0 - 30 Character Levelling

[100% Wool]

That's right its me! The one who started Gemstone Texas Hold 'Em. I've started another get rich quick scheme the incorporates Gemstone into my life!

Currently I've comprised a team of three asian underpaid individuals to hunt 24/7 or at least ATTEMPT to. This is just a fun test to see if its possible to get to level 30 or more within a months time. We are currently testing the market for prices and interest.

This service includes the starting creation of a level 0 character to level 30.
You the buyer are entitled to a number of things such as:

choice of
-race
-profession ( currently only CLERICS, PALADINS, and WIZARDS )
-stats
-skills
-any bounty points gained within this time
- character transferred to one of YOUR accounts or the option of us starting a basic account and transferring the the account/info to you

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an extra fee will be added if you want your character mastered in CoL
a heavier fee will be added if you want your character mastered in Voln
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We are aiming to have your character completed within 1 month but this is NOT guaranteed. We warn you ahead of time that many things can interrupt our goal. We are REALISTICALLY looking at 1 month 2/3 weeks.

- an initial deposit is required
- the rest of the money is to be given at time of completion
- paypal only
- no credit cards ( due to chargebacks )
- paypal 2 paypal
- bank account to paypal
- money orders
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Characters will be outfitted in equipment on OUR end. The buyer will receive the character completely naked.

We all know the time invested into a gemstone character compares NO WHERE NEAR to the amount of money that character is sold for after.
With this service you get to save all your time and we absorb it on our end.


I know we're going to get a lot of heat in this thread for this...etc..etc
But I'm also sure there are A LOT of you out there that are willing to buy characters but always find out they come with the wrong stats/skills/with no fixskills/bad reputations/warnings/horrible names/ etc etc and the list goes on
With our service you get to create the character yourself and all we do is gain the experience that you need.

Ontop of not wanting to invest days/months/years trying to make a new character due to time restraints, other worldly things, not want wanting to start from level 0 - etc etc

Our service entitles that all the character will be doing is hunting non stop with the occasional healing/spellups from our OWN characters.


Any TOS violations giving to the character at anytime the buyer has the option of doing TWO things.

- Asking for a refund ( which would be the initial deposit )
- A slight discount on the agreed price if the buyer decides to keep the character and follow through with the levelling



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If anyone is REALLY interested this is my contact information. Please feel free to send bids/questions at any time



AIM: jaeahr
EMAIL: jaeahr@gmail.com

[The Ponzzz]

Well, with the introduction of the AdG, if you play 24/7, it's more than possible to hit 30 in LESS than a month.

If you MA and have hunt times to a minimum, also having the other account doing most guild tasks for you, you can easily gain 30k every Lumnis(XXX) and roughly 1.8k an hour exp after. That 320k a week rounding down and giving you error, hell, say 300k a week giving you even more error. That's 1.2mil exp in a 4 week month. It's exactly 1022500 to go from 0-30, and that's not including doing the thrak or running accross town from 0-1.

[Fallen]

I would provide info on where you plan to hunt the character, if you have an Empath/Cleric to heal/rez them, if you plan to limit contact with other players, ect. I would also outline your scripting policies, with a discount for any warnings against the character for TOS violations.

Eh, let them give you hell. Game isn't fun for pures until level 30 anyway. heh.

[100% Wool]

I appreciate the help! Thanks Ponzzz and Fallen. Will do! Glad to know the replies haven't been flames yet.

Kudos to the both of you.

[Fallen]

Don't worry, they are coming, most just haven't seen your thread yet.

[Sean]

How are you planning on working the character gear?

[100% Wool]

Our own equipment of course. Although the buyer receives the character completely naked.

[GS4-Brimzstone]

LMAO....

If I see someone on the amunet speaking like this

plz gimme food ok?

I swear to god your dead!

[100% Wool]

I totally didn't understand that post? rofl?

[GS4-Brimzstone]

I totally didn't understand that post? rofl?

plz gimme food ok?

