Liannonuel/Andraste/Ghrim, etc conflict

[Warriorbird]

I have to really take a step back and thank a few people for some great RP lately.

Where do I start?!

Lanielle you have involved Telsas in a great plot. Thanks bunches! I have no clue why or how or even what the hell to do, but Thanks bunches and great work.

Linthral . . . a few times in the past has encountered Telsas and debated with intelligence. The last meeting of minds was wonderful and the set up for the stage to be played out with the Palestra has me looking forward to each new turn.

People of the Moonshine Manor. . .
OYI Thanks for letting me drag you in and pushing me out. I never know what is going to happen but I am finding that no matter what it is, It is worth going back for more.

People of the Garden Niche. . .
YOU Know who you are!! Mostly, always willing to listen to her ramblings and help out with spells and give Telsas the support she needed when she could not ask for it.

Liannonuel, I am going to throw you in to for the heck of it. Your ego is big enough that I find it more fun not telling you or anyone else reading this why.

Marclar and his bride. . . Oh my!! That really was . . . fun and threw Telsas for a big loop, Thanks.

I could probably go on with a bunch of names and situations, but I think some things are just best left unsaid.

Thanks again to one and all from a new addict to GS.
One year ends the newbie title right? Getting close !!


Liannonuel roleplays? Glad at least someone gets that from him.

[StrayRogue]

Most likely when Jamus isn't controlling him. Or when he's not being blown by Andraste and her PC.

[Warriorbird]

I hadn't known that Jamus played him. Somebody clued me in earlier. Explains a fair bit.

[Makkah]

>(OOC) You quietly whisper to Grhim, "It's rhett... fuck him up."
>

SEND[Andraste] One... let's not share OOC information as a reason for PvP, and two, let's stay out of conflicts that didn't just start with you, thanks :-)

[Rokkyu]

[Crimson Crocus Table]
Three bright blue bowls on the table contrast sharply with the crimson crocuses blooming in them. The combination of the thick, light green leaves and red blossoms against the ceramic pottery is very eye-catching. You also see a plain monir strongbox, the Abysso disk, the Meril disk, the Berkana disk, a plain fel strongbox, a dented brass strongbox, a scratched monir box, a badly damaged fel chest, an enruned brass coffer, a sturdy iron chest, an enruned brass trunk, a metal wand, a twisted wand, a pale thanot wand, a metal wand, a silver wand, a polished bloodwood wand, a smooth bone wand, a slender blue wand, a twisted wand, a pale thanot wand, an iron-bound fel chest, a sturdy haon box, a simple tanik strongbox, an engraved iron box, a plain tanik strongbox, an enruned tanik strongbox, a moth-eaten hide pack, a weathered haon trunk, an iron-bound haon chest, a badly damaged silver box, a scratched iron strongbox, a rose-marrow potion, a rose-marrow potion, a heavy quartz orb, an engraved iron chest, a rotting fel chest, a simple monir trunk and an engraved mithril strongbox.
Also here: Liannonuel, Great Lord Virdigo, Abysso, Meril, Great Lady Berkana, Lord Edible
Obvious exits: out
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Liannonuel/Jamus apparently uses Berkana/Andraste GM powers, and is part of Jamus MA army.

[Warriorbird]

Composer's little army is Jamus's?

Still...kind of an interesting connection. I wouldn't say that necessarily means that Jamus uses Andraste...but it's bad form to be riding herd over the PVP conflicts of friends.

[Dropped_In]

Liannonuel isn't played by Jamus...

[Warriorbird]

The person said that he was played by two folks...Jamus being one and Colosie? being the other.

The more interesting thing was seeing Andraste watching over his PVP conflicts and then hanging out with him...whoever he is.

[The Ponzzz]

That is an interesting sight...

[Valindel]

Liannonuel/Jamus apparently uses Berkana/Andraste GM powers, and is part of Jamus MA army.

WRONG.

[Dropped_In]

Heh. His player lies kind of compulsively. I wouldn't get too caught up on it.

[unconcerned1]

Most likely when Jamus isn't controlling him. Or when he's not being blown by Andraste and her PC.

You douchebag, lol. No one's ever played Lian except.. me.

[Caede]

I don't know where most of this Liannonuel/Jamus/Andraste/Composer stuff is coming from, but if I had any doubts as to Ghrim's credibility they've definitely been clarified.

He is a fucking loon.

EDIT just to add: Liannonuel != Jamus != Andraste != Composer. I'm not even sure how someone makes those connections?

[Makkah]

There is a plethora of shadiness going on in this thread. Kudos to all!

[DCSL]

i'll guarantee that lian is not jamus and that he doesn't ma. anything other than that is beyond my knowledge.

[Warriorbird]

Or alternately he's sort of caught onto something for once and people that rarely post want to come in and cover for people.

[Warriorbird]

To repeat:

The more interesting thing was seeing Andraste watching over his PVP conflicts and then hanging out with him...whoever he is.

EDIT:

"EDIT just to add: Liannonuel != Jamus != Andraste != Composer. I'm not even sure how someone makes those connections?"

Them sitting at a table together after a PVP conflict?

[JamusPsi]

I do MA. I have a level 15 cleric and a level 27 wizard named Cancel.

I am not Lian and in fact I think I've killed him (and been killed by him) a few times over god knows what. I'm certainly not Andraste, who pulls me regularly to chastise me over whatever, and I don't have any influence over her either.

You people are high.

[unconcerned1]

To repeat:

The more interesting thing was seeing Andraste watching over his PVP conflicts and then hanging out with him...whoever he is.

My PvP conflict consisted of Ghrim ambushing Lian.. and Lian having him jailed. I don't bring my friends into my problems.

[Valindel]

I'm not even sure how someone makes those connections?

Idiocy plays a strong role :D

[Warriorbird]

"My PvP conflict consisted of Ghrim ambushing Lian.. and Lian having him jailed. I don't bring my friends into my problems."

Maybe she just decided to bring herself in then. She still shouldn't be dealing with your PVP issues if you're her friend.

EDIT:

From an entirely different friend than the first:
[17:48] some girl: Lol@ The PC thread
[17:48] some girl: Liannonuel does MA
[17:48] some girl: Shows what Dex knows

[DCSL]

i know more than some girl. and she can kiss my ass.

[unconcerned1]

"My PvP conflict consisted of Ghrim ambushing Lian.. and Lian having him jailed. I don't bring my friends into my problems."

Maybe she just decided to bring herself in then. She still shouldn't be dealing with your PVP issues if you're her friend.

EDIT:

From an entirely different friend than the first:
[17:48] some girl: Lol@ The PC thread
[17:48] some girl: Liannonuel does MA
[17:48] some girl: Shows what Dex knows


Not my problem. And the only account I own is Lian's.

And some girl can blow me. I used to have access to a friend's accounts. I don't anymore. And that was a few years ago.

Not that I agree with it, but can't Jamus look up IPs via PSinet?

[Kainen]

Liannonuel/Jamus apparently uses Berkana/Andraste GM powers, and is part of Jamus MA army.

Are you fucking kidding me? That's the funniest thing I have read all day!

[Valindel]

"My PvP conflict consisted of Ghrim ambushing Lian.. and Lian having him jailed. I don't bring my friends into my problems."

Maybe she just decided to bring herself in then. She still shouldn't be dealing with your PVP issues if you're her friend.

EDIT:

From an entirely different friend than the first:
[17:48] some girl: Lol@ The PC thread
[17:48] some girl: Liannonuel does MA
[17:48] some girl: Shows what Dex knows

What makes this girl an expert on what others are doing? How does she know, what evidence is there to provide? That's an absolute flimsy statement if I've ever seen one. 'Some girl' :o - not much to even substantiate that this is real let alone credible.

[Warriorbird]

Kinda funny. Given Liannonuel's slaugher and run PVP "RP" tendencies she asked that I not say.

[unconcerned1]

Kinda funny. Given Liannonuel's slaugher and run PVP "RP" tendencies she asked that I not say.

lol

I'll vouch for the slaughtering part, don't know much about running.

[Valindel]

So we're supposed to believe this mystery person is even a credible source, for something that just as easily have been made up? Give me a fucking break, that is the lamest thing I've heard in a while. If your 'friend' (if she exists) has something to say, at least put her name to it, instead of hiding and trying to make unsubstantiated claims.

[Warriorbird]

You have 8 posts. How do we know you even exist?

[JamusPsi]

Not that I agree with it, but can't Jamus look up IPs via PSinet?

Considering that I'm apparently supposed to be you, I'm not sure my vouching for you would get the response you're thinking.

Not that any of this makes sense anyway.

On a related note, as I read more, I have it on fairly good authority that contrary to rumor, Berkana is not Andraste anyway. The whole story is pulled out of someone's ass.

Reminds me of Keraa and her tendency to assert that everyone that doesn't like her must be the same single person, and that therefore I am also Toy, Thaisis, and Talantris, among some dozen others.

[Makkah]

So we're supposed to believe this mystery person is even a credible source, for something that just as easily have been made up? Give me a fucking break, that is the lamest thing I've heard in a while. If your 'friend' (if she exists) has something to say, at least put her name to it, instead of hiding and trying to make unsubstantiated claims.

I don't think he was begging you to believe anything. It was probably posted for those of us that are fucking rolling over this thread. "I'll vouch for the slaughtering..." too awesome.

[Dropped_In]

Yes, and smoke a cigarette while doing it. Err, give him a cigarette.

[Valindel]

You have 8 posts. How do we know you even exist?

I can at least put a character to my name - Valindel. You put up a source as supposed evidence, I tore it down. If you cannot defend what you put up, just try to turn around the attack, right?

He doesn't have to be 'begging' for people to believe anything - but shitty testimony by a supposed person (who as of yet, is of questionable origin) without any supporting evidence is rather suspect, no?

[unconcerned1]

I don't think he was begging you to believe anything. It was probably posted for those of us that are fucking rolling over this thread. "I'll vouch for the slaughtering..." too awesome.

Sweet. I'm the thread of the month.

[Warriorbird]

I know from her own words some of those that Andraste plays, Jamus, so nice try.

As I said...her being Liannonuel's friend and dealing with his PVP was the only thing that I took serious issue with. That was the only credibly problematic thing Grhim stumbled over.

The rest is just amusing.

"He doesn't have to be 'begging' for people to believe anything - but shitty testimony by a supposed person (who as of yet, is of questionable origin) without any supporting evidence is rather suspect, no?"

So...how exactly can I prove this without outting her?

[Kainen]

Reminds me of Keraa and her tendency to assert that everyone that doesn't like her must be the same single person, and that therefore I am also Toy, Thaisis, and Talantris, among some dozen others.

I must be losing my touch.. I was Toy as well.. but I guess I am not good enough to be you, Jamus *le crie* ROFL

[unconcerned1]

I know from her own words some of those that Andraste plays, Jamus, so nice try.

