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Stretch
04-26-2008, 10:46 PM
Experience: 12000014

Sylvan Dreams
04-27-2008, 12:28 AM
Experience: 13003096

TheWitch
04-30-2008, 02:22 PM
Perception.........................| 201 101 101

And on to PT.
I think.

Danical
05-02-2008, 02:23 PM
In roughly one week, my training plan will be as follows . . .

As soon as I'm done migrating some points this will be my training plan.

Armor Use..........................| 190 90 90
Shield Use.........................| 302 202 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101 101
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202 202
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25 25
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202
Dodging............................| 93 21 21
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20 20
Harness Power......................| 200 100 100
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 176 101 101
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 201 101 101
Survival...........................| 201 101 101
Perception.........................| 202 101 101
Climbing...........................| 140 40 40
Swimming...........................| 201 101 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101 101
Trading............................| 292 192 192

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 127 127

__________________________________________________ ___

1x Dodge @ 1.2m exp

or

2x HP @ ~1.7m exp

I'm leaning toward dodge. I'll be getting pretty wicked DS returns with a small sized shield. Any thoughts?

holocene
05-06-2008, 08:05 AM
Dodging............................| 403 303 303

Finally!

Now the warrior's gotta 3x physical fitness, which should be relatively quick and easily by comparison.

Fallen
05-06-2008, 11:14 AM
You guys are making me feel bad. I'm still plugging away at Summoning lore. Have 48, want 60.

BigWorm
05-06-2008, 11:26 AM
1x Dodge @ 1.2m exp

or

2x HP @ ~1.7m exp

I'm leaning toward dodge. I'll be getting pretty wicked DS returns with a small sized shield. Any thoughts?

I would think with 2x PT and GoS, you'd be more than good on mana, though a little more would never hurt.

I like dodge because helps every type of DS and if you're going to be 2x, you should see a lot more evades out of EBP, which is win.

Danical
05-06-2008, 05:15 PM
I would think with 2x PT and GoS, you'd be more than good on mana, though a little more would never hurt.

I like dodge because helps every type of DS and if you're going to be 2x, you should see a lot more evades out of EBP, which is win.

With the lore application to scrolls/MIU coming soon, I'll be able to put 4 more items in my disk resulting in increased time in the field loot hunting. Therefore, I'll need more mana to keep hunting until reaching maximum capacity. Also, since I constantly use 1018, I'll be pulsing for 25% of my max mana instead of 15%.

Also, I have roughly 680 DS self-spelled in guarded and something like 480 in offensive so DS really isn't much of an issue.

When the 130 area comes out (RSN, LULZ), DS will most likely be an issue. However, by that time, I will probably have gotten enough exp for 1x dodge, as well as, 2x HP.

BigWorm
05-06-2008, 05:23 PM
With the lore application to scrolls/MIU coming soon, I'll be able to put 4 more items in my disk resulting in increased time in the field loot hunting. Therefore, I'll need more mana to keep hunting until reaching maximum capacity. Also, since I constantly use 1018, I'll be pulsing for 25% of my max mana instead of 15%.

Also, I have roughly 680 DS self-spelled in guarded and something like 480 in offensive so DS really isn't much of an issue.

When the 130 area comes out (RSN, LULZ), DS will most likely be an issue. However, by that time, I will probably have gotten enough exp for 1x dodge, as well as, 2x HP.

You can never have enough DS IMHO. 480 is good until you're prone and get hit by a radical mstriking with a lance and 117.

NocturnalRob
05-06-2008, 05:24 PM
You can never have enough DS IMHO. 480 is good until you're prone and get hit by a radical mstriking with a lance and 117.

learn2dodge, brikus

Danical
05-06-2008, 05:34 PM
You can never have enough DS IMHO. 480 is good until you're prone and get hit by a radical mstriking with a lance and 117.

True, but, I'm rarely in offensive. I have ranks in feint and charge. The only time I get stance forced is by that fucking retarded GWE maneuver; even that is rare.

And, that's self-spelled. If I throw on 202/103/503 then I'll have 520 offensive DS.

You do make a good point; it does happen, albeit, rarely.

BigWorm
05-06-2008, 05:35 PM
learn2dodge, brikus

I hope that if you ever make it to Nelemar, the first thing you see is an executioner who decides to choke a bitch.

BigWorm
05-06-2008, 05:37 PM
The only time I get stance forced is by that fucking retarded GWE maneuver; even that is rare.

Pretty much everything GWEs do is retarded in my book, so I usually run from them like a little girl or have the sorcerer I hunt with implode it into oblivion.

NocturnalRob
05-06-2008, 05:40 PM
who decides to choke a bitch.

oh, are you gonna be there too?

Silique
05-11-2008, 10:08 PM
You currently have 1001387 unspent bounty points.

You have accumulated a total of 1001387 lifetime bounty points.

Sheesh that took longer than I had hoped.

Danical
05-12-2008, 12:24 AM
Armor Use..........................| 190 90 90
Shield Use.........................| 302 202 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101 101
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202 202
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25 25
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202
Dodging............................| 93 21 21
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20 20
Harness Power......................| 200 100 100
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 200 101 101
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 201 101 101
Survival...........................| 201 101 101
Perception.........................| 201 101 101
Climbing...........................| 140 40 40
Swimming...........................| 201 101 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101 101
Trading............................| 292 192 192

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 127 127

__________________________________________________ ___

Ding!

On to 2x HP. 2030 PTPs :(

Rimalon
05-21-2008, 08:17 PM
I fixskilled down all my lockpicking (finally) and forwarded the points into:

Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 302 202

>519
You intone a phrase of elemental power while raising your hands, invoking Immolation...
Your spell is ready.
You gesture at a Grimswarm troll pillager.
CS: +531 - TD: +429 + CvA: +8 + d100: +62 == +172
Warding failed!
Wisps of black smoke swirl around a Grimswarm troll pillager and she bursts into flame!
... 30 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left arm. Gonna need lots of butter.
The troll pillager is stunned!
The troll pillager grimaces as the flames boil her skin making her writhe in pain!
... 40 points of damage!
Burst of flames to left hand burns fingers bright red.

... 30 points of damage!
Nasty burns to left leg. Gonna need lots of butter.
It is knocked to the ground!
The troll pillager howls in agony as the flames dance over her body!
... 35 points of damage!
Left hand fried to a crisp. Think barbecue sauce.

... 35 points of damage!
Flames burn hole in chest exposing ribs!
The troll pillager grimaces as the flames boil her skin making her writhe in pain!
... 45 points of damage!
Right leg horribly scorched. Won't be usable for weeks.

... 40 points of damage!
Flames cook a Grimswarm troll pillager's abdomen. Looks about medium well.
The troll pillager howls in agony as the flames dance over her body!
... 40 points of damage!
Extreme heat causes a Grimswarm troll pillager's left arm to expand and snap. That must hurt!

... 30 points of damage!
Nasty burns to right arm. Gonna need lots of butter.
The troll pillager grimaces as the flames boil her skin making her writhe in pain!
... 40 points of damage!
Left eye propelled out of socket by fiery explosion!


The flames around a Grimswarm troll pillager continue to burn!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Renian
05-21-2008, 08:34 PM
When the 130 area comes out (RSN, LULZ), DS will most likely be an issue.

Speaking of which, I wonder if it will even be possible to solo that place.

That is, without having Tsin's vast array of loots. I'm sure he could do it. 1 second ebow, 10x DB, fully spelled, and uberplate? Bring it.

Danical
05-24-2008, 04:03 PM
Experience: 16000062

Danical
05-25-2008, 05:59 PM
Ever since I started playing GS in 1974, I've wanted to be on the first fame page. It's retarded, I know.

