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Nieninque
04-19-2007, 01:25 PM
So what do you have to do in the US in order to be able to buy a gun?

Genuinely curious and not wanting to clutter the other threads up with this or have it lost in the other threads.

Fallen
04-19-2007, 01:27 PM
I think it depends on the kind. Shotguns are supposedly easier to get. I really need to pick one up. This neighborhood is scaaary.

Goretawn
04-19-2007, 01:30 PM
When buying a new gun, there is at least a 7 day wait for a backgrounds check. You can pay for it, then it is held until you are cleared to purchase. Then you can pick it up. That is if you are going to a store that sells them. You can walk downtown into an alley and pick one up cheaper, serial number filed off for you already, and no paperwork. Your choice.

Gan
04-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Under federal law supported by the National Rifle Association, the use of a firearm in a violent or drug-trafficking crime is punishable by a mandatory prison sentence of up to 20 years. A second conviction, if the firearm is a machine gun or is equipped with a silencer, brings life imprisonment without release. Violating firearms laws should lead to very real punishment for violent criminals, but the laws first must be enforced.

Ineligible Persons
The following classes of people are ineligible to possess, receive, ship, or transport firearms or ammunition:

Those convicted of crimes punishable by imprisonment for over one year, except state misdemeanors punishable by two years or less.
Fugitives from justice.
Unlawful users of certain depressant, narcotic, or stimulant drugs.
Those adjudicated as mental defectives or incompetents or those committed to any mental institution.
Illegal aliens.
Citizens who have renounced their citizenship.
Those persons dishonorably discharged from the Armed Forces.
Persons less than 18 years of age for the purchase of a shotgun or rifle.
Persons less than 21 years of age for the purchase of a firearm that is other than a shotgun or rifle.
Persons subject to a court order that restrains such persons from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner.
Persons convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.Persons under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year are ineligible to receive, transport, or ship any firearm or ammunition. Under limited conditions, relief from disability may be obtained from the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, or through a pardon, expungement, restoration of rights, or setting aside of a conviction.

Acquiring Firearms
The following restrictions apply to firearms acquired through purchase, trade, receipt of gifts, or by other means.

From Dealers
Provided that federal law and the laws of both the dealer's and purchaser's states and localities are complied with:

An individual 21 years of age or older may acquire a handgun from a dealer federally licensed to sell firearms in the individual's state of residence
An individual 18 years of age or older may purchase a rifle or shotgun from a federally licensed dealer in any stateIt shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to sell, deliver, or transfer a firearm unless the federal firearms licensee receives notice of approval from a prescribed source approving the transfer.

Sale of a firearm by a federally licensed dealer must be documented by a federal form 4473, which identifies and includes other information about the purchaser, and records the make, model, and serial number of the firearm. Sales to an individual of multiple handguns within a five-day period require dealer notification to the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Violations of dealer record keeping requirements are punishable by a penalty of up to $1000 and one year's imprisonment.

Sales Between Individuals
An individual who does not possess a federal firearms license may not sell a firearm to a resident of another state without first transferring the firearm to a dealer in the purchaser's state. Firearms received by bequest or intestate succession are exempt from those sections of the law which forbid the transfer, sale, delivery or transportation of firearms into a state other than the transferor's state of residence.

Temporary use of Another's Firearm
Provided that all other laws are complied with, an individual may temporarily borrow or rent a firearm for lawful sporting purposes throughout the United States.

Antiques
Antique firearms and replicas are exempted from the aforementioned restrictions. Antique firearms are defined as: any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898, and any replica of a firearm as designed above if the replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire ammunition, or uses fixed ammunition, which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels or commercial trade, any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. (Note: Antiques exemptions vary considerably under state laws.)

Shipping Firearms
Firearms may not be mailed or shipped interstate from one non-FFL to another non-FFL. Personally owned rifles and shotguns may be mailed or shipped to an FFL in any state for any lawful purpose, including sale, repair, or customizing. An FFL may ship a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received. Under U.S. Postal regulations, handguns may be sent via the Postal Service only from one FFL to another FFL, or between authorized government officials.
A person may ship a rifle or shotgun to himself, in care of a person who lives in another state, for purposes of hunting.

Firearms or ammunition delivered to a common carrier for shipment must be accompanied by a written notice to the carrier of the contents of the shipment.