As I said...her being Liannonuel's friend and dealing with his PVP was the only thing that I took serious issue with.

The rest is just amusing.

As much was admitted to me after this came out. News to me. And I don't really care.

And it's CvC. thx

[Warriorbird]

:smirks: "And it's CvC. thx"

Says the man who couldn't even really explain why he was attacking one of my characters.

[unconcerned1]

:smirks: "And it's CvC. thx"

Says the man who couldn't even really explain why he was attacking one of my characters.

Who's your character? I'll dig up the log.

[Valindel]

"He doesn't have to be 'begging' for people to believe anything - but shitty testimony by a supposed person (who as of yet, is of questionable origin) without any supporting evidence is rather suspect, no?"

So...how exactly can I prove this without outting her?

Tell her to have the decency to at least put herself to her statement, or to provide evidence as to the reality of it. If she even signs herself to the statement, it's something. If she does neither, it's worthless - where it stands now.

She wants to make unbased attacks on other people, yet won't even sign herself to her own words? I'm thinking of a word to describe that, can you guess what it is? ;)

[Warriorbird]

Well...when you've got a person who throws guild skills around at people who he's just having a friendly conversation with I could understand someone being a bit edgy. I'm not emotionally invested in any of this enough to care.

[Valindel]

'I'm Bart Simpson, who the hell are you?'

[unconcerned1]

Tell her to have the decency to at least put herself to her statement, or to provide evidence as to the reality of it. If she even signs herself to the statement, it's something. If she does neither, it's worthless - where it stands now.

She wants to make unbased attacks on other people, yet won't even sign herself to her own words? I'm thinking of a word to describe that, can you guess what it is? ;)

Guy, it's okay. I don't care. I had access to a friend's accounts, it's not a big deal. I haven't since Lian was in his mid 50's.. I don't know, maybe a year or two?

[Makkah]

She wants to make unbased attacks on other people, yet won't even sign herself to her own words?

Just because she won't out herself doesn't make the statement "unbased" technically. It doesn't make it based either, per-se. Just sayin. You all keep trying to put your own spin on things. It's cute.

[Valindel]

Just because she won't out herself doesn't make the statement "unbased" technically. It doesn't make it based either, per-se. Just sayin. You all keep trying to put your own spin on things. It's cute.

It's unbased because it's unsupported, nor validated. No name, no evidence, nothing. Just 'someones' testimony (who shall of course, remain handle-less - this is the internet after all) that something occured. Unbased may be a bit strong a word, as it hasn't been disproven, but there's zero reason to believe it is true. How can you disprove someone who won't even say who they are?

EDIT: I'm done here. It's obvious that warriorbird is unable to support what he/she posts, nor does it seem to even be within his/her abilities to form a coherent argument :).

[unconcerned1]

I know from her own words some of those that Andraste plays, Jamus, so nice try.

As I said...her being Liannonuel's friend and dealing with his PVP was the only thing that I took serious issue with. That was the only credibly problematic thing Grhim stumbled over.

The rest is just amusing.

"He doesn't have to be 'begging' for people to believe anything - but shitty testimony by a supposed person (who as of yet, is of questionable origin) without any supporting evidence is rather suspect, no?"

So...how exactly can I prove this without outting her?


Heh. Jacinto. Still butthurt about that vial to the face?

And the 'abusing guild skills' shit? I was showing the novice what warcries do. Blow me Conan, heh.

[Warriorbird]

I'm mainly sort of sad I didn't go through with my initial assist on your little driveby. What with Andraste covering for you though, I doubt it would've done much. Policy will catch you eventually. Out of respect for someone hurting I'm not going further into this. Believe me...I have some pretty intense confirmation...at least for the Andraste portion of this.

[Xandalf]

This is rapidly turning into my favorite thread EVER.

[JamusPsi]

I'm not totally familiar with the situation, but I've never seen Andraste show any kind of bias in doing her job. If she got involved, they probably deserved it. I know I always have.

[SPENCER71]

Dude...it's a fucking game...relax. Why do people always gotta get so uptight over stupid shit? You got people saying other people are playing this person or that...and they ain't. It's all a big rosey crock of shit, but whatever. Man. Lick your wounds and get over yourself already. If you can't do that, then gimme some of whatever the fuck it is you're smoking for lunch so that maybe I can understand where you're coming from. Don't like this reply? I play Arium, Gustavius, and Nightshades in the game. All played by ME...Scott...not anyone else. Anyway, now you know who i am in the game. Don't like what I say? Come kick my ass. Think I'll give a fuck?

[unconcerned1]

I'm mainly sort of sad I didn't go through with my initial assist on your little driveby. What with Andraste covering for you though, I doubt it would've done much. Policy will catch you eventually. Out of respect for someone hurting I'm not going further into this. Believe me...I have some pretty intense confirmation...at least for the Andraste portion of this.

Assist away man, no one's 'protecting' my character.

[Warriorbird]

"I'm not totally familiar with the situation, but I've never seen Andraste show any kind of bias in doing her job. If she got involved, they probably deserved it. I know I always have."

I hadn't until now.

"Assist away man, no one's 'protecting' my character."

:smirks: Actually, I didn't go through with that assist because somebody ELSE asked me not to. No point now.

[unconcerned1]

:smirks: "And it's CvC. thx"

Says the man who couldn't even really explain why he was attacking one of my characters.

Your character got attacked because he kissed, then killed, Lian's at-the-time fiance or whatever. But you knew that.

I can't believe you're still crying about a vial.

[unconcerned1]

I'm not totally familiar with the situation, but I've never seen Andraste show any kind of bias in doing her job. If she got involved, they probably deserved it. I know I always have.

I'll post the whole log when I get back, no sweat off my back. But I ain't editing that shit.

[Warriorbird]

"Your character got attacked because he kissed, then killed, Lian's at-the-time fiance or whatever. But you knew that.

I can't believe you're still crying about a vial."

Seven months later. After they'd broken up. With no interaction. Yeah. Riiight.

[unconcerned1]

Seven months later. After they'd broken up. With no interaction. Yeah. Riiight.[/QUOTE]

Hadn't seen Jacinto in that long. And it was more like two months, heh.

[Warriorbird]

October? 5 I guess. Whatever. That isn't even really what's got me actually upset, if anything, it's the other thing you did... and that you'd be still doing the same BS months later...with not the slightest grasp of policy and a friendly GM backing you up.

[Fallen]

And there it is. The reason for all this hostility.


Berkana is Andraste, BTW

[Parkbandit]

I'm not totally familiar with the situation, but I've never seen Andraste show any kind of bias in doing her job. If she got involved, they probably deserved it. I know I always have.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAaaaaaaa1111!!!!

Best line of bullshit ever. Andraste has always shown bias and has always involved herself in things that do not concern her. You fuck with one of her pets or one of her characters and she will send you a nice tell. If a roleplay is not going her way, she will send you a tell, telling you to knock it off.

She's one of those GMs that should never have been a GM.

[Liberi Fatali]

This is rapidly turning into my favorite thread EVER.

You back-stabbing son of a bitch! You confessed your love and favourite thread comment in MY mass killing thread a mere week ago. I see where your loyalty is.

[Bobmuhthol]

I'll also confirm that Andraste is, in fact, very biased.

I never thought I'd become one of these people, but... man, I'm glad I quit GS after reading shit like this.

[Tolwynn]

You back-stabbing son of a bitch! You confessed your love and favourite thread comment in MY mass killing thread a mere week ago. I see where your loyalty is.

Like with many other internet relationships, that one picture can change everything.

[Liberi Fatali]

Like with many other internet relationships, that one picture can change everything.

What the. Was this in jest? You do realise that we're both male, right? Are you implying that I am one of those homosexual types? Are you referring to my enticing boxing picture? AM I BEING OBTUSE, OR MERELY A CLEVER-TROUSERS?

[Skeeter]

Like with many other internet relationships, that one picture can change everything.

best line ever. :foshizzle:

[Rokkyu]

Wow there is so much garbage here since I posted that.

I don't think it is right for a GM to be using their GM powers to referee a conflict WHILE on their PC. I really think they shouldn't be listening to whispers in the first place, but while on their PC?

Then after Liannonnueal or whatever his name is comes into the gemshop, and spits on me. I of course use a locate scroll and see him sitting there with Berkana and all of his other characters!

I may not have known who liannonnueal was exactly, since I was just taking another friends word for it, BUT Berkana was there in both situations, and on the first she actually walked in later before reprimanding Makkah.

[Rokkyu]

I>
[Upper Trollfang]
This is the western end of a badly overgrown and neglected road. Small piles of paving stones can be seen nearby, but the large amount of weeds that cover them indicate to you that they have not been moved in quite some time. You also see a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk and a young half-elven child.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: east, northwest
I>

that's my familiar, apparently she helps with escorts too!

[Rokkyu]

Apparently Berkana also assists in Liannonuels cvc battles.


