They really aren't even trying anymore with this hiring thing.

[Kbundy]

Log speaks for itself. I was scripting and watching the game, just wanted to see how things would go.

You hear the voice of Kyalia say, "How are you tonight Warnor"
[Script]>l

[Script aborted.]
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat (dead).
Obvious exits: east, west
>l
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat (dead).
Obvious exits: east, west
>skin rat
search rat
You skinned the giant rat.
>You search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>wear shield
You sling a reinforced shield over your shoulder.
>get pelt
put pelt in my backp
You pick up a rat pelt.
>Kyalia suddenly fades into sight beside you.
>
You put a rat pelt in your heavy backpack.
>
Kyalia taps you lightly on the shoulder.
>rem shield
You sling a reinforced shield off from over your shoulder.
>peer kya
You peer quizzically at Kyalia.
>'What?
You ask, "What?"
>l
[Abandoned Sewer]

Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: east, west
>e
[Abandoned Sewer]

Obvious exits: east, west
Kyalia followed.
>e
[Abandoned Sewer]

Obvious exits: east, west
Kyalia followed.
>e
[Abandoned Sewer]

Obvious exits: east, west
Kyalia followed.
>e
[Abandoned Sewer]

Obvious exits: east, west
Kyalia followed.
>e
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat and a giant rat.
Obvious exits: west
Kyalia followed.
>att rat
You swing a dull mithril longsword at a giant rat!
AS: +73 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +37 = +161
... and hit for 43 points of damage!
Attack punctures the eye and connects with something really vital!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>
Kyalia asks, "How are you?"
>skin rat
search rat
You skinned the giant rat.
>You search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>'I'm hunting is how I'm doing.
You say, "I'm hunting is how I'm doing."
>wear shield
You sling a reinforced shield over your shoulder.
>get pelt
You pick up a rat pelt.
>put pelt in my backp
You put a rat pelt in your heavy backpack.
>rem shield
You sling a reinforced shield off from over your shoulder.
>attack rat
You swing a dull mithril longsword at a giant rat!
AS: +73 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +30 = +154
... and hit for 28 points of damage!
Shot to the hand slices a finger to the bone!
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>l
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat (dead).
Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: west
>wear shield
...wait 1 seconds.
>wear shield
You sling a reinforced shield over your shoulder.
>skin rat
You skinned the giant rat.
>search rat
You search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>get pelt
You pick up a rat pelt.
>
Kyalia asks, "well stop for a moment so we can talk please?"
>put pelt in my backp
You put a rat pelt in your heavy backpack.
>rem shield
You sling a reinforced shield off from over your shoulder.
>'What about?
You ask, "What about?"
>
A nearby shadow seems to shift, revealing a giant rat!
>att rat
You swing a dull mithril longsword at a giant rat!
AS: +73 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +84 = +208
... and hit for 91 points of damage!
Right hip pulped, severing the leg.
The giant rat squeals loudly and falls to the ground while frantically gnawing at its wounded right hind leg.
The giant rat twitches and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>l
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat (dead).
Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: west
>
Kyalia says, "when a gamemaster approaches you its wise to stop for a moment and see what they are needing"
>skin rat
You botched the job. The rat pelt is ruined.
>search rat
You search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
l
>[Abandoned Sewer]

Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: west
>'Oh. I didn't see you were a GameMaster.
You say, "Oh. I didn't see you were a GameMaster."
>
Kyalia smiles.
>
Kyalia says, "I am"
>'Sorry. What's up?
You ask, "Sorry. What's up?"
>
Kyalia says, "We have folks reporting that you are script hunting"
>'I am.
You say, "I am."
>
Kyalia says, "and I was just wanting to see why they would think that"
>
Kyalia asks, "are you killing things that others are hunting?"
>shrug
You shrug.
>'It was alone when I walked into the room.
You say, "It was alone when I walked into the room."
>'There's plenty of rats for everyone.
You say, "There's plenty of rats for everyone."
>
A giant rat crawls over a nearby stone, a feral gleam in its eye!
>
Kyalia says, "Its fine to script hunt.. as long as you at your keyboard.. but folks are saying you dont respond to them etc"
>
Kyalia nods.
>
A giant rat tries to bite you!
AS: +5 vs DS: +52 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +69 = +55
A clean miss.
attack rat
>You swing a dull mithril longsword at a giant rat!
AS: +73 vs DS: -10 with AvD: +41 + d100 roll: +3 = +127
... and hit for 21 points of damage!
Smash to the kneecap.
The giant rat collapses to the ground, emits a final squeal, and dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>l
[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a giant rat (dead).
Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: west
>skin rat
You skinned the giant rat.
>search rat
You search the giant rat.
It had nothing of interest.
A giant rat decays into a pile of mangy hair and bone.
>'Didn't have much of a reason to.
You say, "Didn't have much of a reason to."
>shrug
l
You shrug.
>[Abandoned Sewer]
You notice a rat pelt.
Also here: GameMaster Kyalia
Obvious exits: west
>wear shield
You sling a reinforced shield over your shoulder.
>get pelt
You pick up a rat pelt.
>
Kyalia nods.
>put pelt in my backp
You put a rat pelt in your heavy backpack.
>rem shield
You sling a reinforced shield off from over your shoulder.
>
Kyalia says, "well you may want to just nod at someone or even sneer so they know someone is at least home"
>
Kyalia grins at you.
>nod
You nod.
>'Okay.
You say, "Okay."
>
Kyalia hugs you.
>
Kyalia says, "Good luck hon"
>smile kya
You smile at Kyalia.
>l kya
You see GameMaster Kyalia Tsptha the Sorcerer.
She appears to be a Sylvankind.
She appears to be young. She has pink eyes and pale skin. She has short, fluffy pink hair. She has a cute button nose and delicate white whiskers.
She is in good shape.
She is wearing a perfect red rose, a pair of floppy pink ears, a fluffy white cape lined with pink silk, a fuzzy white bunny costume adorned with yellow daisies, a leafy green sheath with a bouquet of plump carrots, a large white cotton tail, a leafy green ankle-bracelet stylized with miniature gemstone carrots, a pair of padded bunny paws, a feystone-set vert vultite shield, and a shimmering black silk prize sack.
>'Thank you.
You say, "Thank you."
>
Kyalia smiles wag
>
Kyalia waves.
>
Kyalia chuckles.
>
Kyalia smiles at you.
>wave
You wave.
>
Kyalia gestures and a shaft of scintillating light from somewhere above pierces the ceiling and engulfs her. When the light recedes Kyalia is no longer there.

[Ansherak]

Kyalia is a pretty damn good GM actually, I see nothing in what she did as wrong? You were being an annoyance to people in your enviroment and she checked in on it, so far so good no?

Though it looks like you were skirting on the edge of policy, you didnt actually break it, and you showed very little respect and she maintained a cordial demeaner.

I say she did a bang up job considering I know a few other GM's would have taken some liberal interpretations of the TOS and handled you quite differently.

To which I am sure you would have came and posted that aswell, there's no pleasing some people.

D-

[JustMe]

She is one of my favorite GM's so I may be a little bias but I think she handled that quite nicely. Had I been her I would have lightning bolted you in the head to get your attention after you ignored me. ;)

[Kbundy]

Someone yelled chase on a RAT IN THE NEXUS. Is that enough to take 5 minutes out of someone's time when they could be doing something important, like, say, fixing typos in a game that's less than a week from release?

Oh, wait, she couldn't do that because the concepts of correct grammar are beyond her.


And, I really like the label you've put on me after one post. Please, step down off your horse for a moment.