Fame List -- All Players -- Rank 1 to 25
________________________________________________
Rank| Name | Fame |Lvl|G| Race|Prof
------------------------------------------------
1 Tsin 888888898 100 M H-Elf Rog
2 Tarakan 400000106 100 M Human Sor
3 Vrannar 390024442 100 M Elf Wiz
4 Kaedra 345679022 100 F Human Cle
5 Shaukal 319124695 100 M H-Elf Cle
6 Zabarieth 302304346 100 M Human Cle
7 Soulpieced 300000743 100 M Giant Bar
8 Lohre 282262719 100 M Human Cle
9 Darwar 252243443 100 M Elf Sor
10 Yagnuts 251650683 100 M Human Ran
11 Coffie 230106669 100 F Giant Cle
12 Snowie 228607602 100 F Sylva Emp
13 Meyhymm 210369572 100 M D-Elf Sor
14 Tatiyanna 208840143 100 F H-Elf Cle
15 Yactaevia 193398752 100 F D-Elf Sor
16 Windi 188036139 100 F Giant Cle
17 Kadesha 186426311 100 F Dwarf Cle
18 Guenhafyr 182674437 100 F Giant Cle
19 Callinar 177846225 100 M Sylva Pal
20 Kapera 176021998 100 F Aelot Emp
21 Sabreon 173372882 100 M D-Elf Pal
22 Boomsplat 172444408 100 M Giant Rog
23 Bonehitter 168169423 100 M Elf Bar
24 Paragonimus 166746336 100 M Dwarf Wiz
25 Gnimble 166296502 100 M BGnom Bar

Jahira
05-25-2008, 06:08 PM
That is gross the difference between Tsin and everyone else

Renian
05-27-2008, 03:53 AM
Hey Gnimble, bonus: You're the first Burghal Gnome to ever make it on the first page of the fame list.

BigWorm
05-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Experience: 8000089

Danical
05-27-2008, 11:35 AM
Hey Gnimble, bonus: You're the first Burghal Gnome to ever make it on the first page of the fame list.

SHIT, BITCH!

I WAS THE FIRST EXPANSION CHARACTER AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!

I'm pretty pleased with the fame thing even if Kapera has been there for a long time now. :D

Fallen
05-29-2008, 04:40 PM
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 160 60

Up next ... I've decided another 30 ranks of Summoning Lore. Stuff is useful, and I don't really need more CS.

Danical
05-29-2008, 04:44 PM
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 160 60

Up next ... I've decided another 30 ranks of Summoning Lore. Stuff is useful, and I don't really need more CS.

. . .

That's like saying you don't need more WIN! which is just a ridiculous statement.

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Fallen
05-29-2008, 04:47 PM
Only time I fail to ward something is in Grimswarm camps.

Danical
05-29-2008, 04:49 PM
Warding something and PWNing something are two very distinct things.

You'd see a hell of a lot more tangible benefit to getting summoning though.

Fallen
05-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Hell, I mean to start hunting with 125 more often too once I get the RT to the minimum. That spell is awesome.

Sylvan Dreams
05-31-2008, 04:17 PM
Well, now that the cat is out of the bag IC wise, I can post this.

In the skill of forging - crafting, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - pole arms, you are a master with 500 ranks.

Fallen
06-01-2008, 12:37 PM
98 Evarin 97000384 100 M D-Elf Sor

I know it is a stupid and pointless goal, but I always wanted to be in the top 100. Now I want the top 25 sorcerers..but I have a LONG ways to go.

droit
06-01-2008, 12:49 PM
Now I want the top 25 sorcerers..but I have a LONG ways to go.

Hey, wouldya look at that? I'm actually in the top 25 rangers!

222 Droit 61114532 100 M Giant

Lucky number 25.

Rusteek
06-01-2008, 01:17 PM
I recently got excited when I realized I was the highest fame halfling rogue, by by glimmin!

Fallen
06-01-2008, 01:36 PM
The only problem with the fame lists is we would all be blown out of the water if anyone bothered to 1. Turn their flag on, 2. Check in.

But, as they don't, they don't count.

Danical
06-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Armor Use..........................| 190 90 90
Shield Use.........................| 302 202 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101 101
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202 202
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25 25
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 90 20 20
Harness Power......................| 250 150 150
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 201 101 101
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 201 101 101
Survival...........................| 201 101 101
Perception.........................| 201 101 101
Climbing...........................| 140 40 40
Swimming...........................| 201 101 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101 101
Trading............................| 292 192 192

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 127 127

________________________________

Oh. My. God. Harness is taking forever :(

Another 833334 exp to go.

TheWitch
06-20-2008, 08:52 AM
I scrapped the PF at 85 ranks. Now I'm regarding that as about 400 banked TP's in the event I want to train something that matters.

And I have no clear idea what I'm doing.

But, I got the slayer title. Yea, me.

Fallen
06-20-2008, 11:01 AM
HAhahahaha. You just couldn't handle that grind with no tangible benefit, could you? I just grit my teeth, went to 101 ranks, and mentally willed myself to forget about the whole thing. You should do the same.

Kitsun
06-20-2008, 12:24 PM
PF training totally isn't even bad. Maybe a few weeks of hard hunting? Trying to grind out these goddamn 2x lore ranks is taking for-fricking-ever.

Fallen
06-20-2008, 12:41 PM
2x lores, 3x spells, 1x dodge or MOC for pures are the big UGHS. CM isn't too bad.

Everything else is gravy.

TheWitch
06-20-2008, 12:48 PM
I had no issue sinking nearly 2000 TP's into disarm mastery, because every single rank I got the result of being more and more imprevious to jans ganking my runestaff.

Demonology I intend to get to 101 in, and all the way up will know that at various intervals, I can phase more, summon better, the demons can carry more crap, etc.

PF was just....what am I doing this for? Stamina? Meh. HP regen? You need to get hit for that to matter. And if there is actually any benefit to CMAN avoidance, it was so negligble as to be unnoticeable. Yea, I'll finish and get to 1x at some point, but for now I'm so enthralled with 118 I'm doing summoning lore.

Kitsun
06-20-2008, 12:59 PM
Web is a freaking awesome spell since the revamp. At one point I considered going 2x Summoning Lore just for the 100% web on bolts... except I'm not trained in Spell Aiming with my Cleric or Empath.

Danical
06-20-2008, 02:49 PM
Web is fucking nuts on weapon flares. I mean FUCKING NUTS.

Also, Rheisia, PF helps against Creature Maneuvers (e.g., griffin drops, construct pinballs, motes, etc.).

Fallen
06-20-2008, 05:08 PM
She knows, she just got ancy because some number on her swing and cast wasn't rising every few ranks.

TheWitch
06-20-2008, 05:18 PM
She knows, she just got ancy because some number on her swing and cast wasn't rising every few ranks.

Yea, that's it.:club:

Fallen
06-21-2008, 01:54 AM
Experience: 12000005

Kitsun
06-21-2008, 01:41 PM
Experience: 14000012

So close and yet so far from the double-cap mark.

Fallen
06-21-2008, 01:42 PM
Nice, Kitsun. I'm still just a liddle guy.

TheWitch
06-24-2008, 08:14 AM
Nice, Kitsun. I'm still just a liddle guy.

Experience: 13001275

Indeed.

:tumble:

Kitsun
06-24-2008, 11:55 AM
Geez, you two are streaking right along!

Couple million that far post-cap doesn't mean all that much.

Danical
06-24-2008, 01:31 PM
I really slowed down the last two months due to internet suckage and vacation time.

Since coming back, I haven't been grinding nearly as much as I had in the past.

I'm sure once monks come out, things will change!

Kitsun
06-24-2008, 01:43 PM
I think I capped like a couple years before The Witch and Evarin both. Riding my coattails now!