It comes from WoW...

power levelers/Gold Farmers can't seem to speak english properly... When they see someone that is 60 and has mana they ask pls can I have food and give you like a gold or something its sad and funny at the same time...

food= mana/health regen

[100% Wool]

Oh! Man I left WoW a long time ago. I wanted to get back into it especially since the XP came out which have been receiving rave reviews...but its more repetitive than Gemstone is.

Plus hacking the crap out of it within the first week got me bored of it too. But that was obviously my fault.

[allen]

Let's just hope you don't take everyones deposits and jump ship

[StrayRogue]

I'd personally place my trust in 'Rumples.

[100% Wool]

Come on. Would I really do that? Thanks for the vouch Stay! Honestly I'm 200% guaranteed I won't tarnish my character's name for a lousy 50-100 dollar deposit. It isn't that serious.

Also besides Stay, I can get a lot of people to vouch for my integrity.
Such as my friend who sold you that iorake claidhmore allen, which I've known for IRL for since I was 3 years old
Plus one of YOUR friends who I just sold a lvl 39 wizard to which did nothing but praise me for great customer service.

That's just within your circle too.

On a side note I've been receiving a lot of offers and I'm not even planning to do this at mass amounts yet. Just one or two here to catch the general interest of others. It's just a test run. On top of that when I do FINALLY start doing them at mass loads I'm pretty sure the people that I have done work for ; I can easily use as references.

[allen]

LOL Naw man, I just had to stir up some drama.

[Artha]

I wanted to get back into it especially since the XP came out which have been receiving rave reviews...but its more repetitive than Gemstone is.
The expansion's great. Virtually no grinding, because quest exp comes faster.

[100% Wool]

Artha! Oh how I miss thee and thy mohawk of ugliness. Ever coming back to Gemstone?

[Drew2]

The expansion's great. Virtually no grinding, because quest exp comes faster.

I'm now working my way from 60 to 70 again on my warlock. The second time around, it's not as entertaining. =(

I doubt I'll ever touch the 2 60's on Argent Dawn again. Fuck that.

[TheEschaton]

Err, I guess this whole idea depends on how much you can do it for. 30 level characters cost relatively little nowadays, and I don't know many people who would pay extra for a certain race/prof combo when they can probably find the prof they want with a favorable race no problem.

Your market would be a very niche market - people wanting extreme mutant characters. Like half-krolvin wizards.

-TheE-

[allen]

I'd pay for a Giant Bard but he said no bards yet so, I'm gonna have to keep working on my 11, sooo boring.

[Slark]

Not sure why you'd restrict it to just those three classes...moreover, I'm not sure why you'd restrict it to SPECIFICALLY those three classes. Maybe there's something I don't get.

If your aim is to level them within a month (i.e, free migration), any class can 1x in weapons, shields, PF, etc, to just be a slash em up hunter for a month, then convert to whatever the buyer wants. I'd assume you'll have a character to spell them up anyways, so DS would be even less of an issue.

30 in a month is definitely do-able, I got my bard from 1-20 in just over a month, and I played a lot, but nowhere near 24/7. I ran through the math in a different thread, but it's definitely feasible, especially if you have multiple people working on it. I say, best of luck to you, sir!

[Artha]

Artha! Oh how I miss thee and thy mohawk of ugliness. Ever coming back to Gemstone?
Haha, that was awhile ago. I'm growing my hair out now and it's pretty awesome. Or at least as awesome as Generic Default Hair can be.

Probably not ever coming back to GS, the time sink required to accomplish anything worthwhile is just too great.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<30 in a month is definitely do-able, I got my bard from 1-20 in just over a month, and I played a lot, but nowhere near 24/7.>>

The amount of experience to get to level 30 is approximately 250% of the experience to get to level 20.

If you can average over 34,000+ experience per day, then it's totally plausible. But it's definitely bounds above getting to 20.