You are visible again.
You gesture at Liannonuel.
You hurl a powerful lightning bolt at Liannonuel!
AS: +478 vs DS: +509 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +87 = +89
A clean miss.
The guiding force leaves you.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>
Berkana gestures.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards Berkana.
CS: +344 - TD: +314 + CvA: +12 + d100: +23 - -5 == +70
Warded off!
Berkana avoids the webbing.
>stance def
Liannonuel glares at you and lets out a nerve-shattering bellow!
You are startled enough to lose initiative!
Roundtime: 20 sec.
R>
...wait 19 seconds.
R>s
...wait 19 seconds.
R>l
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
R>
Liannonuel starts chortling at you!
R>
Liannonuel asks, "Are you foolish?"
R>l
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
R>
Berkana shakes her head.
R>
Liannonuel asks, "Truly?"
R>
Your SIGN OF MADNESS is no longer effective.
You feel drained!
R>l
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
R>
Berkana says, "Apparently."
R>yawn
You yawn.
R>
Liannonuel says, "Feh."
R>
Liannonuel gracefully pulls a vultite handaxe from his harness.
R>
A quick flick of Liannonuel's wrist sends a vultite handaxe into flight!
Liannonuel throws a vultite handaxe at you!
AS: +472 vs DS: +236 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +82 = +349
A layer of shifting stone shatters!
... and hits for 125 points of damage!
Incredible blast shatters your head into a red spray.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around you.
The buzz of thoughts in your mind subsides.
Your SIGN OF DISSIPATION is no longer effective.
The bright luminescence fades from around you.
The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
The deep blue glow leaves you.
The light blue glow leaves you.
Your SIGN OF SHIELDS is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF STRIKING is no longer effective.
You become solid again.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around you.
Your SIGN OF SMITING is no longer effective.
You no longer bristle with energy.
You feel your extra strength departing.
You feel your extra magical awareness leave you.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding you suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
Your SIGN OF SWORDS is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF WARDING is no longer effective.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves you.
Your SIGN OF DEFLECTION is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF DEFENDING is no longer effective.
You feel less confident than before.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 10 mins...
The vultite handaxe is deflected to one side, sailing to the ground.
DEAD>
* Grhim just bit the dust!
DEAD>
Berkana shakes her head.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Truly a foolish move on your part."
DEAD>
Liannonuel kicks some dirt on your corpse.
DEAD>
The grey owl circles lazily above.
DEAD>
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
DEAD>
* Idkraknor just bit the dust!
DEAD>say That helps with what I was hoping to see.
>l
DEAD>
You say, "That helps with what I was hoping to see."
DEAD>
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see a vultite handaxe, the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
DEAD>
A cloud of dense silvery fog suddenly appears. The fog quickly dissipates to reveal Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn looks thoughtfully at Liannonuel.
DEAD>
Liannonuel shrugs at Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn asks, "Now what did ye do?"
DEAD>
Berkana grins at Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn flails her arms about.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "He took a swing."
DEAD>group open
Your group status is now open.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn sighs.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "I took one back."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "So he swung back."
DEAD>
Suddenly you have the strangest feeling that you are being watched.
The feeling fades as quickly as it came.
DEAD>
Liannonuel glances at you.
DEAD>say Oh, Berkana is assisting in others conflicts
You say, "Oh, Berkana is assisting in others conflicts."
DEAD>
Berkana nods to Kaelowyn.
DEAD>l
DEAD>
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see the Kaelowyn disk, a vultite handaxe, the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Kaelowyn, Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Like I need her help."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "Actually I did nothing'."
DEAD>
Berkana grins.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn gazes up into the heavens.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Indeed."
DEAD>say Ah, you webbed me.
You say, "Ah, you webbed me."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "Actually, no, I missed."
DEAD>
Berkana chuckles.
DEAD>
Liannonuel removes some cactacae spine from in his suede envelope pouch.
DEAD>
Liannonuel takes a bite of his cactacae spine.
Liannonuel's left arm looks better.
DEAD>whisper berkana I'll be assisting, and reporting.
You quietly whisper to Berkana, "I'll be assisting, and reporting."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "And I had that prepped for the creatures plaguing the child he was leading out."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "You do that."
DEAD>whisper berkana You want to answer me on Andraste?
You quietly whisper to Berkana, "You want to answer me on Andraste?"
DEAD>l
[Hearthstone, Courtyard]
Before you stands a grand old manor, framed by huge willows to the east and west. The elegant trees sway gently in the moonlight, dappling the cobblestone courtyard with ever-shifting patterns of light and dark. Snippets of conversation drift away from the long porch stretching along the full width of the great old house, as several guests enjoy the hospitality and ambience of this fine hideaway. You also see the Kaelowyn disk, a vultite handaxe, the Liannonuel disk, a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk, a hollow tree stump and the porch steps.
Also here: Kaelowyn, Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: south
DEAD>
Berkana nods to you.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "No need to explain yourself."
DEAD>
Liannonuel put some cactacae spine in his suede envelope pouch.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn asks, "So.. am I needed?"
DEAD>
Kaelowyn shifts her weight.
DEAD>
Berkana shrugs.
DEAD>
Liannonuel grins at Kaelowyn.
DEAD>say Yes.
You say, "Yes."
DEAD>
The grey owl circles lazily above.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Someone has to put his head back on his shoulders."
DEAD>
Liannonuel begins chortling at Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn whispers something to Liannonuel.
DEAD>
The vultite handaxe dissolves into vapor.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn grins at Liannonuel.
DEAD>
Liannonuel agrees with Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn raises a hand while murmuring a soft orison...
DEAD>
Kaelowyn gestures at you.
A silvery translucent thread extends from Kaelowyn encompassing you. You sense the comfort of salvation, and the cackle of a jackal echoes in your skull.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn nods to you.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "I haven't gone looking for him yet, I'm not about to start."
DEAD>
Liannonuel rummages through a long black leather coat with back-turned silver cuffs, but comes up empty-handed.
DEAD>
Liannonuel just closed a long black leather coat with back-turned silver cuffs.
DEAD>
Liannonuel grumbles.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Adrenal surge'd be nice."
DEAD>
Kaelowyn says, "Behave yerself til the link breaks."
DEAD>report I don't know if there is another GM on but Berkana just interfered in a CvC conflict she was not involved in whatsoever.
REPORT should only be used to notify the GemStone IV staff of emergency situations or gamewide technical errors. Please use ASSIST for general support.


Message sent to all online game staff. While no staff members are currently on duty, there are likely to be several lurking behind the scenes to investigate your report. If you feel the need to speak with the staff, please type ASSIST for a list of options.

DEAD>
Kaelowyn nods to you.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "I'll use non lethal force."
DEAD>
A colorful flare rises into the air high above the town of Wehnimer's Landing.
DEAD>
Liannonuel glances at Kaelowyn.
DEAD>
Liannonuel places a hand over his heart.
DEAD>
Kaelowyn stares at Liannonuel.
DEAD>
The grey owl circles lazily above.
DEAD>
Liannonuel says, "Bind him or something, if I'm forced."
DEAD>

[unconcerned1]

I>
[Upper Trollfang]
This is the western end of a badly overgrown and neglected road. Small piles of paving stones can be seen nearby, but the large amount of weeds that cover them indicate to you that they have not been moved in quite some time. You also see a ruffled grey owl that is flying around, the Berkana disk and a young half-elven child.
Also here: Great Lady Berkana, Liannonuel
Obvious paths: east, northwest
I>


that's my familiar, apparently she helps with escorts too!

Don't know what makes you think I'd need any help, heh. But alright.


Grhim suddenly fades into view.
Grhim gestures at you.
Grhim hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +478 vs DS: +509 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +87 = +89
A clean miss.
The guiding force leaves Grhim.
>warcry cry gh
Warcry at what?
>bellow gr
Berkana gestures.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards Berkana.
CS: +344 - TD: +314 + CvA: +12 + d100: +23 - -5 == +70
Warded off!
Berkana avoids the webbing.
>
You glare at Grhim and let out a nerve-shattering bellow!
Grhim is startled enough to lose initiative!

Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>chortle gr
>
You chortle at Grhim.
>'are you foolish?
>
You ask, "Are you foolish?"
>
Berkana shakes her head.
>'truly?
You ask, "Truly?"
>l gr
You see Grhim Anyukal the Mage.
He appears to be a Faendryl Dark Elf.
He appears to be venerable. He has crazed, gold-tinted eyes and pale skin. He has long, unkempt white hair that is knotted in many places and ripped shorter in others. He has deeply sunken cheekbones. Jagged silver canines can be glimpsed briefly between his lips.
He is in good shape.
He is holding a suede-gripped greyed orase runestaff in his right hand.
He is wearing a three-orbed black ora talisman, an ominous night-black onyx jackal symbol inset with eerie ruby eyes suspended from a fine black ora chain, a thinly-blown crimson glass vial capped with a small silver jackal, a black leather hooded cloak, some silver-insigiled ebon silk casting gloves, an onyx-inlaid vruul skin thigh-sheath lined with crimson velvet, some golden veniom aishan cufflinks, a translucent spidersilk backpack, some ancient black ritual vestments, a rune-stitched Faendryl bag, some silver-buttoned supple black leather pants, and a pair of vaalin-trimmed boots.
>
Berkana says, "Apparently."
>
Grhim yawns.
>'feh
You say, "Feh."
>h gr head
You pull a vultite handaxe gracefully from your harness.
>
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
You cannot attack the eahnor-bossed greatshield.
>h grh head
You need a free hand to pull one out.
>
You are now in an offensive stance.
>
With a quick flick of your wrist, you deftly send a vultite handaxe into flight.
You throw a vultite handaxe at Grhim!
AS: +472 vs DS: +236 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +82 = +349
A layer of shifting stone shatters!
... and hit for 125 points of damage!
Incredible blast shatters head into a red spray.

* Grhim drops dead at your feet!

The brilliant luminescence fades from around Grhim.
The bright luminescence fades from around Grhim.
The silvery luminescence fades from around Grhim.
The deep blue glow leaves Grhim.
The light blue glow leaves Grhim.
Grhim becomes solid again.
The shimmering multicolored sphere fades from around Grhim.
Grhim no longer bristles with energy.
Grhim seems a bit less imposing.
Grhim appears somehow different.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding Grhim suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
The tingling sensation and sense of security leaves Grhim.
Grhim glances around, looking a bit less confident.
The vultite handaxe is deflected to one side, sailing to the ground.
Roundtime: 4 sec.

[Warriorbird]

Oh boy.

[Rokkyu]

I think it looks cooler when you see all the spells going away from my perspective.






and the GM assisting in your conflict.

[Amaron]

How did she assist?

Looks to me like she cast at herself....



Berkana gestures.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards Berkana.
CS: +344 - TD: +314 + CvA: +12 + d100: +23 - -5 == +70
Warded off!
Berkana avoids the webbing.


Maybe I am reading it wrong. She did nothing to you at all.

J

[Makkah]

Yea...technically, she was too retarded to cast AT you. She didn't help at all.

[Warriorbird]

Right. She got saved from a policy violation and I imagine an even more grievous GM policy violation by a newbie's classic CVC mistake.

[Makkah]

Of course... to play Devil's advocate, we don't know that she was ACTUALLY trying to cast at him...

[Rokkyu]

I know she was too stupid to actually cast it properly, but the fact remains she's reprimanding rhett on her PC, and assist this guy, who started the CvC conflict by spitting on me.

[Snapp]

Of course... to play Devil's advocate, we don't know that she was ACTUALLY trying to cast at him...

You say, "Ah, you webbed me."
DEAD>
Berkana says, "Actually, no, I missed."
DEAD>
Berkana chuckles.



I don't care one way or another, but it looks like an admission of guilt, imo.

[Sean of the Thread]

Andraste is a dumb cunt.

[Dropped_In]

Clearly we are missing the control in the experiment. Someone now has to kill Ghrim randomly in front of Andraste. Then in front of Liannonuel. Then in front of strangers. We need quality control. Someone get to killing Ghrim, stat

[Sean of the Thread]

P.s. Jamus is a dumb cunt too.

[Stanley Burrell]

Andraste, according to Dio Cassius, was a Celtic goddess thanked by Boudica while fighting against the Roman occupation of Britain in AD 61. She is mentioned only once. She may be the same as Andante, mentioned later by the same source, and described as 'their name for Victory', i.e. the Goddess Victoria.

There.

The true meaning of which text-based userhandle = another text-based userhandle has been debunked once and for all.

And don't even try and front like you got sump'n on my main mang and informant Dio Cassius. That guy is straight up MythBusters in this vBulletin hizzy 4 sheez'. Holla at yo favorite knowledge dropping Roman scribe. You know how we do.

/thread?

[Warriorbird]

?

[Amaron]

scarey

[Rokkyu]

So khaladon tells me because she mistyped and cast at herself, she got away with it.