[Ansherak]

I call em as I see em, and I rather like my high horse, when I start posting garbage like that we can be on the same mule you're apparently riding.

Slagging on someone for doing what they're are required to do? I thinks I might be arguing with a jeuvenile here so I'll just let this one run off my back.

D-

[JustMe]

You come here to post about a GM and then be an ass to everyone else who believes you were doing wrong? Maybe you should get off your horse.

#1 - people don't post logs here unless they want to be commended or need someone to back them up to make them feel that they are right.

#2 - people don't get overly defensive unless they know they were wrong/being a jackass in the first place.

#3 - she should have pulled you and made you read that oh so lovely TOS (which would have taken a lot more than 5 minutes) because you were ignoring her (on purpose) and being a jackass (on purpose)

[Kbundy]

How was I being a jackass? I pay to enjoy the game, I don't pay to be lectured for NOT breaking ANY rules.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Ansherak
I call em as I see em, and I rather like my high horse, when I start posting garbage like that we can be on the same mule you're apparently riding.

Slagging on someone for doing what they're are required to do? I thinks I might be arguing with a jeuvenile here so I'll just let this one run off my back.

D-

How cowardly of you. Go right ahead, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

[JustMe]

She didn't lecture you for not breaking any rules, she didn't lecture you at all. She CHECKED to see if you WERE breaking any rules and you acted like a jackass. That is part of her job, something she is required to do. Not showing a GM respect is acting like a jackass. Shall I point out where you were being one or can you reread your log and figure it out? Surely you cannot be that dumb.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by JustMe
She didn't lecture you for not breaking any rules, she didn't lecture you at all. She CHECKED to see if you WERE breaking any rules and you acted like a jackass. That is part of her job, something she is required to do. Not showing a GM respect is acting like a jackass. Shall I point out where you were being one or can you reread your log and figure it out? Surely you cannot be that dumb.

How would you like it if at the movie theatre, attending a show that you paid for, the manager came in to 'check' and see if you took a few breaths that some other people in the theatre could've heard?

What if this manager didn't go away, and stole your attention away from the movie, which you paid for, for five minutes?

All she needed to do is do a send, ask if I was there and tell me to report with a yes or the day of the week or whatever. It isn't necessary to waste time warping to people, stalking them and pestering them incessently about a report you recieved along the line of 'um, some guy stole my rat in the nexus and i know there is 45 more within a few seconds walk of me but OMG I THINK HES SCRIPTING!'.

Or are you the kind of person that calls the police when there's too many clouds in the sky for you?

[JustMe]

One is an extreme, the other isn't.

She didn't waste much of your time, and you were being annoying to others. So yes, if the manager got a complaint about "some jackass sitting in the fourth row" I would expect him to come talk to you. If he didn't and you continued, they would lose my business.

If you stop and veiw it from the OTHER SIDE for a few minutes, maybe you'll rationalize and see that she was doing her job and she did nothing wrong. She could have just sent to you, but would you have paid attention? I'm sure if you did the first time she talked to you she wouldn't have stopped you. I'm also sure that if you would have stopped killing rats for a second and talked to her, she would have left sooner.

Before you post again, reread it and think about it from the other side.

[GS4Gurl]

Hey, dude, what is the problem? You didn't get in any trouble. She was just checking on something. Simple as that. You should be glad that the other ppl who reported you were just proven wrong. They thought you were afk script hunting. You weren't or not at that time anyways. I fail to see what your complaint is.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by JustMe
One is an extreme, the other isn't.

She didn't waste much of your time, and you were being annoying to others. So yes, if the manager got a complaint about "some jackass sitting in the fourth row" I would expect him to come talk to you. If he didn't and you continued, they would lose my business.

If you stop and veiw it from the OTHER SIDE for a few minutes, maybe you'll rationalize and see that she was doing her job and she did nothing wrong. She could have just sent to you, but would you have paid attention? I'm sure if you did the first time she talked to you she wouldn't have stopped you. I'm also sure that if you would have stopped killing rats for a second and talked to her, she would have left sooner.

Before you post again, reread it and think about it from the other side.

My character had no obligation to respond to them, and as a player, neither did I. If she would have did a send, it would have shown that she was a GM and not just another PC who had nothing better to do, and I would've responded.

If it wasn't a GM, there'd be no reason for me to respond to them. When I read that it was a GM, I did respond, and it took her five minutes to get her point across - laden with grammatical errors that I think are quite degrading for the people we're supposed to be looking up to.

By the way, hypocrite. Look at it from *my* point of view. I'm a full-time student and I work 35-45 hours a week. I can get maybe an hour of GS in on weekdays if I'm lucky, and I don't need to stop the advancement of my character (my fun) to have a mindless chitchat. She was wasting both her and my time by going to such lengths when a much more efficient way to do things was right in front of her nose. If I was her employer and saw her doing these sort of things constantly - wasting time and being inefficient, I'd seriously reconsider her position.

[HarmNone]

Perhaps, had you stopped and had a polite conversation with Kyalia, much less of your precious time would have been wasted.

Someone said "How are you?" to you and got a rude answer in return. It just happened to be a GameMaster, but it could have been just another player. Does not matter, really. There was no reason for your rude behavior, and someone who behaves as you behaved here really has no grounds upon which to base a complaint.

Kyalia treated you far more respectfully than you treated her. Kudos to her. She is a gracious lady.

HarmNone

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Perhaps, had you stopped and had a polite conversation with Kyalia, much less of your precious time would have been wasted.

Someone said "How are you?" to you and got a rude answer in return. It just happened to be a GameMaster, but it could have been just another player. Does not matter, really. There was no reason for your rude behavior, and someone who behaves as you behaved here really has no grounds upon which to base a complaint.

Kyalia treated you far more respectfully than you treated her. Kudos to her. She is a gracious lady.

HarmNone

Yes, there was reason for a rude answer. She was wasting my time. I already answered, she knew I wasn't AFK. Apparently, since that was the reason why she warped and stalked, she should've poofed after a thank you or something along those lines. Instead, she stole time from me which I'll never have back, and without reason either.

I expect to be able to pay for a game and enjoy it, as long as I am not hampering anyone elses' enjoyment. I wasn't doing that, and I was instead harassed about trying to enjoy the game that I'd like to.

How am I *still* rude? She asked how I was doing, I told her I was hunting. Question. Answer. Is that rude? Are you angry because I didn't somehow insert the words please and thank you into the answer? Should I grovel in front of a GM next time, no matter what their intentions, even if it is to just waste my time?

[Shari]

Dude, are you pms'ing this week or something?

Step back and read your posts. Whether or not they have the words "please" or "thank you", you still sound like a stuck up jerk.

You're lucky Kyalia was the one who stopped you, I've been pulled into the "Room of Bad Scripting Skills" for acting like a jerk to a GM. Not fun.

And wasting a "precious" moment of your time that you will "never be able to gain back"? Give me a fucking break. That whole conversation must have cost you 30 seconds of your time.

I mean shit, it must take you longer to just reply to these posts?

Why are you posting!?!

Quick man, hunt hunt hunt, precious time lost! <gasp>

[JustMe]

>Kyalia suddenly fades into sight beside you.

At that point you knew it was a GM, did you continue being rude? Yes. Should you have? Probably not. You seem to be one of those people who don't care about anyone elses opinons but yourself.


Kyalia asks, "well stop for a moment so we can talk please?"

At that point you should have stopped hunting but you didn't. Just be glad she's a lot nicer than the other GM's. Most of the others, Brauden comes to mind first, would have yanked you the first time you ignored them and slapped you with a warning.

