New Diplomacy Game!

[TheEschaton]

Winter 1906 builds/disbands:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/alokpinto/GSPlayersCorner-F1906B-1.jpg

Winter 1906 Resolved Map:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/alokpinto/GSPlayersCorner-S1907M.jpg

New Schedule:
Week of Sunday, June 17th (midday = 1 pm EST, evening = 11:59 pm EST)
(6/17) Sunday evening: Spring 1907 moves due
(6/18) Monday evening: Retreats due
(6/19) Tuesday evening: Fall 1907 moves due
(6/20) Wednesday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/disbands due
(6/21) Thursday evening: Spring 1908 moves due
(6/22) Friday evening: Retreats due
(6/23) Saturday: OFF

Week of Sunday, June 10th (midday = 1 pm EST, evening = 11:59 pm EST)
(6/24) Sunday evening: Fall 1908 moves due
(6/25) Monday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/Disbands due
(6/26) Tuesday evening: Spring 1909 moves due
(6/27) Wednesday evening: Retreats due
(6/28) Thursday evening: Fall 1909 moves due
(6/29) Friday midday: Retreats due
evening: Builds/Disbands due
(6/30) Saturday: OFF

Spring 1907 moves due by tonight at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

I've gotten interest from Artha about starting a new game.

I'd be GMing. I'd go with pretty standard rules: start Spring 1901, first build after Fall 1901. No pass-through control (you actually have to be holding a territory in the fall to gain control of a supply center).

My orders would be in the following format:

A Bud H or A Bud Hold
A Bud-Vie
A Bud S A Tri
A Bud S A Tri-Ser

Note: for foreign support, I would not require the country name - hopefully you realize you're supporting a foreign country.

The full rules are at: http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf.

If anyone wants in, let me know. Once we get 8 players, we'll start. I'll build a schedule after that.

Edited to add: If they can handle it, I don't mind players from the other game jumping in. They'll be the ones who have to keep their negotiations straight.

Current players:
Artha: Russia
Nien: Austria-Hungary
Atlanteax: England
Stunseed: Turkey
Sean2: France
Backlash: Italy
Izalude: Germany

[Xandalf]

Count me in.

[crazymage]

Wish you waited till the other one was done, just because you got knocked out early doesnt mean everyone did...

[TheEschaton]

The other one might take months to finish.

[Hulkein]

Ukraine's weak, it's a sitting duck!

[Back]

I’d play but I’m not even going to try splitting my time on top of trying to work.

[Nieninque]

I'll play

[Xandalf]

Wish you waited till the other one was done, just because you got knocked out early doesnt mean everyone did...

I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

[TheEschaton]

Like I said before - that's well and fine if you're playing over the course of a weekend, live. When it take a week to do a whole year - and we've done 6 years (12 turns) in a month an a half....that's too long.

-TheE-

[Back]

Well I'm sure he can get enough players so who really cares?

What about the Fall 06 results of our game???


I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

[Nieninque]

I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

They still can

I'm sure we can get two games running at the same time.

[crazymage]

I agree, that's why the winner of the game usually GMs the next game.

Well Sean2 and I will be winning, but probably wouldnt want to GM anyway.

:)

[Sean of the Thread]

Well I'm in favor of speeding up the turns of our current and next game if at all possible.

We're playing our current game at the speed I used to play via BBS back in the day.

[TheEschaton]

So...I know some of our Diplomacy n00bs want to jump in.

(ha, like I'm an expert).

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

Speedy turns!

[TheEschaton]

I can do speedy turns, if y'all can do speedy turns. You should know I'm pretty much connected at the hip to my computer. :P

-TheE-

[Artha]

I'm definitely down for < 1 week between turns. Maybe two or three days. Maybe one.

[TheEschaton]

I think my schedule willl go like this:

Day 1: Spring moves due
Day 2: Spring retreats due
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Fall moves due
Day 5: Fall Retreats due
Day 6: Fall builds/disbands due
Day 7: Off

I think keeping on a 7 day schedule is good, so the major landmarks (Spring/Fall moves) are on the same day. If we want, we can move to a more compact schedule like this:

Day 1: Move due
Day 2 midday: Retreats due
Day 2 evening: Disbands/Builds due by late evening.
Day 3: Move due
Day 4 midday: Retreats due
Day 4 evening: Disbands/Builds due by late evening.
Day 5: Move due
Day 6 midday: Retreats due
Day 6 midday: Builds/Disbands due
Day 7: off

If it's a Spring move due, obviously, disbands/builds are not necessary, but I'd like to keep the Retreats at midday so people can have a day and a half for the next move. The reason I don't like this schedule is because Diplomacy goes pretty much on a two move system (Spring/Fall) and to have 3 moves a week leaves the move days alternating between the two (IE, one week, Day 1 will be Spring, the next it'll be Fall of the next year). Plus, if Fall moves are due on Days 1 and 5, the retreat/build/disband process will be a little hairy to all get in. Not all of us are attached to our computers like I am.

If anyone has any alternate suggestions for a schedule, let me know.

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

I can do speedy turns, if y'all can do speedy turns. You should know I'm pretty much connected at the hip to my computer. :P

-TheE-

It's a shame that you couldnt have been attached to your computer when you FORGOT TO SEND IN YOUR ORDERS AND SCREWED ME OVER in the last game.

[TheEschaton]

<coughs>

Won't happen again. Class is ending for the year, no need to self-medicate myself with alcohol.

-TheE-

[Latrinsorm]

I'm almost tempted to join just to provoke further hilarious responses like that one from Nien (whom I adore!).

[Sean of the Thread]

Everybody had a fuck up like that in the current game except backlash I think. NO EXCUSES!

That being said as long as YOU (TheE.. who I've yet to come up with a name for yet) can handle speedy turns fuck the people that can't. It's those that can that matter.

If we do a speedy schedule I'm down. If I miss a speedy move so be it.. but thats the game I'm looking for.

[Artha]

If I miss a speedy move so be it..

It's more interesting this way too.

I like way #1 best.

[Back]

It still one year a week though.

[TheEschaton]

Yes, it is still one year a week.

[Back]

You could go...

Monday night: Spring moves due.
Tuesday night: Retreats/Disbands, Fall moves due.
Wednesday night: Retreats/Disbands, Builds due.
Thursday night: Spring moves due.
Friday night: Retreats/Disbands, Fall moves due.
Saturday night: Retreats/Disbands, Builds due.
Sunday: Off.