Basically GM's are allowed/encoured to answer reports, and listen to whispers or ANYTHING of people they're in the room with.

So pretty much if someone you know is a GM is on their PC be careful because they're definetely listening to you.

[Drew]

So pretty much if someone you know is a GM is on their PC be careful because they're definetely listening to you.



chat to [yourfriend] GMs can't listen to PSInet, only Jamus!

[Warriorbird]

No bias, of course. I'd complain if you ever have to deal with her regarding him.

[Vilewoman68]

So what if she was there, from what read she didn't do anything wrong.
She didn't assist other than almost webbing herself.
Jamus Is not Lian, who is not Composer, who is not Berkana.

[Methais]

I'm not totally familiar with the situation, but I've never seen Andraste show any kind of bias in doing her job. If she got involved, they probably deserved it. I know I always have.

LOL 99% of the things Andraste gets involved in are things she has no business sticking her nose into (and usually things that would have resolved on their own which she ends up making worse half the time).

I figured that would be common knowledge to just about anyone by now after all these years.

[Warriorbird]

"So what if she was there, from what read she didn't do anything wrong. "

Other than the conflict of interest in the earlier stuff, no, she didn't technically do anything wrong. Not on purpouse though.

[Methais]

Yea...technically, she was too retarded to cast AT you. She didn't help at all.

I'm guessing she went to e-wave or something and forgot she had web prepped. I know I've accidentally killed myself a bunch of times like that.

>prep 410
You already have a spell prepared!
>cast

<ME PWNING MYSELF>

* Methais was just incinerated!

[unconcerned1]

I'm guessing she went to e-wave or something and forgot she had web prepped. I know I've accidentally killed myself a bunch of times like that.

>prep 410
You already have a spell prepared!
>cast

<ME PWNING MYSELF>

* Methais was just incinerated!

She was trying to cast 109.

Berkana's slow as shit. I'll have an elder legged and beheaded, ready to loot it, before she even casts at it, most times. I had to teach her about INCANT, heh, so she could actually hit something once in awhile.

[Methais]

That sounds about right when it comes to your typical staff member's (lack of) knowledge about the game.

[Fallen]

That sounds about right when it comes to your typical staff member's (lack of) knowledge about the game. >>

Agreed. Many times I have had to explain the mechanics of a sorcerer spell when assisting over a specific aspect of it.

Booo.

[The Ponzzz]

Same goes with thrown and certain cman.

[Jolivette]

Heh, this is all pretty funny if you ask me.

I must say that I've known Andraste in many forms for many years now and personally have never seen her break policy nor "bend the rules" in any of those forms.

I dunno, I wasn't there and all but what struck me as whiney and paranoid was that here we have this CvC/PvP conflict and the guy that gets killed wants to assist over what the alledged GM's PC is doing. Interesting anyway. And please.. give her a break, she nearly webbed HERSELF.. truly classic and SO Berkana LOL.

As for Liannonuel, well... everytime Joli has met the guy, *she's* already dead, go figure.

Jolivette

[Shari]

Wow. I'm really loving all the new members to the PC just by this thread.

/sarcasm

[unconcerned1]

As for Liannonuel, well... everytime Joli has met the guy, *she's* already dead, go figure.

Jolivette[/QUOTE]

Nuh uh. They've met while she was alive. Once. ;D

[Warriorbird]

Me too Shari. Me too.

I'd never thought anything like this of Andraste before now, Jolivette, but after I posted what I did...I get more and more strange examples through IMs. Her being in the room and running interference for a close friend's PVP is real suspect. The failed attempt at helping him PVP isn't really cute, either. I hope that for her sake she reevaluates some things.

Given your own longtime association with her, Jolivette, it is probably sort of hard to see this sort of thing.

[Jolivette]

That's completely reasonable, of course! Given blatant evidence showing otherwise, I might think differently. In any case, I was not there.

This is also nothing new. I've seen the jabs over the years and nothing's come of it. I do know too, that because she is one of the more outspoken and colorful GMs, there has always been a lot of negative attention directed to her and as such, seems her every move is scrutinized. You'd think she would know better?

Jolivette



Me too Shari. Me too.

I'd never thought anything like this of Andraste before now, Jolivette, but after I posted what I did...I get more and more strange examples through IMs. Her being in the room and running interference for a close friend's PVP is real suspect. The failed attempt at helping him PVP isn't really cute, either. I hope that for her sake she reevaluates some things.

Given your own longtime association with her, Jolivette, it is probably sort of hard to see this sort of thing.

[Vilewoman68]

Another thought on the subject, Why can't a GM have a character involved in PvP? If you play a jerk, well your a jerk. If that jerk PvP's and whoops someone's arse, do you complain to the GMs? Not usually, but if it's a GM on a PC, then it's a big stink. I guess anyone who gets there arse kicked in PvP will find one way or another to whine about it. Some ppl are just sore losers ;)

[The Ponzzz]

Err wtf?

If a GM is clearly getting involved in PvP that does not involve them and breaking the very policy that exists, that's a problem.

[Rokkyu]

Another thought on the subject, Why can't a GM have a character involved in PvP? If you play a jerk, well your a jerk. If that jerk PvP's and whoops someone's arse, do you complain to the GMs? Not usually, but if it's a GM on a PC, then it's a big stink. I guess anyone who gets there arse kicked in PvP will find one way or another to whine about it. Some ppl are just sore losers ;)

It's because of the fact that she's involving herself in something that she shouldn't have. And really Liannonuel has at least 50 levels on Grhim, and he needs Berkana who has at least 40 as well?

[unconcerned1]

It's because of the fact that she's involving herself in something that she shouldn't have. And really Liannonuel has at least 50 levels on Grhim, and he needs Berkana who has at least 40 as well?

1. Grhim attacked Lian first, every time. Except that vial to the head in the park, heh.

2. Berkana's never helped Lian dispatch/maim/jail Grhim.

Your viewpoint's skewed, man. Never asked for/don't need help from a sorcerer PC 12 levels under Lian.

There's all kindsa tools available to you: report, assist, warn interact, etc. Use 'em. ;x

[Rokkyu]

Sorry but using guild tricks to spit on my character is an attack. This was the frst intrusion and you know it.

The fact that Berkana most likely told you what Makkah was whispering to me, THEN you decided to provoke me makes it look even more suspicious.

[unconcerned1]

Sorry but using guild tricks to spit on my character is an attack. This was the frst intrusion and you know it.

The fact that Berkana most likely told you what Makkah was whispering to me, THEN you decided to provoke me makes it look even more suspicious.

I saw it myself when he posted it on the PC, where he whispered 'it's Rhett, fuck him up.' I rather think he was provoking Grhim to attack Lian because he wanted to see Grhim get owned, heh.

I didn't know Berkana is a GM 'til you put it out there.

<3 wtrick spit

[Rokkyu]

yeah right.

[ELO]

yeah right.


Haha.

[StrayRogue]

It's really fucking despicable, in my eyes, for a GM (someone charged with keeping the peace, being level-heaed, non-bias etc etc) to use their powers to actively stop any conflict that they themselves are involved in or becoming involved in.

I couldn't give a shit if Andraste (who is Berkana), RP's with Lian. Nor could I give a shit that she hunts or joins him in PvP. What pisses me off, and what is downright shoddy of her, is the fact that she tried to prevent others becoming involved on Grhim's part. I imagine Lian got no such message about stopping the conflict.

It stinks of Andraste backing up her friend. There are other example's where she's stuck her nose into buisness throwing the policy word around like a club, and basically soured someone elses day. But this is just trashy.

She should have gotten someone else to tell Rhett to backoff, in the least.

Pathetic.

[StrayRogue]

PS: I imagine nothing will happen to her.

PPS: It sucks you quit Bob :(

[unconcerned1]

It's really fucking despicable, in my eyes, for a GM (someone charged with keeping the peace, being level-heaed, non-bias etc etc) to use their powers to actively stop any conflict that they themselves are involved in or becoming involved in.

I couldn't give a shit if Andraste (who is Berkana), RP's with Lian. Nor could I give a shit that she hunts or joins him in PvP. What pisses me off, and what is downright shoddy of her, is the fact that she tried to prevent others becoming involved on Grhim's part. I imagine Lian got no such message about stopping the conflict.




Why should Lian have gotten a warning?

[StrayRogue]

Not an actual warning you cock. If you begin a conflict, why shouldn't one of Grhim's "friends" help protect him. Instead Andraste tell's him to back off. To any rationaly person this would sound like she wants NO conflict to begin. Instead it just makes it look like she doesn't want anyone (older) to interfer.

Heck, it was totally OOC that whisper anyway. It's little different from Rhett IMing Grhim and telling him to fuck your character up. Why she "intervened" is just unfounded.

[unconcerned1]

Not an actual warning you cock. If you begin a conflict, why shouldn't one of Grhim's "friends" help protect him. Instead Andraste tell's him to back off. To any rationaly person this would sound like she wants NO conflict to begin. Instead it just makes it look like she doesn't want anyone (older) to interfer.

Heck, it was totally OOC that whisper anyway. It's little different from Rhett IMing Grhim and telling him to fuck your character up. Why she "intervened" is just unfounded.

I'm still confused. Lian never attacked Grhim until Grhim ambushed him a second time. So why would that give Grhim's friends the 'right' to help? Not that I'm saying he has any that were willing, heh.

Anyway, from what I saw on the PC it was an OOC whisper to Grhim and the conflict was completely IC. CvC, not PvP.

[StrayRogue]

He whispered to him because you were griefing him, egging him on for a conflict.

[unconcerned1]

He whispered to him because you were griefing him, egging him on for a conflict.

You're just a contrary cocksucker aren't you?

[StrayRogue]

How am I contradicting myself, dickhead? I said you were provoking Grhim. Rhett saw this and told Grhim to fuck you up. Your bitch of a friend then used her almighty powers to tell Rhett to stfu. Can I write this any clearer for you, moron?

[unconcerned1]

Griefing 101, heh.

>out
[Town Square, West]
Here in the midst of the town stretches the cobblestoned main bazaar, its serpentine lanes abuzz with traders bartering, bickering, and hawking their wares. The freewheeling vendors in the bazaar provide a lively alternative to the somewhat stodgier merchants whose shops border the square. The gilded but peeling stone facade of the First Elanith Bank dominates this side of the square.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
Abysso, Meril and Berkana followed.
Abysso screams!
Grhim suddenly fades into view.
Grhim gestures at you.
Grhim hurls a powerful lightning bolt at you!
AS: +168 vs DS: +328 with AvD: +33 + d100 roll: +51 = -76
A clean miss.
Abysso giggles.
A golden brown tiger saunters in.
>bellow gr
You glare at Grhim and let out a nerve-shattering bellow!
Grhim is unaffected!