[AestheticDeath]

I would provide info on where you plan to hunt the character

Just my opinion... but I would NOT tell anyone this. Especially if you plan on scripting them.

And I am wondering what kinda of total price you are asking.

After a $50-100 deposit.. you couldnt be asking much extra. I think $150 would be about the absolute best you could hope for. At least on a continual basis. Someone might be willing to pay out the nose for an ideal character. But I dunno who.

Like Allen said I would be interested in a bard. Or perhaps another profession.

You have to remember also, that the person is most likely going to be paying $15 for the transfer fee. So that just adds to the costs - or in my case, would subtract from what I would be willing to pay the person leveling them.
So like $135 at best, for a lvl 30+ thats mastered in a society. Unless of course you have a ton of bounty points or something real useful on them. Also - 4x gear is real real cheap. I would add 4x gear and basic containers.

[GS4-Brimzstone]

I think its a great service though... I do have a suggestion though which might help you get customers... Do it in about 29 days or so the 0-30 that way when they get the character back they have the extra 2 days to do skill migrations/fixstats and whatnot before their 1 month freebie period is over....

Also let me know when you offer bards.. I'd totally pay for a bard cause they are a pain in the ass to level... Both of my bards never made it past 15..

[100% Wool]

I wasn't planning on telling anyone where they are going to be hunting - hehe. That would just be bad on my part. Even if my team is at the keyboard 100% of the time I know there will be assholes out there trying to trip up the script.

At the moment I been getting tons of offers in the 200-250 range. Let's just say my first customer is paying more than that.
( I HONESTLY wouldn't do this for no where near $150 dollars a month )

Which is compared to the price of a lvl 30 wizard with extras.

At the moment I think 250-300+ is quite fair compared to the amount of time a lvl 30 char would take on top of the comparison of how a char sells compared to the amount of time YOU yourself as a person invests into it.

Let's say you make minimum wage and work 40 hours ( in NYC I think it's at like 6.50 ::shrug:: ) Which is $260 dollars a week
( BEFORE TAXES )

You start a character from scratch.
8 hours a day in gemstone which nets you roughly 12k EXP a day. 35k on XXX
Which is like what 85k exp a week? Doing this for 40 hours - nothing more/nothing less
I believe Ponzzz said that it takes 1.02M or so EXP to get from 0-30.

This would take around 12 weeks doing 40 hours a week into gemstone.

If you spent the time to take a char to 0-30 you could of been making 3000+ bucks getting paid MINIMUM wage in NYC.

So honestly 300+ is definitely a reasonable price.

The majority of us ( or at least myself) started playing GS when we had the time to play and spend hours on end daily to exp. Not all of us have that luxury now due to having a family/work/school/etc.

Our service provides the time out of OUR lives so that you can do what you NEED to do and in a month be happy with a character you could of created and done in a 3 month period without the hassle.


At the moment it's only stuck to those professions because I already have premade scripts for those professions, although they are not 100% automated - they can function just fine ( if watched ).

If the service starts getting popular and worth the investment to do other professions I will definitely open up the profession choice.

I can't make any solid guarantees with the 28-30 day thing yet. That's why I said realistically 1 month and 2 to 3 weeks. Because well it is our first time doing this and we have no idea what can go on in our lives to stop us from running it 24/7. But yes, when the balls start rolling we will definitely try.

On a side note. I HIGHLY APPRECIATE all the positive comments/support coming from the PC Forums. I honestly thought we were going to get flamed.

Kudos to all of you.

~ The Rolton You can TRUST!

[Drisco]

No offense to yah but if this gets going it could toatly ruin the market of the buying and selling characters think about it after everyone has there Ideal character who is going to be intrested in buy one that isnt how they like it unless you are selling it for extremely cheap.. Now im not saying this isnt a bad idea Ive actually thought it would be awesome if somone did this but doing it could flush the character prices down the drain.