Transporting Firearms During Travel
A provision of federal law serves as a defense to state or local laws which would prohibit the passage of persons with firearms in interstate travel.
Notwithstanding any state or local law, a person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm if the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

Federal law prohibits the carrying of any firearm, concealed or unconcealed, on or about the person or in carry-on baggage while aboard an aircraft.The Transportation Security Administration(TSA) has established certain requirementsfortransporting firearms and ammunition. Firearms must be carried in a locked hard sided case. Ammunitionmust be declared and can be transported in checked baggage or in the same container as the firearm as long the firearm is unloaded.

Any passenger who owns or legally possesses a firearm being transported aboard any common or contract carrier for movement with the passenger in interstate or foreign commerce must deliver the unloaded firearm into custody of the pilot, captain, conductor, or operator of such common or contract carrier for the duration of the trip.

Ammunition
As with firearms, shipments of ammunition must be accompanied by a written notice of the shipment's contents. It is unlawful for any licensed importer, dealer, manufacturer or collector to transfer shotgun or rifle ammunition to anyone under the age of 18, or any handgun ammunition to anyone under the age of 21.

It is illegal to manufacture or sell armor-piercing handgun ammunition.

Dealers
Persons who engage in the business of buying or selling firearms must be licensed by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives of the U.S. Department of Justice. A special class of "licensed collectors" provides for the purchase and sale of firearms designated by the BATFE as "curios and relics." Class III dealers may sell fully-automatic firearms manufactured prior to May 19, 1986, and other federally registered firearms and devices restricted under Title II of the Gun Control Act, to individuals who obtain approval from the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury after payment of a tax and clearance following a criminal background check.

Violations of restrictions on Title II firearms and devices are punishable by a penalty of up to $10,000 and 10 years imprisonment.


In addition to federal gun laws imposed by the National Firearms Act (1934), Gun Control Act (1968), Firearms Owner's Protection Act (1986), Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993), the 1994 Omnibus Crime Control Act and other laws, most states and some local jurisdictions have imposed their own firearms restrictions.



http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/FederalGunLaws.aspx?ID=60

Kranar
04-19-2007, 01:35 PM
When buying a new gun, there is at least a 7 day wait for a backgrounds check. You can pay for it, then it is held until you are cleared to purchase. Then you can pick it up. That is if you are going to a store that sells them. You can walk downtown into an alley and pick one up cheaper, serial number filed off for you already, and no paperwork. Your choice.


Aren't there instant background checks?

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 01:39 PM
So what do you have to do in the US in order to be able to buy a gun?

Go to a mom and pops gunshow in Florida on Native American grounds and hand someone paper while they hand you an AK-47 with a banana clip.

Like the dangers of tobacco, a rifle can only be purchased at age 18.

Like the evil grains of liquor require one to be 21 in order to never have a fake ID to obtain said heinous substance, handgun permits are obtainable at such an age, as well.

If gun laws abided by the above NRA pamphlet, we'd live in a safer world for sure.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 01:40 PM
Aren't there instant background checks?

Thinking guns and laws is naivity personified, Kranar. No disrespect.

Hulkein
04-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Aren't there instant background checks?

Yes. My mom walked out of the store with the gun the day she went to buy one.

Nieninque
04-19-2007, 01:43 PM
So what does a background check consist of?

Skeeter
04-19-2007, 01:48 PM
http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=oh

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 01:49 PM
So what does a background check consist of?

Depending on what weapon/piece of machinery/plane/tank/etc. you're trying to operate makes the difference.

Anyone not of Semitic or African features can usually obtain a handgun with a detailed background check whereas a suit and tie Anglo Saxon can usually walk in and out the same day. Not that there aren't implications of awareness that play into this, but we should be equally discriminated against when it comes to firearms :shrug:

It's all location, really.

DeV
04-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Yes. My mom walked out of the store with the gun the day she went to buy one.
She'd obtained a FOID card already, correct?

Skeeter
04-19-2007, 01:51 PM
I can go to any gun show. which is a weekly event around here and buy as many guns as I want, cash on hand no questions asked.