[HarmNone]

I do not believe you are so dense as to not know the difference between rude behavior and polite behavior, Kbundy. If I am mistaken and you are, in fact, that dense ... well, it is not my responsibility to teach you how to behave politely. I will simply state that I am not angry. I do not waste the energy to get angry over such things.

HarmNone

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone
I do not believe you are so dense as to not know the difference between rude behavior and polite behavior, Kbundy. If I am mistaken and you are, in fact, that dense ... well, it is not my responsibility to teach you how to behave politely. I will simply state that I am not angry. I do not waste the energy to get angry over such things.

HarmNone

Please. Stop the newage Wiccan bullshit. It's really grating on me.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Jesae
Dude, are you pms'ing this week or something?

Step back and read your posts. Whether or not they have the words "please" or "thank you", you still sound like a stuck up jerk.

You're lucky Kyalia was the one who stopped you, I've been pulled into the "Room of Bad Scripting Skills" for acting like a jerk to a GM. Not fun.

And wasting a "precious" moment of your time that you will "never be able to gain back"? Give me a fucking break. That whole conversation must have cost you 30 seconds of your time.

I mean shit, it must take you longer to just reply to these posts?

Why are you posting!?!

Quick man, hunt hunt hunt, precious time lost! <gasp>

Actually, she took so long to type these things out the entire encounter was closer to 7 minutes. Too bad GS logging isn't timestamped.

I'm script hunting right now as I post, thank you. And now that she knows I was scripting, she or someone else will most likely be 'checking up' and wasting more of my time in the future, all because someone couldn't kill a rat without it running to a different room and decided to report me when I didn't respond to it.

I still fail to see how I'm a jerk when all I want is to enjoy the product that I pay for without infringing on anyone elses right to enjoy the product that they pay for, or without violating any rules. Neither the TOS nor policy states, "You have to act like a GM's bitch whenever in their presence."

[JustMe]

Dense is the least of his worries. He's an asshole as well, and one of the worst kinds, the kind that doesn't listen to anyone else and believes he is right and only him is right.

I really hope you're studying to be a lawyer. You'd fit in perfectly. ;)

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Kbundy
Please. Stop the newage Wiccan bullshit. It's really grating on me.

Please stop babbling on concerning that about which you know nothing. :)

HarmNone

[JustMe]

Originally posted by Kbundy
Neither the TOS nor policy states, "You have to act like a GM's bitch whenever in their presence."

No one said you needed to act like a bitch, but you're a complete fucking asshole at your best.

If you act even half as much of a dense asshole outside of GS, I hope you get your ass kicked often. You need it.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by JustMe

>Kyalia suddenly fades into sight beside you.

At that point you knew it was a GM, did you continue being rude? Yes. Should you have? Probably not. You seem to be one of those people who don't care about anyone elses opinons but yourself.


Kyalia asks, "well stop for a moment so we can talk please?"

At that point you should have stopped hunting but you didn't. Just be glad she's a lot nicer than the other GM's. Most of the others, Brauden comes to mind first, would have yanked you the first time you ignored them and slapped you with a warning.

I didn't see that line the first time through, I was too busy running through the rooms. And even so, it could have been a wizard uninvising or something - I wouldn't see that line and immediately drop character because an allmighty GM has entered the vicinity - something which is apparently expected.

Secondly, I stopped moving. That's what she wanted me to. I responded to her questions, and that's what she wanted me to.

Regarding Brauden, no, they wouldn't have. Despite common knowledge, roleplaying is not against policy. If my character wishes to ignore shadows talking to him while hunting in the catacombs and sewers, then he has every right to do so. When it was apparent that it was a GM that was talking to me, I dropped character and responded. There is nothing that I did that was against policy.

[Shari]

I still fail to see how I'm a jerk when all I want is to enjoy the product that I pay for without infringing on anyone elses right to enjoy the product that they pay for, or without violating any rules.

Um, aren't you infringing on someone else's rights to enjoy the game when you rush into a room they are killing a rat in, kill it, search it, and continue on your merry way?

[JustMe]

You ignored her wishes AFTER you knew she was a GM. And by the way, speaking from expierence, yes, Brauden would have slapped you with a warning and made you read TOS.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by JustMe

Originally posted by Kbundy
Neither the TOS nor policy states, "You have to act like a GM's bitch whenever in their presence."

No one said you needed to act like a bitch, but you're a complete fucking asshole at your best.

If you act even half as much of a dense asshole outside of GS, I hope you get your ass kicked often. You need it.

How mature of you.

Why don't you come kick my ass for me?

1049 Manchester Hall
Normal, IL, 61761

My masochistic side will thank you.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Jesae
I still fail to see how I'm a jerk when all I want is to enjoy the product that I pay for without infringing on anyone elses right to enjoy the product that they pay for, or without violating any rules.

Um, aren't you infringing on someone else's rights to enjoy the game when you rush into a room they are killing a rat in, kill it, search it, and continue on your merry way?

I checked the log, the room was empty when I walked in. It was impossible for it to be occupied, as I was running Kranar's rat hunting script which specifically checks for people in the room before it swings.

So no. Sorry.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Originally posted by Kbundy
Please. Stop the newage Wiccan bullshit. It's really grating on me.

Please stop babbling on concerning that about which you know nothing. :)

HarmNone

I know plenty enough. You most likely picked up some literature by Silver Ravenwolf and decided that since it was different, it was right, and started to follow it. Now, you act the perfect role of the Wiccan who thinks she's a Pagan by muttering a few words to the occasion tree, blade of grass, and Goddess.

But if I'm wrong, please tell me.

[JustMe]

That would be the address to the Dorm you live in, yet not the room. Should I just walk around looking for a guy that acts like an asshole? Probably more than one of you. Wonder if I could take you all? :lol:

[Kbundy]

Room number is 1049. Dorm is Manchester.

[JustMe]

Should I wear skirt and high-heels or jeans and boots?

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Kbundy
I still fail to see how I'm a jerk when all I want is to enjoy the product that I pay for without infringing on anyone elses right to enjoy the product that they pay for, or without violating any rules.

You took someone's rat. You did so in a very aloof manner. A la afk script hunting. If it was me, I'd do a hell of a lot more than reporting you.

You got off lightly. By your own admission, you script and don't keep an eye on the game. You act like an ass and do not get punished. If your beef was that you WANTED to be punished, that's a different discussion.

[Kbundy]

I don't think you could make it up ten flights of stairs in a pair of heels.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by Kbundy
I still fail to see how I'm a jerk when all I want is to enjoy the product that I pay for without infringing on anyone elses right to enjoy the product that they pay for, or without violating any rules.

You took someone's rat. You did so in a very aloof manner. A la afk script hunting. If it was me, I'd do a hell of a lot more than reporting you.

You got off lightly. By your own admission, you script and don't keep an eye on the game. You act like an ass and do not get punished. If your beef was that you WANTED to be punished, that's a different discussion.

With just one person in the sewers, there's 10+ rats spawning per minute. There was a rat NW of the room he was in and two more SE of it. And the rat that I killed took 18 damage without dying, so I don't see how it was his rat.

When did I say I don't keep an eye on the game?

[JustMe]

I'm a long distance runner, played basketball and softball. Dressing up every Monday, Wednesday and Friday was a must. Ten flights of stairs in heels would be a cakewalk.

Just to keep on topic, I still think she should have bolted you. :)

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by JustMe]

[Kbundy]

Not these stairs. They're about 7.5" tall and about 5" deep. But still, does that mean I should be expecting you to come kick my ass, since I deserve it so much for being so very rude to everyone?