The only way somone would want to buy a character after this is

Extremly Cheap.
Is what you already wanted.
Want the character now.
You just plane and simple hate hunting.

not to mention this could blow all the new comers away thinking that Well these people are spending 200$ to get a character up to 30 and Im gonna just be the slow moving person who wants to do it by himself, I know id be frustrated.

Plus side tho would be

Gemstone IV might make more hunting grounds for older characters
More people who left because of how long it takes to gain levels will come back
People are satisfied and there RPing feels more complete
might be more I missed


Neg Side.

Market for characters will go down.
Hunting areas will be swampped
PvP would be harder for younger people
People with little money might get fed up
Loot might go down due to so many people in a area
Might be more I missed


These are just my opinions and im not objecting against it one bit but Kudos for taking a real oppertunity and turning it into a buisness that some people will be glad to have and some wont. But I guess you take the good with the bad.

I hope it all goes well! Congrats

[Artha]

It might flush the market for characters < 30 down the drain, but there wasnt much of one for them anyway. Any character with a decent amount of training beyond 30 should still sell relatively well.

[Back]

Bottom line. How much are you making an hour after expenses.

I suspect you would do much better at Mickey D’s.

[100% Wool]

It's not about what we're making in an hour after expenses. Because if you think about it we regularly play 6-8 hours a day. Maybe not constantly but on average. So basically I comprised a team that plays around the clock due to schedules so in all honesty we're working on our leisure time like we were normally playing Gemstone. And all we are doing is babysitting our monitors.

My team all have jobs already and we all make a hefty amount from our regularly jobs. But we also spend time playing gemstone on a daily...so why not make a profit out of it? If Tsin can do it why can't anyone else . We're just going about it a different way.

[Back]

As a supplement, and if you do it anyway, its all profit.

I wouldn’t expect to make a living off of it no matter who said how much they made in a year.

[AestheticDeath]

I can't agree with the reasons you list for pricing. You can't really compare the time someone else would have to spend leveling the character to the amount of money something is worth. If you could, current characters would have a much higher price tag. Think about capped characters that take 2 years+ to get where they are. Can you realistically compare that time to paying $40,000+ on a character in gemstone?

As far as $300 being a realistic price for a customized lvl 30 character, I still have to disagree. $300 can buy you another character of twice that level in most cases. If you take that 6-7 weeks like you supposed you would need, and got the characters to level 40, and mastered a society, I could see charging $300. Possibly more.

The only reason there would be any price difference between a character leveling service versus outright buying one someone already has is the ability to customize the character, and HOPEFULLY not have any negative crap associated with the character.

This can be worth alot to some I suppose. Apparantly more than I would have guessed if you really are getting the offers you say you are.

Anyhow, thats just my opinion. I don't see that a custom lvl 30 would be worth much over $150.

Having said that, I wish you luck. If nothing else, it will just bring in some more characters for guys like me to deal with.

[jpatter123]

250 to 300 bucks for level 30 naked chars.. holy crap.. I got about 20 of them I'll sell.
I imagine realistically you could do 2 to 4 chars at a time I'd imagine more then that would be a cluster f#@#. Which definetly leaves me wondering why you'd even bother. Seems like a lot of headache for little return unless your hiring labor out of the U.S. Be funny seeing a whole warehouse of guys in thailand just monitoring scripts.
Too bad there isn't someone offering guild services. I'd definetly pay for someone to master the rogue guild for me.
Anyhow best of luck if people are willing to pay and yer willing to grind it out why the hell not.

[GS4-Brimzstone]

250.00-300.00

I can kind of understand why...

Your paying for the name in which you choose as well as customized profession/race

[The Ponzzz]

At that price, I would expect a mastered CoL character along with gear that's not just 4x crap.

Didn't Insomic(or how ever he spelled it) that ran gemstonescripts.com do level 10 in a week for 20 bucks?

Great concept to try to help people out making level 30 pures, but, I think that price is way to steep.