Hulkein
04-19-2007, 01:55 PM
Anyone not of Semitic or African features can usually obtain a handgun with a detailed background check whereas a suit and tie Anglo Saxon can usually walk in and out the same day. Not that there aren't implications of awareness that play into this, but we should be equally discriminated against when it comes to firearms :shrug:

What the fuck are you talking about? They check everyone, and they look for violent crimes and the like.

@DEV: I'm not sure if she had already registered for a FOID card before hand.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 02:18 PM
What the fuck are you talking about? They check everyone, and they look for violent crimes and the like.

@DEV: I'm not sure if she had already registered for a FOID card before hand.

You must live in a nice hazy bubble.

Gan
04-19-2007, 02:22 PM
You must live in a nice hazy bubble.

Stan,

How many hand guns do you own? Have purchased? Do you have FOID card? Concealed weapon permit? Law enforcement license? etc...

I'm curious as to what facts/experience you're basing the hazy bubble comment on...

DeV
04-19-2007, 02:25 PM
I had no idea it was possible to purchase a firearm from a supposed reputable dealer without first having or even applying for a FOID card prior to going home with the purchase. That should definitely be a requirement regardless of instant background checks.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Stan,

How many hand guns do you own? Have purchased? Do you have FOID card? Concealed weapon permit? Law enforcement license? etc...

I'm curious as to what facts/experience you're basing the hazy bubble comment on...

I've lived in Florida.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 02:29 PM
You really wanna be concrete, the Thunderbird's Swapshop (sp?) outsales at them bigass billboard advertised gunshows polluting 95 past Miramar on the Native "preservations" where I held said Egyptian AK-47 with a banana clip and saw every single gun under the sun being pushed like the yayo, yo.

Gan
04-19-2007, 02:33 PM
I've lived in Florida.

So you're basing these comments on personal or second hand experience? I mean, just because I live in Texas doesnt mean I've shot anyone or that I own more guns than I have teeth.

However, I have purchased firearms, I have a permit to carry license (expired now :( ) and I've been to gun shows. I've also been in law enforcement and seen how guns can be obtained legally and illegally. That still doesnt change the laws surrounding legal purchases. Understand that its not a denial that guns arent bought illegally. I've seen dealers purposefully skirt the requirements at gun shows or offer you a 'trunk' weapon if you stop by their shop or meet them after the show. Its just that I find some of your comments either purposefully inflated or you're just being an artist with your commentary.

I wont ask you how long ago you lived in FL, even though laws and availability change over time. ;)

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 02:39 PM
So what do you have to do in the US in order to be able to buy a gun?

Genuinely curious and not wanting to clutter the other threads up with this or have it lost in the other threads.

It depends on 100 different variables.

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 02:42 PM
Aren't there instant background checks?

There are instant background checks if you're a licensed/concealed carry permit holder. To obtain a carry permit you have already gone through training and classes and a rigid federal and state back ground check taking months.

The 7 days is called the "cool down/off" period. Permit holders in Florida can walk in and buy any pistol same day/hour.

Semi auto rifles of any type are nothing different. You can't even buy ammo in Florida if you have any domestic violence charges.

Gan
04-19-2007, 02:43 PM
There are instant background checks if you're a licensed/concealed carry permit holder. To obtain a carry permit you have already gone through training and classes and a rigid federal and state back ground check taking months.

The 7 days is called the "cool down/off" period. Permit holders in Florida can walk in and buy any pistol same day/hour.

The 7 days period shifts the possibility of a crime of passion over to pre-meditation.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 02:44 PM
So you're basing these comments on personal or second hand experience? I mean, just because I live in Texas doesnt mean I've shot anyone or that I own more guns than I have teeth.

However, I have purchased firearms, I have a permit to carry license (expired now :( ) and I've been to gun shows. I've also been in law enforcement and seen how guns can be obtained legally and illegally. That still doesnt change the laws surrounding legal purchases. Understand that its not a denial that guns arent bought illegally. I've seen dealers purposefully skirt the requirements at gun shows or offer you a 'trunk' weapon if you stop by their shop or meet them after the show. Its just that I find some of your comments either purposefully inflated or you're just being an artist with your commentary.

I wont ask you how long ago you lived in FL, even though laws and availability change over time. ;)

In the words of the governor of California, "Trust me."

I'm imagining Tejas is probably more equiped with standard procedure since it's so deeply imbedded, correct me if I'm wrong, in your guys' subculture. Wranglin'!