You'd have to post results by an early AM time (10am?) and accept moves by a late PM time (11pm? Midnight?).

[TheEschaton]

4 moves in a week would be awesome if we could pull it off.

Having retreats/disbands AND moves due on the same day might be crazy - someone may want to make a move based on retreats/disbands. Maybe if we could have a 12 PMish deadline on retreats/disbands? It would require dedication on the part of players. Otherwise players would have to anticipate their moves with expected retreats/disbands.

-TheE-

[Artha]

Fuck...I'm lucky to be awake by noon some days.

College - fuck yeah.

[Nieninque]

4 moves in a week would be awesome if we could pull it off.

Having retreats/disbands AND moves due on the same day might be crazy - someone may want to make a move based on retreats/disbands. Maybe if we could have a 12 PMish deadline on retreats/disbands? It would require dedication on the part of players. Otherwise players would have to anticipate their moves with expected retreats/disbands.

-TheE-

There is no way in the world that you would be able to keep updats up to date.

[TheEschaton]

In retrospect, I think that's probably true. I think we might have to stick with a 2 move week, with set deadlines on everything.

-TheE-

[Back]

Its really hard to get around the year/week thing. Unless you do Spring, Fall, Spring one week, Fall, Spring, Fall the next.

[TheEschaton]

On a two week cycle?

[Back]

Other than that you may need to go into 3-4 hour AIM sessions.

[Atlanteax]

I'll play if there's still room.

[Xandalf]

Count me out, actually.

I'm going on a 7 week vacation, leaving June 3. We won't be finished by then.

[TheEschaton]

With three players, we're still looking for 5 more.

[Xandalf]

With three players, we're still looking for 5 more.

Eight countries?

Am I missing something here?

[Celephais]

Eight countries?

Am I missing something here?

I think he might be counting the GM as a player...

[TheEschaton]

Err, 4 more people, yes, i'm insane.

[Back]

I knew Atlanta would play. Sorry I'm passing on this one.

Surprised more people haven't jumped in by now.

[Stunseed]

I'll toss my bid in, as well. Seems like a fun game.

[TheEschaton]

Bump, three more players needed.

I've decided to go with the two week cycle, 3 moves due each week. 6 turns (ie, 3 years) every two weeks.

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

you better be sharp with the updates then

[TheEschaton]

No worries.

[Keller]

I would play but I'll be incommunicado all next week starting tomorrow.

Yay for post-finals vacations.

[Nieninque]

you hardly played last time.

[Sean of the Thread]

Burnt.

[Sean of the Thread]

Stunseed
Badtie
Sean2
Artha
Nien

I count 5 so far.

[Nieninque]

ROFL@Badtie

[TheEschaton]

I didn't realize you were in, Sean.

2 more players.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Bump - still looking for two more players.

[Back]

Ok, I’m busy as hell right now but fuck it. Count me in.

One more player people!

Gan, Miss X, Stray, Bob, Kranar, CT, Dan, anyone step up!

If two more want in, I’ll step out.

[Daniel]

NM. I thought you said I had joined. I was like WTF. I got wayyy too much shit going on right now.

[TheEschaton]

Bump. hopefully all the other players are still in.

and hopefully, now that the other game is also almost over, we can find these last two players.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Err, one more, I missed Backlash joining in

[Hips]

My Austro-Hungarian ancestors demand that whoever gets Austria this time better win. :D

[Izalude]

What the hell... I'm in.

[Sean of the Thread]

Super game on.

Time for contact information.

Blackbelushi@yahoo.com

Aim: Blackbelushi

[Izalude]

kronan210@hotmail.com
Aim: Kryjeck12

[TheEschaton]

Suhweet. I'll throw together a PM to everyone right now.

[Back]

If someone wants my spot you better speak up before the game starts!

[Parkbandit]

If I knew what the fuck you guys were doing, I'd play.

[TheEschaton]

It's a strategy game, like Risk. The rules can be found here:

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

[Parkbandit]

How do you keep track of it all? Is there a virtual board somewhere you can look at or is it up to each individual player to maintain his/her own?

[TheEschaton]

There's a program where you can keep track of it on your own, but what was done in the other game is that Xandalf would post a map in the first page and continually update it. And he would post moves every turn from every person in the thread itself.

-TheE-

[Back]

For example...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=23947

[TheEschaton]

Still waiting for Nein and Stunseed's info (I know your info, Nein, just want to confirm you're still in).

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

Still waiting for Nein and Stunseed's info (I know your info, Nein, just want to confirm you're still in).

-TheE-

...

[TheEschaton]

Alright, then just waiting for Deesnuts.

-TheE-

[Stunseed]

It's on.

[TheEschaton]

Artha: Russia
Atlanteax: England
Backlash: Italy
Izalude: Germany
Nieninque: Austria-Hungary
Sean2: France
Stunseed: Turkey

First moves due Sunday, May 20th, at 10 pm EST. Starting Map posted in first post.

-TheE-

[Back]

Helpful strategy link: http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm

Don’t know about anyone else but the starting map is not loading for me. It may just be clogged internet pipes today either on the map end or mine.

Also, if anyone wants my spot, I’m willing to give it up. Make it known before first moves on May 20th.

[TheEschaton]

Updated: moves will now be due at 11:59 EST because of players who work late.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Bump. Moves for Spring 1901 due in, now, less than 24 hours.

[TheEschaton]

Little bit over 5 hours to get in moves for Spring 1901. I've decided to be strict on time, since we've got such a strict schedule, to make up for a certain laxness in such details like putting your country name in the body of the EMail. But still strict on order format too!

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

As spring dawns on a new century full of hope and promise, sudden tensions rising throughout 1900 have begun to boil over. All across Europe, armies begin the long, slow process of strapping up their boots, and packing their gear, as they seek to secure their homelands against possible threat.

In the East, Russia seeks to secure its southern borders, and Turkey and Austria-Hungary seem to be heading for a clash in the Balkans over who will have an adequate buffer.

In the west, the French look to secure the Iberian peninsula, while the English take to sea.

Stuck in the middle, Germany and Italy seek to prepare themselves for the conflict that seems bound to meet at their borders.