AnticorRifling
06-24-2008, 02:16 PM
I decided to take up alchemy on my paladin. Went from 1-375 before my hearthstone was up.

TheEschaton
06-24-2008, 02:30 PM
Make me some pots, bitch!

Fallen
06-24-2008, 04:53 PM
This goal was a long, long time in coming. Keep those Unpresence scrolls handy, as Evarin can now locate anywhere on the globe:

Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 190 90

AND, because some bastard decided to bother with registering on the fame charts ahead of me, I am reposting my 99th spot on the god damn fame boards. Suck one, Desorceri:

99 Evarin 99557430 100 M D-Elf Sor
100 Desorceri 99526039 100 M D-Elf Sor
101 Vespres 96941457 100 F Giant Cle

Danical
06-24-2008, 05:26 PM
Wait, did you really get the summoning lore for global locate . . . ?

The Ponzzz
06-24-2008, 05:39 PM
The only other things summoning lore will help is some 100s spells and curse.

Fallen
06-24-2008, 06:16 PM
It helps my area web, web bolt, 125 (Faster load time), some off-circle spells, and apparently, 130, which I don't use. And you bet your ass X-realms locate.

It was primarily for roleplaying, but those web bolts sure do kick ass.

Stunseed
06-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Why does Evarin not use 130?

Fallen
06-24-2008, 06:22 PM
740 + Gold rings = Fuck 130. If I could 3x train Physical Fitness like Estild/Oscuro's favored children and have absolutely no penalties from the spell, I would.

----
Spirit Summoning
This skill represents advanced knowledge of summoning rites for lesser and greater spirits.
Minor Spirit Spell Circle
Unbalance (110) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=3#110)- Don't use this
Fire Spirit (111) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=3#111)- +DF and Splash numbers, every hunt
Call Lightning (125) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=3#125)- Every hunt to open boxes, also great against invasion creatures and niche CvC.
Web (118) Hah. Yep.
Major Spirit Spell Circle
Silence (210) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=4#210) -Infrequent
Spirit Servant (218) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=4#218)

Cleric Spell Circle
Divine Wrath (319) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=7#319)- Nope
Holy Receptacle (325) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=7#325)
Ranger Spell Circle
Whispering Willow (605) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#605)-Yes. I can whisper to anyone in any town
Sounds (607) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#607)-Yep
Tangle Weed (610) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#610)- Yep
Breeze (612) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#612)- Yep
Imbue (614) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#614)
Spike Thorn (616) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#616)
Nature’s Fury (635) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#635)
Assume Aspect (650) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=9#650)

Paladin Spell Circle
Pious Trial (1602) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1602)
Faith’s Clarity (1603) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1603)
Arm of the Arkati (1605) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1605)- +19% DF. Very yes.
Sanctify (1625) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1625)
Judgment (1630) (http://www.play.net/gs4/info/spells/spelllist.asp?circle=13#1630)

Stunseed
06-24-2008, 06:32 PM
You sneaky bastard, you forgot to mention one of the spells that uses summon lore. I wager that Divine Shield recharger works wonders with that much lore.

thefarmer
06-24-2008, 06:32 PM
Arm of the Arkati (1605) - +19% DF. Very yes.

You swing a weapon?

Fallen
06-24-2008, 07:07 PM
Nope, but my hunting partner does.

Danical
06-24-2008, 07:15 PM
It's lore / 3 for prof circles unless, of course, you have knowledge of the spell.

So you have 30 effective lore which nets you 14% DF increase.

Also, those changes haven't gone through yet or my god damn disk would hold a shit-ton more with my 101 Air Lore.

Fallen
06-24-2008, 07:29 PM
Some work with full lore, some don't work at all, some with the right lore thresholds.

Danical
06-25-2008, 12:39 AM
The ones that work with full lore will be changed once they actually push the lore application to scrolls/items through.

Rimalon
06-25-2008, 03:22 AM
Can we count by half-millions?!

Experience: 9500009

Fallen
06-25-2008, 08:22 AM
Less War Camps, more Adventurer's Guild, Rimalon!

Rimalon
06-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Yeah, really. If I think about all the instant bounty experience I've missed out on, it makes me sad.

BigWorm
06-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Current society status:
You are a Master of the Guardians of Sunfist.

Khariz
07-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Finally cleared 8mil+ exp.

Fallen
07-08-2008, 11:54 AM
Nice. What are you working on currently, Khariz?

I am in this hazy CM or 2x HP phase

Khariz
07-08-2008, 11:56 AM
Finally cleared 8mil+ exp.

I'm about to finish my 3x PF, and then I'll finish my 3x dodge. Both are on their way. I'm all about what gives me passive mechanical benefit. Especially since my hunting ground is soloing warcamps now, I'll take the extra DS and Redix.

As for what I do after that...hadn't figured that out quite yet.

Armor Use..........................| 240 140
Combat Maneuvers...................| 302 202
Two-Handed Weapons.................| 302 202
Ambush.............................| 120 30
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 160 60
Physical Fitness...................| 356 256
Dodging............................| 345 245
Arcane Symbols.....................| 175 75
Magic Item Use.....................| 175 75
Harness Power......................| 62 13
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 150 50
Swimming...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 120 30

That's current.

Fallen
07-08-2008, 11:59 AM
Take Arcane symbols and MIU up to a full 1x.

More Spellburst breathing room, longer durations. I am sure you will have a glut of Mental TPs. Could always get more HP for Sunfist signs too.

Khariz
07-08-2008, 12:00 PM
Take Arcane symbols and MIU up to a full 1x.

More Spellburst breathing room, longer durations. I am sure you will have a glut of Mental TPs. Could always get more HP for Sunfist signs too.

Yeah...I'm not actually in sunfist. I just abuse the warcamps. Thought about doing the MIU and AS thing. There's stilla few more spells I would like to wear that I can't. These numbers get me all wizard and cleric spells and colors. If I go beyond that I start getting zapped.

Danical
07-08-2008, 12:33 PM
I foresee MIU and/or AS being top priorities for post cappers when the 130 area comes out.

Ashliana
07-08-2008, 01:21 PM
What is the point of 200 climbing/swimming ranks?

Fallen
07-08-2008, 01:21 PM
Redux, and is useful for Teras swim wise. Defense against that drown maneuver.

NocturnalRob
07-08-2008, 01:28 PM
Redux, and is useful for Teras swim wise. Defense against that drown maneuver.

since when do swimming/climbing have any effect on redux? i thought that was changed.

edit: In your face, Kitsun! I type FASTER!

Kitsun
07-08-2008, 01:28 PM
Climb/swim doesn't factor into redux anymore.

I max trained my climb/swim for the sake of never needing to worry about drowning/falling on the freak incidents where I forget I have 200,000 coins on me.

Khariz
07-08-2008, 01:34 PM
My swim training is solely for swimming into Nelemar with zero failures in the swim (so I can script without watching my script to swim in), and for the executioner drown maneuvers. Never drowned once from it with 101 swim ranks.

Danical
07-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Money says the way to the 130 area will require an assload of climbing and/or swimming.

In other news, 42 more ranks of HP = 700k exp . . .

Renian
07-08-2008, 01:52 PM
My swim training is solely for swimming into Nelemar with zero failures in the swim (so I can script without watching my script to swim in), and for the executioner drown maneuvers. Never drowned once from it with 101 swim ranks.

I have drowned from the executioners from that many ranks.

However, as an archer, I don't make as much effort to check my encumbrance.

Danical
07-08-2008, 02:15 PM
PF and CM also play a part . . . I think. I know Mestys released the factors to that and Stone Fist a year back.

BigWorm
07-08-2008, 03:17 PM
PF and CM also play a part . . . I think. I know Mestys released the factors to that and Stone Fist a year back.

