View Full Version : Would you put your pet in the pet spa?
Apathy
02-01-2007, 03:00 PM
PETA says this is the equivilent to throwing a toddler in a dishwasher. I don't know about that, but damn, who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg
Of course, I am laughing the whole time.
Sean of the Thread
02-01-2007, 03:12 PM
hahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha
It's just a cat at any rate. Should have dried it in the oven.
Shari
02-01-2007, 03:16 PM
One of the family-run pet stores here where I live has one of those in their shop. I pointed it out to my husband and said, "Oh look honey, a dishwasher for your dog."
I agree, its totally fucked up. From the video I could only sit and wonder how the FUCK the cat is supposed to breath in there with all that water?
I give both my dogs a SHOWER, when I'm in the shower. We have sliding glass doors and neither one of them has attempted busting out. I used to help my best friend bathe her cats. It wasn't SO bad, but there was a lot of displaced water and howling.
On the outside of the machine it has this little advertisement about how SAFE, and STRESS-FREE it is for the animal. If I get a chance I'll stop at the petstore and take a picture of it to post here.
And even with all my ranting and raving, I laughed my fucking ass off in the beginning of that video and then felt horribly bad as you could see the kitty just kinda sliding along the glass in an attempt to get out.
:(
Keller
02-01-2007, 03:18 PM
hahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha
It's just a cat at any rate. Should have dried it in the oven.
Feline Fricasse?
Jolena
02-01-2007, 03:19 PM
We bathe our cat as well, and while she doesn't like it and I have to do the whole 'grip the back of the neck like yo mamma' to keep her still (sometimes I have to hold her front paws too but not often), she doesn't scream or anything. In fact, as long as I have that grip on the scruff of her neck, she's rather quiet and just kinda..takes it.
CrystalTears
02-01-2007, 03:44 PM
I agree, its totally fucked up. From the video I could only sit and wonder how the FUCK the cat is supposed to breath in there with all that water?
By the looks of it, it's spraying them with water, not drowning them in a pool of it.
I give both my dogs a SHOWER, when I'm in the shower.
You're a strange one, you really are.
Sean of the Thread
02-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Seriously after attempting baths in sinks and tubs with the cats and coming away with 92 some odd stitches combined..... I've learned to just put them in a harness and take a hose to them.
Works great.
Goretawn
02-01-2007, 04:11 PM
I would like to thank you for that. I love finding new and creative ways to torment cats. I think I shall buy one of those spa's and have all the neighbors by (outisde of course, no damn cats in my house) for hours of my viewing pleasure.
If you really watch the video, it has jets that shoot up. They are not submerged at any time. It is a great way to laugh my ass off. Again, thank you for posting it.
Skeeter
02-01-2007, 04:12 PM
I give both my dogs a SHOWER, when I'm in the shower.
so you can wash off the excess PB of course
Tea & Strumpets
02-01-2007, 04:19 PM
Why is it cruel? Maybe some people don't want to wrestle a crazed cat to give it a bath. I'll agree the cat isn't happy about it, but it's for the cat's own good.
And I was cracking up the whole time I watched it, too.
Ilvane
02-01-2007, 04:22 PM
That is awful.
I'm sorry, but that looks cruel. I wouldn't want to subject my poor cats to that.
Angela
CrystalTears
02-01-2007, 04:24 PM
But it's okay for the cats to scratch you to shreds in order to bath them.
It's safer that way.. for everyone involved.
Ilvane
02-01-2007, 04:29 PM
I'm sorry, but cats don't like water. There are plenty of alternatives, including the dry wash..it's almost like a lotion type thing to clean the cats. They keep themselves pretty clean anyway, with good brushing and a product like that(a dry shampoo basically) they don't need to be put through that.
Angela
CrystalTears
02-01-2007, 04:31 PM
Yeah, I know they don't like water. It's an alternative to personally bathing them. I didn't say it was a great idea, but it's a safer idea for some.
Maybe your cat should get a job and pay for the dry wash itself.
Shari
02-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Hmm...dry wash, or purchase a bag of popcorn and a case of beer and have a good 5 minutes of pure hilarity.
Tea & Strumpets
02-01-2007, 04:40 PM
they don't need to be put through that.
It builds character! I'm sure your cats don't like the vet shoving thermometers up their ass, either.
I did feel a little bad for the cat (while trying not to laugh too loudly), but if someone wants their cat washed (and let's say they don't agree with you that a dry shampoo and the cats licking themselves is fine) and it's one of those "attack cats", this is an alternative.