Spring 1901 moves:

England:
F Edi - Nwg
F Lon - Nth
A Lvp - Edi

Russia:
F Stp-Bot
A Mos-Ukr
A War H
F Sev-Rum

Italy:
A Ven - Pie
A Rom - Apu
F Nap - Ion

Austria-Hungary:
F Tri-Alb
A Bud-Ser
A Vie H

Germany:
F Kie-Den
A Ber-Kie
A Mun-Ruh

France:
A Mar-Spa
F Bre-Mao
A Par-Bur

Turkey:
A Con-Bul
A Smy-Con
F Ank H

For the most part, guys (and gal), great formats on the orders. Note the individual corrections I gave you in EMails.

There are no retreats, so the next move is due Tuesday, May 22nd, at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

[Nieninque]

Can you put the date of the next move in the first post with the map so we dont have to trawl through looking for it please.

[TheEschaton]

no problem. Map updated.

[Atlanteax]

I am surprised there is no fleet in the Black Sea.

The aftermath of Fall 1901 is definately going to be interesting, as it'll determine initial momentum.

Spring 1901 had quite a bit of non-threatening moves, but several potentially contestive territories are probably going to be disputed over in Fall 1901.

I am looking forward to seeing how the map will look like after the Fall 1901 moves.

[Xandalf]

I am surprised there is no fleet in the Black Sea.

The aftermath of Fall 1901 is definately going to be interesting, as it'll determine initial momentum.

Spring 1901 had quite a bit of non-threatening moves, but several potentially contestive territories are probably going to be disputed over in Fall 1901.

I am looking forward to seeing how the map will look like after the Fall 1901 moves.


It's generally preferrable to be allied with everyone on the first few moves.

[Back]

Different time period but its funny as hell.

http://www.devilducky.com/media/61540/

[Sean of the Thread]

Different time period but its funny as hell.

http://www.devilducky.com/media/61540/

Hhaha. I've been trying to find that again for years.. thanks for the link.

[Nieninque]

Yeah that's awesome.

The E, if you go into Edit>Preferences>Export, you can change the size of the .jpg you export the maps from. Setting the width to 1000 makes them a nice size rather than that horribly little squint-inducing size.

[Atlanteax]

Anyone know how to force the program to shade in areas?

ie England Wales would be dark blue, instead of it's gray/tan color.

[TheEschaton]

You only gain control of an area after Fall. If you're still holding the area after Fall, it'll turn dark blue.

-TheE-

[Xandalf]

Anyone know how to force the program to shade in areas?

ie England Wales would be dark blue, instead of it's gray/tan color.

Yes, and I did so last game.

This game is using different rules than I used last game. You don't gain control unless you hold it at the end of the Fall turn.

As long as it's consistent and spelled out at the beginning, it's fine either way.

[Skeeter]

I would think all the current rule would accomplish is to increase the amount of time it takes to complete a game.

[Atlanteax]

Excuse me,

Currently (England) Wales is unoccupied.

However, it's presumed to be English territory at the start of the game. But it's not dark blue.

Ukraine would also be considered Russian territory, it should be White to start with? What if the Russian Army does not remain there in Fall 1901? I understand that the territory would not captured (which is moot, since no supply depot), but I think it should still be a white background, as for all sense and purpose, it's Russian territory.

Same goes for (German) Prussia, Silesia, Ruhr... they should be dark grey until a foreign power takes it?

.

Would be nice if the program would allow for highlighting of non-occupied "home region"s.

That is what I was referring to...

[Sean of the Thread]

Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

[Atlanteax]

Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

I have been unsuccessful in doing so...

Care to explain how to do it?

[Sean of the Thread]

I have been unsuccessful in doing so...

Care to explain how to do it?

Never mind. I was thinking depots sorry.

[Back]

I would think all the current rule would accomplish is to increase the amount of time it takes to complete a game.

Its also strategic. No more running roughshod through somewhere and racking up builds. You need to think about where you are in the Fall to hold. Like Sean2 trying to keep his home depots while picking up Spain and Portugal in two turns.

[TheEschaton]

Sorry, got into San Antonio late, no theatrical buildup...

Fall 1901 moves:

England:
A Edi-Nwy
F Nwg C A Edi-Nwy
F Nth-Bel

Turkey:
A Bul - Gre
A Con - Bul
F Ank - Con

France:
A Bur-Mar
F Mao-Por

Italy:
A Pie H
A Apu - Tun
F Ion C A Apu - Tun

Austria:
F alb - gre
A ser S F alb - gre
A vie - bud

Germany:
F den H
A kie - hol
A ruh - mun

Russia:
F bot - swe
F rum H
A ukr S F rum
A war H

No retreats are due, so builds are due at 11:59 pm, Wednesday, May 23rd.

Edit:
Builds due are as follows:
England 2
Russia 2
France 2
Germany 2
Austria 2
Turkey 1
Italy 1

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

[Nieninque]

Yeah it just colors what is initially occupied as default. If you're running JDIP along side at h ome you can hit up edit mode and color it what you want.

OMG I didnt know about edit mode.
I take back the extra work part I was talking about before the game.
/hum

[Sean of the Thread]

Its also strategic. No more running roughshod through somewhere and racking up builds. You need to think about where you are in the Fall to hold. Like Sean2 trying to keep his home depots while picking up Spain and Portugal in two turns.

Not sure where you were going with that.

[Nieninque]

Can I make another request?

Is it possible that underneath the Latest map, you post the map with the moves on as well so we can see in graphical form who moved where and what worked and what didnt?

[Sean of the Thread]

Can I make another request?

Is it possible that underneath the Latest map, you post the map with the moves on as well so we can see in graphical form who moved where and what worked and what didnt?

That's what your brain is for!

[Nieninque]

Im more of a visual person.

[TheEschaton]

I'll do it when photobucket stops being a pain in my ass.

[Nieninque]

imageshack.us

[TheEschaton]

map updated with moves, with the resolved map under. The only moves which failed this turn are (all of) Turkey's moves. A good reminder that if you try and do a supply route sort of thing (moving into a province just vacated by your other unit), if the first unit gets blocked from moving, all your later moves get blocked too!

-TheE-

[Atlanteax]

Assuming Austria-Hungary and Russia are not hostile to each other... Turkey is in trouble...

[TheEschaton]

Builds due in less than 6 hours. Only got them from England, Italy, and A-H.

[Sean of the Thread]

Builds due in less than 6 hours. Only got them from England, Italy, and A-H.

Honestly I'd say that's information you don't need to share with everyone.

[Nieninque]

/agree

[Atlanteax]

/agree (also)

[Xandalf]

YEAH I AGREE TOO YOU'RE THE WORST GM EVER!


heh. I love it.