Roundtime: 3 sec.
Lady Aksanah just arrived.
Lady Aksanah just entered the First Elanith bank.
R>bellow gr
You glare at Grhim and let out a nerve-shattering bellow!
Grhim is startled enough to lose initiative!

Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>'heh
You say, "Heh."
R>warcry cry gr
You stare down Grhim and let out an eerie, modulating cry!
Grhim looks at you in utter terror!
Grhim convulses with terrified shivers!

Roundtime: 8 sec.
Abysso makes a nearly imperceptible motion while whispering a soft phrase...
Abysso gestures.
Abysso looks charged with power.
R>'you're gunna sit there and think about it.
You say, "You're gunna sit there and think about it."
Abysso makes a nearly imperceptible motion while whispering a soft phrase...
Abysso gestures.
Abysso is surrounded by a writhing barrier of sharp thorns.
R>disband
Lady Aksanah just arrived.
You disband your group.
Your group status is now closed.
Lady Aksanah just went south.
>'wait here.
You say, "Wait here."
Abysso says, "Awwwwwww."
>bellow gr
You glare at Grhim and let out a nerve-shattering bellow!
Grhim is startled enough to lose initiative!

Roundtime: 3 sec.
R>'i'll be riiiight back
You say, "I'll be riiiight back."
R>e
>e
[Town Square Central]
This is the heart of the main square of Wehnimer's Landing. The impromptu shops of the bazaar are clustered around this central gathering place, where townsfolk, travellers, and adventurers meet to talk, conspire or raise expeditions to the far-flung reaches of Elanith. At the north end of the space, an old well, with moss-covered stones and a craggy roof, is shaded by a strong, robust tree. The oak is tall and straight, and it is apparent that the roots run deep. You also see some wolifrew lichen, a moldy bone, a short sword, a large acorn, a large acorn and some stone benches with some stuff on it.
Also here: Rezere, Lord Pinquil, Dalran who is lying down, Meggles who is kneeling
Obvious paths: northeast, east, southeast, southwest, west, northwest
[Town Square, East]
Here in the center of a broad plaza near the commercial area of the bazaar stands the impressive facade of the slate-roofed Moot Hall, where the citizens of Wehnimer's Landing hold various official, religious and social functions. Facing the square are some of the town's more prosperous and bustling shops. You also see a grizzled old warrior and a large wooden barrel.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
>e
>e
[Wehnimer's, Penna St.]
The constant din of the merchants, tradesmen and hawkers in the shops to the west is muted here. The cracked pavement, scattered cobblestones, and dirt drainage ditches along the side of the road form a not-so-gradual transition between the bustling avenues of the main bazaar and the less frequented, humbler, and more unsavory sections of the town. You also see a low stone gate.
Obvious paths: east, west
>e
>e
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
The intersection of the broad avenue with the narrower byway connecting to the bazaar to the west creates a fleeting bottleneck in the foot traffic. Older wood and stone buildings, mostly small shops and offices with upstairs lodgings overlooking the street, predominate here.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
You can't go there.
>e
You can't go there.
You can't go there.
>s
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
On the west side of this narrow stretch of Cheridin Avenue is the wooden back of the Moot Hall, and the dour building that houses the local constabulary and its jail looms along the other side of the street. To the southeast, a stone dome rises over the compound that surrounds the Landing's largest temple. The traffic here flows quickly north and south without much pause. You also see a shaggy mutt that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north, south
>s
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
Several small shops crowd along the street, which is composed of the back walls of the high buildings bordering the central square. Each storefront vies with the others for street space and the attention of the many travellers who pass through here. Other traders, hoping to take advantage of the traffic attracted by the nearby temple, have set up stands and pushcarts spilling over with clothing, trinkets and souvenirs gathered during their travels far and wide. You also see the clerics' shop.
Obvious paths: north, east
>go con
>n
Where are you trying to go?
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
On the west side of this narrow stretch of Cheridin Avenue is the wooden back of the Moot Hall, and the dour building that houses the local constabulary and its jail looms along the other side of the street. To the southeast, a stone dome rises over the compound that surrounds the Landing's largest temple. The traffic here flows quickly north and south without much pause. You also see a shaggy mutt that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north, south
>go con
[Wehnimer's, Constabulary]
The front room of the local constabulary contains the desk of the town constable. The oaken floor is scuffed by countless feet dragged across it, obviously most reluctantly. Behind the desk is a weapon rack. A strong, ironbound door with a narrow, barred grate leads east.
Obvious exits: out
>accuse grhim of assaul
A town official listens attentively to your plea before saying, "Well, is that so? Grhim you say? We'll take care of that miscreant! I'll be sure to tell the town constable about those transgressions."
>out
>n
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
On the west side of this narrow stretch of Cheridin Avenue is the wooden back of the Moot Hall, and the dour building that houses the local constabulary and its jail looms along the other side of the street. To the southeast, a stone dome rises over the compound that surrounds the Landing's largest temple. The traffic here flows quickly north and south without much pause. You also see a shaggy mutt that is lying down.
Obvious paths: north, south
>w
[Wehnimer's, Cheridin Ave.]
The intersection of the broad avenue with the narrower byway connecting to the bazaar to the west creates a fleeting bottleneck in the foot traffic. Older wood and stone buildings, mostly small shops and offices with upstairs lodgings overlooking the street, predominate here.
Obvious paths: north, south, west
>w
[Wehnimer's, Penna St.]
The constant din of the merchants, tradesmen and hawkers in the shops to the west is muted here. The cracked pavement, scattered cobblestones, and dirt drainage ditches along the side of the road form a not-so-gradual transition between the bustling avenues of the main bazaar and the less frequented, humbler, and more unsavory sections of the town. You also see a low stone gate.
Obvious paths: east, west
>w
[Town Square, East]
Here in the center of a broad plaza near the commercial area of the bazaar stands the impressive facade of the slate-roofed Moot Hall, where the citizens of Wehnimer's Landing hold various official, religious and social functions. Facing the square are some of the town's more prosperous and bustling shops. You also see a grizzled old warrior and a large wooden barrel.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
[Town Square Central]
This is the heart of the main square of Wehnimer's Landing. The impromptu shops of the bazaar are clustered around this central gathering place, where townsfolk, travellers, and adventurers meet to talk, conspire or raise expeditions to the far-flung reaches of Elanith. At the north end of the space, an old well, with moss-covered stones and a craggy roof, is shaded by a strong, robust tree. The oak is tall and straight, and it is apparent that the roots run deep. You also see some wolifrew lichen, a moldy bone, a short sword, a large acorn, a large acorn and some stone benches with some stuff on it.
Also here: Rezere, Lord Pinquil, Dalran who is lying down, Meggles who is kneeling
Obvious paths: northeast, east, southeast, southwest, west, northwest
>w
[Town Square, West]
Here in the midst of the town stretches the cobblestoned main bazaar, its serpentine lanes abuzz with traders bartering, bickering, and hawking their wares. The freewheeling vendors in the bazaar provide a lively alternative to the somewhat stodgier merchants whose shops border the square. The gilded but peeling stone facade of the First Elanith Bank dominates this side of the square. You also see the Frostmaker disk, a golden brown tiger, the Berkana disk, the Abysso disk and the Meril disk.
Also here: Frostmaker, Abysso, Meril, Great Lady Berkana, Grhim
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
Grhim says, "Berkana."
Frostmaker just went north.
>hold aby
You gently take hold of Abysso's hand.
>hold berk
You gently take hold of Berkana's hand.

The town constable walks in, with a number of weapon-wielding deputies behind him.
Grhim begins to move again.

With great ease, the town constable grabs Grhim and shackles his wrists.

"Aha, Varlet! I have you!" the town constable cries out.
The town constable then drags him off.

[StrayRogue]

And this proves....what?

[Rokkyu]

Are you like retarded Lian? You spat directly on my character before I made any kind of attack whatsoever. You spat on my character based on likely what Andraste told you about Rhett's whisper.

Deny it all day Evidence is pretty...evident.

[Xandalf]

You back-stabbing son of a bitch! You confessed your love and favourite thread comment in MY mass killing thread a mere week ago. I see where your loyalty is.


Hah.

I said TURNING. You're still my favorite. Fear not.

[Gan]

:popcorn2:

This thread gives me jolly-trousers.

I give it 5 stars.

(if you ask me, I think Berkana could have thought web might have made the change to room effect since there was no target to her cast/incant)

[sst]

Wow people, its a damn game, quit crying, both sides.

[Tsa`ah]

This is what I don't understand after 2 pages .... what the fuck happened?

[CrystalTears]

Again, whomever first reponds to the thread needs to quote the first post. It is now gone and this thread makes no fucking sense to me.

[Gan]

PC Rule #2360: All threads containing high drama content must have the first post quoted within the first 5 responding posts in order to preserve the sanctity of the drama for future train wreck observers.

[Xaerve]

PC Rule #2360: All threads containing high drama content must have the first post quoted within the first 5 responding posts in order to preserve the sanctity of the drama for future train wreck observers.

Haha :)

[CrystalTears]

This is bull. What happened to not being able to delete the first post of a thread? Now it lets you delete it but it leaves the rest of the thread? That's almost just as bad.

As far as Andraste is concerned, this doesn't surprise me. She's known to butt in where she's not wanted/needed. She uses policy as her crutch to put her nose where it doesn't belong.

If only she'd comment... :D

[Xaerve]

This is bull. What happened to not being able to delete the first post of a thread? Now it lets you delete it but it leaves the rest of the thread? That's almost just as bad.

As far as Andraste is concerned, this doesn't surprise me. She's known to butt in where she's not wanted/needed. She uses policy as her crutch to put her nose where it doesn't belong.

If only she'd comment... :D

Given all the "1 post" users in the thread, I bet she has ;)

[Sean of the Thread]

This is bull. What happened to not being able to delete the first post of a thread? Now it lets you delete it but it leaves the rest of the thread? That's almost just as bad.

As far as Andraste is concerned, this doesn't surprise me. She's known to butt in where she's not wanted/needed. She uses policy as her crutch to put her nose where it doesn't belong.

If only she'd comment... :D

I THINK a mod made this into a splinter thread from where it really started. I remember the first post of this thread being a reply in another.

[CrystalTears]

Either way, they put Warriorbird's response with nothing so it makes no sense. Someone fucked it up and I have no idea why. Just irks me, that's all.

[Sean]

Andraste has always been a bitch whether it's in game, here on the PC, and probably in everyday life too. I'm not really sure why anyone expects anything different from her after all these years.

[Ilvane]

She's been nothing but nice to me in game, and has helped out my girls in a couple of bad situations, so I have nothing bad to say about her. I'd like to hear the entire story myself.

I understand why she wouldn't want to post here, seeing as most things just get attacked.

I'm also glad the thread was splintered, that roleplaying thread was for positive things, not stuff like this.

Angela

[CrystalTears]

Just because she's nice to some doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I'm sorry but I really hate that line of reasoning. Well she's nice to me, he's fair to me.. so it can't be true. Yes it can.