Edit: Just to keep on topic, I think that GM's should be able to type at more than 15 words per minute to retain GM status.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by Kbundy]

[JustMe]

Are you asking me on a date? :P

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Kbundy
I know plenty enough. You most likely picked up some literature by Silver Ravenwolf and decided that since it was different, it was right, and started to follow it. Now, you act the perfect role of the Wiccan who thinks she's a Pagan by muttering a few words to the occasion tree, blade of grass, and Goddess.

But if I'm wrong, please tell me.

You have not even an inkling of how wrong you are. But then, you have shown that you have little respect for anyone; therefore, I am not surprised that you would spout opinions about someone you do not know at all. Small minds often have big mouths. :)

HarmNone

[Kbundy]

No thank you. Unless you wear the jeans. I thought we were trying to keep this on topic?

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Originally posted by Kbundy
I know plenty enough. You most likely picked up some literature by Silver Ravenwolf and decided that since it was different, it was right, and started to follow it. Now, you act the perfect role of the Wiccan who thinks she's a Pagan by muttering a few words to the occasion tree, blade of grass, and Goddess.

But if I'm wrong, please tell me.

You have not even an inkling of how wrong you are. But then, you have shown that you have little respect for anyone; therefore, I am not surprised that you would spout opinions about someone you do not know at all. Small minds often have big mouths. :)

HarmNone

I had enough respect to kindly ask you to drop the bullshit.

And I don't see you defending yourself besides calling me wrong, so I'll just let the assumptions take their natural course.

Fingers. I'm typing here.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by Kbundy]

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Kbundy
When did I say I don't keep an eye on the game?


Originally posted by Kbundy
I'm script hunting right now as I post, thank you.

Unless you can focus your eyes individually, I doubt you can watch both the game and your post at the same time. And I'm pretty sure you are watching what you post, because while I strongly disagree with what you are saying, I cannot fault your grammar (with the standards set on these boards).

Lots of other rats = irrelevant.

I walk up to a guy and say there's 10 solid gold bars hidden in the room. He finds one and someone runs in and takes it. He's going to be mad. But hey, there's more gold bars! But they're not HIS gold bar.

JustMe = force to be reckoned with

[JustMe]

Originally posted by Kbundy
No thank you. Unless you wear the jeans. I thought we were trying to keep this on topic?

Good, because I'm not really a skirt kind of girl.

To keep on topic the GM is really nice, just sad you had to have a bad interaction with her. If you've interacted with many alterers I'm sure you've seen her as one.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by Kbundy
When did I say I don't keep an eye on the game?


Originally posted by Kbundy
I'm script hunting right now as I post, thank you.

Unless you can focus your eyes individually, I doubt you can watch both the game and your post at the same time. And I'm pretty sure you are watching what you post, because while I strongly disagree with what you are saying, I cannot fault your grammar (with the standards set on these boards).

Lots of other rats = irrelevant.

I walk up to a guy and say there's 10 solid gold bars hidden in the room. He finds one and someone runs in and takes it. He's going to be mad. But hey, there's more gold bars! But they're not HIS gold bar.

JustMe = force to be reckoned with

I have the browser taking up 60% of the top portion of the desktop. I have the game taking up the rest of the bottom of the desktop. I turned combat numbers off and no room descripts on. I can do both at the same time, despite how inept you may think I am.

I think you might have a valid point with that vague example, but I don't think that losing one potential rat was worth having to waste my time with a GM 'lecture' or 'chit-chat'. Not in the least.

edit: First paragraph was unclear. It's getting late.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by Kbundy]

[Latrinsorm]

I wasn't trying to imply that I thought you were inept, I was merely trying to point out that while the human eye is an impressive organ, it can only focus on one thing at a time. You can use your peripheral vision to sense motion, but it's very difficult to read using only peripheral vision, especially when your target is moving as things are wont to do in GS.

If you the player are rude to people, they will not be happy. After interacting with you, they are likely to send an unhappy report the GM's's way. While you feel you were not in the wrong, the intersubjective definition currently in place in Gemstone says you in fact were wrong. The GM's are the enforcers in this area. If you do not want to interact with them and their slow typing (which seems to be one of your principal concerns), you the player would be better off making your character say something, or sneer, or something along the lines of what the GM's recommended.

You pay for the game. Great. Lifeboat analogy: Just because it's your seat doesn't mean I'm not going to stop you from drilling holes in it. I feel like that guy from FLCL.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Kbundy
I had enough respect to kindly ask you to drop the bullshit.

And I don't see you defending yourself besides calling me wrong, so I'll just let the assumptions take their natural course.

Fingers. I'm typing here.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by Kbundy]

Bullshit? Where? Defend myself? For what and to whom?

By all means, let the assumptions do what they do best.

HarmNone

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Originally posted by Kbundy
I had enough respect to kindly ask you to drop the bullshit.

And I don't see you defending yourself besides calling me wrong, so I'll just let the assumptions take their natural course.

Fingers. I'm typing here.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by Kbundy]

Bullshit? Where? Defend myself? For what and to whom?

By all means, let the assumptions do what they do best.

HarmNone

The Wiccan act. That bullshit. You don't *have* to defend yourself, but I would most likely. However, I usually welcome conflict, and under the facade that most Wiccans (like yourself) put out, conflict is bad and always avoidable., so I really don't expect you to.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
I wasn't trying to imply that I thought you were inept, I was merely trying to point out that while the human eye is an impressive organ, it can only focus on one thing at a time. You can use your peripheral vision to sense motion, but it's very difficult to read using only peripheral vision, especially when your target is moving as things are wont to do in GS.

If you the player are rude to people, they will not be happy. After interacting with you, they are likely to send an unhappy report the GM's's way. While you feel you were not in the wrong, the intersubjective definition currently in place in Gemstone says you in fact were wrong. The GM's are the enforcers in this area. If you do not want to interact with them and their slow typing (which seems to be one of your principal concerns), you the player would be better off making your character say something, or sneer, or something along the lines of what the GM's recommended.

You pay for the game. Great. Lifeboat analogy: Just because it's your seat doesn't mean I'm not going to stop you from drilling holes in it. I feel like that guy from FLCL.

The human eye may not be able to focus on two things at once, but periphial vision can notice patterns and deviations from patterns. If I just see..

[The Catacombs, Sewer]
>att rat
You swing a dull mithril longsword at a giant rat!

(or, in perphial, a block of grey looking like this)

[Xxx Xxxxxxxx, Xxxxx]
>xxx xxx
Xxx xxxxxx x xxx xxxxxx xxxxxxxx xx x xxxxx xxxx

...rat dies, etc..

I'm definately going to be able to notice the deviation from that pattern when I see if someone nudges or pokes me.. because there's about nothing of the same length, and besides for the rat trying to bite me, no other actions directed at me.

Also, 'soandso says, "' is neon green on black, which is extremely easy to say and I'd notice right away, even if I was in the middle of typing.

I'm not poking holes. At worst, I might be fidgeting with a blunted plastic knife.

I never watched FLCL.. I couldn't stand that opening theme. Give me Tank! anyday.

[Latrinsorm]

Yeah, I turned all those bizarro colors off. It's a text-based game, not an Atari.. uh.. thing...

Does FLCL even have an opening theme? On Adult Swim, they just have that Star thing and then on with the show. Trigun's open whips all hell out of Tank!

To me, running a script without being right there watching with my undivided attention it is just Naughty. <shrug> Besides, shouldn't you be in nymphs or something? Rats are lame.

[JustMe]

Nymphs take too long to spawn.

[Kbundy]

Heh, it helps break some of the monotony, that's all I can ask of highlight strings.