Ehm, I've been to Austin for like 3 days so I can say that I wouldn't really know what local laws, regardless of an overhead protocol are, down thur'. I would imagine Texas gun laws, sure, being savvy, just based on heritage, regardless of The Dixie Chicks.

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 02:44 PM
Depending on what weapon/piece of machinery/plane/tank/etc. you're trying to operate makes the difference.

Anyone not of Semitic or African features can usually obtain a handgun with a detailed background check whereas a suit and tie Anglo Saxon can usually walk in and out the same day. Not that there aren't implications of awareness that play into this, but we should be equally discriminated against when it comes to firearms :shrug:

It's all location, really.

You're clueless.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 02:47 PM
You're clueless.

No.

I'm just exposed. Non-nekkidly, to all the ladies' dismay.

Gan
04-19-2007, 03:14 PM
In the words of the governor of California, "Trust me."

I'm imagining Tejas is probably more equiped with standard procedure since it's so deeply imbedded, correct me if I'm wrong, in your guys' subculture. Wranglin'!

Ehm, I've been to Austin for like 3 days so I can say that I wouldn't really know what local laws, regardless of an overhead protocol are, down thur'. I would imagine Texas gun laws, sure, being savvy, just based on heritage, regardless of The Dixie Chicks.

Interestingly enough the first gun I ever learned to shoot was a BB gun. The first real gun I learned how to shoot was a shotgun. Then a rifle. Then a pistol. Each one was advanced after proficiency of use, safety, and knowledge could be demonstrated through testing and observation.

I currently own 1 shotgun, two rifles (one is an antique 1886 Marlin .44 lever action), and 1 pistol. (and 1 pellet gun, 1 BB gun).

I intend to teach my son about firearms so he wont wind up a statistic. I'm a firm believer in safety and responsibility through knowledge and exposure when it comes to firearms. They are not toys, this isnt the movies or cartoons, and people do not usually jump right back up after being shot. I also believe that firearms should be locked up or disabled until brought out for use.

And yes, firearms are a large part of the rural culture and western culture that is so richly found in Texas (as in some other states I can think of).

Hulkein
04-19-2007, 04:27 PM
I had no idea it was possible to purchase a firearm from a supposed reputable dealer without first having or even applying for a FOID card prior to going home with the purchase. That should definitely be a requirement regardless of instant background checks.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I think my mom went to buy a gun a few months before she actually did, so they did the background check then. She never went to finish the purchase though. She walked out with it the day I went with her because of that previous check.

Methais
04-19-2007, 04:28 PM
So what do you have to do in the US in order to be able to buy a gun?

Genuinely curious and not wanting to clutter the other threads up with this or have it lost in the other threads.

Where I live (Louisiana) I think you just have to take some class and that's pretty much it. There might be a bit more, but that class (which is a few hours long I think) is the biggest obstacle as far as I know.

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 04:36 PM
The 7 days period shifts the possibility of a crime of passion over to pre-meditation.

Exactly. It is only 3 days in Florida however.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Interestingly enough the first gun I ever learned to shoot was a BB gun. The first real gun I learned how to shoot was a shotgun. Then a rifle. Then a pistol. Each one was advanced after proficiency of use, safety, and knowledge could be demonstrated through testing and observation.

I currently own 1 shotgun, two rifles (one is an antique 1886 Marlin .44 lever action), and 1 pistol. (and 1 pellet gun, 1 BB gun).

I intend to teach my son about firearms so he wont wind up a statistic. I'm a firm believer in safety and responsibility through knowledge and exposure when it comes to firearms. They are not toys, this isnt the movies or cartoons, and people do not usually jump right back up after being shot. I also believe that firearms should be locked up or disabled until brought out for use.

And yes, firearms are a large part of the rural culture and western culture that is so richly found in Texas (as in some other states I can think of).

I don't think anyone's priority should be placed on a "problem" of artificing through cultural heritage. I think that's a strong part of someone's identity and, paired with gun safety to boot, from an educated human being such as yourself, can produce skillful knowledge, both in safety, and in history.

The problem as I see it, and my equal support for Independent Libertarian values, is that you can't (well, you can, and we do) make a law of the lands that will seemingly apply the same as it would for one area in The States as it would be for an entirely different group of people.

