Woe is me!

[LordKenakai]

I have a level 30 Paladin, I converted him way back when, then gave up on him. He is a member of Voln and I wish to hunt undead but am failing miserably. I need a good skill plan etc etc etc.

My current skill plan is:
Kenakai (at level 30), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 146 46
Shield Use.........................| 164 64
Combat Maneuvers...................| 122 31
Edged Weapons......................| 164 64
Physical Fitness...................| 122 31
Dodging............................| 120 30
Magic Item Use.....................| 74 16
Harness Power......................| 130 35
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 122 31
Climbing...........................| 25 5
Swimming...........................| 25 5

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 30

[FinisWolf]

Other then my own DS woes this works really well for me.

Finiswolf (at level 61), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 200 100
Shield Use.........................| 226 126
Combat Maneuvers...................| 202 102
Edged Weapons......................| 226 126
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 140 40
Physical Fitness...................| 163 63
Harness Power......................| 163 63
Spirit Mana Control................| 105 25
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 50 10
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 105 25
Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 20
Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 40

Finis

[Serops]

First

1. Drop dodge to 15-20 ranks. You don't need to be fully singled in dodge especially if you 2x shield.

2. Drop the MIU until later trains unless you have some uber toy that you need the skill for.

3. Drop harness power to 30 ranks. Ranks over your level only grant 1 mana. Ranks over your level +1 cost twice as much.

4. I'm not sure why your so heavily invested in SL: Blessing. Lores for paladins have diminishing returns. I would cut that back one or two thresholds and either add it to SL: Religion (for improved 1615 and 1630) or use the TPs for armor/moc.

Then

5. Get armor to 60 ranks immediately so you can wear aug. chain. 90 ranks is your next goal (metal breastplate).

6. 30 ranks of MOC will help...A LOT. Get it ASAP

7. Start bringing CM up as points allow.

[Bobmuhthol]

Not everything has a diminishing return, lol!

I loved blessing lore.

[LordKenakai]

What route should I go with CMAN's? I am currently:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Feint feint 3
Surge of Strength surge 2

[Bobmuhthol]

Get bull rush or whatever it was called. It's awesome for knockdowns.

[Serops]

"Not everything has a diminishing return, lol!"

What aspect of blessing lore doesn't have a diminishing return (aside from 1 extra swing for 1608 per rank, which isn't a big deal)? That's exactly what the seed system is. 1607 might have a direct correlation at least until you hit the max bonus, but he has no SMC to reduce the cost.

Ya blessing lore is great, but you'll get more out of your TPs buy dropping blessing down 10-15 ranks and picking up 10-15 ranks of religion instead especially at lower trains. I suppose hunting style should be taken into consideration as I tend to use 1615 several times a hunt whereas some people prefer passive bonuses.

Bullrush is an awesome knockdown, so is shield bash. I dropped feint after the latest cman changes.

[serra7965]

This is my sword and board paladin:

(at level 34), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 180 80
Shield Use.........................| 170 70
Combat Maneuvers...................| 130 35
Edged Weapons......................| 170 70
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 130 35
Physical Fitness...................| 153 53
Harness Power......................| 130 35
Spirit Mana Control................| 50 10
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 50 10
Spiritual Lore - Religion..........| 25 5
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 25 5
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 25 5

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 3

Spell Lists
Paladin............................| 30
PsiNet has recorded your current skills.

cman I dropped surge because to me it sucks now. I now have:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Movement cmovement 2
Shield Bash sbash 2
Feint feint 2
Side by Side sidebyside 2

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 3

I hunt with a partner a lot so I did combat movement and side by side, unfortunately it seems you don't get your AS bonus when you multi-op while is side by side...I have yet to get an answer on whether this is a bug or meant to be. I haven't checked as of late.

I don't use dodge because I use a tower/wall shield and do not want to waste my training points in something that gets penalties because I use an x-large shield and I get a free 20 ranks with mass blurs. Also I wear Hauberk (which when I converted at same train as you (30) I immediately fully trained in it) which gives yet another penalty to dodging. Here is some good info on Combat Examples that explains it mathematically and much better than I could. http://www.play.net/gs4/info/combat_examples.asp