It does, it's called.. hmm, Ride on a Shooting Star, and it opens with guitar strumming and stuff.

I should be, but I'm trying to see how good Kranar's scripts work to get to 20. I'll move to urghs in another level or three.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Kbundy
The Wiccan act. That bullshit. You don't *have* to defend yourself, but I would most likely. However, I usually welcome conflict, and under the facade that most Wiccans (like yourself) put out, conflict is bad and always avoidable., so I really don't expect you to.

Therin lies the folly of assumption.

I am not Wiccan, nor am I neo-Pagan. I do not find conflict displeasing at all. In fact, I find it most invigorating if the opponent is able to come to a battle of the wits fully armed. Otherwise, it is simply boring.:rolleyes:

HarmNone is bored

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Originally posted by Kbundy
The Wiccan act. That bullshit. You don't *have* to defend yourself, but I would most likely. However, I usually welcome conflict, and under the facade that most Wiccans (like yourself) put out, conflict is bad and always avoidable., so I really don't expect you to.

In fact, I find it most invigorating if the opponent is able to come to a battle of the wits fully armed. Otherwise, it is simply boring.:rolleyes:

HarmNone is bored

Like you have, armed with your :rolleyes: smiley?

[Weedmage Princess]

Kyalia is one of the better GMs around. As an alterer/merchant, she is friendly and takes the time to make sure each person is happy with whatever item they have when she's finished with it, and as a GM, she's also kind and helpful, taking the time to fufil her duties and offer whatever assistance she can.

As far as why you didn't get a [SEND] ...there are scripts that look for that string, and respond to it. Maybe she knew about it? I don't know...I know about it, though..so if I were a GM, I probably wouldn't just do a [SEND] and leave it at that.

Kyalia and her merchants are highly interactive..she likes to get out there and get involved with the players. She's a lot of fun, actually. I rather have a game full of GMs like Kyalia and others who honestly do give a shit about what's going on..even if they don't "type fast enough" for your liking :rolleyes: I can see how GMs like that are probably not your cup of tea though, as I get the feeling you're more of a loner..and seemingly hostile...and pretty damn rude. It takes all kinds though.

You know though, you could have gotten one of the asshole GMs..like Krylan (if he's still around) ...there would have been little to no interaction, guaranteed. You probably would have liked that. Of course, he'd have locked you out, but..hey, no interaction!!! He probably types fast too..hmm.

[Kbundy]

The send could have asked for a specific bit of information, like the time, the day of the week, some current sort of news, or asked me to repeat what she was saying.. like purple monkey dishwasher, or something along those lines.

And I couldn't have been locked out. Clean account. First warning is just a warning.

[Vesi]

You posted the log. You didn't hear what you wanted to hear in the responses. So, you start striking out at the posters personally.

Real mature.

Oh yeah... your actions in the log were wrong.

Vesi

[Weedmage Princess]

Alright..well then you could (and more than likely WOULD have if it were Krylan) have got a warning, then...or some sort of penalty that you might have not deserved. And I can just about guarantee had you pulled that stint with Maghegh, (sp?) you would have found yourself in the lounge flipping through all the pages of POLICY at the very least..heh.

My point was...there are a lot of GMs with itchy trigger fingers...you got someone who wasn't like that. Someone who respects the game and it's players. You should be grateful. I know you'll probably argue that they're [GMs} SUPPOSED to be that way, but what should be and what actually IS are two very different things.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Vesi
You posted the log. You didn't hear what you wanted to hear in the responses. So, you start striking out at the posters personally.

Real mature.

Oh yeah... your actions in the log were wrong.

Vesi

You're going to be number four tonight. Do you feel lucky, punk?

[Overlord]

*Laughs at the pathetic fool* Whining about such a small incident is laughable..quite obviously
Lets all gripe about minuscule events that really effect nothing in particular and no one gives a damn about!! *smirks*

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Weedmage Princess
Alright..well then you could (and more than likely WOULD have if it were Krylan) have got a warning, then...or some sort of penalty that you might have not deserved. And I can just about guarantee had you pulled that stint with Maghegh, (sp?) you would have found yourself in the lounge flipping through all the pages of POLICY at the very least..heh.

My point was...there are a lot of GMs with itchy trigger fingers...you got someone who wasn't like that. Someone who respects the game and it's players. You should be grateful. I know you'll probably argue that they're [GMs} SUPPOSED to be that way, but what should be and what actually IS are two very different things.

So, I'm supposed to feel honored to have a GM act as the guidelines for their behaviors state? Do you feel a twinge of pride when someone at McDonalds gives you food in exchange for currency? Or when you hit the letter 'a' on the keyboard, the corresponding letter 'a' appears on the screen in front of you?

*shrugs* It just seems outrageous to me to praise a GM for acting as they're supposed to.

[Weedmage Princess]

Uh..HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING GEMSTONE???

[Kbundy]

2 years before the move to the web.

[Weedmage Princess]

If that's true, I have a hard time understanding why you'd make a comment like your last one...

Anyway, hopefully you won't have to deal with some of the ...ah.."less than friendly, less than caring" GMs. Cause when you find yourself getting pulled, warned, etc. etc. for no justifiable reason...you'll come to appreciate the better GMs...and you won't cry over having to interact with someone for a few minutes.

Or maybe you will, who knows? People are weird.

[Caramia]

At one time, they had published a news item that addressed that the rudeness and disrespectful attitude of some players could have consequences.

Unlike McDonald's where the person at the counter is handing you an order of preprepared foods often warmed up by someone else, in GS you play by the company's rules, in an area created often by the same staff that interacts with you when there are policy issues involved.

[theotherjohn]

Originally posted by JustMe

>Kyalia suddenly fades into sight beside you.


Kyalia asks, "well stop for a moment so we can talk please?"



I also ignore GMs and Hosts. They are OOC and should not be allowed into the game.

If they wish to communicate, they have send or can pull the character.

[AnticorRifling]

You did nothing wrong. She did nothing wrong. Drop it and find something real to bitch about.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by theotherjohn
I also ignore GMs and Hosts. They are OOC and should not be allowed into the game.

If they wish to communicate, they have send or can pull the character.

While I might agree with you in principle, the fact is that Simutronics produces the game you play, and Simutronics' Production Management takes the stand that the GMs are intrinsically OOC. The GMs are doing what they are told to do by those who employ them, and it is those employers who decide what they "should be allowed" to do.

HarmNone

[Skirmisher]

Gods almighty,
I fail to see how you have as much as an inch of room to complain.

Five minutes out of your busy schedule for her to confirm in a rather less than unpleasant manner that you were not breaking tos. Thats by your own description. And you get all nasty?

How would the place be worse off with you gone?

Please take your 20 dollars a month and spend it where you are more happily rewarded and stop whining here.

And you'd be best off bitching to anyone else here than Harmnone, cause there you are just out of your league.

Have a splendiferous day. Hopefully elsewhere.

[Sean]

remind me not to pick on skirmisher today

[Adhara]

If you script hunt, even at the keyboard, you have to expect that someone will someday check on you. Will it be irritating? Probably. Do you gain anything from being rude to them? Well, you might gain a couple extra surprise visits if anything.

Kyalia is a sweetie. She did nothing wrong and you should be grateful it was her that came to you.

You're upset, if I understand correctly, about the way this checking was done. Your reason is that you do not wish to waste precious scripting time. Do you refrain from going to the bathroom or getting a bite to eat as to not waste 5 minutes of precious scripting time? Or do you just break policy?

You know you acted like a jackass. You were hoping posters would back you up. The log backfired on you like it did on so many before you. If you were open-minded enough to agree that perhaps, just perhaps you were a bit rude, then you would gain a bit of the sympathy you came looking for.