[Sean of the Thread]

YEAH I AGREE TOO YOU'RE THE WORST GM EVER!


heh. I love it.

errrrr

[Xandalf]

...it was a joke.

[Back]

Why does showing who turned in builds matter?

[TheEschaton]

I don't know why it matters, since most of them aren't really problematic. For example, Sean, you had two builds, and only had two supply centers open. :P Unless you were going to waive your builds, everyone knew where you were going to build, and in the case of land-locked Paris, what you were going to build. Anyways, I won't do it in the future.

The moves for Winter 1901:

Turkey:
B F Smy

France:
B A Par
B F Bre

Germany:
B A Ber
B A Kie

Russia:
B F Sev
B A Mos

England:
B F Lon
B F Lvp

Italy:
B F Nap

Austria-Hungary:
B A Tri
B A Vie

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

How's the pace going for everyone?

Spring 1902 moves due Thursday, 5/23 at 11:59 pm, as reflected on map post.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Oh, by the way, folks, with the dawning of 1902, I will now be strict on order formats. To recap (all in Austria-Hungary, my love):

Moves:
A Bud-Tri
F Tri-Adr

Support:
F Adr S A Tri
F Adr S A Tri-Ven

Holds:
A Tri H
or
A Tri Hold

Convoys:
F Adr C A Alb-Apu
F Ion C A Alb-Apu
A Alb-Apu

Note, in convoys, I would prefer it if you listed the fleets which are convoying first so I have an idea of wtf is going on, but this is not required. You are not required to spell out the particular path you are moving along with your army convoy either, IE A Alb-Adr-Apu, you can simply say A Alb-Apu, and as long as one of your convoys is successful (not cut off, so on, so forth), the move from Alb-Apu will be successful.

Note you can have two fleets trying to convoy the same unit - this can be done if you think one will be attacked. If both happen to be "successful", it doesn't matter which one does the actual convoying.

-TheE-

[Back]

Pace is good. How is San Antone? ;)

[Atlanteax]

The pace is great!

[Artha]

I like the pace.

[Sean of the Thread]

Pace is super.

[Back]

Pace Picante sauce? I like it HOT.

[Sean of the Thread]

NEW YORK CITY??!?!?!?

[Sean of the Thread]

Why does showing who turned in builds matter?


I don't know why it matters, since most of them aren't really problematic.

If you think about it for a minute I'm sure you'll figure out why it could possibly matter.

The same reason it would matter if you announced "such and such" had already turned in their orders.

[Back]

Well... I don’t care either way. Last game people were posting their builds here on the boards. But hey, who gives a flip?

[Sean of the Thread]

Well... I don’t care either way. Last game people were posting their builds here on the boards. But hey, who gives a flip?

People posting their builds is another story. Coming from the GM (official) I'd rather it be after the deadline.

Perhaps a "Some of you still haven't turned in orders/builds" reminder would do well.

[TheEschaton]

Are you negotiating your builds? You had two builds, and only two supply centers to build in. Were you negotiating whether a fleet or an army would be built in Bur? I guess that can make a difference.

So consider it a my bad, and I'll not do it again.

And San Antonio is good....my best friend has settled into Americana, it's weird. They have a house, he has a baby girl, they grill on the back porch, they watch American Idol. It's all very Twilight Zone-esque. I kind of want to be like, "Dude, you're 26, you should be snorting coke off a strippers butt..."

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

Are you negotiating your builds? You had two builds, and only two supply centers to build in. Were you negotiating whether a fleet or an army would be built in Bur? I guess that can make a difference.

So consider it a my bad, and I'll not do it again.

And San Antonio is good....my best friend has settled into Americana, it's weird. They have a house, he has a baby girl, they grill on the back porch, they watch American Idol. It's all very Twilight Zone-esque. I kind of want to be like, "Dude, you're 26, you should be snorting coke off a strippers butt..."

-TheE-

Hey no need to get defensive! I certainly appreciate you being GM and you're doing a very speedy and outstanding job.

I'm glad you'll leave the country names out of the reminders however.

[Back]

Where is the update? YOU SOCK!

[TheEschaton]

As spring springs forth in Europe in 1902, Austria-Hungary sits idly by while the rest of Europe pushes forth.

Germany moves south, possibly to meet a northwardly moving France. Russia concentrates its forces along its southern border, and Turkey moves to protect its borders from encroaching central Europeans. Italy makes a sudden move East, but its intentions are unknown - who is the Italian target?

Turkey:
A Con S A Bul
A Bul H
F Ank-Arm
F Smy-Aeg

Germany:
A Ber-Sil
A Mun-Bur
A Kie-Mun
A Hol-Ruh
F Den H

France:
F Bre-Eng
A Par-Pic
A Mar-Bur
A Spa-Mar
F Por-Mao

England:
F Nwg-Nao
F Lvp-Iri
F Lon-Eng
F Bel S F Lon-Eng

Italy:
A Pie-Mar
F ion-Eas
F Nap-Ion
A Tun H

Russia:
F Sev-Bla
F Rum S A Ser-Bul
F Swe H
A Mos-Sev
A War H
A Ukr H

No retreats are due, and this is a spring turn, so no builds either. That means we have off for awhile: Fall 1902 moves are due Sunday night, May 27th, 11:59 pm.

Oh, and I don't know what happened to Nein's orders, but I don't have 'em. Lucky nothing bad happened to Austria-Hungary.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

[Back]

Wild! Interesting dynamic so far.

[Atlanteax]

Any chance we can do Fall moves by end of Friday night instead of waiting until Sun?

Since there's no Retreats?

[Back]

I don’t think its up for a vote. But I would vote yes. :)

[Nieninque]

Fuck...I fell asleep.

[TheEschaton]

I'd like to keep it on schedule. I feel there should be a consistency in when we do moves. Maybe, if you want our off days to be Thursdays, have moves due on Friday, and retreats/builds on Saturday, then moves again on monday, maybe? I just thought it would be nice to have an off day on the weekend....

...yanno, since I'm 26 and have a life. :P

-TheE-

[Atlanteax]

I'd like to keep it on schedule. I feel there should be a consistency in when we do moves. Maybe, if you want our off days to be Thursdays, have moves due on Friday, and retreats/builds on Saturday, then moves again on monday, maybe? I just thought it would be nice to have an off day on the weekend....

...yanno, since I'm 26 and have a life. :P

-TheE-

What, you can't take 10 minutes out of your day? =)

[Atlanteax]

Fuck...I fell asleep.

