Oscar Meyer is the only Oscar I recognize

[Parkbandit]

The Oscars have become such a political joke, it's not even close to being funny. Gee.. didn't know Gore would win... wow, what a shocker. And Melissa Ethridge for that bullshit song for the mockumentary? Come on.

[Parkbandit]

(I also think the Academy Awards.. which I was really talking about... suck.. )

[Shari]

I can't believe I'm saying this...(everyone please forgive me) but I agree with what you're saying. Its all fine and dandy if they want to do documentaries on shit, but don't go up on stage and start spraying all your propaganda some more. Most don't care...they just want to see the amazing gowns with the women who look like they're just a hiccup away from falling out.

[Kranar]

It received a 92% on www.rottentomatoes.com (http://www.rottentomatoes.com) and is overall the top rated documentary amongst critics, and it is also the top rated documentary on www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) for the year.

It's not a surprise it won because it is critically recognized as the best documentary of last year.

Were you hoping for Jesus Camp to win instead?

[Satira]

I heard Jesus Camp made those people look ridiculous. So that wouldn't make sense for republicans.

[Sean of the Thread]

I can't believe Happy Feet beat out CARS!???

[Parkbandit]

It received a 92% on www.rottentomatoes.com (http://www.rottentomatoes.com) and is overall the top rated documentary amongst critics, and it is also the top rated documentary on www.imdb.com (http://www.imdb.com) for the year.

It's not a surprise it won because it is critically recognized as the best documentary of last year.

Were you hoping for Jesus Camp to win instead?

As I posted in the originating post.. no one was surprised it won. I really wasn't surprised the song won either.. since the 4 songs nominated from Dream Girls didn't include anything about global warming or that George W Bush sucks.

[Parkbandit]

And do they really, REALLY believe that the Academy Awards were close to being a Green event? WHAT? How many fucking limos drove up? How many jets brought people there? How many fucking lightbulbs were turned on for the event?

Come on... it's ok to preach about having a 0 carbon foot.. as long as they are not held up to that standard.

[Gan]

I can't believe Happy Feet beat out CARS!???

That to me says volumes. My 4 year old son cant stand happy feet. Cars on the other hand we watch weekly and saw it 3x in the theaters.

[Gan]

And do they really, REALLY believe that the Academy Awards were close to being a Green event? WHAT? How many fucking limos drove up? How many jets brought people there? How many fucking lightbulbs were turned on for the event?

Come on... it's ok to preach about having a 0 carbon foot.. as long as they are not held up to that standard.

I wonder how much of a carbon footprint the 10K+ square foot palaces in north Hollywood make...

And the jets. ROFL. Did Gore fly to the awards? He could have gone Madden and taken the train instead. Horse and buggy would have been more of a statement IMO.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[Goretawn]

Hypocrisy at its finest.


More true words have never been spoken. How many slave laborers were beaten to dig out the stones for all that jewelry? The whole, we are Hollywood and hold everyone (except ourselves) to a higher standard, and we are right because we are rich and famous makes me want to puke.

Shut up and sneeze already so we can watch you pull a Janet Jackson.

Oh, and who was the brunette that was escorting off the stage. She was smoking hot.

[Sean of the Thread]

The Oscars have become such a political joke, it's not even close to being funny. Gee.. didn't know Gore would win... wow, what a shocker. And Melissa Ethridge for that bullshit song for the mockumentary? Come on.

The best part was Al Gore being drowned out by the band when starting his political banter.

[StrayRogue]

Scorsese deserved the win even if The Departed wasn't the film that should have earned him it.

Helen Mirren ftw also.

[Back]

The outrage over an ex VP who wants to raise awareness over an environmental problem to me seems rather stupid in comparison to a sitting President and staff who deceived us into an unnecessary war. But thats just me.

[Parkbandit]

The outrage over an ex VP who wants to raise awareness over an environmental problem to me seems rather stupid in comparison to a sitting President and staff who deceived us into an unnecessary war. But thats just me.

It's not just you.. you and the other stupid people that refuse to actually look at the facts instead of the moveon.org talking points.

Remember.. Bush lied, people died.

PS - I'm still waiting for someone to explain what happened to Acid Rain causing global catastrophy as they predicted in the late 70s. I bought an acid raid shelter because of it.