SpunGirl
02-01-2007, 05:26 PM
WTF is with the bathing of the cats? Maybe they're outdoor cats, I dunno. Mine are all indoor cats, because IMO that's the best way to keep them safe. They're brushed regularly and they clean themselves. The only time we've given a cat a bath was when we rescued Dumpling and she was all grungy. Lucy, on the other hand, gets a bath in the big tub twice a month. She loves it.
-K
Ignot
02-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I don't think it is cruel. The first few times will always be a bit stressful for the animals but after awhile they should get used to it. I wish i had one of those for my great dane. For now, i have to tie him up by the carwash and spray him with a hose.
Tsa`ah
02-01-2007, 06:08 PM
As a person who doesn't like cats ... hell I loath cats ... I thought it was the definition of hilarity.
Too bad you can't rent one by the hour or day ... I'd get endless satisfaction and amusement through my contribution to the hygiene of two demon spawn my wife and kids call "kittens". I call them adolescent feline assholes.
Augie
02-01-2007, 11:05 PM
Okay I have 2 cats and here's my comments on that video now that I'm home and can watch it:
#1, that cat in the video looks just like my older cat.
#2, I have had to bathe both of my cats and it's not fun at all (my kitties are indoor cats and NOT declawed).
#3, I am convinced I have to find a place that has one just to do it to my cats once.
#4, I couldn't stop laughin throughout that whole thing hah.
Sean of the Thread
02-01-2007, 11:25 PM
IMHO save the money and toss them in the dishwasher.
Apathy
02-01-2007, 11:45 PM
Dishwasher isn't big enough for a baby AND a cat :(
Ignot
02-02-2007, 12:55 AM
Washing machine is.
Stanley Burrell
02-03-2007, 10:00 AM
I agree with PETA's stance.
Stanley Burrell
02-03-2007, 10:03 AM
Um. In other news, Baldwin Guinea Pigs would never need such frequent fur cleansing:
http://z.about.com/d/exoticpets/1/0/X/a/baldwinsksj002.jpg
Ignot
02-03-2007, 10:25 AM
Gross
Sean of the Thread
02-03-2007, 10:43 AM
Um. In other news, Baldwin Guinea Pigs would never need such frequent fur cleansing:
http://z.about.com/d/exoticpets/1/0/X/a/baldwinsksj002.jpg
That looks more like a member of the Gere species.
Ignot
02-03-2007, 10:51 AM
"Sorry Champ, I think I ate your chocolate squirrel"
Jazuela
02-03-2007, 04:15 PM
How is it cruel? Hm, let's see:
Jets powerful enough to actually clean dirt off a cat, shooting straight up from the floor. The cat, whose head is no more than 10 inches off that floor, normally stands with its head face forward - nostrils faced uh - downish. Sorta right in the path of those jets. Y'know, making it really easy for the jets to slam up his nostrils. So okay he has to struggle a bit to find a position where the water isn't shooting up into his brain. It's not like that would be stressful or anything, I mean everyone who thought this was funny probably aims one of those intermittant directed lawn sprinklers toward their own noses and turns the spigot on full blast just for kicks, right?
That's just the actual physical effect. That doesn't even go near the notion that the cat is alone in there, with no possibility of escape, and no one to even -attempt- to keep it calm. He's free to go completely psychotic without any interference til the shower is over. Assuming of course he doesn't bang his head so hard against the glass door in his attempt to escape that he doesn't end up unconscious with a concussion, or permanent brain damage.
Sorry - I'd rather endure a few dozen scratches than put any animal through that kind of torture. Fortunately I don't have to, because I don't feel any need to submerge my cat in water or impose jets of water on/under her, ever, for any reason. Fleas are easily dealt with using a wet washcloth and flea soap. Dirt is easily removed with - a wet washcloth and mild shampoo. Cuts and abrasions are easily dealt with using a cotton ball and tea tree oil. Skunk spray - that's a toughie, but again - washcloth in diluted tomato juice, squeeze on the cat's fur, rinse with water, problem solved.
Let people design one of those spas for themselves, forcing them to place their bodies low to the ground on all fours, with the jets shooting straight up at their faces from underneath. If the majority of people don't find it a mentally, psychologically, and physically traumatic experience, then sure - let them use the device on their pets. My bet is on the people subjected to it demanding the machines be dismantled, and then banned.
Sean of the Thread
02-03-2007, 05:07 PM
It's a cat. Get over it.
Shari
02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
Aw, you send money to PETA every year, don't you?
I DO find the video hilarious, but I also think the spa is a bad idea. I would never put any of my pets in it.
But watching the video is like watching the guys from Jackass. You think its a fucking riot, but you'd never do it yourself.