I'm pretty sure that's what he posted. That was around the time more people were learning how much PT effects critter maneuvers in general.

joehollywood
07-09-2008, 05:21 AM
hey khariz, pardon me if this is a dumbass question, most of mine are...but didn't someone say definatively that you can get 5 spells and it not affect redux one bit?

pop 401 and 101...two freebie spells and that should take up your TP's for a bit

Fallen
07-09-2008, 07:29 AM
For a warrior I think that would be an absolute complete waste of points. It costs warriors something like 120 mental points to get a spell. That is MORE than enough TPs to get enough MIU/Arcane symbols to use the spell yourself. There is no benefit to self-casting these spells other than the spellburst threshold, and MIU/Arcane Symbols will provide that in spades.

Rogues should learn spells to help them pick, or for stuff like e-wave and Targetting. Warriors should leave learning spells the hell alone.

Khariz
07-09-2008, 09:26 AM
For a warrior I think that would be an absolute complete waste of points. It costs warriors something like 120 mental points to get a spell. That is MORE than enough TPs to get enough MIU/Arcane symbols to use the spell yourself. There is no benefit to self-casting these spells other than the spellburst threshold, and MIU/Arcane Symbols will provide that in spades.

Rogues should learn spells to help them pick, or for stuff like e-wave and Targetting. Warriors should leave learning spells the hell alone.

I own a sorcerer, wizard, and cleric to spell me up. I'll never be learning any spells.

Fallen
07-09-2008, 09:32 AM
Spell tanked Square = Strongest defensive build in the game.

AnticorRifling
07-09-2008, 09:41 AM
Spell tanked Square = Strongest defensive build in the game.

Moreso than having a complete outside spellup + being able to run 919 at all times?

Fallen
07-09-2008, 09:45 AM
Yes. Maneuvers bypass DS/TD, and while haste helps, a square wears thicker armor, and is by nature of his profession is able to train to mitigate the damage/risk. Add in Redux and now you're talking.

Basically, a square can make himself immune to most DS AND TD based attacks, and have the best odds against maneuvers.

Pures can only boast immunity to DS/TD based attacks, but will always have a weakness to CMANs and maneuvers, even with "maxed" skills.

Danical
07-09-2008, 01:26 PM
A bard with 128 spellsong-powered Song of Luck with 2x CM/PF would be better than 2x CM / 3x PF warrior against Maneuvers.

However, the likelihood of having a build like is next to impossible as it would take a ton of post cap exp.

BigWorm
07-09-2008, 01:34 PM
A bard with 128 spellsong-powered Song of Luck with 2x CM/PF would be better than 2x CM / 3x PF warrior against Maneuvers.

However, the likelihood of having a build like is next to impossible as it would take a ton of post cap exp.

Are you only 1x in CM?

Fallen
07-09-2008, 01:34 PM
Bard can't wear plate and remain as universally effective.

Kitsun
07-09-2008, 01:35 PM
Heh, the day after I sold my bard, my mage got splattered by two adept motes in two back to back hunts. Hadn't actually died to a mote in like 8 months prior.

Danical
07-09-2008, 01:48 PM
Bard can't wear plate and remain as universally effective.

Plate only hinders your chance to avoid Maneuvers :(

Additionally, plate and redux are irrelevant concerning DS if you never get hit.

Danical
07-09-2008, 02:03 PM
Are you only 1x in CM?

Correct.

To go from 1x to 2x CM it would take 3232 PTPs which is 2693334 exp. I like having all the ancillary skills I have instead.

After I finish 2x HP (683334 more exp), then I have 1x Dodge at 1.5m exp.

I could dump my 192 ranks of trading, 24 ranks of EMC, 101 ranks of FA and Survival but it's well worth the bounty points and jink.

Fallen
07-09-2008, 02:14 PM
Plate only hinders your chance to avoid Maneuvers :(

Additionally, plate and redux are irrelevant concerning DS if you never get hit.

Avoiding maneuvers only goes so far. After a point, it doesn't matter how good at dodging you are, you're going to get hit. In plate, you're in the best position to survive.

Danical
07-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Plate has, I've been told, absolutely no bearing on the wound severity via Maneuvers; crit padding, however, does affect wound severity.

Fallen
07-09-2008, 02:30 PM
You're telling me armor doesn't factor in the damage output of maneuvers?

Danical
07-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Correct.

Fallen
07-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Nonsense.

Danical
07-09-2008, 03:33 PM
Lies.

Rimalon
07-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24

Now. Someone die so I can raise you.

Fallen
07-15-2008, 07:30 PM
Hahahahahha. Good stuff, Rimalon. Care to post your build? I would love to see it.

Rimalon
07-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Armor Use..........................| 70 15
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 25 5
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 302 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 302 202
Spell Aiming.......................| 302 202
Harness Power......................| 201 101
Elemental Mana Control.............| 201 101
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 302 202
Survival...........................| 102 24
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 150 50

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 100

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 75

I don't know what to do next, really. Obviously there's HP and EMC to 2x, but that's almost as bad as Spell Rank Hell. Probably Survival and Climb and Perception to 50 ranks, then maybe Climb/Swim to 101. Then it's on to the hellish grind.

Kitsun
07-15-2008, 08:29 PM
I actually didn't mind pushing my spell ranks to 3x. At least you're typically getting CS, TD, spell duration, Spell bonuses and stuff.

Why Survival at 24? Just for the random no-slip?

Rimalon
07-15-2008, 08:36 PM
Yeah, it's for the Icemule no-slippage, but also for the assumption that Phase 2 of Alchemy is going to be worth a damn, and I'm going to need to do alchemy (and forage for bullshit components).

...Having just said that, I suddenly feel like taking it down to 0.

Fallen
07-15-2008, 09:01 PM
I don't know what to do next, really. Obviously there's HP and EMC to 2x, but that's almost as bad as Spell Rank Hell. Probably Survival and Climb and Perception to 50 ranks, then maybe Climb/Swim to 101. Then it's on to the hellish grind. >>

EMC to 2x, I would say. Get the most out of 540. It is a hell of a spell if you max it out.

Fallen
07-16-2008, 12:40 AM
VinMac3l6 [12:38 A.M.]: Experience: 12345643
MSimechak [12:38 A.M.]: that's hilarious
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: wait for it...
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: Awww
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: SO CLOSE
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: Experience: 12345679
MSimechak [12:39 A.M.]: just lie about it on the PC, hehe

Jaimaltz
07-16-2008, 02:01 AM
VinMac3l6 [12:38 A.M.]: Experience: 12345643
MSimechak [12:38 A.M.]: that's hilarious
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: wait for it...
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: Awww
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: SO CLOSE
VinMac3l6 [12:39 A.M.]: Experience: 12345679
MSimechak [12:39 A.M.]: just lie about it on the PC, hehe

That'd be sweet to pull off, but it's not high enough. Would have been cooler if it were 123456789.

Could have turned the fame flag on, been waiting by the front desk, checked in for the last time, and had that be permanently on the fame lists.

Fallen
07-16-2008, 07:18 AM
alright. When I get up towards 123 million experience I will give it another go.

NocturnalRob
07-16-2008, 07:31 AM
i dunno, man. having done that six or seven times already, i seem to recall that it's rather tedious...

Fallen
07-16-2008, 09:02 AM
I know, man, but.. You gotta feed the monkey.

NocturnalRob
07-16-2008, 09:15 AM
I know, man, but.. You gotta feed the monkey.

EAT IT!!

http://www.habeeb.com/images/funny.photos/funny.monkey.eating.popsicle.jpg

droit
07-17-2008, 03:19 AM
I've been hovering around a full 2x for a while now, but I finally decided to go for it and strike it off the list.

Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202

Oh, and I reached 9m EXP yesterday, too.