PPS - Keep the Global Warming mantra up though.. I'm laughing all the way to the bank. While I personally think it's nothing more than bullshit... my business is based upon it.

[Sean of the Thread]

Scorsese deserved the win even if The Departed wasn't the film that should have earned him it.

Helen Mirren ftw also.

I'm just curious hich did you think should have won best picture?

Scorsese definitely deserved teh director award for it.

[Skeeter]

He deserved an Oscaar just not for the Departed. Hell it wasn't even his best mob film.

[CrystalTears]

Seems like people never get Oscars for the project they deserved it for, yet more like when they feel they've "earned" it.

[Gan]

The best part was Al Gore being drowned out by the band when starting his political banter.

That was scripted.

[Some Rogue]

I'm just curious hich did you think should have won best picture?

Scorsese definitely deserved teh director award for it.


Goodfellas?

[Skeeter]

Seems like people never get Oscars for the project they deserved it for, yet more like when they feel they've "earned" it.

Kind of like baseball MVP or All-Star voting.

[Gan]

He deserved an Oscaar just not for the Departed. Hell it wasn't even his best mob film.

Agreed. I'm suprised this is his first Oscar. I saw Departed and was not overly impressed with it as a story. The cast was all-star, which I think leant more to the award than anything else.

I really could not be the best judge of this category since I've only seen 2 in the category (Little Miss Sunshine - which I did not like) and The Departed (which was so-so). I really wanted to see Babel, but missed it in the theaters so its now on my DvD list to watch.

Here's a link of the categories and the balots.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/academy.awards/print.ballot.html

Best Motion Picture of the Year.

Babel
The Departed http://i.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2003/oscars/images/winner.gif
Letters from Iwo Jima
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen

[Stanley Burrell]

(I also think the Academy Awards.. which I was really talking about... suck.. )

Grammy = Tony = Oscar = Academy = Golden Globe here too.

No real distinction. I'm racist against award ceremonies.

[Latrinsorm]

Ellen Degeneres was freakin' hilarious.

You have to be a real political nutjob for the entirely light-hearted and good-natured politics of the evening to bother you.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm racist:ban:

[Gan]

My world didnt revolve around watching the whole ceremony. So I was only able to catch bits and pieces of it. I did get lucky enough to see the time slot right before and after Gore's brief speech as introduced by Leonardo.

Someone needs to tell Gore to lose some weight, his carbon footprint is getting bigger by the waistline...

And yes, Ellen was pretty funny. I liked the camera skit with her, Eastwood, and Spielberg (who was the hottie sitting between Eastwood and Spielberg?)

I was also glad to hear that Forest Whitaker received an Oscar for his performance in The Last King of Scotland.

[Stanley Burrell]

I really liked Little Miss Sunshine.

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Babel
The Departed http://i.cnn.net/cnn/SPECIALS/2003/oscars/images/winner.gif
Letters from Iwo Jima
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen

I was the opposite of Gan. I only watched the part with DiCaprio and Gore and nothing else. lol

I saw Little Miss Sunshine, but I didn’t think it was THAT good. I never got out to see Departed... wanted to. Babel I would watch. Guess I’ll check out The Queen also.

Haven’t been a fan of Eastwood’s movies since... the last western he did.

[StrayRogue]

Scorsese should have won the Oscar for Raging Bull. Easily his best work. Failing that: Casino or Goodfella's were equally amazing contenders.

Sorry but if you think the Oscar's are anything but political, then you're in a world of your own.

Despite the prestige they give they're pretty meaningless and not indicative of actual acting/directing/production ability. Halle Berry has one for chrissake. They're seldom awarded to those that truly deserve them.

[Methais]

Oscar Meyer is the only Oscar I recognize

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Oscar_the_grouch_at_smithsonian.jpg/250px-Oscar_the_grouch_at_smithsonian.jpg

[StrayRogue]

By the way, I really, really liked the Departed, despite it being a remake. Excellent ensemble piece with some very suprising and good acting. I hate Mark Wahlberg usually, but his character was excellent in the film.

DeCaprio, someone I used to detest in his Titanic/heartthrob years, also was suprisingly good. He, and his role in the film, was very reminiscent of Gangs Of, but explored to much better effect.

Damon, again someone whose done some really shitty films, was equally good.