[Caiylania]

It's called doing her job. Grow up.

[LordSagan]

I agree, she was doing her job. The only problem I see here is a problem I see with many GM's. They feel that they are entitled to your respect. The one line she says which states

"Kyalia says, "when a gamemaster approaches you its wise to stop for a moment and see what they are needing" "

If a player is playing the game, and they are not violating policy (as has already been established, he was not AFK) then they are not required to respond to you in any way. In fact, if a player is not violating policy....it's well within their rights for them to say (politely) Please leave me alone. However, most GM's will get their panties in a bunch if you do this to them.

If a GM spawns mobs on you with the specific intent to kill you after you tell them to leave you alone, then they are flat out disrupting your gameplay and enjoyment of a game which you are paying to play. They should be reprimanded. Sadly, they are applauded instead. This is one of my biggest problems with Simu, and their lack of Customer Service in this regard.

And, sadly, many players have been treated this way for so long...they actually defend the GM's when they do it. It's so ingrained into them that this is how it is done, that this is what they expect and they make excuses for it when it happens. That is the worst, and saddest, part of it all.

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by LordSagan]

Heh I have had Gms wait till i was in the middle of a hunt to strike The Edine down with a lightning bold...
Granted it was amusing but they will get ya back if they want to

[Skirmisher]

Yeah, spit in wind. Always a smart move.

Fight the power and all that!

[Soulpieced]

I'd give a smart ass remark to the GM too. And likely ignore the stupid lord who's trying to see if I'm AFK scripting. Lousy peons.

[AnticorRifling]

I agree with Sagan on this one. Earn my respect don't expect it.

[Quitter]

I agree with that massies

Still, i would be pissed too, damn abuse of power

[Quitter]

LEAVE THE SO FEW PLAYERS THAT STILL PLAY THAT "..." GAME ALONE

But i agree with the lady, she was "nice"...

[Wezas]

I agree with both sides to some extent. The GM wanted to check to see if you were scripting. Should she have just used a send? Perhaps. Should she have whispered? Would have kept it IC. Were you a bit harsh on her (not in game, but here)? I think so.

I've only had one or two encounteres with a GM.

One time a GM had a sign on their back that said "kick me". So I did. And I was given a poison that was about 10x worse then a scarab. Died instantly, losing all the spells I just had cast on me. She freaked out, raised me, and appologized profusely (I think gave me some kind of exp reward as an appology).

If anyone has any good (meaning evil) interactions with GMs, either post them in a new thread.

[Shari]

I checked the log, the room was empty when I walked in. It was impossible for it to be occupied, as I was running Kranar's rat hunting script which specifically checks for people in the room before it swings.

I run the same script myself. Thing is, say OtherAdventurer is in one room hunting a rat and it runs east..and you are in the room next to that and then run west, see the rat, and kill it as soon as OtherAdventurer runs in before they can say "chase", people tend to get irked. (Who knows why, I agree..there are plenty of rats.) Perhaps OtherAdventurer tried starting up a conversation and you simply ignored them? (because that's what you've said you've been doing down in the sewers, hence the point of this entire thread)

Most people who are ignored down in the sewers would automatically assume that you were script hunting afk. They get pissed, and report.

However, this isn't even the point. You're pissed because a GM was trying to do their job. All this over a RAT.

And 7 minutes you say? You're lucky she didn't pull you out of the entirely and slap you around.

I would have.

The great thing about this is...you're so pissed off about this you're going to CONTINUE to bitch about this and fight everyone on it. Hehe, it's so funny. I can't wait to check this thread again to see what you gets your panties in a bunch next time.

[Warriorbird]

Lucky you ran into Kyalia.

[Overlord]

Its just a rat though, what bugged me when i was younger.. there was this guy in wraiths.. i forget his name Griffon or some kind of offshoot, anyway he'd just script there for hours on end in the first room you enter (from the crypt in the GY) and i mean come on wraiths barely spawn as it is... So what ever after hours of this tediousness a few friends of mine decided it would be a good idea to kill him. lol And he subsequently decayed.

I don't mind people running hunting scripts, hell wrote a few myself, but i'm always at my keyboard during the process. But i mean come on one rat, little folk that complain about a rat being killed when all it takes is one swing to annihilate the little fiends.. have got to take it easy.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by LordSagan
I agree, she was doing her job. The only problem I see here is a problem I see with many GM's. They feel that they are entitled to your respect. The one line she says which states

"Kyalia says, "when a gamemaster approaches you its wise to stop for a moment and see what they are needing" "
[Edited on 11-19-2003 by LordSagan]

Here, I agree with Sagan. This statement is the only thing I found somewhat questionable from the player's perspective. It is never a good idea to give in to the tendency to arrogance based on one's position, no matter how miffed one might become. If one makes that mistake, one risks inflaming the situation further.

HarmNone

[Drew2]

LOOK WHAT YOU DID, KBUNDY.

Dateline 11/19/2003: MUTUAL RESPECT

The majority of our customers are extremely courteous and we are greatly appreciative of your help in doing our jobs more effectively. However, we've noticed a certain segment of our customers being particularly discourteous during assists and other standard customer service interactions. In order to curb this, we're asking that people bear in mind that staff members are due the same level of respect that you, yourself, expect. This means, quite specifically, that directly swearing at or insulting a GameMaster, GameHost or Board Monitor publicly, or in private consultation, may result in punitive action. Staff members are expected to maintain those same standards of mutual respect in their customer interactions.

While we understand that certain events in the game may affect you negatively and can impact your interactions with other players or the staff, we do expect players to maintain a certain level of civility in their discussions of a problem. We don't expect this to be an issue with the general population of Gemstone III in their normal course of interactions.

If you have any questions or require clarifications regarding this policy, please feel free to express your constructive comments or concerns to gsfeedback@simutronics.com with a subject line of RESPECT.

We hope this change will help to make our interactions a more positive experience for all involved.

END NEWS ITEM

[HarmNone]

I can only imagine the crock of defecation GMs have to put up with in-game on a daily basis. There will always be those who must disrupt, and those who must fluff their feathers in the face of authority.

As players, we encounter other players whose sole purpose in life seems to be antagonizing other players. If the antagonism becomes unbearable to us, we can simply type "exit" and find something else to do. The GMs cannot. It is their job to try to defuse ugly situations, monitor the game for policy violations, and intercede when asked to do so by concerned players. It is not an easy job, I would not think.

In the case of this particular incident, it would probably have been my choice (were I a GM) to have a particularly ferocious rat stand up on its hind legs and threaten mayhem followed by dismemberment to get the attention of the player who had been reported for scripting. Perhaps I could have sent a herd of cockroaches, or a team of mischievous mice, to test the player's responsiveness. For me, this would have been a less OOC way of determining the existance of a problem with scripting. However, Kyalia chose to confront it directly, in her capacity as a GM. This is acceptable to Simutronics as a way for staff to communicate with players.

I have always thought that it would be better to have these encounters maintain a more en-genre mood. If real trouble is expected, one could pull the player out of the game to discuss the problem rather than confront in an OOC manner (Talk about something that will cost you precious time! That is certainly it!). However, what I think is not necessarily going to be what Simutronics management considers best. Since it is their game, whether I pay to play or not, it is their rules with which I must comply. Such is the way of the world.

HarmNone

*edit to correct my soul*

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by HarmNone]

[Soulpieced]

All of my scripts will check the rooms if there is anyone else in it, and if there is it will keep moving. It's very simple scripting procedure, and other people shouldn't give a damn whether you're scripting or not. I script all the time and really am never truly "afk" for more than 5 minutes at a time.

