Dying twice...without dying twice.

[Renian]

[Old Ta'Faendryl, Market Road]
>s
The road moves north and south between broken mounds of dirt and stone that mark out a boundary along the edges of two wide plazas on either side of the road. Unusually straight cracks and an occasional gleam of grey peeping through the dirt indicates the presence of cracked granite blocks buried beneath the soil. You also see an Ithzir scout, an Ithzir herald, an Ithzir initiate, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, an arrow, a twisted crystal-tipped staff, an arrow and a twisted crystal-tipped staff.
Obvious paths: north, east, south, west
!>s
A shrill screech pierces the air as a war griffin dives from above!
A rush of fear rises in your stomach, and you freeze, struggling to regain your composure!
Roundtime: 20 sec.
A shrill screech pierces the air as a war griffin dives from above!
A rush of fear rises in your stomach, and you freeze, struggling to regain your composure!
!R>s
...wait 20 seconds.
An Ithzir adept walks in, his eyes narrowed in thought.
!R>
An Ithzir scout swings a curved crystal-edged blade at you!
AS: +420 vs DS: +267 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +1 = +193
... and hits for 11 points of damage!
Quick slash catches your cheek!
Dimples are always nice.

** An Ithzir scout's crystal-edged blade emits a searing bolt of lightning! **

... 15 points of damage!
Hard jolt contracts every muscle in your upper body.
You are stunned for 4 rounds!
!SR>
You are still stunned.
!SR>
...wait 20 seconds.
!SR>s
...wait 20 seconds.
!SR>sw
...wait 20 seconds.
!SR>
You are still stunned.
!SR>
An Ithzir herald swings a curved silvery blade at you!
AS: +411 vs DS: +233 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +95 = +312
... and hits for 22 points of damage!
Banged your right shin.
That'll raise a good welt.
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate closes her eyes while uttering a hollow, alien chant.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout swings a curved crystal-edged blade at you!
AS: +420 vs DS: +223 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +8 = +244
... and hits for 14 points of damage!
Awkward slash to your stomach!
Everyone needs another belly button.
!SR>
Corky just arrived.
!SR>
A war griffin tilts its head, its keen eyes scouring the surroundings.
A war griffin discovers Aethyrin, who was hidden!

A war griffin swoops down from high overhead!
A war griffin tries to bite Aethyrin!
AS: +435 vs DS: +571 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +99 = -5
A clean miss.
!SR>
A war griffin swoops down from high overhead!
A war griffin tries to bite Aethyrin!
AS: +435 vs DS: +571 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +97 = -7
A clean miss.
!SR>
An Ithzir adept closes his eyes while incanting an alien phrase.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout swings a curved crystal-edged blade at you!
AS: +420 vs DS: +218 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +91 = +332
... and hits for 19 points of damage!
Quick slash to your upper right arm!
Just a nick
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate places one palm on her chest, and raises the other toward Corky!
CS: +389 - TD: +454 + CvA: +13 + d100: +13 == -39
Warded off!
!SR>
Corky's group just went south.
!SR>
An Ithzir herald starts singing an alien song in a reverberating, sonorous voice.
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate strides in, his hands clasped before him.
!SR>
An Ithzir adept thrusts both palms toward you!
A gust of wind tugs at your sleeves. Suddenly, a fierce wind rips through the area, scattering everything in its path and making it difficult to remain standing.
A war griffin is buffeted by the great wind!
The wind then subsides.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout fades into view while striking!
An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming steel broadsword at you!
AS: +412 vs DS: +226 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +100 = +322
... and hits for 26 points of damage!
Mighty blow cracks several of your ribs.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout swings a curved crystal-edged blade at you!
AS: +420 vs DS: +215 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +80 = +324
... and hits for 23 points of damage!
Blade slashes across your face!
Nice nose job.
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate closes her eyes while uttering a hollow, alien chant.
!SR>
A war griffin tries to spear you with its beak!
AS: +435 vs DS: +195 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +8 = +279
... and hits for 28 points of damage!
Mighty blow cracks several of your ribs.
!SR>
An Ithzir adept closes his eyes while incanting an alien phrase.
!SR>
An Ithzir herald directs her alien song at you!
The song mesmerizes you, causing you to falter slightly.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout swings a curved crystal-edged blade at you!
AS: +420 vs DS: +195 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +3 = +267
... and hits for 16 points of damage!
Slash to your left leg hits high!
Kinda makes your knees weak, huh?
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate places one palm on her chest, and raises the other toward you!
CS: +389 - TD: +294 + CvA: -18 + d100: +90 - +5 == +162
Warding failed!
The spirits swirl around you, distracting your every action.
!SR>
A war griffin tries to bite you!
AS: +435 vs DS: +160 with AvD: +25 + d100 roll: +45 = +345
... and hits for 44 points of damage!
Flesh ripped from your back, muscles exposed.
!SR>
An Ithzir scout shimmers and fades from view.
!SR>
An Ithzir initiate swings a twisted crystal-tipped staff at you!
AS: +428 vs DS: +153 with AvD: +24 + d100 roll: +19 = +318
... and hits for 13 points of damage!
You hear a buzzing in your ears from that blow!
The scintillating light surrounding the staff fades some.
!SR>stun move s
...wait 1 seconds.
!S>stun move s
You feel at full magical power again.
You feel less drained.
You feel fully energetic again.
!>
An Ithzir herald swings a curved silvery blade at you!
AS: +411 vs DS: +173 with AvD: +39 + d100 roll: +64 = +341
>sign of healing
... and hits for 24 points of damage!
Blow to your back cracks several vertebrae.
The distracting force passes away from you.
Your SIGN OF DISSIPATION is no longer effective.
The feeling of intense rage leaves you.
The silvery luminescence fades from around you.
Your SIGN OF DEFLECTION is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF DEFENDING is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF STRIKING is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF SWORDS is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF SMITING is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF SHIELDS is no longer effective.
Your SIGN OF STAUNCHING is no longer effective.
The glowing specks of energy surrounding you suddenly shoot off in all directions, then quickly fade away.
Your SIGN OF WARDING is no longer effective.
You feel your extra strength departing.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around you.