In fact everyone was excellent with the exception of Nicholson, whom I thought was very spikey, very random. He didn't have the psychosis of Nicky/Pesci from Casino. He didn't have the cold calculation of De Niro from Goodfella's. He was good, but not definitive. Not his best role ever.

It was the best of an Okayish mix, but not Scorsese's best.

[CrystalTears]

What has Matt Damon done that was so shitty? Every actor has their share of not so great films, but I don't think that takes away from their acting. Johnny Depp is one of those who was in a slew of fucked up movies, but his role was always done well.

[Goretawn]

[quote=Ganalon;559841]And yes, Ellen was pretty funny. I liked the camera skit with her, Eastwood, and Spielberg (who was the hottie sitting between Eastwood and Spielberg?)
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The hottie is Clint's wife. His first wife too.

[StrayRogue]

What has Matt Damon done that was so shitty?

Are you serious?

Ocean's Twelve?
Titan A.E?
Legend of Baggar Vance?
Stuck on You???

No he isn't Ben Affleck, but he has done some poo.

[Latrinsorm]

I was also glad to hear that Forest Whitaker received an Oscar for his performance in The Last King of Scotland.I kind of wanted Peter O'Toole to win even though he was creeptacular in the nominated role, but it became pretty apparent that it meant a hell of a lot to Whitaker, so I didn't feel so bad.

[CrystalTears]

You make it sound like his bad ones outnumber his good ones, and I disagree with that.

[Sean]

"What has Matt Damon done that was so shitty?"

See: The Talented Mr. Ripley

[CrystalTears]

Like I said, I don't tend to generalize someone's acting by their film choices.

[Keller]

Pertinent to the current discussion, I saw all the movies nominated for best picture and clearly think the Queen was superior. It was the most entertaining of the bunch (save maybe The Departed) and was entirely dialogue driven. It drew you into the "crisis" and made you believe you were there watching these events unfold. Truly great cinematography and Hellen Mirram was outstanding.

If I had to rank the pictures up for best picture it would be:
1) The Queen
2) The Departed
3) Letters from iwo Jima
4) Little Miss Sunshine
5) Miami Vice
6) Lives of Others
7) Children of Men
8) American Pie 7
9) Babel

Also, PB, you need to get off this "Global Warming is a myth made up by liberals and therefore everything remotely liberal is bad" kick. It is sooooo last month and it starting to make you look a little BL'ish. Like Kranar said, the critical praise An Inconvenient Truth garnered was sufficient for it to win. How often is a documentary such an active talking point in America? If documentaries are meant to become popular in order to pass along information and create discourse on topic, then An Inconvenient Truth was hugely successful. Whether you agree with the premises and conclusion is WHOLELY inconsequential in deciding whether it was the Documentary of the Year, which it clearly was.

I'll grant you that the success of An Inconvenient Truth was largely based on the support it received from the liberal hollywood elite. No question about it. But that's just a fact. The Oscars are meant to memorialize the great films of the year. The films which touched people and literally shaped the national discourse. If you're still not sold that An Inconvenient Truth was the one documentary that deserved this "memorialization" then ask yourself:

"Would I be making the same global warming critiques day in and day out on the Player's Corner forum if Al Gore had NOT made An Inconvenient Truth?"

If you can honestly that in the affirmative, then maybe it didn't deserve it. But, as I suspect, you can't. None of us can. Our national discourse has been centered on Global Warming not because of temperature increases, but because of An Inconvenient Truth. Whether the cause is entirely environmental or hastened by humans, we'll all read and discuss the newest scholarly (and not-so-scholarly) reports because it's now a point of national interest.

[Gan]

And yes, Ellen was pretty funny. I liked the camera skit with her, Eastwood, and Spielberg (who was the hottie sitting between Eastwood and Spielberg?)


The hottie is Clint's wife. His first wife too.

I figured as much since I didnt think he'd go stag and he had an aisle seat. Nice catch.

[Satira]

I didn't see The Queen, even though I want to eventually. She's a great actress.

I liked The Departed a lot, and I wasn't disappointed at all that it won. Second pick would have been Little Miss Sunshine. I saw that twice in the theater.

I laughed really hard that Babel came after American Pie 7 on your list, Keller. I thought Babel looked like complete shit, and I heard it was along the lines of an international Crash.

PS

"What has Matt Damon done that was so shitty?"