Granted the animals have no way of telling humans, "No, I don't want to be put in there." But there are much, much worse things that people do besides put their animal in a pet dishwasher.
Apathy
02-03-2007, 06:46 PM
I ran over a bird with the lawnmower once.
I found it humorous.
Parker
02-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Jazuela's entire post
It's this kind of mentality that defies logic. It. Is. A. Cat. This is an animal that's spent thousands of years evolving into the devious, aloof, evil things they are today.
I suppose you'd be pissed about the people that let their cat run out into the wild, to do whatever evil toying with mice things it does? You should whine about the cruelty of those cat-owners to the mice. The mouse has claws stabbing into it's body, no chance of escape, and nobody to comfort it. Have to be fair, afterall. I think a bit of water spraying is nothing compared to being skewered on sickle-claws.
On a side note, I'd personally love an all-encompassing shower to clean me without effort. That'd be fantastic.
Ignot
02-03-2007, 07:30 PM
I ran over a bird with the lawnmower once.
I found it humorous.
Your a sicko. Speaking of sicko's. My parents told me a story about our neighbor (i was to young to remember). He used to bury stray cats until only their heads showed and then he....well, something like what Apathy did.
Now does getting sprayed with some water seem so cruel now? Those evil cats should be thinking "well, at least im not getting my head chopped off with a lawnmower."
.....selfish cats....
They make a very nice drawstring mesh bag with a super fine metal mesh inside it for bathing cats. It's sold in dog grooming magazines & works perfectly.
If that doesn't work for you, there are handler gloves also, worth the investment to keep your arms and hands scratch free.
A small eyehook on the side of the tub and a lead to hook around the cats neck to prevent them escaping the tub is helpful also.
No reason to put them through that sort of crap.
~K.
Sean of the Thread
02-03-2007, 11:57 PM
So no hose?
Shari
02-04-2007, 12:04 AM
I think...if I had a spastic cat that hated water I'd get one of those animal cages that is all open on the sides. (Not the hard plastic you use for plane flights) and I'd dump warm water over it, and then soapy warm water, and then rinse with warm water if I wanted to be as humane as possible. Let it chill out for several minutes before attempting to let it out and towel it off.
Sean of the Thread
02-04-2007, 12:17 AM
Just toss them in a wet gunny sack... dip it in soapy water.. and swing it around your head until dry.
Man thats a genius plan.
Apathy
02-04-2007, 12:52 AM
Just toss them in a wet gunny sack... dip it in soapy water.. and swing it around your head until dry.
Man thats a genius plan.
heh, reminded me of that scene from The State where the guy threw a bag full of kittens off a cliff on his vacation.
Bobmuhthol
02-04-2007, 01:06 AM
I kind of wish I had read this thread before just now.
On that note, I agree with every sentiment about how nothing in Jazuela's post is valid whatsoever.
Sean of the Thread
02-04-2007, 01:26 AM
heh, reminded me of that scene from The State where the guy threw a bag full of kittens off a cliff on his vacation.
Rofl I remember that.
Also reminded me of ..
I WANNNNNNA DIP MY BAALLLLLLLS IN IT!
CrystalTears
02-04-2007, 09:01 AM
[crazy ass post about cats giving themselves a concussion and other nonsense]
There's an emergency stop button on the machine, so that if the cat does seem to be hurting itself, they'll [omfg] stop it.
It's not something I would [currently] do to my cat because she's old and getting arthritis and she needs to be handled more gently these days. If she was kitten age and was an ordeal to clean, it may have been considered.
Not the best of ideas, but let me tell you, cats do more harm to themselves on a daily basis than a stupid washing machine could. If you don't know what I mean, then you never had one and should STFU about omg humanity.
It's only water. If your kid didn't like water, would you let him refuse baths? Some people's logic escapes me.
TheEschaton
02-04-2007, 09:09 AM
Only if he fucking licked himself constantly, CT, GEEZ, DON'T U NO N-E-THANG???
-TheE-
Ignot
02-04-2007, 10:16 AM
Rofl I remember that.
Also reminded me of ..
I WANNNNNNA DIP MY BAALLLLLLLS IN IT!
LOL your bringing back memories. That show was hilarious.
Apathy
02-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Who invited Louie? Judas, Judas did you invite Louie?
Jazuela
02-04-2007, 05:48 PM
If I had a kid, and the kid didn't like water, I wouldn't put him on all 4s into a shower stall alone, lock the door so no matter how loudly he screams I won't have to hear it, and turn the water on so the jets spray up at full blast into his face. I wouldn't do it to a kid, I wouldn't do it to a cat, I wouldn't even do it to Bobmuhthol - tempting as it might be.