[100% Wool]

I'm not directly comparing it but like I said for 250 - 300 dollars compared to the money you could be making in 3 months is minor. Everyone knows investing time from to 0 to 30 is really boring.

And all of you are right if you DID buy a lvl 30 char from someone else it would be a lot cheaper. Maybe in the $150-200 dollar range for a wizard. So for an extra 100 dollars you get the char that YOU wanted not that someone else trained and set stats for ontop of NO extra baggage that the character came with.

So next time someone buys a lvl 30 dhenar dark elf named Bunniekyootsiefayce with a 15m dollar debt in the Landing for murders with stats optimized for lvl 35.....don't say I didn't warn you. Hehe.

People buy lvl 30ish wizards and clerics all the time and realize they can only use them for spellups or raises cause their stats are so screwed up or they have to wait soandso timeframe til the next fixskill or spend like what 40m on a fixstat potion? Or 9M on a fixskill. But with this service we are offering we can hand you your character and you can play it as though you started it from scratch knowing its the ..race..stats...name... that you wanted.

So honestly I think it balances out. You don't need to invest any extra cash cause its what you exactly wanted.

On another note these prices are not engraved in stone like I said we are just testing out the market.

$10 dollars a level aint bad at all.

[100% Wool]

Also no matter how much time you spend on your character you are never going to get the time you invested into it for what you sell it for.....

So spending 300 bucks is a lot easier than spending 3 months....40 hours a week religiously than spending $300 dollars when you could be making a lot more in that time just by finding a minimum wage job.


And quite honestly if you can find me a lvl 60 wizard for $300 bucks. Let me know cause I'll buy one if you say people can get double the lvl for this price.

[Lomoriond]

...So for an extra 100 dollars you get the char that YOU wanted not that someone else trained and set stats for ontop of NO extra baggage that the character came with.

So next time someone buys a lvl 30 dhenar dark elf named Bunniekyootsiefayce with a 15m dollar debt in the Landing for murders with stats optimized for lvl 35.....don't say I didn't warn you. Hehe.



Instead you get a character who was scripted from 0 to 30 and comes pre built with the reputation of "never speaking to anyone or stopping to help anyone"

You can promise until you are blue in the face that these characters are being legitimately leveled and not playing like inconsiderate pricks, but we'd have no way of really knowing who dislikes our character until after we've paid and sat down to play the character a little bit.

Even inadvertently (say if you were running five scripting hunters at the same time and just can't devote 100% attention to all five) you can come off as a complete tool waltzing around a hunting area on a script and not stopping to help someone who is hurt/dead... or even better, refusing to help them simply because it would slow down the leveling process.


Is $300 for level 30 worth it? Not to me... I'd rather buy level 40-50 for the same price and just try to CHANGE whatever negative connotations come with the character. But... there have always been people with more money than sense out there...

Now if you offered a service that played my side characters while I was off at work or something, or maybe just knocked out their lumnis each week... I might think about it... Provided you had reputation enough to be trusted not to mess with my account...

Good in theory, but unless you can literally pay your workforce pennies (outsource it to impoverished countries like in some of the more popular mmorpgs) you're never going to see a feasible cost-benefit ratio and will only get business from those people with a lot of money to burn (not a big market, I'd think)

I also don't see why you would charge EXTRA for COL mastery, as having those abilities would speed up the leveling process anyways.

[100% Wool]

You have to understand that we aren't here to RUSH this process. That's why there is a disclaimer about the char not being guaranteed in 30 days. Because of such things as you stated along with any other obstacles.

Everyone can be considered a tool it just doesn't happen to do with such actions.

Look at all the multi players in Gemstone now a days. There are people out there who have one of every profession with like 10 accounts logged on at once.

Look at the ratio of people who keep to themselves too who are self sufficient. They don't have to script hunt either.

Gemstone isn't as group interactive as it use to be.

Lets say someone buys this service from me...goes into another town and happens to be the best roleplayer in the world. How is that than any other person who manually plays and keeps to themselves in the Landing, goes to EN and makes a name for themselves.