I'm sure there are serial killers who had friends and shocked that "he didn't try to kill me".

[Ilvane]

Yeah, I wasn't saying that. I just was posting my experience with her.

Angela

[Drew2]

Reminds me of Keraa and her tendency to assert that everyone that doesn't like her must be the same single person, and that therefore I am also Toy, Thaisis, and Talantris, among some dozen others.

I've only read as far as this post so far, but you totally forgot that me. She definitely thought I was you for the longest time. Good times.

[Sean]

Yea I wonder why...

[JamusPsi]

Not an actual warning you cock. If you begin a conflict, why shouldn't one of Grhim's "friends" help protect him. Instead Andraste tell's him to back off. To any rationaly person this would sound like she wants NO conflict to begin. Instead it just makes it look like she doesn't want anyone (older) to interfer.

Nah. I get sends all the time from GMs telling me to butt out of other people's conflicts. They HAVE gotten more proactive in trying to keep it from escalating to additional people, probably because it's that much more difficult to sort out the wreckage when it eventually ends up in a consultation room.

And it's NOT just Andraste that will tell you to keep out of situations that don't involve you. I've gotten the same types of gentle warnings from her, Khaladon, Talisker, and I think Zyllah.

Andraste, in my experience, really hates when the conflict spreads to friends of the initially involved. But rather than just putting a stop to it, she tends to use SENDs to the extras, and allow the original combatants to go about their business.


Berkana gestures.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards Berkana.
CS: +344 - TD: +314 + CvA: +12 + d100: +23 - -5 == +70
Warded off!
Berkana avoids the webbing.

118 will not autotarget with incant. In fact, it won't even go off:


>prep 118
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Web spell...
Your spell is ready.
>incant
You already have a different spell readied! You must RELEASE it if you wish to cast another!
>

She obviously did not cast at anyone, from the gesture line, and it's utterly impossible to say what she intended on casting, since she seemed to be more or less an observer. She also didn't prep right before (which you would expect in our days of 0 prep time) so it's exceedingly likely that she simply had it prepped before.

It could have been 109, it could have been 410, or it could have been ANYTHING:



>prep 101
cast
You already have a spell readied! You must RELEASE it if you wish to prepare another!
>You gesture.
Strands of webbing shoot forth towards you.
CS: +319 - TD: +203 + CvA: +12 + d100: +58 - -5 == +191
Warding failed!
You are firmly webbed in place.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>

In addition, I don't see that she did ANYTHING wrong. She may have been more aware of the situation because her pc was there (personally, I'm STILL not sure it's actually her), but I don't see anywhere where she actually abused her power or did anything that she wouldn't have done in the course of her normal duties- provided her attention had been present.

If she is Berkana, she should have avoided this drama by asking another GM to handle it. But then, wouldn't you be complaining that the GMs were showing favoritism towards their compatriot?

She tried to defuse the situation as she's done with countless other conflicts in the course of doing her job. Personally, it irritates the fuck out of me when she does it to me, because I'd rather deal with it myself. But I can't see that she's doing anything special in this case.

Other than just being there as her PC, supposedly. I wouldn't strip her of that right, and I wouldn't strip her of her anonymity either. This whole thread is a shame.

[JamusPsi]

I've only read as far as this post so far, but you totally forgot that me. She definitely thought I was you for the longest time. Good times.

I had to look at the quote again-- my first thought was "I did too mention Tayre!" But I didn't. Being you was fun though. ;)

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Jamus

I wouldn't strip her of that right, and I wouldn't strip her of her anonymity either.

If this is true doesn't it make all your posts as to whether or not Berkana is or isn't Andraste worthless?

[JamusPsi]

She may have been more aware of the situation because her pc was there (personally, I'm STILL not sure it's actually her),

I don't know for a fact either way. I don't think it is, but even if it were, but for the sake of discussion I'm treating it as though it was-- since everyone else is doing the same here.

[Warriorbird]

Way to sidestep.

:rolls eyes:

I can refer you back to my earlier comment on the matter. Come off it.

I think the issue here is Andraste being too positive for someone and perhaps getting them out of richly deserved trouble.

[Drew2]

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart

Baby, baby
Im aware of where you go
Each time you leave my door
I watch you walk down the street
Knowing your other love youll meet
But this time before you run to her
Leaving me alone and hurt
(think it over) after Ive been good to you ?
(think it over) after Ive been sweet to you ?

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Think it over
Think it over

Ive known of your
Your secluded nights
Ive even seen her
Maybe once or twice
But is her sweet expression
Worth more than my love and affection ?
But this time before you leave my arms
And rush of to her charms
(think it over) havent I been good to you ?
(think it over) havent I been sweet to you ?

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Think it over
Think it over

Ive tried so hard, hard to be patient
Hoping youd stop this infatuation
But each time you are together
Im so afraid Ill be losing you forever

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart

Baby, think it over
Think it over, baby
Ooh, think it over baby...

[Daniel]

Rofl.

What

The

Fuck

[Warriorbird]

Probably just what Liannonuel needs to hear, Tayre.

[Rokkyu]

Heh wasn't the player's corner where we used to go NOT to be censored?

[Tsa`ah]

Heh wasn't the player's corner where we used to go NOT to be censored?

Every forum has a set of rules to follow ... including this one.

[Rokkyu]

Heh and what rules was this thread breaking?

[Artha]

Heh wasn't the player's corner where we used to go NOT to be censored?
What Tsa`ah said.

And also, the fact that this post isn't going to be pulled shows we're way cooler than the officials.

[Tsa`ah]

Heh and what rules was this thread breaking?


Near as I can tell it started out in role playing and devolved into a complaint thread. Looks like the mod split the thread and put this portion in the proper folder.

Where it started I don't know ... there wasn't a link or original quote. Everyone makes mistakes.

[Rokkyu]

This thread broke no rules, and if you're going to delete all the relevant information, delete the entire thread.

[Tsa`ah]

I'm not a mod .... and with your grand sum of 60 posts ... well I can safely assume the mods and admin would probably tell you to sit and spin ... no one is forcing you to read or post. That, and I'm pretty sure you don't foot the server space bill either.

Rule #436789 of the PC - Know the rules before you bitch about them.
Rule #436790 of the PC - Know what you're talking about before you start making demands.
Rule #436791 of the PC - No one forced you to register, read, or post ... don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

[DCSL]

rue gave liannonuel a pat on the back and others objected to him being thought of as roleplaying. that's how it started.

[Drew2]

I'm not a mod
Oh shit when did you step down?

I have mixed feelings about this.

[Nieninque]

hahaha like forever ago

[Kranar]

I THINK a mod made this into a splinter thread from where it really started. I remember the first post of this thread being a reply in another.

That's correct, the original thread is here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=17814

As you can clearly see, that thread is drastically different from this one, and so it was split.

I know this explanation won't make happy those people who are always trying to hunt for flaws, corruption, and conspiracies involving the PC staff, but unfortunately that's all there is to this.

Carry on.

[Warriorbird]

No conspiracy. The PC staff didn't do anything wrong.

-some conspiracy nut

[Gan]

DONT MAKE ME GET OUT MY FOIL HAT!!!!

[Sean of the Thread]

That's correct, the original thread is here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=17814

As you can clearly see, that thread is drastically different from this one, and so it was split.

I know this explanation won't make happy those people who are always trying to hunt for flaws, corruption, and conspiracies involving the PC staff, but unfortunately that's all there is to this.

Carry on.

I agree completely. I just personally think the split should have included the post that the "splinter post" was responding to.. as it is it makes entirely no sense for someone just coming into the thread.

[CrystalTears]

I didn't mean for my comment to come off as "omg those damn mods" but it disappointed me that the thread doesn't make sense because only the responses were moved, and not the post that started it all.

ANYWAY... Andraste is still a pain. :D

[Liberi Fatali]

I didn't mean for my comment to come off as "omg those damn mods" but it disappointed me that the thread doesn't make sense because only the responses were moved, and not the post that started it all.

ANYWAY... Andraste is still a pain. :D

ZOMG WHERE IS WEZAS!?!?!??!

DID WEZAS SPLIT THIS THREAD?!?!??!

WEZAS?!?!? WHERE IS HE?!?!?!?

(WEZAS WEZAS WEZAS)

[Sean]

Perhaps in your quest to go out of your way to be a douche bag you should have taken the time to note that Wezas isn't a mod.

[Kainen]

Perhaps in your quest to go out of your way to be a douche bag you should have taken the time to note that Wezas isn't a mod.

He never has to go "out of his way" to be a douche bag, it comes naturally :D

[Liberi Fatali]

He never has to go "out of his way" to be a douche bag, it comes naturally :D

It comes naturally only if the person I'm being a 'douche bag' to initiated the spouting off with me first.

You see, I never had anything against black Sean. I didn't even know his character, Tijay. I believe I posted a log on here and he decided to make a negative comment about it -- thus began that charade.

The same goes for that idiot Wezas (WHERE IS WEZAS BY THE WAY). I had no knowledge at all about him or anyone he played in Gemstone -- he decided to harp on a post I made, and thus...

[Sean]

Tijay isn't my character, or rather hasn't been for awhile.

[Nieninque]

OK this is BS.

There is no sarcasm in this post, just blatant racism.

The fucking policies on this board are pathetic. Either enforce them or do away with them.

Tabor is a prick.

[Nieninque]

It comes naturally only if the person I'm being a 'douche bag' to initiated the spouting off with me first.

You see, I never had anything against black Sean. I didn't even know his character, Tijay. I believe I posted a log on here and he decided to make a negative comment about it -- thus began that charade.

The same goes for that idiot Wezas (WHERE IS WEZAS BY THE WAY). I had no knowledge at all about him or anyone he played in Gemstone -- he decided to harp on a post I made, and thus...

translation: If someone says something nice about me, whatever it was they said is the gospel truth. If they say anything I dont agree with that means they are a great and fruitsome flabby woof woof and you can call me shirley if it isnt so.

[Kranar]

OK this is BS.

There is no sarcasm in this post, just blatant racism.

The fucking policies on this board are pathetic. Either enforce them or do away with them.

Tabor is a prick.


Oh my God someone posted something offensive on a real time public forum and the mods/staff didn't remove it within 0.0001 microseconds! Conspiracy! Favouritism! Corruption!

The sky is falling!

[Xandalf]

Hey Kranar.. totally off topic, but can we run another game of Diplomacy?

[Gan]

Oh my God someone posted something offensive on a real time public forum and the mods/staff didn't remove it within 0.0001 microseconds! Conspiracy! Favouritism! Corruption!

The sky is falling!

You guys need to tighten up. YOU'RE SLACKING!!!

[Skirmisher]

Tabor, get your punk ass, runt of the litter sized, white sheet wearing, no voter card having self out of the 50's.

[Sean of the Thread]

Hey Kranar.. totally off topic, but can we run another game of Diplomacy?