See: The Brothers Grimm

[Skeeter]

The only problem I have with Gore winning for Documentary is his movie isn't a Documentary.

If he would've won for best fiction I'd be fine with that.

[Latrinsorm]

I really liked the Brothers Grimm. :(

[CrystalTears]

The only problem I have with Gore winning for Documentary is his movie isn't a Documentary.

If he would've won for best fiction I'd be fine with that.
It's like Michael Moore winning for his films. They're not documentaries.

[TheEschaton]

First off: I thought Scorcese winning best director was a given, but to throw in Best Editing, Best Adapted Screenplay, and Best Picture? I dunno about that.

I was not surprised at all by An Inconvienant Truth winning best documentary...because it was.

However, Etheridge winning best song surprised me, because it seemed to me that nominating Dream Girls three times suggested one of those songs was gonna win it. Especially when they performed them right before. I personally think the movie and the songs sucked, but to nominate it thrice in the same category and not win? That blows.

As for the comments made when Inconvienant Truth won Best Doc, and Best Song - they were particularly not partisan, at one point Mr. Gore said something like "This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, red or blue issue, it is a green issue. It is not political, it is a moral issue." Everyone else seemed to just praise the man himself, and his inspirational value, and not seem to make any political statements.

Oh, and where were you when that guy won for his role in doing something with Flags of our Father (or was it Letters?) and basically said, "Support the war"?

Surprise of the night, for me: Alan Arkin winning supporting actor.

-TheE-

[Skeeter]

It's like Michael Moore winning for his films. They're not documentaries.

I've never watched his movies, but general consensus is the man is a liar and a douchebag, so I guess you're correct. A precedent has been set.

[Parkbandit]

Are you serious?

Ocean's Twelve?
Titan A.E?
Legend of Baggar Vance?
Stuck on You???

No he isn't Ben Affleck, but he has done some poo.\\

I would never, ever count an animated film against any actor... since they only supply the voice.

And Stuck on You was funny.

[Parkbandit]

"This is not a Republican or Democrat issue, red or blue issue, it is a green issue. " -TheE-

There's one thing I will agree with him. This global warming is ALL about the Green.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Gan]

There's one thing I will agree with him. This global warming is ALL about the Green.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


ding ding ding

Attention, attention, we have a winner.

[Sean of the Thread]

That was scripted.

Oh I know.. it's still the best part.

[Sean of the Thread]

Gore's global warming shit is alllll about CASH THE CHECK. I commend the guy for being smarter than most of us for doing it... HELL HE INVENTED THE INTERNET! At least all his "green" money" is safe in his little lock box.

Matt Damon SUCKS. HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM APPLES?

[Stanley Burrell]

Semantics aside, best documentary is a waaaay more respect-worthy title than President of the United States currently. Props to Gore for at least wearing the shinier badge.

Yeah, Matt Damon teh sux0rs quite a bit since just about anything after GWH's debut.

[Sean of the Thread]

Semantics aside, best documentary is a waaaay more respect-worthy title than President of the United States currently.

If you're serious you're a bigger idiot than I thought from your incoherent posts.

If you're joking you're not very funny. /yawn

[Keller]

Gore's global warming shit is alllll about CASH THE CHECK. I commend the guy for being smarter than most of us for doing it... HELL HE INVENTED THE INTERNET! At least all his "green" money" is safe in his little lock box.

Matt Damon SUCKS. HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM APPLES?

It's really amazing the number of dip-shits who sincerely think Gore claimed he invented the internet.

He did not. I'm sure you know the true story, Xyelin, but everyone else should read http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.

[Back]

It's really amazing the number of dip-shits who sincerely think Gore claimed he invented the internet.

He did not. I'm sure you know the true story, Xyelin, but everyone else should read http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.

Repeat it enough and the average person forgets. Thanks for clearing that up, Kelsy Welsy.

[Stanley Burrell]

If you're serious you're a bigger idiot than I thought from your incoherent posts.

If you're joking you're not very funny. /yawn

I guess he (Gore) did kind of win presidency too.

My bad.

Seriously though, how far off would I be to say that if Gore traded the... Percentage... Of celebratory whatever-you-want-to-call-it merit from said award for the prez's fanfare ratings, he would look like jackshit by comparison.

Make that make sense when you read it.

