I still have quite a bit of respect for him. People are entitled to their opinions.. including my opinion of meatstick army reservists including the variety that schill for Tsin's garbage pilum.

[Sean of the Thread]

I joined so my country would not be forced to rely upon drafting people like you to defend it. Don't worry, those of us who serve will still defend you should it be asked of us. Go freedom of speech.

Right on man.

[LordKabaril]

Never asked for a military. Certainly never asked you to join. Even so, you made a choice. You can't expect praise for a choice you made. That's like asking someone to say "Hey, thanks for running my sewage plant so my shit doesn't back up in my house". Is this guy any less important? He is protecting you from all sorts of disease and famine, but they never get thanked. You think being in the military deserves recognition because our country has made it "the right thing to do", a "respectable position". I don't buy in to things because someone says something. I form my own opinion. Which you sir, so arrogantly protect. I would thank you, but I don't really see a point as you obviously think yourself more important than anyone else for the choices you have made. I choose not advocate praising people for getting paid. Damn, when did I become such a horrible person?

[Celephais]

I don't think he did ask for praise...

[LordKabaril]

Praise, recognition, appreciation... call it what you will, I've never met someone in the military who didn't think they deserved a little something special. Fuck that shit. They're no better than you or me.

[Skeeter]

:popcorn2:

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't think he did ask for praise...

This deserves a quote.

[Fallen]

Nah, I dont want anything special. I just dont like it when people insult soldiers for being a soldier.

And yes, I have respect for anyone who does their job well. Be they a garbage man or a doctor or anyone else. I hold soldiers as people to be thankful for because in their job, they put their life on the line. That is me, personally, though. It isn't a requirement, or even an expectation of mine. You just sound ungreatful when you talk shit about someone who made that kind of commitment. Dont praise them, that's fine. But dont belittle them either.

[Sean of the Thread]

Praise, recognition, appreciation... call it what you will, I've never met someone in the military who didn't think they deserved a little something special. Fuck that shit. They're no better than you or me.

I've met plenty who've never asked for anything you listed. Myself being one of them.

And for the record I/we/they ARE better than you... because YOU obviously are fairly retarded.

[Sean of the Thread]

Nah, I dont want anything special. I just dont like it when people insult soldiers for being a soldier.

And yes, I have respect for anyone who does their job well. Be they a garbage man or a doctor or anyone else.

I didn't insult Stealth for being a soldier..

I also tip my garbage man :)

[Skeeter]

I didn't insult Stealth for being a soldier..

I also tip my garbage man :)

but where do you put the tip? I've been trying to figure this out for years.

[Sean of the Thread]

but where do you put the tip? I've been trying to figure this out for years.

In their hand! Get out there the day after Christmas when they swing by.

[Skeeter]

I've never actually seen my garbage man, but I do know they zip by on a truck with the arms on the side and never actually have to get out of the cab at any point.

[Skeeter]

and uh call wind pilums suck. there I contributed

[Fallen]

You should get back to your prestigious army reserve job of leading our nation's military in being a joke and keep your retarded schill comments out of the merchant forum. Your time is better off spent practicing being a joke if you guys want to keep the lead. >>

I dont find that particularly insulting towards soldiers. That soldier, maybe, heh. And the Reserves. But not all soldiers. I was more addressing The E and this other guy.

[Celephais]

Hawkkill better tip his garbage man real well if he expects them to pick this peice of shit out of his trash.

[Sean of the Thread]

I've never actually seen my garbage man, but I do know they zip by on a truck with the arms on the side and never actually have to get out of the cab at any point.

We've got two trucks that come by. One with the automatic arm for the bin... and one that follows to pick up my yard trash/ brush/ palm froms / clippings/ other pile of garbage including the five mounds of Christmas trash.

The second truck gets the tip. And it's been the same guys except two new guys the past 8 years or so.