Khariz
07-17-2008, 11:31 AM
I've been hovering around a full 2x for a while now, but I finally decided to go for it and strike it off the list.

Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202

Oh, and I reached 9m EXP yesterday, too.

No thanks to me leaving you dead, imploded in a warcamp. Or did you warp back to town? Oh you were prolly in the mess hall, eh?

Jaimaltz
07-17-2008, 02:21 PM
alright. When I get up towards 123 million experience I will give it another go.

Haha, don't know why, but for some reason my brain was thinking fame when I added my comment. Nice work.

droit
07-17-2008, 11:43 PM
No thanks to me leaving you dead, imploded in a warcamp. Or did you warp back to town? Oh you were prolly in the mess hall, eh?

Yeah, that was pretty heartless. As a matter of fact, it wasn't implosion that got me. I walked right into a cloud that made all my squishy bits explode. I wasn't even aware that clouds could cause the "* Droit was just vaporized" messaging. So, in answer to your question, I did not get a free trip to town, I did get chowed by a Grim, but thankfully, I was rescued by Nilandia.

Khariz
07-17-2008, 11:55 PM
Yeah, that was pretty heartless. As a matter of fact, it wasn't implosion that got me. I walked right into a cloud that made all my squishy bits explode. I wasn't even aware that clouds could cause the "* Droit was just vaporized" messaging. So, in answer to your question, I did not get a free trip to town, I did get chowed by a Grim, but thankfully, I was rescued by Nilandia.

That's what I get for assuming that you were imploded. Sorry about that. Was trying to find that Lanlan guy who was with my who DID just get imploded, haha.

Rimalon
07-18-2008, 12:46 AM
That whole mess in the warcamp last night was started by my computer being destroyed by Vista and ghosting me, leaving Droit but a helpless puppy without his master.

So it's no one's fault except Microsoft's.

droit
07-18-2008, 01:49 AM
That whole mess in the warcamp last night was started by my computer being destroyed by Vista and ghosting me, leaving Droit but a helpless puppy without his master.

So it's no one's fault except Microsoft's.

I would have been fine if I hadn't gone back for your sorry ass. Lesson learned.

TheLastShamurai
07-20-2008, 12:56 PM
i read somewhere earlier in this post about how much higher on the fame list Tsin is. and i figure he experience is equally enourmously high.

was wondering how he did that? has the character just been sold and passed down from the start of the game?

or is the guy the best scripter/power hunter ever or something?

Fallen
07-20-2008, 01:11 PM
For a time he hunted for most of the day every day, and is able to reliably kill anything in one shot.

Danical
07-21-2008, 06:35 PM
He doesn't even have close to maxing all skills.

All relevant ones? Yes.

Fallen
07-21-2008, 10:04 PM
Tsin isn't playing as much as he used to, hence him not selling tons of great enhancives.

:(

Stretch
07-21-2008, 10:31 PM
Tsin isn't playing as much as he used to, hence him not selling tons of great enhancives.



Lord knows he has reason to be burned out.

I once tried silver hunting for six hours in one day and wanted to shoot myself by the end.

Danical
07-22-2008, 02:03 AM
But you did that like 12 times . . .

Renian
07-24-2008, 01:49 PM
Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 25

Rogue 425 = win

Fallen
07-24-2008, 02:18 PM
Heh. Your rogue ways a fucking ton, if it is Renian.

Renian
07-25-2008, 01:31 PM
It is.

I'm a giant, what do you want?!

Fallen
07-25-2008, 02:08 PM
For when a construct removes people's arms, it also subtracts that weight from their body. That would be sweet.

Allereli
07-25-2008, 02:15 PM
For when a construct removes people's arms, it also subtracts that weight from their body. That would be sweet.

I would love to be able to dismember people after they die to make dragging easier

Stretch
07-25-2008, 02:20 PM
Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 25

Rogue 425 = win

lulz @ not having 430/107

Fallen
07-25-2008, 02:20 PM
They should SO make that a sorcerer skill. I think I may go propose that right now!

708 corpse left/right arm/leg

that's good stuff.

NocturnalRob
07-25-2008, 02:24 PM
lulz @ not having 430/107

does 430 cap out at max DS provided?

Fallen
07-25-2008, 02:26 PM
Yes, at level 100.

Stretch
07-25-2008, 02:27 PM
does 430 cap out at max DS provided?

I don't think so, but it's a pretty shitty return given the number of training points squares have to put in.

Much better to get to 120, IMO. I think my rogue had 430/120 by the time I got bored and stopped playing again.

Renian
07-25-2008, 02:43 PM
lulz @ not having 430/107

>107 renian
Voodoo '107 renian' to 'PREPARE 107', 'CAST AT renian'.
You gesture while calling upon the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Warding II spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at Renian.
A deep blue glow surrounds Renian.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

EMPATH BITCH!

...430 is next. Maybe after Survival/FA so I can get more xps from bounties.


I don't think so, but it's a pretty shitty return given the number of training points squares have to put in.

Much better to get to 120, IMO. I think my rogue had 430/120 by the time I got bored and stopped playing again.


Not really. If you already have 425, which increases your AS (which you want more as an archer), then getting just 5 more ranks seems like a plan.

Stretch
07-25-2008, 03:12 PM
>

Not really. If you already have 425, which increases your AS (which you want more as an archer), then getting just 5 more ranks seems like a plan.

Oh, no, I meant going past 75 ranks of MnE = lose

Renian
07-25-2008, 03:38 PM
Oh, no, I meant going past 75 ranks of MnE = lose

Oh. Truth.

Ashmoon
07-25-2008, 05:06 PM
I managed to log in and get spelled up. Maybe since that hassle is out of the way, I'll actually force myself to do a hunt.

Since cap, I've become increasingly GS demotivated. My standing post-cap goal is to endure the grind for at least 3 hours a week to take advantage of the gift. Throwing all my points into trading right now.

Sylvan Dreams
08-03-2008, 07:13 PM
Experience: 14000010

AestheticDeath
08-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Experience: 14000010

Warrior right? How many other warriors are that far along besides Drizzsdt?

Khariz
08-03-2008, 08:18 PM
Now granted this isn't up to date, but just as a tool of reference:

Fame List -- Warriors -- Starting Rank 1
_____________________________________________
Rank| Name | Fame |Lvl|G| Race
---------------------------------------------
43 Drizzsdt 139008957 100 M Giant
45 Xrothgar 135256679 100 M Human
107 Rylark 92205663 100 M Dwarf
110 Kriztian 91058243 100 M Human
114 Changchuan 90306436 100 M DarkElf
129 Vlatimire 83383626 100 M Giant
142 Morelean 80799327 100 M Giant
156 Perigourd 76898907 100 M Human
157 Kinshack 76890734 100 M Giant
176 Bromos 72073904 94 M Human
183 Thundermin 70128534 96 M Giant
205 Risky 66168078 100 M Human
212 Rogad 64071927 100 F Giant
213 Vindicate 64070577 100 M Giant
231 Nitezor 60002221 100 F Giant
232 Aysia 60001146 88 F Human
238 Megaladon 59300913 100 M Giant
239 Azerius 59222295 91 M Dwarf
245 Daergard 58813638 85 M Giant
246 Koleph 58806187 100 M Dwarf
259 Teeoncy 56722559 100 F Human
267 Durfin 55079504 100 M Dwarf
273 Landceal 54572731 90 M Giant
281 Mystiss 53441895 78 F Human
285 Reife 53169929 94 M Giant
>

Sylvan Dreams
08-03-2008, 08:22 PM
That fame page is VERY out of date.

Danical
08-08-2008, 05:17 PM
Mana Points: 400 Remaining: 400

9 more ranks to go!

crb
08-08-2008, 06:00 PM
don't assume Drizz is high.