[Stanley Burrell]

That isn't to say that Gore's degree in Meteorology could have a foot to stand on by comparing his documentary/not a documentary/mockumentary/semantics/etc. to Moore's 911 (or Bowling for Columbine.)

I think the idea of a politician creating a "documentary" is questionable. At best.

[Sean of the Thread]

I guess he (Gore) did kind of win presidency too.

My bad.

Seriously though, how far off would I be to say that if Gore traded the... Percentage... Of celebratory whatever-you-want-to-call-it merit from said award for the prez's fanfare ratings, he would look like jackshit by comparison.

Make that make sense when you read it.

Ok it made sense.

You're still an idiot for your statement.

Gore didn't "kind of win" the presidency.

You're still an idiot c'mon 2x.

[Stanley Burrell]

I said kind of, damn.

[Shari]

All and all...

Methais wins this thread with his sig.

[Stanley Burrell]

All and all...

Methais wins this thread with his sig.

For real.

Happy b-day Doyle, btw :birthday:

[Shari]

My birthday is in August?

[Latrinsorm]

Matt Damon SUCKS. HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM APPLES?Jealousy is such a terrible thing. :(
Repeat it enough and the average person forgets.You mean like "Bush lied"?

Jesae = Doyle? :O

[Back]

Repeat it enough and the average person forgets.


You mean like "Bush lied"?

The difference between smart and stupid. You know the score.

[Stanley Burrell]

Jesae = Doyle? :O

Nah.

That'd be hot though.

[Hulkein]

Al Gore’s Personal Energy Use Is His Own “Inconvenient Truth”
Gore’s home uses more than 20 times the national average

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

Pretty funny.

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http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/article.php?article_id=367

Pretty funny.

Gore Responds To Drudge’s Latest Hysterics (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26/gore-responds-to-drudge/)

[Shari]

Jealousy is such a terrible thing. :(You mean like "Bush lied"?

Jesae = Doyle? :O

Sorta. I must have been confused. Scott's last name is Doyle. Soooo...

Yeah.

[Kriztian]

The best part was Al Gore being drowned out by the band when starting his political banter.

Eh, that was intended. It was Gore laughing at Gore. [obvious irony]

[Gan]

I'd like to see detail in the purchasing of offsets thats in Gore's rebuttal. What and where are the offset markets and who can participate as well as what kind of offsets are they? I'm betting its similar to emission trading that is such an interesting debate among politicans. I wonder what his vote was on that issue when it was in Congress.

And the purchase still does not lessen the impact that his resource usage has, its just him being rich enough to try to buy an excuse to do it. But wait, Gore's a democrat so he's a 'people's man', nevermind the fact that he's buying his ability to be a polluter. I know, I'll sell my truck and buy a hybrid if he'll pay me an offset usage amount of $2,000.00 a month. He can offset his gluttony by paying me for my sacrifice. Yea right...

Again, Hypocrisy at its finest.

[Back]

I'd like to see detail in the purchasing of offsets thats in Gore's rebuttal. What and where are the offset markets and who can participate as well as what kind of offsets are they? I'm betting its similar to emission trading that is such an interesting debate among politicans. I wonder what his vote was on that issue when it was in Congress.

And the purchase still does not lessen the impact that his resource usage has, its just him being rich enough to try to buy an excuse to do it. But wait, Gore's a democrat so he's a 'people's man', nevermind the fact that he's buying his ability to be a polluter. I know, I'll sell my truck and buy a hybrid if he'll pay me an offset usage amount of $2,000.00 a month. He can offset his gluttony by paying me for my sacrifice. Yea right...

Again, Hypocrisy at its finest.

It makes no difference. They could explain everything to you down to the last detail and you still wouldn’t believe it and call him a hypocrite. Why bother?

[Hulkein]

lol @ 'think progress'

[Gan]

It makes no difference. They could explain everything to you down to the last detail and you still wouldn’t believe it and call him a hypocrite. Why bother?

If you cant aswer the questions, just say so.

:lol:

Amazing how skeptical you are of everyone who does NOT align with your 'cause'.

[Nieninque]

Pots and kettles around here...

[Gan]

and trolls... oh my.

[TheEschaton]

The best part about that link you posted, Hulkein, is that it claims to be nonpartisan yet promotes limited government and property rights in its mission statement, and the President was a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute of all places.