[SpunGirl]

What a lame complaint. She was doing her job. You should know that just because you can come on these boards and post whatever you want, people are not always going to agree with you. Live with it.

-K

[Overlord]

I am with you on that soulpieced, but then again some folk can' script as well as us. But as i said, its the folk that leave scripts running for hours without supervision that irritate me.

[HarmNone]

Personally, although I chose not to script and not to report others because I suspected they might be AFK scripting, I see no problem with scripting as long as the player is not AFK. The problem with AFK scripting is...well, it is out of policy.

If a player Reports another player for AFK scripting, it is the responsibility of the GMs to determine if policy is being broken. I would be willing to bet that, if asked, the vast majority of GMs would tell you that they would rather be dragged through hell naked than have to bother with it, but it is required of them to do so.

HarmNone

[Vesi]

Originally posted by Kbundy

Originally posted by Vesi
You posted the log. You didn't hear what you wanted to hear in the responses. So, you start striking out at the posters personally.

Real mature.

Oh yeah... your actions in the log were wrong.

Vesi

You're going to be number four tonight. Do you feel lucky, punk?

Sure. ::laughs:: Oh, it's punkette by the way.

Vesi

[HarmNone]

::HarmNone raises a glass of Bailey's to the "punkette"::
:lol:

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Tayre
LOOK WHAT YOU DID, KBUNDY.

Dateline 11/19/2003: MUTUAL RESPECT

The majority of our customers are extremely courteous and we are greatly appreciative of your help in doing our jobs more effectively. However, we've noticed a certain segment of our customers being particularly discourteous during assists and other standard customer service interactions. In order to curb this, we're asking that people bear in mind that staff members are due the same level of respect that you, yourself, expect. This means, quite specifically, that directly swearing at or insulting a GameMaster, GameHost or Board Monitor publicly, or in private consultation, may result in punitive action. Staff members are expected to maintain those same standards of mutual respect in their customer interactions.

While we understand that certain events in the game may affect you negatively and can impact your interactions with other players or the staff, we do expect players to maintain a certain level of civility in their discussions of a problem. We don't expect this to be an issue with the general population of Gemstone III in their normal course of interactions.

If you have any questions or require clarifications regarding this policy, please feel free to express your constructive comments or concerns to gsfeedback@simutronics.com with a subject line of RESPECT.

We hope this change will help to make our interactions a more positive experience for all involved.

END NEWS ITEM

[The Nexus]
A bunch of pipes. Big freaking deal.
You also see: a giant rat, a giant rat.
>[Script]kill rat
You swing a broadsword at a giant rat!
...and hit for 300 points of damage!
The giant rat dies.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>[Script]skin rat
You botched the job. The rat pelt is ruined.
>[Script]
Gamemasterman just arrived.
>[Script]kill rat
You swing a broadsword at a giant rat!
... and miss!
You are teh suck.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
>[Script]
Gamemasterman says, "Hello there."
>[Script]'Piss off!
You exclaim, "Piss off!"
>[Script]swear Gamemasterman
You offer a seething account of Gamemasterman's usefulness that is more spittle than speech.
>[Script]skin rat
You botched the job. The rat pelt is ruined.
>[Script]
Gamemasterman squints.
>[Script]
Your head explodes! Damn! Who saw that coming?

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You realize that you have no outstanding favors which Lorminstra owes you, and without having accomplished a deed for Her, your soul is in danger of vanishing from the land forever!

...departing in 14 seconds... ha ha ha...
>[Script]kill rat
You are a ghost! With no head! Sucks to be you!
>[Script aborted!]
>'you just deeded me you sux0r!
You exclaim, "You just deeded me you sux0r!"
>
Gamemasterman says to you, "You, sir, are a foul-mouthed, headless punk-ass!"
>
Gamemasterman smiles as he desecrates your corpse.
>
Gamemasterman smiles as he desecrates your corpse.
>
Gamemasterman smiles as he desecrates your corpse.
>
Gamemasterman just went east.
>

True story.

[Quitter]

that doesn't surprise me at all, really

[Kurili]

I am amused. That was funny.

Acolyte Kurili

[HarmNone]

::lol:: Too funny!

HarmNone figures that one was deserved

[StrayRogue]

You are an idiot. Nuff said.

[Latrinsorm]

Guys... you realize that didn't actually happen, right? I mean come on. Gamemasterman? Gamemasterman? I am glad you found it amusing though. Took me 8 hours to write that.

Oh yeah, and I did report him for abusing the smile command.... but it didn't really happen. Honest. :D

[HarmNone]

One thing I find intriguing, and that has not been mentioned here...

Is it not Kbundy who is offering patches to get around the script timer problem in the new Wizard? If one is at the keyboard while scripting, why would one need a workaround for the script timer?

HarmNone did not script, so really does not know :)

[Xcalibur]

because people are hypocrite and DO afk scripting
it's worth the risk

latrin: i think no one think it was real, at least i think it wasn't

[Edited on 19-11-03 by Xcalibur]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Personally I don't see that either one of you did anything wrong. She did her job, you answered once you realized she was a GM.

All in all, I'd say it was a good interaction, nothing to complain about. She was just doing her job, after folks reported you. Nothing wrong at all there.

[Vesi]

Originally posted by HarmNone
::HarmNone raises a glass of Bailey's to the "punkette"::
:lol:

I'll see your Bailey's and raise you an Arrogant Bastard Ale!

Vesi

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Heh, thats a GREAT beer

[Vesi]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Heh, thats a GREAT beer

Yep. Love it.

Vesi who is worthy <snicker>

[HarmNone]

It is also a very aptly named beer for mention in this dumb thread! :D

HarmNone likes it.........wheeee!

[Vesi]

Originally posted by HarmNone
It is also a very aptly named beer for mention in this dumb thread! :D

HarmNone likes it.........wheeee!

Hey... knew you'd catch that.<grin>

Vesi on topic

[Morbid Fascination]

Originally posted by Kbundy
Edit: Just to keep on topic, I think that GM's should be able to type at more than 15 words per minute to retain GM status.


I just had to comment on this little bit. Kyalia runs some of the best and hardest-working merchants in the game. I'm pretty sure she can type.

And just to keep on topic, I don't see anything about that exchange worth five pages of posts. Looks pretty cut and dried to me. I must say, though, if you have suggestions instead of just criticism, you may want to take them to the official boards. Not much gonna get done about it here.

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Morbid Fascination
I just had to comment on this little bit. Kyalia runs some of the best and hardest-working merchants in the game. I'm pretty sure she can type.

And just to keep on topic, I don't see anything about that exchange worth five pages of posts. Looks pretty cut and dried to me. I must say, though, if you have suggestions instead of just criticism, you may want to take them to the official boards. Not much gonna get done about it here.

Heh. Yeah. I figure Kyalia is probably a more than efficient typist. ;)

Hopefully, Kbundy has learned that just because he thinks he has been harassed by a GM who was just doing her job, everyone here is not necessarily going to agree with him, and even if we did it would not count for a hill of beans.

HarmNone raises a stein of Arrogant Bastard beer to all readers and posters. Enjoy! :D

*Edited to make use of Vesi's truly on-topic beer*

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by HarmNone]

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Arrogant Bastard ALE, beer is for little children.

[HarmNone]

Oh, dear. I do most humbly apologize. Not being a beer drinker (or an ale drinker, for that matter), it seems I have put my foot in my stein. :D

HarmNone is not an ale adept.....obviously

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone
One thing I find intriguing, and that has not been mentioned here...