I'd prolly be down for one as well depending on the details.

[Nieninque]

Oh my God someone posted something offensive on a real time public forum and the mods/staff didn't remove it within 0.0001 microseconds! Conspiracy! Favouritism! Corruption!

The sky is falling!

Fuck off Kranar.

If your "mods" removed all offensive posts according to the guidelines you posted, there would be no problem.

As it stands, unless someone posts that it is offensive (and sometimes not even then) it tends to get overlooked.

Just doing my part to ensure that the pondlife of the boards gets theirs.

[Liberi Fatali]

OK this is BS.

There is no sarcasm in this post, just blatant racism.



Get your punk ass, runt of the litter sized, white sheet wearing, no voter card having self out of the 50's.

My, my, that was certainly amusing. It gave me quite a chuckle, admittedly.

I've seen Birth of a Nation, by the way. I know what black people are capable of.

[Parkbandit]

Andraste has always been a bitch whether it's in game, here on the PC, and probably in everyday life too. I'm not really sure why anyone expects anything different from her after all these years.

Andraste posts here?

Name please or die in a fire.

[Skirmisher]

She posted as Andraste as I recall.

[Parkbandit]

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart

Baby, baby
Im aware of where you go
Each time you leave my door
I watch you walk down the street
Knowing your other love youll meet
But this time before you run to her
Leaving me alone and hurt
(think it over) after Ive been good to you ?
(think it over) after Ive been sweet to you ?

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Think it over
Think it over

Ive known of your
Your secluded nights
Ive even seen her
Maybe once or twice
But is her sweet expression
Worth more than my love and affection ?
But this time before you leave my arms
And rush of to her charms
(think it over) havent I been good to you ?
(think it over) havent I been sweet to you ?

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Think it over
Think it over

Ive tried so hard, hard to be patient
Hoping youd stop this infatuation
But each time you are together
Im so afraid Ill be losing you forever

Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart
Stop! in the name of love
Before you break my heart

Baby, think it over
Think it over, baby
Ooh, think it over baby...


Weird.. I would have thought you would quote Cher or Streisand...

[Parkbandit]

That's correct, the original thread is here:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=17814

As you can clearly see, that thread is drastically different from this one, and so it was split.

I know this explanation won't make happy those people who are always trying to hunt for flaws, corruption, and conspiracies involving the PC staff, but unfortunately that's all there is to this.

Carry on.

Notice since you put the leash on Harmnone, no one's complaining?

Weird.

[Kranar]

Fuck off Kranar.

If your "mods" removed all offensive posts according to the guidelines you posted, there would be no problem.

As it stands, unless someone posts that it is offensive (and sometimes not even then) it tends to get overlooked.

Just doing my part to ensure that the pondlife of the boards gets theirs.


I run these forums in case you didn't notice, there's no fucking off for me... but you're free to leave anytime you want.

Get a clue before you cry like a baby and don't think for one second you're going to push me around. If you can't handle some offensive content on a real time message board, then don't read them.

[Nieninque]

I run these forums in case you didn't notice, there's no fucking off for me... but you're free to leave anytime you want.

Get a clue before you cry like a baby and don't think for one second you're going to push me around. If you can't handle some offensive content on a real time message board, then don't read them.

ROFL...why did you delete it then?

[Latrinsorm]

Kranar > Nieninque

All > JD

the rofl of unintelligible Andraste conspiracy theories > All

Thread summed up, then?

[Rokkyu]

so telling the board mod to fuck off isn't against these forum's policy, but the original posts in this thread are?

let's all take a moment to say Fuck off Kranar.

[Back]

ROFL...why did you delete it then?

Niens ok in my book.

http://www.zendada.com/images/bth.jpg

[Sean]

Not to be completely off topic but do people actually get upset by Tabor's racist ramblings? Expecting Tabor not to act like a bigot is like expecting Andraste not to act like a bitch.. it's just not going to happen.

[Xaerve]

so telling the board mod to fuck off isn't against these forum's policy, but the original posts in this thread are?

let's all take a moment to say Fuck off Kranar.

Mature.

[Kranar]

so telling the board mod to fuck off isn't against these forum's policy, but the original posts in this thread are?

let's all take a moment to say Fuck off Kranar.

What original posts are you talking about? You can tell me to fuck off all you want, congratulations.

Here is the original post that started this entire debacle... here is the mystery post that you think we deleted for God knows what reason...

I put in bold italics the part of the post which was replied to in this threads first post.


I have to really take a step back and thank a few people for some great RP lately.

Where do I start?!

Lanielle you have involved Telsas in a great plot. Thanks bunches! I have no clue why or how or even what the hell to do, but Thanks bunches and great work.

Linthral . . . a few times in the past has encountered Telsas and debated with intelligence. The last meeting of minds was wonderful and the set up for the stage to be played out with the Palestra has me looking forward to each new turn.

People of the Moonshine Manor. . .
OYI Thanks for letting me drag you in and pushing me out. I never know what is going to happen but I am finding that no matter what it is, It is worth going back for more.

People of the Garden Niche. . .
YOU Know who you are!! Mostly, always willing to listen to her ramblings and help out with spells and give Telsas the support she needed when she could not ask for it.

Liannonuel, I am going to throw you in to for the heck of it. Your ego is big enough that I find it more fun not telling you or anyone else reading this why.

Marclar and his bride. . . Oh my!! That really was . . . fun and threw Telsas for a big loop, Thanks.

I could probably go on with a bunch of names and situations, but I think some things are just best left unsaid.

Thanks again to one and all from a new addict to GS.
One year ends the newbie title right? Getting close !!


Oh my God... the HORROR!

[Bobmuhthol]

Man.

I just read the last 20 or so posts, don't feel like reading the 50+ between when I stopped last night and now, and all I can say is lol.

What a ridiculous thread. And thanks, Stay!

[Makkah]

:boring:

[Orendis]

QFT, Rhett.

[Makkah]

Thanks, Orendis. That has only been pointed out 82 times.

[Gan]

If you can't handle some offensive content on a real time message board, then don't read them.

I'm so quoting this...

[Gan]

Not to be completely off topic but do people actually get upset by Tabor's racist ramblings? Expecting Tabor not to act like a bigot is like expecting Andraste not to act like a bitch.. it's just not going to happen.

.

If you can't handle some offensive content on a real time message board, then don't read them.


:lol:

(I just consider the source most times I see someone being a biggot, so no I'm not usually offended) (even though racisim really pisses me off when I witness it in person)

[Back]

so telling the board mod to fuck off isn't against these forum's policy, but the original posts in this thread are?

let's all take a moment to say Fuck off Kranar.

Since Methias isn’t posting...

http://google135.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/retard.jpg.w300h225.jpg

[Snapp]

so telling the board mod to fuck off isn't against these forum's policy, but the original posts in this thread are?

let's all take a moment to say Fuck off Kranar.

You can tell me to fuck off if you want, since I'm the one who split the thread. And no posts got deleted/edited when I split it.. so I don't know what you're whining about? I just thought it needed it's own thread (out of the good roleplayer's thread). And my bad for not quoting Rue's post, if that's what's so confusing.

[Rokkyu]

More things were changed, mostly Warriorbird's posts.

[Kranar]

Nothing was deleted/changed except for a single post by Liberi Fatali because it was blatantly racist.

If Warriorbird's posts were edited/changed/deleted by us, heck if any member here had their post changed/modified by us regarding this thread, feel free to speak out about it.

You were wrong and you've been called on it, suck it up.

[Skeeter]

way to fuck it all up Snapp. You douchebag.

:club:

[Parkbandit]

Get a clue before you cry like a baby and don't think for one second you're going to push me around. If you can't handle some offensive content on a real time message board, then don't read them.

While I applaud the new forum relaxation and the removal / absence of HarmAnyonewhoIdon'tagreewith... I cannot condone such ignorance and racial hatred from this forums biggest dipshit.

This post was reported for stupidity, ignorance and overall retardation.

[Tsa`ah]

I'll never get why people find it impossible to use the report function when it comes to posts.

Report and wait. You can check to see if any mods are on, but that doesn't mean they're at the keyboard every second of the day just waiting to do something that is completely voluntary.

Report, wait, pm ... IM if you know the person or if they have it displayed. Things do not happen instantly.

At that point it's up to the mods .... reporting does not mean it gets edited, deleted, split .. anything.

[Shari]

Wow has this thread ever gone off topic.

And only to add to it, I can tell you right now that there are white neighborhoods (ontop of the Mexican ones here) that I wouldn't walk through by myself. It doesn't matter what culture it is. Everyone's got their shitty side.

[HouseofElves]

This is like all the fuck-tastic drama of GS increased by unrestrained stupidity and I don't even have to pay the 20 bucks a month!

If I could just post up random outfits, it's like playing GS for free!

[Rathain]

Wow has this thread ever gone off topic.

And only to add to it, I can tell you right now that there are white neighborhoods (ontop of the Mexican ones here) that I wouldn't walk through by myself. It doesn't matter what culture it is. Everyone's got their shitty side.

^Association fallacy. Sadly, it's not about race at all - it's all about culture.
Though it falls under the dishonor by association, the scope of it is argued despite the fallacy.


This is like all the fuck-tastic drama of GS increased by unrestrained stupidity and I don't even have to pay the 20 bucks a month!

If I could just post up random outfits, it's like playing GS for free!

http://www.amazon.com/End-Racism-Dinesh-DSouza/dp/0684825244

Screw the 20 bucks. try the above for 12 bones. It's part unrestrained stupidity and another part candor, lady fashionista.

[Doyle Hargraves]

You know what I hate? Antique furniture and midgets.

[Kranar]

Several posts were deleted that referenced some racist-based commentary. If you noticed your post was deleted, that's why.

I encourage people who notice any futher comments/discussion that would appear to be in violation of forum policy to please report it as opposed to quoting it.

[Rue]

:wtf: What the fuck is all this? Someone gets a good word in and the rest turns into nothing but high school drama. I left text games for graphic games for this very reason. I avoided GS for YEARS, even though I knew it would most likely rekindle addiction I lost when I left Dragon Realms. Well hell, I moved out to the sticks and my choice for gaming is limited. However, I have enjoyed the whole experience up till this damned post.

So here are my few comments for you to trash and tear apart:

1. Who gives a fuck who is playing who ?! ITS CALLED A ROLE-PLAYING GAME.

2. Let the GM Bosses deal with the GM's, you don't like how something is being handled, write up your complaint with facts, (FACTS not your truths) and submit it.

3. Please remember there is actually someone on the other side of this screen who isn't always hard shelled and might get upset at what is being said. It is easy to say cruel things when you don't see the effect it has on a person in reality, try and keep it to game and not to so much real life.

4. Just cause these boards are designed so you're free to express yourself without censorship doesn't give you a right to be a asshole.

OK, done. Getting off my soap box, have at it.