-TheE-

[Gan]

Gore lied, and the ozone died...

[Keller]

I'd like to see detail in the purchasing of offsets thats in Gore's rebuttal. What and where are the offset markets and who can participate as well as what kind of offsets are they? I'm betting its similar to emission trading that is such an interesting debate among politicans. I wonder what his vote was on that issue when it was in Congress.

And the purchase still does not lessen the impact that his resource usage has, its just him being rich enough to try to buy an excuse to do it. But wait, Gore's a democrat so he's a 'people's man', nevermind the fact that he's buying his ability to be a polluter. I know, I'll sell my truck and buy a hybrid if he'll pay me an offset usage amount of $2,000.00 a month. He can offset his gluttony by paying me for my sacrifice. Yea right...

Again, Hypocrisy at its finest.

Last night I was thinking about writing something like, "For some reason which I can't articulate I find personal off-sets appalling while I strangely approve of national off-sets."

I think you clearly articulated why I subconsicously found them disturbing. It really is just purchasing the right to be a glutton.

[Parkbandit]

It's really amazing the number of dip-shits who sincerely think Gore claimed he invented the internet.

He did not. I'm sure you know the true story, Xyelin, but everyone else should read http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp.

He invented the internet.. just like Bush lied to get us into war in Iraq.

[Keller]

It makes no difference. They could explain everything to you down to the last detail and you still wouldn’t believe it and call him a hypocrite. Why bother?

Either you have no clue what a personal offset is, you didn't read Ganalon's post, you didn't understand Ganalon's post, or all of the above.

[Sean of the Thread]

All of the above.

[Keller]

He invented the internet.. just like Bush lied to get us into war in Iraq.

If I may channel dakken in my judgment of that analogy: Piss poor, unacceptable.

[Gan]

I'm now hearing that some of the 'offsets' that Gore is contributing too/purchasing is to companies that practice/promote/research in Green technology. Ok, that sounded almost legitimate until I asked myself the next question.

When Tipper and Gore write a check to these companies, are they receiving any residual benefit like stocks (purchases) from the companies being contributed to, are there any exchange for or receipt of items (such as solar panels, LCD lighting, compact flourescent lighting, etc), or are they using these contributions/purchases as a tax write-offs?

Lets not obfuscate where the true meaning really lies. Oh wait, did I say lie? I meant to say misunderstand... I mean misrepresent... I mean misconstrue... no, wait; its just majestically vague and you should draw your own conclusions.

[Gan]

I finally understand the answer.

We need to live like the elves. Only the elves have a neutral carbon footprint.

[Daniel]

Are you seriously trying to pull the financial corruption card on the democratic party?

[Gan]

All politicians are financially corrupt. Just the same as all politicians lie.

I'm merely pointing out the irony (and hypocrisy) of it in this specific situation.

In the meantime, I'm going to start up my own offset corperation so I can solicit would-be Green guilt politicians to buy in. My first offering will be to sell off my truck for a modest monthly offset fee. Then I'll start further reducing my carbon footprint with energy start modifications available for an additional offset monthly fee.

I'm starting to feel like the parrish priests selling indulgences to guilt ridden parishoners.

THATS IT! We need to rename offsets to indulgences!!!


As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, the soul from purgatory springs

As soon as the coin in the coffer rings, the guilt from gluttony springs!

I wonder if we can get Latrin to nail up 95 thesises onto the door to the capitol building calling for congressional reformations.

[Artha]

That wasn't Luther, that was that priest who was really good at selling them whose name I can't recall off the top of my head.

[Gan]

Fixed.

Thanks Artha!

[Artha]

Don't thank me, thank my 10th grade History teacher's weird tangents!

[Parkbandit]

Are you seriously trying to pull the financial corruption card on the democratic party?


Are you seriously trying to say that the democratic party isn't corrupt?

Come on man.. they are politicians. By their very nature, they are mostly corrupt. They are just above lawyers in the scumbag barrel.

[Parkbandit]

If I may channel dakken in my judgment of that analogy: Piss poor, unacceptable.


Why is that? Simply because you don't like to admit facts?

PS - WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU COMING BACK TO DUNEMAUL?

[Keller]

Come on man.. they are politicians. By their very nature, they are mostly corrupt. They are just above lawyers in the scumbag barrel.