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 13 mins...

It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

...departing in 13 mins...

The Ithzir herald shouts joyously!

DEAD>
An Ithzir scout makes no sound as he slips south.
DEAD>
You are a ghost! You must wait until someone resurrects you, or you decay. Either way, it won't be long now! (HELP for more details).
DEAD>
You are a ghost! You must wait until someone resurrects you, or you decay. Either way, it won't be long now! (HELP for more details).
DEAD>
* Renian just bit the dust!
DEAD>
* Renian just bit the dust!
DEAD>
An Ithzir adept walks south, his eyes narrowed in thought.
DEAD>

So I bit the dust twice without actually doing so. How...?!

[Daniel]

That's just how hard you got pwned

[Meges]

Did you have any deeds? I'm wondering if that would have been a demonic in GSIII.


Meges

[fallenSaint]

I agree with Daniel you got effin pwned.... might want to bug it or chat with a GH on it if you got the penalty for the double death.

[mgoddess]

Did you have any deeds? I'm wondering if that would have been a demonic in GSIII.


Meges

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

... means you have deeds.

[Nieninque]

Isnt that just what happens when you spirit death or whatever its called.

Its been a while, but arent some of the COL signs cashed in at the end of the duration of the spell, which would have meant that when your sign of (wtfever) wore off when you died, you also lost the spirit that you would have needed to stay alive, meaning that you took the dive for the grand poobah.

[Things2Come]

I'm just wondering why the guy who ran in for a second didn't do anything to help.

[Meges]

You mentally give a sigh of relief as you remember that the Goddess Lorminstra owes you a favor.

... means you have deeds.

Something else I also missed was that he used Sign of Healing at the time of his death, and that's likely the reason he had a spirit death. I'm guessing that when he died, he had 0 spirit (like most dead people), then the Sign of Healing kicked in, which costs 2 spirit and that nailed him as well for a spirit death. There was no message indicating that he couldn't use Sign of Healing because he was dead, which leads me to believe that the sign was successful in its activation. Unless you can actually use the sign while dead?

So, back to my original line of thought on deeds. How many deeds did you have before the first death and how many did you have after both deaths? You should have lost three deeds during both of those deaths. One for the first one, then two for the spirit death. Assuming the second one was in fact a spirit death brought on by Sign of Healing.


Meges

[GS4-D]

I'm just wondering why the guy who ran in for a second didn't do anything to help.

Because they're not required to help. They could be have an issue with the player in question and they were filled with joy as they saw him in agony. I do the same thing with people on my shit list.

[Methais]

I don't think sign of healing had anything to do with it, because there was no message indicating that the command actually went through before he died. Even if he died with 1 spirit left with sign of swords/shields still active, that wouldn't result in a spirit death either. I've died plenty of times like that without a spirit death. Plus if it were a spirit death, he would have been ported back to the temple or wherever a spirit death takes you in EN.

I'm thinking lag or some random bug. It's nothing new, just very random.

Out of curiosity though, did you lose one or two deeds?

[Izzy]

I don't think sign of healing had anything to do with it, because there was no message indicating that the command actually went through before he died. [...] Plus if it were a spirit death, he would have been ported back to the temple or wherever a spirit death takes you in EN.



I'm going to agree with Methais. A spirit death is auto decay.

[mgoddess]

I'm going to agree with Methais. A spirit death is auto decay.

Yep, it is.