[The Ponzzz]

I agree, any chance of anything being 'done' has been gone after posting it here.

If something was in fact up with this scenario, it should have just been emailed to feedback and followed up.

[Makkah]

Hahahahahaha. She said "getting off"

[Methais]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/die-thread.jpg

[Nilandia]

I've seen Birth of a Nation, by the way. I know what black people are capable of.
I can only hope that you're joking, Tabor.

That movie is outright laughable in its portrayal of African-Americans, not to mention the way it manipulates history to suit a particular view. The cinematography was brilliant for its day, yes, but that in no way excuses a blatant racist agenda that seems to revel in its own absurdity.

Gretchen

[Nieninque]

OK I was a little drunk when I posted my rant.
I should have used the report rather than the quote and should have realised that Tabor is considered a prick by everyone so there was no doubt his racist comments would get deleted.

I guess I was still influenced by the previous spate of racist comments in another thread which were OK to be posted because they were "funny". That is still BS in my eyes.

And for me it isnt that I'm scared of seeing offensive comments. The whole attraction of these boards for me was that people were able to express themselves pretty freely, but with there being some standards to what people can and cant post...guidelines that you yourself drew up Kranar...so it's no good you saying "if you cant stand seeing offensive things, go somewhere else" because what you are effectively saying is "If you cant stand reading things that I have decreed should not be posted on these boards anyway..."

Regardless, I went off the deep end due to alcohol consumption and getting me knickers in a twist and it was dealt with anyway. Tabor is still a prick. The world is as it should be.

[Xaerve]

This is like all the fuck-tastic drama of GS increased by unrestrained stupidity and I don't even have to pay the 20 bucks a month!

If I could just post up random outfits, it's like playing GS for free!

win.

[Warriorbird]

I edited one post and removed one due to the request of a friend. As stated previously, I think the staff's been quite tolerant. I have no issue with them dealing with Tabor being an idiot. The beginning of the thread makes sense to me still.

For the person who was all, "Why wasn't this assisted/reported/sent to Feedback?" It was before it even got taken here. This was just to make it public.

[Czeska]

... get your punk ass, runt of the litter sized, white sheet wearing, no voter card having self out of the 50's.


I just want to note that this cracked me up, laughing out loud, at work. Not in any context, nor because of to whom Skirm was referring, just because it's funny as hell.

Ok, carry on.

[Parkbandit]

Several posts were deleted that referenced some racist-based commentary. If you noticed your post was deleted, that's why.

I encourage people who notice any futher comments/discussion that would appear to be in violation of forum policy to please report it as opposed to quoting it.

I did both, since I'm not sure what the current policy du jour is.

[Artha]

"Thing X is offensive, I better make sure it appears more than once."

When the hell does that make sense ever?

[Liberi Fatali]

I can only hope that you're joking, Tabor.

That movie is outright laughable in its portrayal of African-Americans, not to mention the way it manipulates history to suit a particular view. The cinematography was brilliant for its day, yes, but that in no way excuses a blatant racist agenda that seems to revel in its own absurdity.

Gretchen

Of course I was joking -- I didn't find the film overly racist as many people have, though. It sparked a lot of riots back in the 1920's, though -- rightfully so, I suppose. One can't expect someone in that time era to have the same progressive 'enlightenment' about race that we do today.

There was a scene in it, however, that was heavily edited. Where Gus, the 'main' black character chases a girl through the woods and backs her up to a cliff. In the book, he rapes her. In the movie, she tells him to "STAY BACK OR I'LL JUMP". Terrified by the thought of being raped and fondled by a black man, she jumps.

[Misun]

Of all the threads I could have read.... le sigh. O well.
Just wanted to say that if anyone ever has any conflict with any of my characters, I will put them out here so there is not confusion to who I am or who I play.

I am Misun aka Misun, and I play Misun and also Misun. Then there is Misun and the other Misun and then one more named Misun. I am not a gm and I am not a mod, but I am Misun. Oh! Don't let me forget Misun. That said, I hold no other powers or favors except from Misun. So bring it on! hehe.

P.S. I also post as Misun and Misun. Hope this doesn't confuse you too much, just highlight Misun and you will always know my characters.

[Ilvane]

...

Good god, I have to say this thread should die..please.

[Sean of the Thread]

douchebag

[Misun]

...

Good god, I have to say this thread should die..please.

Stop reading it and posting on it and it should.

[Sean of the Thread]

Douche

[Ilvane]

I love you too, Sean.:P

Okay I'm done. And yeah, I know Misun, who is Misun and Misun..oh and Misun.;)

[Warriorbird]

Can we just delete Tabor in general?

[Skeeter]

OK I was a little drunk when I posted my rant.
I should have used the report rather than the quote and should have realised that Tabor is considered a prick by everyone so there was no doubt his racist comments would get deleted.

I guess I was still influenced by the previous spate of racist comments in another thread which were OK to be posted because they were "funny". That is still BS in my eyes.

And for me it isnt that I'm scared of seeing offensive comments. The whole attraction of these boards for me was that people were able to express themselves pretty freely, but with there being some standards to what people can and cant post...guidelines that you yourself drew up Kranar...so it's no good you saying "if you cant stand seeing offensive things, go somewhere else" because what you are effectively saying is "If you cant stand reading things that I have decreed should not be posted on these boards anyway..."

Regardless, I went off the deep end due to alcohol consumption and getting me knickers in a twist and it was dealt with anyway. Tabor is still a prick. The world is as it should be.


That's the most round-about "I'm Sorry" I've ever seen.

[Kia]

Can we just delete Tabor in general?

Aww. No deleting Tabor.

Also, this thread is totally random. GS is a just a fun game. That is all. :)

Kia

[DCSL]

heh, kia, you are a charmed and charming personality.

[Alfster]

more drama, less warm fuzzies

[Sean of the Thread]

Depends what warm fuzzy we're talking about.

*and if it's moist.

[Alfster]

roastbeef

[Sean of the Thread]

puke

[Warriorbird]

"Aww. No deleting Tabor.

Also, this thread is totally random. GS is a just a fun game. That is all.

Kia"

The delete Tabor was a jest, but I agree. GS is supposed to be a fun game. That's why I hope policy catches Liannonuel and people who'd cover for or assist him sooner rather than later. He's already made at least one customer of yours leave (just to make it clear, not me).

[Czeska]

I was going to estimate how many times in the last five years I've told people, "If you're not having fun, why are you playing?" but I lost count a long time ago. For the record, I'm still having fun, though I can't play as much anymore. Damn those children learning how to walk!!!

[unconcerned1]

"Aww. No deleting Tabor.

Also, this thread is totally random. GS is a just a fun game. That is all.

Kia"

The delete Tabor was a jest, but I agree. GS is supposed to be a fun game. That's why I hope policy catches Liannonuel and people who'd cover for or assist him sooner rather than later. He's already made at least one customer of yours leave (just to make it clear, not me).

Conan, you crybaby bitch, stfu. No one 'covered' for me.

[Artha]

heh, kia, you are a charmed and charming personality.
QFT

[StrayRogue]

Conan, you crybaby bitch, stfu. No one 'covered' for me.

Sure she didn't.

Gotta love all the GM's sticking their oar in. Shame they won't do this in game (except Andraste of course).

[Sean of the Thread]

Conan, you crybaby bitch, stfu. No one 'covered' for me.

you must be proud cunt

[Misun]

you must be proud cunt

Nice, now I will always listen to your words and opinions with great respect.

[StrayRogue]

I'm sure he cares about the opinion who hasn't actually posted more than 20 times and obviously hasn't developed an opinion of there own.

To paraphrase: I imagine he doesn't give a shit about a no one.

[Misun]

I'm sure he cares about the opinion who hasn't actually posted more than 20 times and obviously hasn't developed an opinion of there own.

To paraphrase: I imagine he doesn't give a shit about a no one.

True, I guess I can increase my number of post by making one word posts that make no sense.

But I don't care.

[StrayRogue]

But I don't care.

Congratulations. In four words you've encapsulated everyone else's feelings towards your "useful" contribution to this thread.

[unconcerned1]

Sure she didn't.

Gotta love all the GM's sticking their oar in. Shame they won't do this in game (except Andraste of course).

Show me where I broke 'policy' and Andraste covered for me. It didn't happen.

Grhim initiated it, every time.

I don't know how I feel about her telling Rhett to stay outta it. His only contribution was an OOC whisper; 'it's rhett, fuck him up.' That's covering?

I'll tell you (Conan) like I told Grhim's stupid ass. Assist, warn interact, report. And stfu.

[Sean of the Thread]

Nice, now I will always listen to your words and opinions with great respect.

I care?


My words and opinions are always based on truth and common sense. If your sorry ass doesn't approve I don't give a shiz.

[DCSL]

just to be absolutely clear. neither liannonuel nor liannonuel's player made me want to leave the game.

[StrayRogue]

Show me where I broke 'policy' and Andraste covered for me. It didn't happen.



Show me where I said you "broke policy". I said you provoked someone into attacking you. Someone else saw the provocation and told them to attack you. Your friend, a GM, warned that person to prevent such a conflict. Yet you recieved no such warning from your friend. Hypocrisy.

[unconcerned1]

Show me where I said you "broke policy". I said you provoked someone into attacking you. Someone else saw the provocation and told them to attack you. Your friend, a GM, warned that person to prevent such a conflict. Yet you recieved no such warning from your friend. Hypocrisy.

I quoted the wrong dipshit. Conan said it, not you.

And why should I have received a warning.. didn't do shit to warrant it.

[Sean]

reading comprehension weeps for thee :(

[Warriorbird]

:chuckles: Well, properly, I'd have assisted after you did a little driveby on my character and vanished...a character you'd gotten no consent from or even roleplayed with. That's pretty much your standard MO from what I hear, however. Sean detailed the covering for...which is far more problematic. Kinda funny that you can scare people into posting in your defense as well as asking for you not to get reported. Kinda like the GS equivalent of battered woman syndrome. Ridiculous.

[unconcerned1]

:chuckles: Well, properly, I'd have assisted after you did a little driveby on my character and vanished...a character you'd gotten no consent from or even roleplayed with. That's pretty much your standard MO from what I hear, however. Sean detailed the covering for...which is far more problematic. Kinda funny that you can scare people into posting in your defense as well as asking for you not to get reported. Kinda like the GS equivalent of battered woman syndrome. Ridiculous.

You weren't such a bitter bitch before your marriage fell apart.

[Sean of the Thread]

Wow.

[Fallen]

HAhahahahaha. Good stuff. Good stuff.

[Skirmisher]

nasty personal comments

Okay.

Lets try to play nice people.

Or baring that at least cut out the purely personal attacks mmkay?

[HouseofElves]

just to be absolutely clear. neither liannonuel nor liannonuel's player made me want to leave the game.

Uhhh...

[Skeeter]

Man, even I wouldn't go there.