Not to mention the A/C converters in central Florida who leech off of the global climate change crisis for their own personal profit.

[Keller]

Why is that? Simply because you don't like to admit facts?

Facts? Facts are what liberal pussies use to undermine Premier Bush's regime. I dispise these so called "facts"!


PS - WHEN THE FUCK ARE YOU COMING BACK TO DUNEMAUL?

Ehhhhh, Monkey was going to try and talk Asymtote into letting me play/have his druid. So if that goes down, then maybe soon. Otherwise I'm not sure. I don't want to grind from 0-70 alone, so unless someone rerolls noob w/ me, I'm not sure I have the will. I'm having too much fun with my xbox 360.

[Parkbandit]

Not to mention the A/C converters in central Florida who leech off of the global climate change crisis for their own personal profit.

I'm not leeching off anything. The Global Warming is real and I have started a company that will reduce electrical consumption for those unfortunate souls who live in multi-family dwellings. Today alone, I have saved over 75 families in section 8 housing 15%-20% on their HVAC electrical consumption.

I am trying to save as many families as possible, while this Global Warming crisis is still considered real and not some bullshit attempt to keep someone's name in the headlines. Like Gore, I intend to help (read - profit) greatly by educating people on this terrible, terrible moral problem confronting us today.

[Parkbandit]

Ehhhhh, Monkey was going to try and talk Asymtote into letting me play/have his druid. So if that goes down, then maybe soon. Otherwise I'm not sure. I don't want to grind from 0-70 alone, so unless someone rerolls noob w/ me, I'm not sure I have the will. I'm having too much fun with my xbox 360.


I'm trying to level up Falgrin, my level 42 hunter. I know you'll join Scynd's guild.. but it will still be nice seeing you around again.

[Back]

Bumping an old topic, I know.

Saw Departed and bought Children of Men.

Departed kept me until the end. The story, characters, and good acting from an ensemble cast did hook me. It got a little arty at one point which jarred me. But I never really ever felt involved. Maybe it was the hyper-local atmosphere because I’m not from Boston. Scorsese's best, to me, is his first, Taxi Driver. And that may be because I’ve lived in NYC.

Children of Men has been mentioned in this thread and I have to say... how did this NOT get nominated? Granted, I have not seen all the films nominated, but how this one slipped through is beyond me.

[TheEschaton]

Children of Men was nominated, Peter whathisface was nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

-theE-

[Back]

Children of Men was nominated, Peter whathisface was nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

-theE-

They both should have won. IMNSHO.

[Latrinsorm]

Peter O'Toole wasn't in Children of Men, which was nominated for cinematography, film editing, and adapted screenplay (losing to Pan's Labyrinth for the first and the Departed for the other two).

[Hulkein]

Bumping an old topic, I know.

Saw Departed and bought Children of Men.

Departed kept me until the end. The story, characters, and good acting from an ensemble cast did hook me. It got a little arty at one point which jarred me. But I never really ever felt involved. Maybe it was the hyper-local atmosphere because I’m not from Boston. Scorsese's best, to me, is his first, Taxi Driver. And that may be because I’ve lived in NYC.

Children of Men has been mentioned in this thread and I have to say... how did this NOT get nominated? Granted, I have not seen all the films nominated, but how this one slipped through is beyond me.

I agree completely about The Departed. Very good movie, good cast, but I never felt immersed in it. And I don't think it is because of the city, because when I first saw Goodfellas I was definitely on the edge of my seat and I'm not from NY.

The Departed was a very good movie, but not great. Scorsese did better with Goodfellas and Raging Bull.

[StrayRogue]

LOL @ Taxi Driver being his "first".

I think Scorsese should have won the Oscar for Raging Bull. It won everything else. Or, at least gotten a lifetime achievement booby prize in 20 years or so. I'm also of the opinion that Goodfella's was just a warm up for the superior Casino.

The Departed was good. Great even. However it's...off-putting when Jack Nicholson gets out-acted by Mark Wahlberg. A good remake, overall. I imagine it won because there was nothing much else that could really claim it. It was indeed a poor year for best film.

[Artha]

If only 300 had come out a couple months earlier.

[Sean of the Thread]

I agreed. I wasn't overly impressed with The Departed. Goodfellas however.. muy excelente.

[StrayRogue]

300 is by far the campest film of the year.