[Meges]

I don't think sign of healing had anything to do with it, because there was no message indicating that the command actually went through before he died. Even if he died with 1 spirit left with sign of swords/shields still active, that wouldn't result in a spirit death either. I've died plenty of times like that without a spirit death. Plus if it were a spirit death, he would have been ported back to the temple or wherever a spirit death takes you in EN.

I'm thinking lag or some random bug. It's nothing new, just very random.

Out of curiosity though, did you lose one or two deeds?

I couldn't replicate what happened. I tried a few variations and nothing. The only thing I got for it was a "crushing" death's sting on one of my warriors, heh.


Meges

[Stanley Burrell]

Spirit deaths used to steal three deeds, IIRC.

If you decayed with two, you'd go demonic, I think.

[Meges]

I'm pretty sure spirit deaths took two deeds (and they still do), which is why you always wanted at least three deeds so that if you did have a spirit death, you'd have that one extra deed to prevent going demonic.


Meges

[Flurbins]

I couldn't replicate what happened. I tried a few variations and nothing.


The 2 deaths were because one of the ithzir cast a bard song on you.

specifically this:
An Ithzir herald directs her alien song at you!
The song mesmerizes you, causing you to falter slightly.

I thought they fixed this bug a long time ago, guess not. Good luck getting simu to respond to anything about this one though, they pretend it doesn't exist every time it's brought up on the boards.

[radamanthys]

what's going demonic?

[Meges]

what's going demonic?

Back in GemStone III, if you managed to decay without deeds, you forever lost your character. You were sent to Purgatory and stayed there, permanently. Those were good times, heh.

Here's a little cut of one of my characters farting around with it:

You fall over. Clumsy oaf!
P>A hobgoblin swings a cudgel at you!
AS: +50 vs DS: -47 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +38 = +155
... and hits for 17 points of damage!
Strike to the eye clips the eyebrow.
You are stunned for 1 rounds!
PS>A hobgoblin swings a cudgel at you!
AS: +50 vs DS: -47 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +7 = +124
... and hits for 9 points of damage!
Jarring blow to your back.
P>stare
You stare at nothing in particular.
P>inv
You are wearing an ora-winged eonake plated helmet, a shimmering glaesine orb, an ora threaded eonake mesh greatcloak, a ruby-inset gold key pendant, some ora-banded white eonake arm-guards, a tooled green leather pouch, an ora-trimmed eonake mesh kilt, some light leather, some ora-banded white eonake leg-guards and some ora-plated eonake war boots.
P>A hobgoblin swings a cudgel at you!
AS: +50 vs DS: -47 with AvD: +20 + d100 roll: +74 = +191
... and hits for 43 points of damage!
Your skull cracks in several places.
Nice breeze up there now.
It seems you have died, my friend. Although you cannot do anything, you are keenly aware of what is going on around you...
You realize that you have no outstanding favors which Lorminstra owes you, and without having accomplished a deed for Her, your soul is in danger of vanishing from the land forever!
...departing in 14 mins...
The hobgoblin howls in triumph!
DEAD>depart confirm
Slowly the world begins to dissolve into a grainy montage of color...
[Purgatory]
You find yourself wandering amidst endless streaming light, and vast nothingness. This place feels torn between two prophecies, each vying for your loyalty.
Also in the room: All the spirits of those who could not choose.
Obvious exits: light and darkness.
>
Time seems to have no meaning as you wander aimlessly amidst the uncomfortable tugging for your attention. Hopelessness washes over dreams you once held like the creeping tide of doom.
In time your soul finds a home, be it in the light or the darkness, but not again in the mortal world. As the last memories of your existence fade, an image of the Goddess Lorminstra, who guards the Gates of Oblivion, tempts your hindsight.
[Purgatory]
It appears that your mortal life has ended once and for all, and that Lorminstra shall be embracing you shortly. This Purgatory is here to provide you with information about what to expect as you move on to the next stage of your existence. Before you is The Afterlife. You will need to enter it in order to create a new character for yourself. You can LOOK AT THE AFTERLIFE to get information about what to expect now that your character has died permanently. When you are ready, simply RETIRE.
Obvious exits: none


Meges

[Meges]

Oh yeah. If you were a member of the CoL when the event actually occurred, everyone in the game would see a message:

*Meges just went demonic!


Or something like that at least. Hence the name demonic. Spirit deaths, if you had less than 3 deeds were an automatic demonic, because it meant an automatic loss of 2 deeds plus an auto-decay when it happened, which landed you in Purgatory.


Meges

[Artha]

* Meges' soul has been lost to the demonic!

[TheEschaton]

God, I remember the first time I saw that happen to a friend of mine, maybe back in 98. Was awful, especially since he was titled at the time.

-TheE-

[Renian]

I only lost one deed, and it was not a spirit death, for the record.