This is why I feel that despite some of my strong quarrels with Giuliani, he, as the mayor of New York City, did more for the city than any other person ever did before him by a long shot -- The culture of guns in NYC is probably about as opposite as what it means for specific areas of Texas, or upstate New York, or Florida, etc.

And I kind of have to hand it to him for superseding ATF/NRA law: I don't think everything he did as mayor contributed to NYC's unbelievable self-regulation changes after Dinkins, nor would I vote for him, personally, due to my severe beef with at least three of his ideologies, especially ones laid out at an Executive Branch level, but I have to take my hat off to a true libertarian approach to illegalize guns in NYC because NYC is NYC and not small town Texas.

I think some very overt, overbearing laws; not exclusively gun laws per se, should be disempowered and, in turn, serious money should be invested by the city council into counteracting any given stereotypical lifestyle when deemed as dangerous when boosted by a dangerous heritage. Someone else's weapon/abortion/globalization values may work for someone else, but certainly not for everyone and there's not enough micromanagement going on by too many town or city councils in The U.S.

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Funny you should say "I don't think anyone's priority should be placed on a "problem" of artificing through cultural heritage. I think that's a strong part of someone's identity and, paired with gun safety to boot, from an educated human being such as yourself, can produce skillful knowledge, both in safety, and in history."

Since Rudy's crackdown surely effected an entire rural state attached to that tumor of a city.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 05:07 PM
Pataki was governor and Albany robbed us kthnx.

Edit - If you actually mean state state, then what exactly do you mean, out of morbid curiousity?

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 05:11 PM
If Pataki = governor responsible for the strict NY gun laws then why are you sucking Rudy's dick over it?

"nd I kind of have to hand it to him for superseding ATF/NRA law: I don't think everything he did as mayor contributed to NYC's unbelievable self-regulation changes after Dinkins, nor would I vote for him, personally, due to my severe beef with at least three of his ideologies, especially ones laid out at an Executive Branch level, but I have to take my hat off to a true libertarian approach to illegalize guns in NYC because NYC is NYC and not small town Texas."

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 05:13 PM
If Pataki = governor responsible for the strict NY gun laws then why are you sucking Rudy's dick over it?

I said NYC ya mook.

Sean of the Thread
04-19-2007, 05:15 PM
I said NYC ya mook.

Which is part of what state that Pataki was in CHARGE of?

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 05:19 PM
Which is part of what state that Pataki was in CHARGE of?

I only mentioned Pataki because you said "state."

Governor = State, Mayor = City.

Skeeter
04-19-2007, 05:56 PM
I'll happily buy all the guns you guys need and traffic them to your respective states for a nominal fee.

kookiegod
04-19-2007, 06:36 PM
There really is no 'instant' nationwide background check.

Too many cities and courts do not report to their state repository (if there even is one), and even then, given that they are a state agency, getting the information into the system takes time.

FADV has 42 state online 'instant' access, but the actual records can be days/weeks/months behind depending on the state.

NCIC which pulls information from the state repositories is fairly decent, but again, its at the whim of the state's loading data on an ongoing basis. Law enforcement has the best tools, but it doesn't trickle down to the gun dealers, or people who have a need for this information.

~K

Khariz
04-19-2007, 06:48 PM
Here in Alabama, any state citizen can buy a gun at any time as long as they don't fall into any felony categories specifically excluded.

If you buy from a dealer in Alabama they do an instant background check with the little DEA hotline, and if you buy from an individual, which is legally allowed here, no background check WHATSOEVER is necessary.

Also, in Alabama, gun shows are, by law, completely unregulated. Anyone can sell any gun (not excluded by federal law) with no background check whatsoever.

Things aren't the same in every state.

If you dispute anything I said here, I will gladly site state statutes.

Fallen
04-19-2007, 06:53 PM
Do you need a gun licence to purchase a gun in a gun show?

Khariz
04-19-2007, 06:57 PM
ALabama doesn't even have gun licenses. YOu don't need a gun license for anything here.

THe only license Alabama issues is a "concealed carry permit" which is a "must issue" permit that sheriff's offices have no discretion to NOT issue if the person does not meet the statutory exclusions.

Kinda scary, eh?

I concealed carry in Alabama.