A little ironic that you forgot to put in your orders, after you were let down when TheE forgot in your previous game.

Hopefully it won't cost you too much momentum as A-H, but I'd say that several of your neighbors got extra time/space as a result.

Granted, I'm probably stating the obvious, sorry.

[Artha]

Moves are due tonight right?

[Nieninque]

A little ironic that you forgot to put in your orders, after you were let down when TheE forgot in your previous game.

Hopefully it won't cost you too much momentum as A-H, but I'd say that several of your neighbors got extra time/space as a result.

Granted, I'm probably stating the obvious, sorry.

Hardly ironic.
I didnt screw anyone over in not putting my orders in.
Thanks for the kind thoughts though.

[TheEschaton]

Moves due in less than 4 hours.

Still waiting on some.

I plan on being sauced, so maybe 1 or 2 EST for an update, with probably a smartass comment.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

So, friend's wife put the kibash (kebash?) on the getting sauced bit, so here I am updating 2 minutes after midnight so I can fall asleep sober....

As Austria-Hungary roars awake, another European power falls asleep - where is France? Does it dare to hold strong while the rest of Europe fights for power? Will England open a two front war against both the Russians and the French? Will the Austrians attempts to move outwards be in any way checked? Can Turkey defend against a threat from across the Mediterranean? Just who exactly are the Russians friends with? Can commanders across Europe learn how to command????

Austria-Hungary:
A Tri - Ven
A Ser - Bul
F Gre S A Ser - Bul
A Bud - Gal
A Vie - Boh

Germany:
A Ruh - Bur
A Mun S A Ruh-Bur
F Den - Bal
A Kie - Den
A Sil - Boh

England:
A Nwy - Stp
F Eng - Pic
F Bel S F Eng - Pic
F Nao - Mao
F Iri S F Nao-Mao

Russia:
F Swe H
A War S A Bud - Gal
F Rum S F Bla
F Bla C A Sev - Ank
A Ukr - Sev

Italy:
A Pie - Mar
A Tun - Syr (order failed! Your convoys were going to Smy, not Syr)
F Ion C A Tun - Smy
F Eas C A Tun - Smy

Turkey:
F Aeg - Gre
A Bul S F Aeg - Gre
A Con - Smy
F Arm H

A few notes, guys. Daniel, you failed to give the move order for your Sev unit, so it was considered a hold. Your convoy order was technically correct, but since A Sev H instead of A Sev-Ank, nothing happened. BL, you just put the wrong destination on your convoy in (or the wrong convoy routes on your convoys, depending).

In other words, Turkey was very, very, very lucky...

Retreats are due at 1 pm EST tomorrow from:
France (MAO, PIC)

At that point, I will tell you who will be building/disbanding this winter. I've also posted the schedule for this week in the first post.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

[Back]

Well fuck me.

[Stunseed]

< In other words, Turkey was very, very, very lucky... >

No shit. :)

[Back]

Disband Tun plz.

[Sean of the Thread]

Hmmm odd.. I know I sent my orders in... TREACHERY!

I double know that my retreats are sent. PLEASE get back to me if you don't receive these as well.

[Artha]

Daniel, you failed to give the move order for your Sev unit, so it was considered a hold.
I'm not complaining about the move not happening (shit happens :shrug:), but I don't see why that would be necessary. Why would I have a fleet convoy an army and not do it? Convoys are considered a type of move, so I didn't figure it was needed to explicitly state the movement move also.

[Sean of the Thread]

Welcome to the fuckery of diplomacy. :(

I'm pissed my orders were not received.. but such is life.

[TheEschaton]

Sean, I was surprised too. It was 11:55 and I was looking for you, but you weren't online. I checked my inbox, my spam folder, everything. Do you have it in your outbox?

Retreats I got. Retreats are as follows:

A Pic-Par
F Mao-Por

I've put the new map as the "Resolved Map" on the first post.

Builds due:
Austria, 1
England, 1

Disbands due:
Italy, 1
Russia, 1.

Backlash, I'll count your post here for your disband. Builds/disbands due by 11:59 pm tonight.

And Daniel - those are the rules of Diplomacy. Maybe you should have read them. I didn't make that up. ;)

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

I'm not complaining about the move not happening (shit happens :shrug:), but I don't see why that would be necessary. Why would I have a fleet convoy an army and not do it? Convoys are considered a type of move, so I didn't figure it was needed to explicitly state the movement move also.

You have to give explicit orders for each unit otherwise they just hold. Pretty stupid commanders...but there you go. If you dont tell them to do something, they do nothing.

[TheEschaton]

map updated with retreats. I actually put the map with retreats under the other two instead of removing the old one.

Edit: and Artha, think of it this way. In the early 1900s, communication was poor, probably nonexistant between units in the field - communication came from one channel, probably, central command. Telling the fleet to convoy doesn't necessarily mean the commander of the army got the word that the fleet was waiting to convoy his army. Receiving no orders, he would have naturally assumed he was holding..

Edit: Do you guys want me to give a simple confirmation orders were received? A simple "thx"?

Builds/disbands by 11:59.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

.

Edit: Do you guys want me to give a simple confirmation orders were received? A simple "thx"?


-TheE-

I would like that.

[Back]

Ok, changed my mind on my disband. Apologies everyone. I’ll send my revised disband order directly to E and stop posting them. Bad idea.

[TheEschaton]

Winter 1902 builds/disbands:

Italy:
Disband F Eas

Russia:
Disband A Ukr

Austria-Hungary:
B A Tri

England:
B A Lon

Spring 1903 moves are due Tuesday, May 29th, at 11:59 pm.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

[Atlanteax]

I am looking forward to seeing how 1903 plays out!

[Xandalf]

Looks to be an interesting game already.

[TheEschaton]

Spring of 1903 with tensions mounting. How will the Italians suffer Austrian intrustion? How will Russia respond to English incursions right into the heart of the Motherland? Will the whirling dervish on the outskirts of Europe finally find the calm in the eye of the storm, lying in the middle of it all, Germany? Can the Turks hold on much longer?

Oh, boy, folks, some crazy ass moves this time around.