Numbers
02-04-2007, 05:55 PM
A kid isn't likely to gouge deep slashes into your arms and hands when you try to give him a bath.
http://www.funpic.hu/funblog/allatok/allatok_07.jpg
Bobmuhthol
02-04-2007, 06:32 PM
I'm kind of wondering if you even watched the video to say that there is even a possibility of jets of water operating at "full blast into his face."
Tsa`ah
02-04-2007, 06:42 PM
Maybe I'm fortunate because both of my kids love the water ... but I'm reminded of my youngest brother when he refused to bathe at the age of 4.
He went about a week constantly throwing fits until dad took him out back and hosed him down.
As far as animal abuse goes, the cat freaked out because it was getting wet. The water jets weren't blasting it, it wasn't in any danger, it could breath ... and it was probably treates better than the larger percentage of the human population ... get over it.
Sean of the Thread
02-04-2007, 09:53 PM
If I had a kid, and the kid didn't like water, I wouldn't put him on all 4s into a shower stall alone, lock the door so no matter how loudly he screams I won't have to hear it, and turn the water on so the jets spray up at full blast into his face. I wouldn't do it to a kid, I wouldn't do it to a cat, I wouldn't even do it to Bobmuhthol - tempting as it might be.
Child does not equal cat.
It's a cat. Not a Child.
In case you were still wondering. You sound like the type of douchebag that would save their cat from a burning car before someone else's child.
My parents told me a story about our neighbor (i was to young to remember). He used to bury stray cats until only their heads showed and then he....well, something like what Apathy did.
I'm reading this and all I'm thinking is red, blood-stained, cat chunks needing to be removed from said lawnmower after each killing. And then I'm thinking future serial killer alert should have been issued for that dude.
They need to make something like this for medium-large breed dogs. I'd thoroughly enjoy watching my dog do the same damn thing he does everyime I bathe his hyper ass, except in a controlled area where I don't have to do shit except press a button 'till its done. Yes, please.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
02-05-2007, 10:52 AM
Story about the stray cats sickens me. I understand not everyone likes all animals but that's cruel and disgusting.. I'd have been calling the police.
I hate animal cruelty with a passion, especially to cats and dogs. But, is the kitty dishwasher animal cruelty? Puh-leeease.
Luckily my cat likes water and will come in the shower or what not.. and if we ever have to give him a bath (normally we don't need to) he comes quietly. I have had a cat though that would rip out claws on the edge of the sink trying to get away as we tried to bathe him. Having to take a cat to the vet and get him more shots to prevent infection because we needed to give him a flea bath is more cruel to me than putting him into a scary to him but albeit safe seeming machine. It's not like the cat is drowning and it doesn't seem to go on very long. Cats don't like water but a little water and automated washing isn't going to kill them. Give em some chicken and pets and they'll have forgotten about it in two seconds flat.
And ROFL at the child-cat comparison. Yes some people's pets are treated as their children, which is fine whatever floats your boat, but just because your bratty 2 year old is screaming about not wanting to eat their carrots and flailing everywhere all rather ineffectually doesn't mean that as a parent, you are committing child abuse. -_-
The cat definitely looks stressed in the video. I am not sure cat lovers will be eager to subject their cats to this procedure and I am guessing cat lovers are who would bring their cat to a cat spa.
Bad business idea and not exactly a stellar moment in the movement for the humane treatment of animals.
CrystalTears
02-05-2007, 03:51 PM
A cat will be stressed most of the time that you're cleaning it, in whatever fashion. They don't like to be messed with. Know what? Too fucking bad. It's not torture, it's a fucking bath. One thing is not liking the idea, another is saying that it's a torture device.
Sean of the Thread
02-05-2007, 04:11 PM
Rofl @ "stellar moment in the humane treatment of animals."
Give me a fucking break. I wasn't lying when I said I take a hose to my cats..shit.. giving them a BATH in the first place is humane treatment.
Mighty Nikkisaurus
02-05-2007, 04:25 PM
Rofl @ "stellar moment in the humane treatment of animals."
Give me a fucking break. I wasn't lying when I said I take a hose to my cats..shit.. giving them a BATH in the first place is humane treatment.
If you spray your cat with even a water bottle, IT'S ANIMAL ABUSE!!one1
Sean of the Thread
02-05-2007, 05:22 PM
Or not.
zhelas
02-06-2007, 09:40 AM
For some reason my cat likes to hop into the shower after I am done. I guess to drink the fresh water. Soo
Easiest solution to give him a bath was to fill the tub with water. Did you ever see a cat fly? I tell you he was shocked when he found himself in 4 inches of water.
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