Is it not Kbundy who is offering patches to get around the script timer problem in the new Wizard? If one is at the keyboard while scripting, why would one need a workaround for the script timer?

HarmNone did not script, so really does not know :)

Because, scripts can be a lot more intelligent if you don't have to keep restarting them every 2 minutes. And they won't be sixty pages long for a simple rat hunt scripting.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

[Caramia]

Sounds to me like you were doing something (or the script was) that got people thinking you were AFK scripting, and then you got pissed that a GM actually bothered to check on it... unlike all the other times people claim GMs do nothing.

[Atlanteax]

Kylia is an absolutely incredible GM.

She does tremendous Merchanting work for PCs as a CS GM.

.

She obviously handled this situation with the same tremendous patience and easy-going-ness that she normally does when Merchanting.

Also cut you a heck a lot of slack despite your arrogant rudeness.

.

It's Twits like you who only detract from the Gemstone Experience.

In fact, I'm quite amused that you'd post, and then would be dismayed when others are also telling you what a Moron you are.

~ Atlanteax

[SpunGirl]

Rah, J!

-K

[HarmNone]

Originally posted by Kbundy
Because, scripts can be a lot more intelligent if you don't have to keep restarting them every 2 minutes. And they won't be sixty pages long for a simple rat hunt scripting.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

I see. Another question, then?

How does adding a script timer shorten the required length of a script?

HarmNone, the scripting challenged ;)

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone

Originally posted by Kbundy
Because, scripts can be a lot more intelligent if you don't have to keep restarting them every 2 minutes. And they won't be sixty pages long for a simple rat hunt scripting.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

I see. Another question, then?

How does adding a script timer shorten the required length of a script?

HarmNone, the scripting challenged ;)

If a script were to be timed out in the middle of doing something, say, walking back to town, you'd have to put in checks for every single room on the way back, or at least another equally complicated system.

Or, if the script timed out in the middle of swinging at something, you wouldn't know, when it was restarted, if you killed it, you walked into the room with it dead, someone else killed it and walked away, or someone's in this room ambushing.

A script without a timer on it, you don't have to worry about the implications of restarting it, like doing room/creature/health/position checks every two minutes. And it'd be a lot less likely to disturb other people hunting in the area.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by Atlanteax
Kylia is an absolutely incredible GM.

She does tremendous Merchanting work for PCs as a CS GM.

.

She obviously handled this situation with the same tremendous patience and easy-going-ness that she normally does when Merchanting.

Also cut you a heck a lot of slack despite your arrogant rudeness.

.

It's Twits like you who only detract from the Gemstone Experience.

In fact, I'm quite amused that you'd post, and then would be dismayed when others are also telling you what a Moron you are.

~ Atlanteax

I find it quite amusing that you don't have the sixth grade grammar skills to know not to handle the first letters of moron and twit in the middle of a sentence.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

[Adhara]

The script timer is indeed a nuisance even for those who do use scripts within the acceptable boundaries.

Removing it means much better scripts (read: more efficient for the scripter and more reliable for surrounding players) with much less writing.

In this, I agree with kbundy.

[HarmNone]

Thanks, Kbundy, for the information on scripting and the script timer. I am not "up" on such things, so this is new information for me. :)

HarmNone is learning something new

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Kbundy

Originally posted by Atlanteax
Kylia is an absolutely incredible GM.

She does tremendous Merchanting work for PCs as a CS GM.

.

She obviously handled this situation with the same tremendous patience and easy-going-ness that she normally does when Merchanting.

Also cut you a heck a lot of slack despite your arrogant rudeness.

.

It's Twits like you who only detract from the Gemstone Experience.

In fact, I'm quite amused that you'd post, and then would be dismayed when others are also telling you what a Moron you are.

~ Atlanteax

I find it quite amusing that you don't have the sixth grade grammar skills to know not to handle the first letters of moron and twit in the middle of a sentence.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

::snicker::

Not too quick on the uptake, are you? You are a Twit with a capital T and a Moron with a capital M. If you couldn't gather that, who's the idiot here?

-K:lol:

[Izalude]

Kyalia is very sincere when it comes to her dealings with people. If she has a problem, she will come straight out with it and go right to the point. She works hours and hours on end as merchants such as Sukara, Elvaria, Bindi, Melli, and a bunch others... All of my dealings with her, in her Merchant and GM forms have been nothing but positive. She's one of the few GM's that I've interacted with that really show the players that she goes the extra mile for all of us. When the whole billing fiasco happened with Simu, I believe she posted in favor of the Players on the official boards, if I'm not mistaken. GM's like her are a rare breed.

I'm not going to resort to flaming, or calling you an idiot or anything like that, but I think you really should lighten up a bit. You really shouldn't have been rude in the first place.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by SpunGirl

Originally posted by Kbundy

Originally posted by Atlanteax
Kylia is an absolutely incredible GM.

She does tremendous Merchanting work for PCs as a CS GM.

.

She obviously handled this situation with the same tremendous patience and easy-going-ness that she normally does when Merchanting.

Also cut you a heck a lot of slack despite your arrogant rudeness.

.

It's Twits like you who only detract from the Gemstone Experience.

In fact, I'm quite amused that you'd post, and then would be dismayed when others are also telling you what a Moron you are.

~ Atlanteax

I find it quite amusing that you don't have the sixth grade grammar skills to know not to handle the first letters of moron and twit in the middle of a sentence.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

::snicker::

Not too quick on the uptake, are you? You are a Twit with a capital T and a Moron with a capital M. If you couldn't gather that, who's the idiot here?

-K:lol:

I'm going to do you a favor and not pick apart your other posts. Because you sound like a cheerleader with verbal dyslexia, truthfully.

[Kbundy]

Originally posted by HarmNone
Thanks, Kbundy, for the information on scripting and the script timer. I am not "up" on such things, so this is new information for me. :)

HarmNone is learning something new

You're welcome.

[Red Devil]

Originally posted by Tijay
remind me not to pick on skirmisher today
why do you have osama avatar? not cool mon!

[SpunGirl]

Originally posted by Kbundy

Originally posted by SpunGirl

Originally posted by Kbundy

Originally posted by Atlanteax
Kylia is an absolutely incredible GM.

She does tremendous Merchanting work for PCs as a CS GM.

.

She obviously handled this situation with the same tremendous patience and easy-going-ness that she normally does when Merchanting.

Also cut you a heck a lot of slack despite your arrogant rudeness.

.

It's Twits like you who only detract from the Gemstone Experience.

In fact, I'm quite amused that you'd post, and then would be dismayed when others are also telling you what a Moron you are.

~ Atlanteax

I find it quite amusing that you don't have the sixth grade grammar skills to know not to handle the first letters of moron and twit in the middle of a sentence.

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by Kbundy]

::snicker::

Not too quick on the uptake, are you? You are a Twit with a capital T and a Moron with a capital M. If you couldn't gather that, who's the idiot here?

-K:lol:

I'm going to do you a favor and not pick apart your other posts. Because you sound like a cheerleader with verbal dyslexia, truthfully.

Rah, rah!

You should suck it up and deal, pal. You came, you posted, and I can't say I've seen one person even slightly sympathetic to your angst. So because people are telling you to sod off, you think it's best to just insult them on a personal level instead? How brilliant of you.

Go Team Go.

-K

[HarmNone]

Not to be off-topic, or anything (Topic? What topic?), but I still get a chuckle everytime I read your sig, SpunGirl! :lol:

HarmNone

[Shalla]

Kyalia is the best. She was very courteous and one of the GM's that I admire and show excellent customer service.