Spring 1903:
Italy:
F ion S Turkey F Aeg - Gre
A Pie - Tus
A Tun H

Russia:
F Swe - Nwy
A Sev - Mos
A War S A Sev - Mos
F Bla - Sev
F Rum - Bul

France:
A Par-Bur
A Mar S A Par-Bur
F Por-Mao
F Bre S F Por-Mao
A Spa S A Mar

Turkey:
F Aeg S Ion - Gre
A Smy - Con
F Arm S A Smy - Con (Order failed! You cannot support a unit moving to a province if you cannot move to that province yourself)
A Bul S Ion - Gre

Austria-Hungary:
F Gre S F Rum - Bul
A Ser S F Rum - Bul
A Gal S A Vie - Boh
A Vie - Boh
A Tri - Tyr
A Ven S A Tri - Tyr

England:
F Mao-Gas
A Stp-Nwy
F Iri-Eng
F Bel S F Iri-Eng
F Pic H

Germany:
A Bur S F Pic
A Mun S A Bur
A Den-Swe
F Bal S A Den-Swe
A Sil-War

A few notes: Please note the rules for special movements of fleets to coastal provinces with two coasts. In re: to Artha's move from Sev-Bul, since jDip accepts the move (counting A-H's support for a generic Sev-Bul move) despite it converting the move to (Sev-Bul EC), I'm willing to accept it. But try and match support and moves to the standards listed in the rules so I'm not confused. :)

Retreats from Russia (SWE) are due tomorrow at 1 pm EST. Turkey's BUL cannot retreat to anywhere, so it is automatically destroyed.

-TheE-

[Back]

MAPS

[Artha]

MAPS
QFT.

[Back]

FOCK THE GM!

[TheEschaton]

I'm trying, photobucket is being a pain in my ASS

[Back]

:rofl: Turning in. Catach you all to mo.

[TheEschaton]

Maps updated.

[Nieninque]

Oh what tangled webs we weave,
When mistakes within our orders screw our chances to deceive.

[TheEschaton]

I made a mistake, retreats are only due tonight at 11:59, this is spring, so no builds/disbands.

I'm hopping on a plane in a few hours, winging back to Boston. Should be home well before the deadline.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Retreats:

Russia:
Swe-Ska

Moves due Thursday at 11:59, for Fall 1903.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure.

[Sean of the Thread]

maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure.

Ain't no lie.

[Atlanteax]

maps updated. Will be an interesting move tomorrow, for sure. Ain't no lie.

The English Crown is keeping its fingers crossed...

[TheEschaton]

About 12 hours to go and I'm still waiting on orders from almost all of you. Some serious negotiations going on in the background, eh?!?

-TheE-

[Atlanteax]

About 12 hours to go and I'm still waiting on orders from almost all of you. Some serious negotiations going on in the background, eh?!?

-TheE-

Dude, as you know, it's called Diplomacy!

Hopefully no one suffers from lack of orders being submitted.

[Izalude]

I'm at work... Will submit my orders after I get home.

[Sean of the Thread]

Mine will be in around 11:58 EST as usual.

[Sean of the Thread]

The English Crown is keeping its fingers crossed...

:goodluck: :wink:

[Stunseed]

Map/update in 3 minutes and 30 seconds, plz.

[Back]

Its TheE’s birthday. Expect an angry drunken post soon.

[Stunseed]

Haha, I'm just kidding, toss an extra drink down for me.

[TheEschaton]

It's my birthday. And I had to wait til the last minute to see if someone would turn in their moves. Someone didn't. Boo. Russia's loss. Congrats to Turkey, for making sure it didn't lose it's supply depot.

Fall 1903:
Turkey:
A Con - Bul
F Aeg S A Con - Bul
F Arm - Bla

Italy:
F Ion - Gre
A Tus - Rom
A Tun H

Germany:
F Bal-Den
A Sil S Mun
A Bur-Par
A Mun H
A Swe-Nor

England:
A Stp-Nor
F Gas-Bre
F Eng-Iri
F Bel-Hol
F Pic-Bel

France:
F Mao-Eng
A par-pic
A spa-gas
a mar S a spa-gas
F bre s a par-pic

Austria Hungary:
A Ven - Rom
A Boh - Mun
A Tyr S A Boh - Mun
A Gal - Sil
F Gre S F Bul (ec)
A Ser S F Gre

Retreats are required by England from GAS, Germany from MUN (losing a supply center, ouch), and Russia from BUL. They are due by 1 pm EST tomorrow.

-TheE-

[Back]

You did not post AH’s.

[TheEschaton]

map updated.

<insert drunken comment here>

-TheE-

[Stunseed]

< insert taking an extra drink >

I start my vacation tomorrow. The bacardi vanilla is looking REAL good right now.

[TheEschaton]

Sorry, A-H's moves posted. She got them in so much earlier than the rest of you that I had it in jDip already, and forgot to c&p them in. :P

[TheEschaton]

by the way guys, perfect orders (acept for Arhta not posting his.) Keep them coming.

-TheE-

[Back]

Ok, now go back out and party.

[Stunseed]

< (acept for Arhta not posting his.) >

Looks like the extra drink has been taken. Huzzah for you!

[Atlanteax]

The English Crown is thrilled with the activity of Fall 1903.

Guess keeping fingers crossed does indeed works wonders!

[Sean of the Thread]

It's my birthday.

Happy BD hookers are on ME!
















No I'm not paying for them silly..They better get off of me before my wife comes home though.

[Daniel]

< insert taking an extra drink >

I start my vacation tomorrow. The bacardi vanilla is looking REAL good right now.

This has to be the gayest post ever, besides anything written by Necromancer.

[Stunseed]

Pfft. Dr.Pepper + Bacardi Vanilla is one of the smoother "quick" drinks I keep around. But thanks for the consideration.

[Sean of the Thread]

This has to be the gayest post ever, besides anything written by Necromancer.

Or Arkans/luke who puts grenadine in his fucking drinks/beer.

[Sean of the Thread]

Pfft. Dr.Pepper + Bacardi Vanilla is one of the smoother "quick" drinks I keep around. But thanks for the consideration.

You need some whiskey pal.

[TheEschaton]

Retreats, Fall 1903:

Germany:
Mun-Ruh

England:
Gas-Mao

Russia:
Bul-Rum

Builds due tonight by 11:59 pm by the following:
Austria (1)
England (1)
Turkey (1)

Disbands due tonight by 11:59 pm by the following:
France (1)
Russia (1)

[TheEschaton]

And ignore that I posted these an hour early. I just realized. Bit hungover, but I figure - all retreats are in. who cares?