[Sean of the Thread]

You should get back to your prestigious army reserve job of leading our nation's military in being a joke and keep your retarded schill comments out of the merchant forum. Your time is better off spent practicing being a joke if you guys want to keep the lead. >>

I dont find that particularly insulting towards soldiers. That soldier, maybe, heh. And the Reserves. But not all soldiers. I was more addressing The E and this other guy.

It was mostly intra service smack talk directed at the army reserves who only have room to talk shit against the second cousin of a USCG reservist. Yeah that's embarrassing.

[Slark]

It was mostly intra service smack talk directed at the army reserves who only have room to talk shit against the second cousin of a USCG reservist. Yeah that's embarrassing.

Like uh I dunno Sean2 I just watched The Guardian with Ashton "The Kootch" Kutcher and those CG guys are tough I mean did you see how good they were at swimming and we all know that's like real life.

[Sean of the Thread]

Like uh I dunno Sean2 I just watched The Guardian with Ashton "The Kootch" Kutcher and those CG guys are tough I mean did you see how good they were at swimming and we all know that's like real life.

Actually coast guard rescue swimmers are far and above any normal army reservist.. I'm sure that doesn't need explaining.

[LordKabaril]

Sean2, you're a douchebag. For one, learn to read. I didn't say garbage man, I said sewage treatment plant. Big difference, doubt you've ever even met one. And as for being better than me, enjoy your disillusioned life, you're stupid. I have respect for those that do their job. Be it military or sewage treatment plant. Just don't expect some higher level of service for doing such a thing. That's just plain stupid. Accept it, sure, but do not expect it. While you may have met plenty of military members who don't expect anything, or atleast in your OPINION don't expect anything, I've met plenty. All I'm saying is, you do what you think is right and live your life the way you want to, and fuck letting anyone else tell you how to live it. If you disagree with that, then you're a sheep, plain and simple.

[Slark]

Yeah, I was mostly kidding, I swam for my college for 4 years and we were in the same conference as the coast guard, so I knew a bunch of their team, a few of whom were going to attempt to be rescue swimmers. It's no joke.

[Sean of the Thread]

Sean2, you're a douchebag. For one, learn to read. I didn't say garbage man, I said sewage treatment plant. Big difference, doubt you've ever even met one. And as for being better than me, enjoy your disillusioned life, you're stupid. I have respect for those that do their job. Be it military or sewage treatment plant. Just don't expect some higher level of service for doing such a thing. That's just plain stupid. Accept it, sure, but do not expect it. While you may have met plenty of military members who don't expect anything, or atleast in your OPINION don't expect anything, I've met plenty. All I'm saying is, you do what you think is right and live your life the way you want to, and fuck letting anyone else tell you how to live it. If you disagree with that, then you're a sheep, plain and simple.

Have a beer dude and chill out. I won't shred your post as I'm afraid you may hurt yourself after reading my response.

Go hug mommy pal.. I think you need it.

[LordKabaril]

Nice response. I'll try not to cry. Oh, and beer is bad, another machine of the government. All you fat lazy beer drinking fucks. Go for a jog or something.

[Sean of the Thread]

Oh, and beer is bad, another machine of the government. All you fat lazy beer drinking fucks.

:rofl: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b236/Japgross/tfh1.jpg

[Lomoriond]

I say we blame this entire thread on Atlantis

Those damn cats in Atlantis the ones harboring Osama, stealing all our oils and, of course, making the weapons of mass pwnage.. er.. destruction.


Seriously though

FUCK ATLANTIS

The Postman and The Kootch are pretend USCG now, they can swim down with Chuck Norris and just donkey kick the living fuck out of all of them.


L ~
PS. This post is a critique on the relevance of this thread

[Celephais]

Nice response. I'll try not to cry. Oh, and beer is bad, another machine of the government. All you fat lazy beer drinking fucks. Go for a jog or something.

Kabaril, you gotta calm down. Have you read any of his posts? do you really think he cares if you call him a douche? Clearly you're internalizing this discussion waaay too much.

