Demon stones and scroll infusion

[Morstanya]

If anyone figures out where to get (or how to make) summoning stones for demons I'd like to talk to you. Also, scroll infusion is vexing me now. Information on that would be nice too.

Morstanya, Icewitch (frustrated)

[Skirmisher]

What I remember of the rune stones is that you need the special ink and brush to paint a blank runestone with the proper rune to ready it for either scroll infusion or summoning.

Try perhaps the alchemy shop for the components?

[Morstanya]

I did, but it's locked up right now. Searched the guilds in Icemule and the Landing too...

Mors

[Skirmisher]

Ah yes, and you know about the summoning rooms in the sorc guilds, yes? I unerstand they greatly improve the chances to summon a demon. Not sure if they help at all with infusion.

[Morstanya]

Ya, testing I used them, but now I have 50 ranks of demonology, so I shouldn't need the summoning rooms.

I doubt those summoning rooms help with infusion, but there is another room in the guild I was wondering about maybe... the library.

Mors

[Skirmisher]

So much to learn!....You seem to know alot more about this than I do.

Please keep us posted with anything new you learn?

Thanks and good luck!

[Morstanya]

I found a brush, ink, and some kind of stone at the alchemist in Icemule. How to use it ? I'll just find out the hard way but I doubt soon, as I have to go for the weekend.

It seems sorcerers have become painters...

Mors

[Skirmisher]

I think its as follows.

1- dip brushi in ink

2- its either draw xxxxx on my runestone
or paint xxxxx on my runstone

[Morstanya]

Happen to know a list of xxxxxx 's ?

Mors

[Morstanya]

ahh, nevermind that request, I figured it out. However, I know no runes even at 71 trainings, and I'm wondering just who will to teach others.

I'm also wondering if these stones are even for sorcery at this point. It's so nice being an ancient sorcerer that doesn't have a clue what they are doing. Somehow I've gone from competent to inept in one day.

Mors

[Zentoph]

A friend of mine wrote a document about scroll infusion and runestones.. I'll post it when I get home.

[Moist Happenings]

I was told that any dark area(Like in the well in wehnimer's) will boost your chances of summoning a demon. I've found this to be true in testing with 10, 25, 50, and 100 ranks in demonology.

[Overlord]

Bah! No demons but Dimmu at the well! Been my resting place for seven years!

On A relevant note, how has elemental guardian been implemented?

[Edited on 11-21-2003 by Overlord]

[Moist Happenings]

Elemental Guardian? never heard of it. what is it? New wizard spell?

[Overlord]

Indeed, 950 similar in some respects to 750. To the best of my knowlege also requiring the assistance of some type of stones with magical properties.. though it was my understanding neither of these spells has been implemented yet.

[Moist Happenings]

Well I know that 750 hasn't been implemented yet. Hadn't heard anything at all about 950.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what breaking a sanct entails? I'm told it's done with demons.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Neff
Well I know that 750 hasn't been implemented yet. Hadn't heard anything at all about 950.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know what breaking a sanct entails? I'm told it's done with demons.

Demon/sorc strength vs. sanct/cleric strength. Demons should be illegal in towns now, though, so be careful with that one.

If you're looking for verbiage, I think it's:

tell my sorcie-demmie to breakie the sanctie so I can killify that teef <emoticon of your choice>

[Moist Happenings]

Actually I was thinking more like "tell my sorcie-demmie to breakie the sanctie so I can fuckie Nakiro up for cast/sanc/cast/sanc"

[Dighn Darkbeam]

Here is the Scroll infusion info, freshly plagerized from the Sorc boards. (Credited to Malasai)

A basic, very rough, very incomplete guide follows. And probably inaccurate in a few cases.

Runes:

beiron'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level five for five charges. Detection descriptor: (few). Charges: 4.
erikar'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level ten for ten charges. Detection descriptor: (number). Charges: 5.
ikar'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level fifteen for fifteen charges. Detection descriptor: (many). Charges: 2.
quiss'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level twenty for twenty charges. Detection descriptor: (many). Charges: 3.
dikar'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level 25 (possibly higher) for 25 charges. Detection descriptor: (very many). Charges: 3.
wy'zio : Will let you forget known runes. Rub it to activate, then RUNE FORGET <rune>. (note, currently seems bugged in beta.. will force a forget immediately when rubbed.)
odeir'cos : Detection rune. Wave it at a scroll to see which spells are locked, unlocked, and how many charges it can take. Charges: 3.

A scroll MUST be fresh and unused in order for spells to be unlocked. If it's been invokved even once, the scroll will be locked forever.

Once you've unlocked spells, simply cast 714 at it, and INFUSE MY SCROLL. You cannot choose exactly which spell to infuse. It will simply pick one of the unlocked spells at random and infuse that.

It's been confirmed by Nitid that a scroll can only take so many charges before it reaches capacity.

It's assumed that Magic Item Use and Arcane Symbol ranks play heavily into this spell.

Failures are possible, and will lock scrolls forever. Failures seem to be indicated with a white glow.

There's no way to designate exactly WHICH spell you want unlocked. It's hit or miss. You can only narrow down the options by choosing which runes to use.