[Stunseed]

< You need some whiskey pal. >

If I'm "out" and drinking, whiskey is definately in the battle plan. I guess the difference is if I'm at home, I'm mainly just taking the edge off, whereas if I'm going to go out and there's a DD, I'm prolly going to get partially/totally fucked up.

I also don't desire to influence the kiddos into believing that drinking is okay, so I've got the alcohol stored away. I know, I'm a prude.

[Artha]

Fuck falling asleep.

[Atlanteax]

Fuck falling asleep.

You had 1.5 days to submit orders???

Nevermind that the night before I was cussing you out about your stray fleet in SKA!

[Sean of the Thread]

Nevermind that the night before I was cussing you out about your stray fleet in SKA!

Yeah nevermind that it's only tying up four of your units STILL.

[TheEschaton]

4 hours til the build/disband deadline.

Remember, if no orders are submitted, your build is automatically waived for this turn, and I am forced to disband your unit furthest away from your home depots.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

Build?

[Back]

Yeah, only builds are due tonight. Next move orders are Sunday. The night of the Italian insurgence.

[Artha]

You had 1.5 days to submit orders???
I'm an epic procrastinator too.

[TheEschaton]

So, Russia fails to submit orders again. No worries, I'm sure it's what he would have done anyways.

Disbands:
Russia:
Disband Ska

France:
Disband Mar

Builds:
A-H:
B A Tri

England:
B F Edi

Turkey:
B A Ank

Moves for Spring 1904 are due on Sunday, June 3rd, at 11:59 pm. I'll update the new schedule too for the next two weeks.

-TheE-

[Artha]

No worries, I'm sure it's what he would have done anyways.
Yeah, I remembered at like 10 till and figured I'd be doing that anyway.

[TheEschaton]

maps and schedule updated.

And no, I cannot move the Sunday move up. I'm moving to NYC this weekend, and I need all those days to pack/move/unpack.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Moves due in a little over 8 hours. Still waiting for orders from most of you.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

still waitin' on three of you. If I haven't responded to your EMail, I don't have your moves.

[TheEschaton]

In the East, the Ruso-Austrian Alliance builds power, slowly choking off the Ottoman Empire, while in the West, the mighty English flex their power by moving into Continental Europe.

However, smaller powers, desperate to grab power, have suddenly lashed out in surprising ways. Will their ploys to sneak into the heart of these Empire work....or will the mighty powers swiftly destroy them?

Meanwhile, Germany idly consolidates its power centrally - will anyone broach the compact, yet comprehensive German force?

SPring 1904:

Austria-Hungary:
F Gre - Bul/sc
A Ser S F Gre - Bul/sc
A Gal - Sil
A Mun S A Gal - Sil
A Ven - Apu
A Tri - Ven
A Tyr S A Mun

Germany:
A Swe-Den
F Den-Kie
A Sil-Ber
A Ruh S F Den-Kie
A Par H

Italy:
F Ion C A Tun - Alb
A Tun - Alb
A Tus - Rom

Russia:
F Sev - Bla
F Rum S F Sev - Bla
A War H
A Mos - Stp

England:
F Edi-Nwg
F Hol-Nth
F Bel-Pic
F Iri-Eng
F Mao-Gas
A Stp H
A Lon H

France:
A Pic - Wal
F Eng Convoy A Pic - Wal
F Bre - Mao
A Gas-Spa

Turkey:
F Aeg S Bul
A Bul H
F Bla - Sev
A Ank - Arm

Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.

I need one retreat, due tomorrow night at 11:59 (Monday, June 4th), from Turkey retreating from BLA.

-TheE-

[Artha]

Maps! Maps!

[TheEschaton]

maps updated.

[Stunseed]

Retreat order has been sent.

[TheEschaton]

I'm going to bed, and I'll deal with it tomorrow. If you all want me to post it before midnight tomorrow and Stunseed agrees, i'll do it when I have time. First day of work at the Manhattan DA tomorrow.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

I

Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.


-TheE-

Tee Hee!

[Atlanteax]

Wow, guys, some surprising moves by Italy and France. Let's see if they work out.

-TheE-
Tee Hee!

You'll be turning that smile upside down come Wednesday!

[TheEschaton]

Turkey's retreat"

F Bla-Ank

Moves due Tuesday night at 11:59.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

maps updated.

[TheEschaton]

Fall 1904 moves due in less than 2 hours.

[TheEschaton]

Italy continues to surprise, and Austria continues to roll. And France almost capitalizes on an English mistake.

Fall 1904:

England:
F Gas-Bre
F Pic-Eng
F Iri-Liv
F Nwg-Nor
A Stp-Mos
A Lon H
A Nth S A Lon (I'm sorry - you have a fleet in Nth, not an army. Order failed)

Germany:
A Par S F Gas-Bre
F Kie S Ber
A Ruh-Bel
A Ber H
A Den H

Russia:
F Bla - Sev
F Rum S F Gre - Bul/SC
A War - Lvn
A Mos - Stp

Austria-Hungary:
A Ven - Rom
A Apu S A Ven - Rom
A Tyr - Tri
F Gre - Bul/sc
A Ser S F Gre - Bul/sc
A Mun S A Sil
A Sil S A Mun

Italy:
A Rom - Tus
A Alb - Gre
F Ion S A Alb - Gre

Turkey:
A Bul - Ser
F Aeg - Con
F Ank - Bla
A Arm - Sev

France:
A Spa-Gas
A Wal-Lon
F Eng S A Wal-Lon
F Mao-Nao

You're lucky you cut support, England, or your screwed up order would have cost you London.

Turkey was the only one dislodged, but as they have nowhere to retreat to, the Bulgarian Army is automatically disbanded. Therefore, no retreats are required tomorrow.

The Bre depot is now English, Rom is now Austrian, as is Bul, but Gre is suddenly Italian.

Builds due:
Austria, 1 (gained 2, lost 1)

Disbands due:
France, 1.

Italy managed to gain 1, lose 1, so they don't have to do anything. And of course, the Turkish army already disbanded.

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

maps updated.

[Atlanteax]

Italy continues to surprise, and Austria continues to roll. And France almost capitalizes on an English mistake.

Fall 1904:

A Nth S A Lon (I'm sorry - you have a fleet in Nth, not an army. Order failed)

You're lucky you cut support, England, or your screwed up order would have cost you London.
-TheE-

Ouch!

Could had said something... but obviously I'll need to do a better job of double-checking my submitted orders.

[TheEschaton]

I didn't check the orders til I put them in. I just responded if I got them.