In either situation - no one knows who they are. This isn't platinum I'm 100% sure you don't know who everyone is in the game. Its going to happen regardless.

Quite honestly what would you rather deal with a random char you bought and have no clue about their history OR a character that was just scripted from 0 to 30 with a high % that no one knows who they are and that's the only thing you have to worry about.

As far as the extra charges go for society its really just for Voln since its more time consuming to master.

On another note - no one ever said we were trying to make this a multi million dollar business and I can't stress that enough. We aren't trying to make thousands of dollars a month. With numerous people saying "you aren't going to make that much of a profit"

Well profit is profit. And we are spending our REGULAR gemstone time to do this. We aren't going out of our way to hunt these characters. So regardless we will be playing gemstone no matter what.

Lets say we get 5 offers. 300 a piece. 1500 dollars split between 3 people. 500 a month for something we were going to do anyway.....play gemstone.

This isn't a multimillion dollar service.
Hell if I made $15 profit a month for any reason that pays for my account monthly so I just played gemstone for free. Like I said profit is profit.

Are you telling me you wouldn't accept 500 dollars in a month for something you are already going to be doing?

Lets say we only get 2 people this month. 600 dollars. 200 each. That's 200 more dollars I would have at the end of the month....for what.....doing something I already was going to do anyway.

That's a years worth of gemstone for free for myself and my partners......and for what? Something we were gonna do anyway.

[AestheticDeath]

And quite honestly if you can find me a lvl 60 wizard for $300 bucks. Let me know cause I'll buy one if you say people can get double the lvl for this price.

Its not just wizards. And its not just levels. If you want to compare time to money spent, you need to look at exp to get a real idea of the time, not the level.

Which means:

lvl 30 - 1.02m exp = Your price of $300
lvl 40 - 1.73m = Price I used to regularly sell lvl 40 wizards for was 300
lvl 50 - 2.56m = Lvl 51? wizard just sold for 17m or 240ish
lvl 64 - 3.83m = lvl 64 sorceress for $320

Lvl 51 rogue just went for $150, lvl 40 rogue went for $95, 55 cleric for $200, and a lvl 65 wizard for $300

68 cleric asking $275, 54 rogue asking less than 17m


Like I said before. The higher lvls for cheaper prices are out there. Its just whether or not you want to spend the extra money on more levels, or a personalized character with no supposed handicaps.

I am not trying to say you are ripping people off or anything. They can pay what they want. But I really don't see the $300 price tag lasting long. So when people are not willing to pay that much, will you keep doing it for less? Or stop doing it altogether?

[Slark]

A bit repetitive at the end there =P

I'd never pay that much for a level 30 character, but I'm sure some people would. Good luck.

[Daniel]

This is stupid.

[TheEschaton]

Now if you offered a service that played my side characters while I was off at work or something, or maybe just knocked out their lumnis each week... I might think about it... Provided you had reputation enough to be trusted not to mess with my account...

Now THAT's an idea. I have so many extra characters languishing at certain levels which I wish I could raise up. The account security issue would be big though. I don't trust anyone with my account info.

-TheE-

[Artha]

I'd vouch for Rumples' trustworthiness.

[puffy]

I recently bought a level 50 wizard for $300, and that was not a good deal to me. I was only willing to pay that much for the character because I knew it came with a good reputation (no script hunting, friendly personality, well liked). Also came with a good name, stats built for growth, mastered society and a fixskill.

Hell, my husband recently bought a level 78 sorcerer for under $300. Same niceness listed about the wizard, save for the friendly part and the fixskill.

The amount you are looking to charge is absurd. I honestly cannot believe people are paying you that much for a level 30 character, when they could get a level 50+ for that amount.

If you are buying a character to begin with, obviously customization isnt THAT important. You have no say about their personality for the first 30 levels. Woo-hoo script hunted personalized zombie!