Level 250 in GS3 == 12m experience.

So for those few who got really old in gs3, but then largely stopped playing, they would have been passed by the power hunters of today by far. Tsin alone in gs3 would have been like level 600

Sylvan Dreams
08-08-2008, 06:33 PM
Not to mention that with FLAG FAME OFF, you can travel up in fame completely undetected. I haven't been on the fame pages in years.

Danical
08-08-2008, 06:39 PM
HOW MUCH FAME DO YOU HAVE?

Stretch
08-08-2008, 06:43 PM
don't assume Drizz is high.

Level 250 in GS3 == 12m experience.

So for those few who got really old in gs3, but then largely stopped playing, they would have been passed by the power hunters of today by far. Tsin alone in gs3 would have been like level 600

The last I heard, he was up around 18m.

Sylvan Dreams
08-08-2008, 06:43 PM
HOW MUCH FAME DO YOU HAVE?

:shrug:

Danical
08-08-2008, 06:59 PM
YOU TEASE!

AestheticDeath
08-09-2008, 11:57 AM
don't assume Drizz is high.

Level 250 in GS3 == 12m experience.

So for those few who got really old in gs3, but then largely stopped playing, they would have been passed by the power hunters of today by far. Tsin alone in gs3 would have been like level 600

I was not assuming anything. Nor was I basing it off of the fame pages.

Drizzsdt was one of the few warriors I knew to have a ton of exp, even in GS4. From various people I have heard he was closing in on 20m exp, but never quite knew exactly how much since I don't know him.

Recently I have become aware of a lot of capped warriors I had never really heard of.

Just wondering if anyone knew for sure since warriors are kinda the low man on the totem.


Anyone have a list of characters and their profession that are close to or above 20m exp? And that don't care if its known? The few I know of try to keep it quite even if its pretty well known.

Sylvan Dreams
08-09-2008, 12:33 PM
BigScarySorcerer gestures at an Ithzir adept.
CS: +546095611 - TD: +415609568 + CvA: +143534669 + d100: +45 == +156456657
Warding failed!
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
An Ithzir adept is suddenly engulfed in flames of pure essence!
... 20 points of damage!
Nasty burns to right hand. Gonna need lots of butter.
... 50 points of damage!
Blast freezes one eye. The impact causes it to blast through the brain to the back of the skull. Not much use dead, but she now has eyes in the back of her head!
You feel your spiritual bond with your serrated glaes falchion strengthen.
The Ithzir adept falls to the ground in a crumpled heap.
The Ithzir adept no longer bristles with energy.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding an Ithzir adept suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves an Ithzir adept.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
An Ithzir adept becomes solid again.
The bright luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The silvery luminescence fades from around an Ithzir adept.
The translucent sphere fades from around an Ithzir adept.

Only took 12 days!

Fallen
08-09-2008, 01:05 PM
for the record, my CS is 511. Who cares? Fuck with me and it wont be CS you'll be facing.

thefarmer
08-09-2008, 01:14 PM
for the record, my CS is 511. Who cares? Fuck with me and it wont be CS you'll be facing.

What will it be? Debia (with her neatly trimmed bush) hurling spears?

Fallen
08-09-2008, 01:18 PM
Implosion.

Soulpieced
08-09-2008, 02:15 PM
for the record, my CS is 511. Who cares? Fuck with me and it wont be CS you'll be facing.

I'm a bard and my CS is higher than that :-X

Fallen
08-09-2008, 02:17 PM
Who cares about CS when I cannot fail to ward anything I normally hunt? Only fools chase pointlessly large numbers.

GS4Khistian
08-09-2008, 09:23 PM
It is pretty low though.

Khariz
08-09-2008, 09:24 PM
It is pretty low though.

Low compared to what? Depending on Race, a decent capped Sorcerer CS is 515-525.

Renian
08-09-2008, 09:26 PM
Who cares about CS when I cannot fail to ward anything I normally hunt? Only fools chase e-penis.
Fixed.

thefarmer
08-09-2008, 10:29 PM
Implosion.

Ah.

Since I haven't played a sorcerer seriously in something like 10 years, I was confused why one wouldn't use a CS attack.

Fallen
08-10-2008, 01:19 AM
My CS is definitely low for the amount of EXP I have. Most sorcerers go for 2.5x-3x spells right away until they burn out or finish it.

Ryenn
08-10-2008, 02:00 AM
Dark elves get a few points of CS in exchange for being one the shittiest race in the game in just about every other category possible.

Danical
08-10-2008, 10:41 AM
I believe max CS for a level 100 dark elf sorcerer (assuming no enhancives) is 540.

They get a natural +15 CS in exchange for being one of if not the shittiest race in the game in just about every other category possible.

it's like +7. :(

[5 (WI) + 10 (AU)] / 2

Renian
08-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Expr: 9000279

Friggin RPI kept me from learning Lich as soon as I would have wanted. But now I know it.

AND NOW MY XP WILL GO TO THE MOON!!!1

Danical
08-12-2008, 02:49 PM
You and Latrin go to the same school . . . ?

Renian
08-12-2008, 03:35 PM
Um. Apparently?

There's actually a lot of GS'ers that go to RPI, but I haven't seen any of them. I know Zaaf and Specie recently graduated from there.

Rimalon
08-15-2008, 03:05 AM
Experience: 10000002

...Harness power to 2x is pissing me off.

Danical
08-15-2008, 06:25 AM
Lulz - 2 ranks away from being 2x HP for me!

Danical
08-17-2008, 06:54 AM
Experience: 17009993

Forgot to get it close to the mark.

Also, I'm done with HP in 10007 exp.

Sylvan Dreams
08-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Perception.........................| 201 101

Danical
08-18-2008, 06:26 PM
Armor Use..........................| 190 90 90
Shield Use.........................| 302 202 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101 101
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202 202
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25 25
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202 202
Harness Power......................| 302 202 202
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 201 101 101
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 201 101 101
Survival...........................| 201 101 101
Perception.........................| 201 101 101
Climbing...........................| 140 40 40
Swimming...........................| 201 101 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101 101
Trading............................| 292 192 192

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 127 127


____________________________________

New Goal: 1x Dodge @ 18 PTPs per = 1.5m exp

Renian
08-18-2008, 06:32 PM
...Wait.

Holy shit, you don't have any dodge?! AND YOU'RE LIKE TWICE CAPPED!?

TheLastShamurai
08-18-2008, 06:46 PM
well he has some dodge, they're just phantom ranks or some such.

or atleast i think thats how that spell works.

Kitsun
08-18-2008, 06:54 PM
That is some insane hardcore training.

Renian
08-18-2008, 07:49 PM
well he has some dodge, they're just phantom ranks or some such.

or atleast i think thats how that spell works.

I know he can get some phantom dodge from Tonis and Mirror Song, which with his bard spell training, is essentially 1x dodge. There's also sonic armor (7x) and the elemental defenses. So I guess with the sword/board in guarded he does fine.

Still, even my bard 1x's dodge. But he poles. Gnimble probably just probably banks on 1030'ing mobs before they release he's actually in the room.

Danical
08-18-2008, 10:08 PM
I hunt in Guarded. :shrug:

I have about 460 DS in offensive stance self-spelled.

holocene
08-19-2008, 02:48 PM
Experience: 10000022

Fixskilled my 3x Dodge to go 3x PF and some magic skills and trading...another 1m to get back up to 3x Dodge.

Khariz
08-22-2008, 12:17 PM
Physical Fitness...................| 403 303 303

Experience: 8581878


About Damn time on the PF.

droit
08-22-2008, 01:02 PM
Whats your con bonus and total stamina?

Khariz
08-22-2008, 01:41 PM
Constitution (CON): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)

Maximum Stamina Points: 202

Silique
08-22-2008, 05:35 PM
202 with surge?