Once a spell is unlocked, it appears to remain unlocked forever. For instance, if you unlock 312 on a scroll, and it runs out of charges, you can charge it back up. This seems to be a bit flaky, as sometimes the scroll will randomly lock for no apparant reason.

Smooth stones can be used as makeshift runestones. Use a brush, get a bottle of ink. Then "dip my brush in my bottle." The color of the ink seems to make no difference at this point in time. Then, "draw <rune name> rune on my stone with my brush."

Known runes can be taught (which is currently the only way to get dikar'fyn in beta.) Be in someones group, then "rune teach <player> <rune>" It's assumed at this point that you need to be know that rune for a certain amount of time before you can teach it to someone.

For now, ignore the solar, dune, celestial, etc. runes. Those are used by clerics to determine which type of spirit servant they want to summon. Sorcerers are stuck with the hard to remember rune names, because everyone knows that Sorcerers are smarter than clerics.

I'm sure I've forgotten to add a few things, but this should provide a good stepping-stone.

dip brush in ink

draw quiss'fyn rune on my runestone with my brush

(brush still has enough ink to do a 2nd stone)

dip brush in water (clean off)

rinse, repeat.

[Morstanya]

I just got back from a weekend disaster but I'll begin testing infusion and demon summoning again today. There was some nice information here but I still don't understand a few things.

In particular, are the runestones you can get at the alchemist in Icemule for scroll infusion, or demon summoning (or something else) ?

Also, since I know no runes, and have met no one in Gs4 yet that knows even one rune, how can I learn them ?

I'd really like to see that document you mentioned Zentoph.

Are you sure demons will be illegal in town Latrisorm ? What good is a demon to protect you from thieves if you can't use it in town ? Not to mention the obvious 'awe' effect of having a demon follow you around carrying your eyeball or whatever...

Dighn, does this mean I can find scrolls up to (and past) 25th level now ? :

dikar'fyn : Will unlock spells up to level 25 (possibly higher) for 25 charges. Detection descriptor: (very many). Charges: 3.

Morstanya, Icewitch (even grumpier than usual after a screwed up weekend)

[Dighn Darkbeam]

In particular, are the runestones you can get at the alchemist in Icemule for scroll infusion, or demon summoning (or something else) ? >>

You can buy different "pre-made" sorcerous runestones at different Alchemist stores or make your own. My guess is both, though I have yet to travel south to Icemule to investigate personally.

Also, since I know no runes, and have met no one in Gs4 yet that knows even one rune, how can I learn them ? >>

Type rune common. This will give you a list of all the runes you know. The normal sounding ones(Dune, ect) are for clercics. Check my previous post on how to paint the runes onto your stone.

Are you sure demons will be illegal in town Latrisorm ? What good is a demon to protect you from thieves if you can't use it in town ? Not to mention the obvious 'awe' effect of having a demon follow you around carrying your eyeball or whatever... >>

I will field this one for the man. Bringing a demon into town once released will result in a warrant being placed for your arrest. This problem will be resolved once a guild skill is released that allows us to disguise our demons in various ways.

Dighn, does this mean I can find scrolls up to (and past) 25th level now ? : >>

I dont believe currently scrolls gen with spells over 20th circle. In the future I am told they may.

(Dighn gives a ghost of a smile as he decifers the last of the spidery script upon the scroll: ...will summon forth a storm of fire from the heavens to smote thine enemy...)

Kris na Su'ta

[Edited on 11-25-2003 by Dighn Darkbeam]

[Moist Happenings]

Wait..Dighn..You can actually summon demons already? I was under the impression that they were going to implement it with some sort of quest, and that there weren't any runestones available yet.

[Dighn Darkbeam]

Wait..Dighn..You can actually summon demons already? I was under the impression that they were going to implement it with some sort of quest, and that there weren't any runestones available yet. >>

No demons yet. If demons were put in today without the guild skills, bringing one in town is a crime. I dont believe a quest will be required for the spell, but there will be a Roleplay event involving the general release of Demonic summoning into Elanthia.

As for the componants I am unsure. As I said before I have not visited any alchemist shops as I am in Pinefar. Typing rune common will tell you all the runes currently available to you. I would guess you can draw any of those runes onto a stone, so the componants could be available.

Currently the GM's have released no Player shared/Quest learned runes, though there are definate plans to do so in the future.

BTW, im not pulling my info out of my ass. I stay current with the Sorcerer folder on the official boards.

[Morstanya]

Well duh... I thought if it didn't show with RUNE KNOWN, I couldn't do it...

Thanks.

Mors

[Morstanya]

Has anyone else noticed this isn't exactly economical ? The only thing I can think of infusing that would sell for more than I spend doing it is well of life and raise dead scrolls, at the moment.

Morstanya, Icewitch.

[Dighn Darkbeam]

Has anyone else noticed this isn't exactly economical ? The only thing I can think of infusing that would sell for more than I spend doing it is well of life and raise dead scrolls, at the moment. >>

Use smooth stones instead of pre-made runes for maximum cost effectiveness.

I would have to disagree with you on your assessment of Scroll infusion, Morstanya. I currently await a downtweak of this ability after hearing many speaking of the great benefits they have derived from this spell. I will not go into specifics as I do not wish to give the critics and GM's ammunition.