Stanley Burrell
04-19-2007, 06:57 PM
Do you need a gun licence to purchase a gun in a gun show?

No one's going to hassle legless Vets making sales on non-American, yet still American soil.

Why?

B4Hand
04-19-2007, 07:28 PM
Do you need a gun licence to purchase a gun in a gun show?

I know in Texas all you have to do is show prove of being a law enforcement official (policeman and what have you), otherwise you have to do the wait thing.

Skeeter
04-19-2007, 09:19 PM
Do you need a gun licence to purchase a gun in a gun show?

not in ohio they're considered private sellers

Sean of the Thread
04-20-2007, 08:05 AM
Do you need a gun licence to purchase a gun in a gun show?

In Florida you need to go thru the same procedure with gun show dealers as you do with any other dealer.

The rules don't apply when buying and selling with other vistors/customers (private) at the gun show. You're allowed to bring guns to sell while walking around.. either to other visitors or dealers.

Bartlett
04-20-2007, 06:27 PM
The waiting period is a state thing. There isn't one in NH. Occassionally you do end up waiting, but it is infrequent, and I am not sure what it has been based on. My white (for Stan) friend was delayed 24 hours. Never arrested, no speeding tickets, active duty military at the time. There are no FOID cards here. As I understand it, the process for that is a background check and references of your choosing. Could be wrong since I don't have one, but it is a redundant system that checks the same background info.

Drinin
04-20-2007, 10:07 PM
When I purchased my guns (I own a shotgun and two handguns) I had to wait a week from the purchase date before I could pick up the handguns. I have no clue what they were actually doing during that week, probably a background check. The shotgun I walked out with same-day. I purchased all 3 guns at the same location, over a period of 2 years.

My conceal/carry required me to take 20 hours of classes (8-6 on a saturday and sunday) and pass an accuracy and safety test. I believe it cost me about $50 for the permit. Also, something I was told by my dad (who got his conceal/carry a few months before I did): Anytime the cops want to pull me over, they have the right. Whether I've broken the law or not, if they run my plate and it shows up that I have a conceal/carry they can pull me over and search my car to make sure I'm abiding by the law. I've never actually read the conceal/carry law myself, so I can't confirm 100% if that is true. But I haven't ever been pulled over.

Drinin
04-20-2007, 10:16 PM
Funnily enough, Vermont is the 2nd safest state in the U.S. Vermont:

Vermont: State law requires gun buyers to go through a state-based criminal background check in addition to the federal NICS check

No state restriction on the sale or possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons like the AK47 and Uzi. Assault weapons are as easy to buy as hunting rifles. No restriction on the sale or possession of rapid-fire ammunition magazines that can fire up to 100 bullets without reloading.

State law allows anyone who can buy a gun to carry it loaded and concealed in public. No police permit or police notification is required to carry loaded guns hidden on a person. No training in gun laws or gun safety is required. Vermont is the only state in the country to have such a lax approach to the carrying of loaded, concealed weapons in public.

No state requirement that a Brady criminal background check be done on people buying guns at gun shows if they are sold by "private" individuals or gun "collectors." Gun shows can operate on a "no questions asked, cash-and-carry" basis

No state requirement that handgun buyers obtain a handgun license or undergo any type of safety training prior to buying a handgun.

State law forbids local city or county governments from enacting any local gun laws

State law forbids police from keeping any record of gun sales

No state requirement that gun owners register their firearms.

No state restriction on the sale of Saturday night specials or "junk" handguns.

Vermont - State law prohibits the carrying of firearms into school buildings, but there is no state restriction on carrying firearms onto school grounds or to school related events. Parents should know that loaded handguns may be legally brought onto school grounds by anyone over age 16.

No state requirement that there be a waiting period for gun sales beyond the "instant check" in federal law.

God bless Vermont, the state that got it right.

Bartlett
04-20-2007, 10:37 PM
Alaska also has an "if you can legally own it, you can legally carry it approach." I think I recently read that Maine is looking at the same thing. Unfortunately, judging by southern NH, folks from Mass have brought their crime rates and anti-gun sentiment into my state, and there is apparently a rumored attempt to change our laws for the worst.

Vermont having no regulation for gun shows, is it really a free for all? Even acting as private individuals, in NH you need to have a valid permit or be personally known to the seller for the transaction to be legal.