[Artha]

If you are buying a character to begin with, obviously customization isnt THAT important.
Which is where services like this come in to fill the niche. This isn't buying a character, this is buying 30 levels for your character.


You have no say about their personality for the first 30 levels.
In all likelihood, there won't be much of one. You'll have a virtually clean slate to work with if these guys do their job right.

[100% Wool]

Yeah it did become repetitive I was typing from my phone so I can't view the actual thread so stuff does start becoming repetitive.

But anyway, like I said these prices aren't set and it isn't like I have a gun pointed at these peoples heads forcing them to pay $300 dollars.

All I been doing is testing the market, if the market popular at the thought of $300 dollars obviously I'll lower it. If there isn't any market at all than obviously I won't do it. We were just testing the market. Nothing is set in stone. Just testing the waters.

So anyway...I have two customers now just in case anyone wanted to know.

[LeftOverGoods]

I would think that a better service that you could offer in the same idea would be simply to offer to train up Existing secondary characters for people. Simply transfer their stripped character to your account, charge a per level fee dependant on current train, where they want you to take it, etc.

Takes out the account security issues right there.

[100% Wool]

We do that too actually. Or will be doing that its just that the customer will be paying all transferring fees.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Takes out the account security issues right there.>>

In exchange for $30 and a minimum of 2 business days.

[100% Wool]

Good point Bob. I guess if the customer has the money to throw around we won't mind it much.

I'm already in the process of taking someones low level char and taking it to 20.

[Anebriated]

The $30 transfer fees would be an option for the person if they dont trust barumples, but if they didnt trust him why would they transfer their character to him in the first place. I can understand if there are other chars on the account that they dont want to give him access to but it seems like a big circle. The people who dont trust someone running a service like this can do it themselves, the people who do will pay whats asked to have it done.

[AestheticDeath]

The $30 transfer fees would be an option for the person if they dont trust barumples, but if they didnt trust him why would they transfer their character to him in the first place. I can understand if there are other chars on the account that they dont want to give him access to but it seems like a big circle. The people who dont trust someone running a service like this can do it themselves, the people who do will pay whats asked to have it done.

For one, you dont want them leveling something on your main account - if for no other reason than you wouldnt be able to play on that account until they were finished. So the first transfer occurs if you have to. Though you shouldnt have to transfer the first time, unless you already have your 'perfect' name and want to keep it. Otherwise, open a free account, make up a name, and let them go at it. Then you only have one transfer fee.

But if you did have that perfect name already, and didnt want to go through a 30 minute process of making another decent name, you do the transfer for the first time - again, so you can use your account. And so he doesn't have access to your real characters/gear. There is no trust involved at this point really, because you arent giving him anything but a name. Unless you are rerolling a higher lvl character. Which would be pointless in most cases.


Anyhow as far as the service goes Barumples. I would suggest offering the leveling service as lvl 25 guaranteed, which should be much easier to get in 28-29 days than lvl 30 would be. Then you and the customer could choose to go beyond 25 and the free trial if needed.

Would maybe need to do some sort of chart listing the fee for each level. Since the lower levels are so much easier to get. Basically try basing it off the total experience earned, rather than the level since you have the increasing exp costs.

[TheEschaton]

Like, for example, if you'd be willing to take some level 30ish character I have to level 50ish. I'd be interested in finding fees for that.

-TheE-

[Latrinsorm]

So basically I comprised a team that plays around the clock due to schedules so in all honesty we're working on our leisure time like we were normally playing Gemstone.I've only grinded a character for someone else once, and that was non-monetary. It got extremely tiring. The only way I was able to keep doing it was playing on one of my characters while the grindee was decompressing. I can only imagine how much worse that would be once money was involved.

Counting XXX, you get 66600 pulses in a 44 day period. This means you have to absorb 15.35 experience every pulse (of every minute of that 44 days). It's possible, but it leaves your team little room for slip-ups.