197 without?

Khariz
08-22-2008, 05:39 PM
202 with surge?

197 without?

yes.

Soulpieced
08-22-2008, 05:40 PM
I hunt in Guarded. :shrug:

I have about 460 DS in offensive stance self-spelled.

::Snicker::

Danical
08-22-2008, 06:05 PM
::Snicker::

okayy?

Soulpieced
08-22-2008, 09:57 PM
Nothing, nothing.

Danical
08-29-2008, 04:54 PM
I decided to forgo dodge since I don't need it and get 1x MIU instead.


Nothing, nothing.

Oh, ok, good. I thought we were going to compare who has the bigger CS. LULZ, IZ I RITE?

But really, how much exp do you have now?

Askip
08-31-2008, 09:50 AM
I just finished getting 2x FA.

Now working on 40 Trading ranks, then going to 1x in Swim.

After that maybe 1x Climb before I go for more Fire Lore.

I'd also like the fourth CMAN DISARM rank but that is damn pricey for a mage so it can wait.

:D

Askip (at level 100), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 20 4
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Brawling...........................| 5 1
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 15 3
Physical Fitness...................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 302 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 302 202
Spell Aiming.......................| 302 202
Harness Power......................| 200 100
Elemental Mana Control.............| 201 101
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Fire..............| 50 10
Survival...........................| 201 101
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 150 50
Swimming...........................| 150 50
First Aid..........................| 302 202
Trading............................| 62 13

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 101

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 101

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 101

Askip, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Disarm Weapon disarm 3

Swami71
08-31-2008, 02:19 PM
Why not just do shield? Cheaper and more effective than learning Cman disarm.

Askip
09-01-2008, 06:02 AM
<< Why not just do shield? >>

Hmm. Would the 86 shield ranks that 1120 PTPs buys outweigh the DS loss of a dropped runestaff?

:D

Swami71
09-01-2008, 08:47 AM
I think so when you consider the DS loss when disarmed is bigger and the RT from the maneuver.

I only have 50 shield ranks and hunt nelmar. Life's much better now that i use a shield.

700 DS with runestaff dropped to 400's when disarmed OR 600 DS the whole time with a shield no worries about being disarmed.

Askip
09-01-2008, 10:53 AM
<< 700 DS with runestaff dropped to 400's when disarmed OR 600 DS the whole time with a shield no worries about being disarmed. >>

Interesting, thanks for the info.

So that shield 600 DS is without a runestaff? Can a runestaff be added or is it either/or?

:D

Swami71
09-01-2008, 03:36 PM
So that shield 600 DS is without a runestaff? Can a runestaff be added or is it either/or?

:D

600 DS without a runestaff but I get outside ranger and wizard spells. But only 50 ranks of shield use and now its not a priority to get more cause i have no DS issues.

and I'm pretty sure its either shield or runestaff can't use both.

Kitsun
09-17-2008, 01:44 PM
My rogue finally hit E-Barrier. Now onto 120.

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 30

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 7

Danical
09-17-2008, 04:17 PM
Good work.

13 spells . . . ugh. That's a lot of TPs but 20 Spirit TD is so worth it.

Kitsun
09-17-2008, 07:08 PM
I was tempted to shave the TPs for 120 from my spare Armor ranks but I've noticed a sharp decline in getting instantly PWND from Adept motes since I picked up 190 ranks. Not like I've got anything else to train for now anyhow.

TheWitch
09-18-2008, 08:35 AM
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 191 91 91

And done with that for now.

Might go to 1x after I finish something else.

Danical
09-18-2008, 01:40 PM
What's the 91 give you?

Back
09-18-2008, 01:48 PM
Because you were always attacked personally purely because of your politics...


I needed this laugh this morning.

:lol:

I was not actually talking about myself. While I do feel that it has happened to me, and that I have probably done it to others, its just indicative of politics in general.

Just look at any campaign. McCain’s campaign is a perfect example.

Read any politics thread. Eventually they all boil down to nasty insults. From both sides.

Danical
09-18-2008, 01:54 PM
Wrong thread champ :)

Gelston
09-18-2008, 01:58 PM
I remember once it took me TWO ENTIRE HOURS to download this one song on Napster. But that was also before I had Cable. Still, it used to piss me off when you'd have to wait for more people to log in to download missing pieces of it.

Gelston
09-18-2008, 01:58 PM
Wrong thread champ :)

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=36093

TheWitch
09-19-2008, 07:31 AM
What's the 91 give you?

90 gives you cross-realm locate with 116, to anywhere from anywhere. It doesn't override blocked locations, obviously, but I can now peer in on you on Teras from Illistim, 740 there and kick your ass. :yes:

Not that I would ever do that. Just sayin.

91, adds one more potential target from splash on 111. Why not, right?

Rimalon
09-19-2008, 04:03 PM
91, adds one more potential target from splash on 111. Why not, right?

And each additional rank after 91 continues to add DF for 111. Why not, right???

Mmmm, fireball DF!

droit
09-26-2008, 03:18 PM
You have accumulated a total of 2750813 lifetime bounty points.

The fireleaf badge is bound with polished veniom and bears the legend, "The Adventurer's Guild". Beneath are the embossed images of a flaming longsword on the left side and a distant mountainscape on the right, with a firestone mounted between them. At the very bottom is a tiny bolted plate inscribed with the name, "Droit Dassamar, Trophy Hunter Extraordinaire".

Not exactly an EXP goal, but a goal I've held since I've capped nonetheless.

Booyah.

Abyran'sa
09-30-2008, 01:08 PM
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 302 202

Woot. I know everyone probably thinks this is a waste of training points mechanically, but it is my first post cap goal! :D

Sereg's puppeteer

Dwarven Empath
10-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Not a goal.

Maybe a milestone. For me.

Experience: 15000004

Fame still sucks but still.

Medi...

droit
10-08-2008, 08:04 PM
Well that just makes me feel inadequate.

Experience: 10000028

Dwarven Empath
10-08-2008, 08:05 PM
It should. LoL

Rimalon
10-09-2008, 12:54 AM
You ask Keplar about getting promoted to your next rank in General Alchemy.

Keplar completes the promotion ritual and says, "Congratulations, Rimalon, for mastering this skill!"

Took me 16 days.

NocturnalRob
10-09-2008, 12:56 AM
i am simultaneously proud and frightened.

Danical
10-09-2008, 12:57 AM
You ask Keplar about getting promoted to your next rank in General Alchemy.

Keplar completes the promotion ritual and says, "Congratulations, Rimalon, for mastering this skill!"

Took me 16 days.

SC?

Renian
10-09-2008, 11:35 AM
Survival...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101

There. Now I can skin War Griffins and not lose potential XP/BPs for not doing the tasks.

Allereli
10-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Survival...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101

There. Now I can skin War Griffins and not lose potential XP/BPs for not doing the tasks.

Nice, I'm jealous

Danical
10-09-2008, 03:29 PM
I've finished 1x MIU . . . 1.5m exp for Dodge.

Armor Use..........................| 190 90
Shield Use.........................| 302 202
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101
Edged Weapons......................| 302 202
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 105 25
Physical Fitness...................| 302 202
Magic Item Use.....................| 201 101
Harness Power......................| 302 202
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24
Mental Mana Control................| 102 24
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 201 101
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 175 75
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 108 26
Survival...........................| 201 101
Perception.........................| 201 101
Climbing...........................| 140 40
Swimming...........................| 201 101
First Aid..........................| 201 101
Trading............................| 292 192

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 75

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 127

Danical
10-17-2008, 06:19 PM
I've decided once again to change my build; I don't need dodge because DS is never a problem.

I could start the long hard road of 2x CM @ 32 PTPs per rank or 26666.66 exp.