Sorry, but I just started a new job, don't have time to check all your orders. :P

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

You checked F Iri - Liv

[TheEschaton]

That's because jDip labels its maps non-standardly. Abbreviations of maps are usually just the first three letters of a province, but that would mean there are two "Liv" on the map. Any normal person would know he's trying to move from Iri to Liverpool, not Livonia, so I don't see why an order put in a standard rule format should be rejected because jDip is peculiar in this one aspect.

Oh, and I only checked it after the deadline - when I inputted the order and it didn't go through for AMBIGUITY (IE, wasn't rejected in jDip, they just claimed it was ambiguous).

[TheEschaton]

But then again, maybe you wanted me to reject all of yours and Artha's moves that referred to Bul (sc), since jDip only seems to understand Bul/SC.

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

Well first of all, he obviously doesnt have an Army in the Irish sea, so "Any normal person" could see he meant to move his fleet, not his army.

Secondly, while jDip "didnt reject" the Irish sea to Liverpool move, it also didn't push it through, so it required some checking and amending on your part to enable it to do so. I would argue, however, that "didn't go through" and "wasn't rejected" are mutually incompatible. If it didnt go through, it was rejected.
I dont care either way which you do, but it's kinda nice to be consistent.

In terms of the moves me and Artha put in regarding Bulgaria, as you pointed out at the time, jDip read those as moving to the appropriate coast (there was only one option for each of the fleets concerned to be able to move to) so the program accepted the orders and executed them accordingly. I believe your request was more to do with you being able to follow it than the program, which is somewhat different.

Nevertheless, you previously posted some guidance on the use of coasts which, if you look at Artha's and my own orders this last turn, was implemented accordingly.

Thank you for playing.

[Nieninque]

p.s. you are doing a good job with the updates and stuff.

Just saying :)

[Nieninque]

And I'm just arguing for the sake of it. Ignore me.

[Sean of the Thread]

It's not TheE's responsibility to notify erroneous orders like that imo. That much I agreed with Xandalf on.

[Atlanteax]

Wait...

So, TheE is is typing in the orders?

Seems more likely that he is using the program and selecting "move" "support" "hold" and click the requisite places and moves.

.

Anyhow, I'm pleased with the pace of the updates... I just wish we weren't wasting full days on retreat/disband orders. Game would be further along now otherwise.

[Nieninque]

No he isnt typing in the orders. He is cutting and pasting the orders into the program. Which is why it's funny that he changed your order so that Iri - Lvp worked (you wrote Iri - Liv) but not A Blah - Blah instead of F Blah - Blah.

[Atlanteax]

No he isnt typing in the orders. He is cutting and pasting the orders into the program. Which is why it's funny that he changed your order so that Iri - Lvp worked (you wrote Iri - Liv) but not A Blah - Blah instead of F Blah - Blah.

I agree there.

In the meantime, I obviously need to be more careful about submitted orders.

[Nieninque]

I am now pasting my orders into jDip first to make sure they work out. Only after I have done that do I send them to the E

[Sean of the Thread]

You and you alone are responsible for issuing correct orders. If you fuck them up.. they're fucked up. That's the way it is.

[Nieninque]

/agree

[TheEschaton]

I can't wait til the cries of "GM favoritism!!!!!!1111oneone" start. I've been applying to be a GS GM for the past 8 years hoping to hear that, maybe this can be a close second.

-TheE-

[Artha]

GM favoritism!!!!!!1111oneone

[TheEschaton]

Winter 1904 builds/disbands:

France:
Disband F Eng

Austria-Hungary:
B A Bud

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

maps updated.

I kept the moves from last turn (Fall 1904) instead of replacing it with the builds/disbands "moves" map because I think the former is probably more useful. The resolved map after builds/disbands follows afterwards.

Spring 1905 moves are due tomorrow night (Thursday night) at 11:59 pm.

Live long and prosper,
-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

Someone does something, I dunno, I'm still pissed they let Paris out of jail. Oh, by the way, Backlash, you can't move from Gre-Nap without a convoy, as opposed to the support order you gave.

Spring 1905:

Italy:
A Tus - Ven
A Gre - Nap
F ion S A Gre - Nap

France:
A Wal - Lvp
F Nao S A wal - lvp
A gas - spa

Germany:
A Par H
A Bel-Ruh
A Ber-Pru
F Kie-Bal
A Den-Kie

England:
A Stp H
F Nwy S A Stp
F Bre-Mao
F Pic-Bre
A Lon-Wal
F Lvp H
F Nth-Nwg

Turkey:
F Con - Bla
F Ank S Con - Bla
A Arm - Sev

Russia:
A Mos - Stp
A Lvn S A Mos - Stp
F Bla - Sev
F Rum S F Bla - Sev

Austria-Hungary:
A Mun S A Sil
A Sil S A Mun
A Ser - Bul
F Bul (sc) - Aeg
A Apu - Nap
A Rom S A Apu - Nap
A Tri - Alb
A Bud - Ser

English retreat from Lvp due Friday night at 11:59, then a whole weekend for your hellishly important Fall 1905 moves!

-TheE-

[TheEschaton]

oh, and this time, I updated the maps first.

[Back]

Oh, by the way, Backlash, you can't move from Gre-Nap without a convoy, as opposed to the support order you gave.

It wouldn’t have made it anyway. But thanks for stating the obvious.

[TheEschaton]

yeah, but you would have stood off with A-H, and THEY wouldn't have taken one of your home supply depots.

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

No it would have been 2v1 Austria still would have taken it.

[TheEschaton]

Ah, wasn't paying attention. :P

You can barely see the dashed line on the support from Rom.

-TheE-

[Nieninque]

yeah, its hard when they are so close.

[Back]

yeah, but you would have stood off with A-H, and THEY wouldn't have taken one of your home supply depots.

-TheE-

Damn, kick a guy when he’s down! Heartless bastard. Hows that move to NY going?

[TheEschaton]

It's awesome. I'm loving the Lower East Side. :)

Gonna catch some dinner, then go out TIL 4 IN THE MORNING. Thank God cooler heads have prevailed and a person can drink til 4 in the morning.

[Sean of the Thread]

Closing time is 4 am there? Ouch.

It's 2 and 3 am around here.. with no public transit. :(

[Artha]

House parties are where it's at. Closing time here is 6am :).

[Sean of the Thread]

Legal closing time or house parties stop then? House parties everywhere but legal time is 2 am / 3 am here. Unless of course you goto a bottle club.