A beer would help, or a jog, something, cause clearly you're getting worked up over something on the internet...

[Celephais]

...donkey kick...

How have I never heard that before... wow... that's so much better than a donkey punch. Next chance I get I'm dropping the donkey elbow.

[Sean of the Thread]

hehehehe FFS this place is entertaining at the very least.

[Lomoriond]

You can add donkey to pretty much any verb and make it at least three point four times cooler

[LordKabaril]

Worked up is the last thing I am. I assure you. Just bored on a very slow day at work. Whether he cares if I call him a douche or not, he's still a douche. I'm just having a nice debate about people. And people suck.

[Sean of the Thread]

You call it a debate. Most of us call it making a fool of yourself.

Go back to work and be productive. You're clearly not so here.

[LordKabaril]

Oh, and Celephais, nice avatar. I miss Dragon Warrior on nintendo. That was a classic.

[Alfster]

Nice response. I'll try not to cry. Oh, and beer is bad, another machine of the government. All you fat lazy beer drinking fucks. Go for a jog or something.

I may be lazy, I may be an alcoholic, but fuck off if you think that makes me fat.

:pig: :pig: :pig: :pig:

[LordKabaril]

That was a joke. Drink and be lazy if you want to. Fat too for all I care. Alcohol sucks though, green for life.

[RichardCranium]

FIGHT THE POWAH!

[The Ponzzz]

Bump

[Alfster]

That was a joke. Drink and be lazy if you want to. Fat too for all I care. Alcohol sucks though, green for life.

Did daddy get drunk and beat you?

[LordKabaril]

While my parents do drink a good amount, they never beat me. Thanks for asking though.

[Alfster]

40 oz. to freedom

[Warriorbird]

Trainwreck!

[Sean of the Thread]

I previously gave this thread a 1 star... I'd like to ask a mod to change it to 5 star please.

[Stealth]

Sean 2: I don't have a hard time with the smack talking about Soldiers versus Marines. It's a normal thing. I used to rag the ANGLICO guys who were attached to my infantry brigade. I do have a problem with the reserve thing. Having seen both sides of it, in all the services I have seen dirtbags in the active side and exemplary units in the reserves and vice versa.

As far as being a schill for Tsin, hardly. I think you can ask pretty much anyone who has any experience with me that I tell the truth. I simply offered my opinion on whether the pilum worked with a non-wizard against like level creatures. YOU were the one who made it personal and then got your panties all tied up when I corrected you.


As far as the rest of the shit posts about the people serving in the Military... People like you have always been around, they probably always will be. People like me will stand up for you and defend you, we always will. We don't do it for recognition or favors or petty things like that. I have always been that way, I stand up for what I believe, I stand up to bullies when they pick on someone, I help people who need help. Hell it actually embarrasses the shit out of me when someone recognizes me and thanks me for serving.

One day hopefully you will grow up and realize as some have said that the service members are not the ones to be angry with, if you dislike the way things are going...vote. What is sad is that even with your complaining, that is all you probably will do is complain a little on a BBS. What have you actually DONE aside from that?



Stealth

[Sean of the Thread]

As far as being a schill for Tsin, hardly. I think you can ask pretty much anyone who has any experience with me that I tell the truth. I simply offered my opinion on whether the pilum worked with a non-wizard against like level creatures.



Stealth

I stand corrected on the schill comment with your statement above. My apologies.

[Drew]

Rofl. Coming from you that means a lot.

The only people that have room to comment on my army reserve comment.. are servicemen. That doesn't include your fruity ass.



Haha I'm not gay Drew you dumbass. That's Drew2.



I'm the non-gay version of Drew2 just like Sean is the non-fat version of you.

[Sean of the Thread]

Haha I'm not gay Drew you dumbass. That's Drew2.



I'm the non-gay version of Drew2 just like Sean is the non-fat version of you.