OR

2x MIU for super long durations on my 508/120 rods @ 16 PTPs per rank or 13333.33 exp.

Essentially, I could get 50 ranks of CM or 100 ranks of MIU.

THOUGHTS?

Methais
10-17-2008, 06:46 PM
Do a barrel roll.

Danical
10-17-2008, 06:51 PM
http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/barrel-roll.jpg

Swami71
10-17-2008, 07:02 PM
I'd go for CM's

120/508 rods are easy to come by

AestheticDeath
10-17-2008, 07:04 PM
So you can still imbed 120? For some reason I thought you couldn't.

Swami71
10-17-2008, 07:08 PM
I did a month or two ago. Its harder. I think I can only do 3 charges in a rod and be reasonably successful.

Danical
10-17-2008, 07:25 PM
Yeah, 3 charges is pretty much tops for 120. I have like a 1 in 10 chance when trying to put 4 charges in the rod.

I just fucking wish they would update the FORAGE verb so you could "FORAGE for <type> stick." That way I could put specific spells in specific descriptors rods since there isn't a RUMAMGE verb for magic items.

Rimalon
10-19-2008, 01:50 AM
Spell Aiming.......................| 352 252

Clasp: +4
Bracer: +5
Runestaff: +3
Ring #1: +6
Ring #2: +3
Arm greaves: +3
Leg greaves: +5
Skullcap: +5
Aventail: +2
Badge: +10
Earring: +4

=Winnar!

Kitsun
10-19-2008, 02:49 AM
Holy tap dancing jesus that rocks. How much does all that crap weigh? 16lbs or so? Running a wear/remove script pre/post hunt must be kinda obnoxious.

thefarmer
10-19-2008, 05:03 AM
The weight/time wouldn't bother me, it'd be keeping those damn things charged (especially the crumbly ones).

Swami71
10-19-2008, 11:35 AM
Yeah, 3 charges is pretty much tops for 120. I have like a 1 in 10 chance when trying to put 4 charges in the rod.

I just fucking wish they would update the FORAGE verb so you could "FORAGE for <type> stick." That way I could put specific spells in specific descriptors rods since there isn't a RUMAMGE verb for magic items.

219 scrolls.....best TD spell in the game BTW...and it has a really long duration

Swami71
10-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Spell Aiming.......................| 352 252

Clasp: +4
Bracer: +5
Runestaff: +3
Ring #1: +6
Ring #2: +3
Arm greaves: +3
Leg greaves: +5
Skullcap: +5
Aventail: +2
Badge: +10
Earring: +4

=Winnar!

Now you need to max out your DEX

Garnet Doyle
10-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Yeah, 3 charges is pretty much tops for 120. I have like a 1 in 10 chance when trying to put 4 charges in the rod.


Don't the alchemist made ones have like 20 or 30 charges?

Swami71
10-19-2008, 01:47 PM
Don't the alchemist made ones have like 20 or 30 charges?

That can't be. That would mean theres something useful in alchemy.

Danical
10-19-2008, 02:37 PM
I seriously doubt 20-30 charge 120 items can be bought over the counter.

Rimalon
10-20-2008, 01:19 AM
How much does all that crap weigh? 16lbs or so? Running a wear/remove script pre/post hunt must be kinda obnoxious.

Yeah, weighs 17 lbs all together, and it's mainly from the arm/leg greaves. Definitely going to try to lighten 'em at EG.

I also don't wear everything every hunt... only if I feel lucky and go hunt Nelemar 2nd floor, or an invasion, etc.

But! I'm confident in saying that I can achieve the highest Bolt AS in the game, now... and that's... something? RIGHT?!?! FUCK I NEED ANOTHER HOBBY.

Danical
10-20-2008, 02:06 AM
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_135/117524536035x1f5.jpg

waywardgs
10-20-2008, 02:29 AM
But! I'm confident in saying that I can achieve the highest Bolt AS in the game, now... and that's... something? RIGHT?!?! FUCK I NEED ANOTHER HOBBY.

haha... too funny.

Danical
11-07-2008, 05:30 PM
Experience: 18000013

Kitsun
11-07-2008, 05:35 PM
Wizard: Experience: 15034455
Cleric: Experience: 15000628

Essentially double-cap. Considering how long I've wanted to hit this point, I'm a bit perturbed that doing so has caused me to experience so little joy. I'm going to blame EG giving me a dagger bandolier so I'm looking at trying to get my rogue 600/300 instead of runnng up random PT sinks and more spells.

The Ponzzz
11-07-2008, 05:39 PM
Man, post cap goals are going to KILL me.

Kitsun
11-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Post-cap kills everyone! Seriously, once you get past the easy skills, no matter how hard you grind you hit a point where you spend a week or two getting 10 ranks in something silly like going to 3x HP.

Although having 440 mana is something sexy in itself.

Stretch
11-07-2008, 05:53 PM
In the skill of forging - crafting, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - two handed weapons, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - pole arms, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of fletching, you are a master with 500 ranks.

You are a Grandmaster of the Rogue Guild.

You currently have 372 ranks out of a possible 372 for your training.

You are a Master of Sweep.
You are a Master of Subdue.
You are a Master of Stun Maneuvers.
You are a Master of Lock Mastery.
You are a Master of Cheap Shot.
You are a Master of Rogue Gambits.

Experience: 13300006

Kitsun
11-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Make me some perfect mauls and lances!

Stretch
11-08-2008, 12:48 AM
I've spent 700k on slabs and no hammer yet :(

thefarmer
11-08-2008, 12:53 AM
Make me some perfect mauls and lances!

Boo.

I've just got an elegant and superior rolaren maul, and an elegant golvern lance.

Kitsun
11-08-2008, 12:53 AM
I'm not well versed in forging mechanics. No perfect forging hammer?

I've got the lance and maul glyphs even though I don't know how to use em!

Rimalon
11-14-2008, 01:33 AM
Experience: 10000002

...Harness power to 2x is pissing me off.

Experience: 11000014

...Harness power to 2x is still pissing me off.

Rimalon
11-14-2008, 01:50 AM
And it seems to take me 3 months to get 1 mil experience. Is that good or bad?

The Ponzzz
11-14-2008, 03:05 AM
I'd say that's good. You figure at that pace, you could cap in just under 2 years from 0-100.

Renian
11-14-2008, 03:56 AM
And it seems to take me 3 months to get 1 mil experience. Is that good or bad?

It's decent. Unless you're scripting it. Then you're doing it wrong, as you should be running the script for more time than you are.

Stretch
11-14-2008, 08:05 AM
In the skill of forging - crafting, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - one handed blunt, you are an apprentice with 108 ranks.
In the skill of forging - two handed weapons, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - pole arms, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of forging - brawling weapons, you are a master with 500 ranks.
In the skill of fletching, you are a master with 500 ranks.


You can't learn any further until you've selected an unlearning preference. If you need assistance in setting a new one, please type ARTISAN UNLEARN HELP.
While you might have learned, something is preventing you from advancing further.

wtf? I thought there wasn't a cap on artisan shit anymore

EDIT: Nevermind, got my answer :(

The exception to the 1200 rank limit is forging. Because crafting and the weapon types are different skills, all of which are intrinsically combined, players can master either ALL of the ranks within forging (Crafting, Brawling, One-Handed Edged, One-Handed Blunt, Pole Arms, and Two-Handed Weapons) at the expense of 1000 of their ranks, or instead, learn Crafting and any two weapon types at the expense of 500 of their allotted 1200 ranks. The remaining ranks can be used to test other skills or however the player sees fit.

droit
11-14-2008, 05:40 PM
Spiritual Lore - Blessings.........| 93 21 21
Spiritual Lore - Summoning.........| 180 80 80

Next up, MoC.