Because it was brought up, at the above rate, to get from level 30 to level 50 would require 2 months and 1 week, or around $450.

[Stretch]

For the casual gamer, an extra $100 or so isn't a lot to pay for convenience.

I probably spent upward of 6,000 hours over four or five years getting my rogue capped and finished with the Rogue Guild. It was relatively cheap entertainment, and while the sheer volume of hours is kind of depressing in retrospect, I probably would have wasted most of the time anyway.

Selling your character is NEVER an NPV positive scenario if you take into account your hourly wage. Heck, if you put my current pay per hour into the 6,000 hour estimate, it comes out to around $175K. I sold Edaarin (raw character value, if you discount for the GOA and Bounty Points) for $800, or $0.13 an hour. Throw in the roughly $4,500 of silver/gear I sold through the years, and it's STILL < $1 per hour.

At Ed's hunting peak (looting OTF with a longbow and self-mana haste), I could make around 400k an hour if Tsin wasn't around. Still less than minimum wage.

As an aside Jae, if you want to make money while you play, merchanting is the way to go. It took me less than a year in GS III to go from 0 to around 120 million, and I think Edaarin was level 48 when I started.

[GS4-D]

At Ed's hunting peak (looting OTF with a longbow and self-mana haste), I could make around 400k an hour if Tsin wasn't around.

I find 400k a little hard to believe. I run a very good setup myself, and the most I was able to come close to per hour is 300k in OTF.

My setup being an OTF hunter that kills in 1 or 2 seconds, picking up all gems and boxes, returning to town to dump the loot and repeating. Having a picker on a script to pick boxes, an elven bard to purify gems and sell them with a 24% upsell, and a wizard to dupe any wands, the most I've been able to get was around 300k per hour.

[Fallen]

Getting the weapons?

[GS4-D]

Getting the weapons?

No, they weigh too much for what they sell for.

[Fallen]

That could easily account for the difference.

[GS4-D]

That would mean that he picked up around 66 crystal weapons per hour, since they sell for about 1500 each. I doubt that's doable, as not every Ithzir carries one. I can see 20 weapons per hour, but not 66.

[Bobmuhthol]

You're forgetting that last 2/3 of a weapon, as well.

[AestheticDeath]

They can sell for over 1500 a piece. I am getting 1666 right now, and someone else said they were getting more than that. Two people I think. I usually get 2-8 a hunt. It can vary alot. Hunts are 3-4 minutes?

[100% Wool]

Thanks for all the helpful hints and such. Lvl 25 was an option for our team but like I said this is just a test run. Depending how things go we will work out all kinks and stuff in the end.

Yeah Edaarin, merchanting was always an option.....but back in the day. I was making millions merchanting and then selling the silvers. It's a lot harder now a days don't you think?

[Stretch]

Very true, the Player Shops kind of killed the amunet. Psi Net probably played its role in that as well.

With regard to 400k an hour in OTF, that figure was based on three fifteen minute hunting sessions. I was consistently able to garner 100K+ fame per trip with the Haste sword, and usually went through 100-120 critters per hit. Probably comes out to ~350 Ithzir/griffins.

I had an empath stationed right outside, so encumberance was not an issue. When Tsin was not around, I could bank on bagging a bunch of quality gems per trip as well; it wasn't unusually to pull seven or eight diamond quality gems alone per trip.

Here's a post from last June, in Ganalon's farming thread:

6 minute hunt in OTF just now (includes loot from 4 boxes):

15k in coins
platinum sceptre (11.3k)
medium pearl
scarab
cerulean glimaerstone
green sapphire
dragon's-tear emerald
azure blazestar
uncut maernstrike diamond

About 50k right there, and the gems aren't purified.

Ask Suppa Hobbit Mage how many gems I was making him purify every couple of days. Soulpieced was making even more than I was, once he finally started picking up boxes. I'm pretty sure that if I could have ever laid my hands on a gem chisel, it would have paid for itself in a few months of OTF hunting.