At anyrate Drew2 could whoop your ass E Entertainment style. (either that or he could make you feel really uncomfortable at a party)

I won't even touch your Sean vs Sean2 comment.

[Asha]

Some of the best moderation I've ever seen.

[Alfster]

Do we even have moderators anymore?

[bubbauno]

Sold

[Sean of the Thread]

Congrats to the sucker.

[Celephais]

Some of the best moderation I've ever seen.


Do we even have moderators anymore?

This folder is lawlessness. I tried to get someone else put on modding it and it didn't work so... we can use any thread we would like to discuss anything we would like :)

[Artha]

Anarchy in the PC!

http://radmusic.tblog.jp/images/sex-pistols.jpg

[Methais]

And yes Stealth lost some respect with his stupid ass post in this thread.

I don't really see why you'd say that, as everything in his post was true. I've seen him go ape shit using a combination of that pilum, a self mana haste 2 item (back when you could still get 0 RT) and a white silk bag (exactly like the auto-hiding lint bag I used to have) and literally clear out a like leveled swarm in seconds during a rift hunt several years ago.

The pilum seemed to work just fine for knocking things over for him. I'd think any class that relies on messing with a critter's stance would jump all over this item, unless the Call Wind mechanics have been ridiculously nerfed. I was actually thinking 20m was kind of low for this item. But then again I don't know how badly Call Wind may have been nerfed either...

[Methais]

This thread.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/8468a5a1.gif

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't really see why you'd say that, ..

Him being a schill on the item for sale in this thread would have resulted in myself having less respect for him. He wasn't clear in his post and has since made it clear that it wasn't his intent to support this piece of shit item being sold for 25million and I since apologized.

Anyways if anyone sees who purchased this in game give them an ACT kicks you swiftly in the genitals.


That is if it was sold at all.

[Methais]

He wasn't clear in his post and has since made it clear that it wasn't his intent to support this piece of shit item being sold for 25million and I since apologized.

I don't see what he wasn't clear about in his post. He commented on how the item was still effective for his character even after the call wind nerf, and said it was a good item for a square or semi, which I don't really see why it wouldn't be.

You're going to have to spell this one out for me. I fail to see how you originally translated that into him being a schill.

Yes, for the first time ever, I fail.

On an unrelated note:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/chuck.jpg

[Sean of the Thread]

Methais man if you haven't been able to keep us this far...I dunno what to tell you.


I've explained it several times.

[Stealth]

I am pretty sure my "use" or abuse of it was why the spell was tweaked. I am sure embeds had some to do with it too, but I freely admit I used that thing to the utmost. It was still effective after the tweak, but not AS ridiculous. I didn't have an unlimited haste item though, it was a 7x per day self charging necklace. One that has been either duplicated or "copied" via alterations since then. It was the original vial of quicksilver. Originally belonged to Sagan.

The biggest differences I noted after the tweaks were that I no longer knocked things down for a guaranteed 20 seconds and I didn't always knock them into full offensive. I still think I knocked things down probably 80% of the time and gave them 5-20 RT with partial or full stance forcing.

Main reasons I sold it were the extra steps in the script versus using my ewave torc...(get my pilum, raise my pilum, put pilum in my blah etc vs rub my torc), and moving to OTF I was a bit more worried about losing it. Reife was the only one of my PCs who had the mana to use it well after the switch to Harness Power mana, so it didn't make sense to keep it. I am getting to the point now where I wish I had not sold it, my polearmer is the right age to use it in the Eye, but I don't play enough to make it worthwhile.


Stealth

[Methais]

The biggest differences I noted after the tweaks were that I no longer knocked things down for a guaranteed 20 seconds

This is probably due to the fact that Call Wind's RT capped at 12 seconds.

[Sean of the Thread]

Main reasons I sold it were the extra steps in the script versus using my ewave torc...(get my pilum, raise my pilum, put pilum in my blah etc vs rub my torc),

Stealth

That about sums up the worth of this 25 million item vs embedded call wind amulets.